Death of Unix? a.ka. adaptation and re-thinking
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The End of Unix?
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The death of unix is a false prediction that's been around forever. With the birth of linux & *BSD I would say that it's experiencing the largest surge in popularity for a good 10 years.
I see unix adapting in a few needed ways (and I think it will be lead by open source software):
1. Adaptation of the security model; file system ACL's are something that all IT personel appreciate. In todays enterprise it has become almost necessary for file server environments and is venturing way beyond that. As I tell people @ work NT has a pretty good security MODEL, but it's not the best implementation. I'm not saying stick NT's model into UNIX, but do like unix and OS software have always done....improve upon current implementations and develop new ones. This covers not just ACL's but many other things.
2. Fragmentation....Always a hot topic! Linux is starting to see fragmentation whether we like it or not and this is where I see companies like RedHat as good things. Take KDE and GNOME for example they are both wonderful desktops and the developers are working towards common standards for drag and drop, etc. This is the kind of thing I like to see, but unfortunately the effort hasn't produced obtainable results...yet. This is where a standards body would help us all out considerably because in the end it means more apps and functionality for everyone in the game.
I work for a furniture e-tailer and our 24/7 call center is closed for one, and one reason only... We are moving it to a new location. I'm @ work now helping move (we'll actually I'm sitting in the server room running backups JIC(tm)) You should have seen the amount of crap we had to go through to get AT&T cooperate, the have screwed up three times before. BTW, www.furniturefind.com
Actually they flicker at approximately 120hz because the voltage waveform peaks (+ & -) at 120hz (60hz for + voltage and 60hz for - voltage). Also power is what really matters and + and - voltage make no difference, power peaks at 120hz.
You are forgetting a big point though, sure a full install of any distrobution is huge (SuSE 2+gig if I remember correctly) and the size of a minimal windows 98 install is a little under 200MB but what does windows come with? Absolutely nothing besides the base utilities most of which are worthless.. Install the number of apps that comes with linux distro on windows and I guarantee things will even out... Heck install office 2000 and watch your hard drive shrink magically.
-Aaron
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KDE 1.1.2 is out
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I highly suggest windowmaker for a good all around WM if you don't want to deal with the extra problems of KDE or GNOME... And even if you do I've run WindowMaker successfully with both Desktop's and it works well.. WindowMaker is light, easy to configure (with wprefs at least) and has a big following.
I'm always concerned with redundancy and I think the linux kernel development could benifit from it the same way our servers can. If something were to happen to Linus (albeit very tragic) would you or someone else be able to take the weight that he bears for the kernel development process? I fear that the community is putting all it's eggs in one basket and perhaps you are the only viable replacement.
I think accepting challenges from Microsoft is playing with fire. Why don't we as a community use some of our corporate muscle (Redhat, VA, Linuxcare, Penguin Computing, Ect.) and offer up a challenge to Microsoft.. A sort of "may the best OS win" deal. I say we find our own "independant and unbiased" benchmarking firm and employ kernel hackers and Samba developers to tweak our machine. But instead of just pulling an NT system out of the box and testing it we invite microsoft personel to tweak their system under independant observation and let the bits fly. If we win it's great press, and if NT wins it's great press for them and then they can chant all they want because it was a fair test under *our* circumstances. We need someone to sponsor all of this for the Linux community, I suggest Redhat. Afterall Redhat is our "flag ship" company within the linux community and if anyone can use good press against Microsoft it is them. Perhaps VA could step forward and help also, they hold a great importance within the community as well. If we win there is nothing but good press to be had for the companies involved.
I emailed this link to my friend and he sent this back to me in an email, I thought it was funny
Here it is:
I checked out the system, big deal. The Playstation 2 will be backwards compatible and have mature themed games.
But, I can see Nintendo's first generation line up for the system.
Year: 2002 (It's nintendo.. vapor ware)
System Price: $600
Actual system at release: a Cartridge based system at $120 a cartrage, because the Nintendo staff couldn't figure out how to open a CD jewel case.
Nintendo will, after business conflictions, make their own 3D hardware that will get an amazing 4,000,000 polygons a second at 120 FPS, but only displays in 256 colors. But extra color will be available after buying a $160 add on chip.
To cut the cost $200 per system (acording to the nintendo financial department) a 1 watt internal fan won't be available, hence, play time will be limited to three daily sessions of 45 minutes each.
Due to Nintendo's commitment to quality, saved games can only be stored on special $400, 20 GB Western Digital/Nintendo hard drives that must be replaced every two weeks.
And because of Nintedo's merger with Divix in 2000, All games must be re-purchased at full price, on-line (over MSN, of course), every 15 minutes.
Packaging: No controllers, No games, No memory hard drives. To cut the cost $525 per system (again, says the Nintendo financial department) the plastic casing must be custom made by the buyer.
Also, Due to Microsoft's and Nintendo's purchase of the American Government from the Chinese in 2001, Emulating, copying, or saying "Nintendo" without expressed written consent from god will result in execution without trial.
Misc: Rumble pack sold separate. All other extras will require 9 AAA bateries.
Games: "Mario 4K", "Mario Kart 4K", "Lame Snowboarders 4K", About 23 different driving and baseball games, "WCW 'We Look and Play Like Hell Wrestling' 2002", and about 14 variations of "Pusssywillow Meets the Stinky Footed Fary" pussy kid games.
And after 4 years of being on the market, there will be a whopping selection of 8 games to choose from!!!!!!
But, inspite of these amazing projections, it will fail because it hase the name IBM on it.
I used to use SuSE regularly and I still use it on a server but I have 6.0 sitting on the hard drive taking up 2.5 gigs and no way of putting it on CD because I can't find how to split it up anywhere. Does anybody know how to do this w/ 6.0? It's really annoying. I've bought two boxed sets from SuSE and I think that is enough for now...
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The death of unix is a false prediction that's been around forever. With the birth of linux & *BSD I would say that it's experiencing the largest surge in popularity for a good 10 years.
I see unix adapting in a few needed ways (and I think it will be lead by open source software):
1. Adaptation of the security model; file system ACL's are something that all IT personel appreciate. In todays enterprise it has become almost necessary for file server environments and is venturing way beyond that. As I tell people @ work NT has a pretty good security MODEL, but it's not the best implementation. I'm not saying stick NT's model into UNIX, but do like unix and OS software have always done....improve upon current implementations and develop new ones. This covers not just ACL's but many other things.
2. Fragmentation....Always a hot topic! Linux is starting to see fragmentation whether we like it or not and this is where I see companies like RedHat as good things. Take KDE and GNOME for example they are both wonderful desktops and the developers are working towards common standards for drag and drop, etc. This is the kind of thing I like to see, but unfortunately the effort hasn't produced obtainable results...yet. This is where a standards body would help us all out considerably because in the end it means more apps and functionality for everyone in the game.
This is just a short version of my $0.02....
-Aaron Dokey
Gainful Employee of Technology
-Aaron
Actually they flicker at approximately 120hz because the voltage waveform peaks (+ & -) at 120hz (60hz for + voltage and 60hz for - voltage). Also power is what really matters and + and - voltage make no difference, power peaks at 120hz.
-Aaron
You are forgetting a big point though, sure a full install of any distrobution is huge (SuSE 2+gig if I remember correctly) and the size of a minimal windows 98 install is a little under 200MB but what does windows come with? Absolutely nothing besides the base utilities most of which are worthless.. Install the number of apps that comes with linux distro on windows and I guarantee things will even out... Heck install office 2000 and watch your hard drive shrink magically.
-Aaron
I highly suggest windowmaker for a good all around WM if you don't want to deal with the extra problems of KDE or GNOME... And even if you do I've run WindowMaker successfully with both Desktop's and it works well.. WindowMaker is light, easy to configure (with wprefs at least) and has a big following.
I'm always concerned with redundancy and I think the linux kernel development could benifit from it the same way our servers can. If something were to happen to Linus (albeit very tragic) would you or someone else be able to take the weight that he bears for the kernel development process? I fear that the community is putting all it's eggs in one basket and perhaps you are the only viable replacement.
-Aaron Dokey
I think accepting challenges from Microsoft is playing with fire. Why don't we as a community use some of our corporate muscle (Redhat, VA, Linuxcare, Penguin Computing, Ect.) and offer up a challenge to Microsoft.. A sort of "may the best OS win" deal. I say we find our own "independant and unbiased" benchmarking firm and employ kernel hackers and Samba developers to tweak our machine. But instead of just pulling an NT system out of the box and testing it we invite microsoft personel to tweak their system under independant observation and let the bits fly. If we win it's great press, and if NT wins it's great press for them and then they can chant all they want because it was a fair test under *our* circumstances. We need someone to sponsor all of this for the Linux community, I suggest Redhat. Afterall Redhat is our "flag ship" company within the linux community and if anyone can use good press against Microsoft it is them. Perhaps VA could step forward and help also, they hold a great importance within the community as well. If we win there is nothing but good press to be had for the companies involved.
--Aaron
I emailed this link to my friend and he sent this back to me in an email, I thought it was funny
Here it is:
I checked out the system, big deal. The Playstation 2 will be backwards compatible and have mature themed games.
But, I can see Nintendo's first generation line up for the system.
Year: 2002 (It's nintendo.. vapor ware)
System Price: $600
Actual system at release: a Cartridge based system at $120 a cartrage, because the Nintendo staff couldn't figure out how to open a CD jewel case.
Nintendo will, after business conflictions, make their own 3D hardware that will get an amazing 4,000,000 polygons a second at 120 FPS, but only displays in 256 colors. But extra color will be available after buying a $160 add on chip.
To cut the cost $200 per system (acording to the nintendo financial department) a 1 watt internal fan won't be available, hence, play time will be limited to three daily sessions of 45 minutes each.
Due to Nintendo's commitment to quality, saved games can only be stored on special $400, 20 GB Western Digital/Nintendo hard drives that must be replaced every two weeks.
And because of Nintedo's merger with Divix in 2000, All games must be re-purchased at full price, on-line (over MSN, of course), every 15 minutes.
Packaging: No controllers, No games, No memory hard drives. To cut the cost $525 per system (again, says the Nintendo financial department) the plastic casing must be custom made by the buyer.
Also, Due to Microsoft's and Nintendo's purchase of the American Government from the Chinese in 2001, Emulating, copying, or saying "Nintendo" without expressed written consent from god will result in execution without trial.
Misc: Rumble pack sold separate. All other extras will require 9 AAA bateries.
Games: "Mario 4K", "Mario Kart 4K", "Lame Snowboarders 4K", About 23 different driving and baseball games, "WCW 'We Look and Play Like Hell Wrestling' 2002", and about 14 variations of "Pusssywillow Meets the Stinky Footed Fary" pussy kid games.
And after 4 years of being on the market, there will be a whopping selection of 8 games to choose from!!!!!!
But, inspite of these amazing projections, it will fail because it hase the name IBM on it.
I thought it was pretty funny...
-Aaron
I used to use SuSE regularly and I still use it on a server but I have 6.0 sitting on the hard drive taking up 2.5 gigs and no way of putting it on CD because I can't find how to split it up anywhere. Does anybody know how to do this w/ 6.0? It's really annoying. I've bought two boxed sets from SuSE and I think that is enough for now...
-Aaron
It figures... It'll be on the FTP site just after I leave school for the summer which means I'll have to buy it... Grrr.
-Aaron