no. They finally tracked it down. They watched the guy come in and take over the box again. He got in and owned the box in 8 seconds.
The hacker found an old samba server in Australia (version 0.5 or some such), took it over. Used that to remotely mount the windows desktop used by the researchers in Japan.
Found the private cert/key on the windows box. Used that to ssh in to the linux server. Ran a zero day gnome exploit and took it over.
After taking over the server, installed 2 kernel modules that hid itself and also trapped certain calls like the ones used by tripwire and basically returned true for all the operations for tripwire and removed itself from the modules list and the process list.
bah. 15 years ago, there was a post on BugTraq about this internet mapping that someone was doing. The systems were running redhat, everything was locked down, tripwired, only thing running was ssh, and it required certs to get in.
The guy felt something was wrong. Compared tripwired hashes to what was on the disk. Everything looked good. lsmod, ps -ef, netstat -an, everything looked kosher.
A couple of days later, he decided to take the system down anyway, and run an offline tripwire. Found shit.
You seem not to understand that almost everyone who tried to partner with Microsoft, and build products that run on Windows, got screwed over once Microsoft decided they wanted that market (which they were never in).
Hell, Microsoft threw a temper tantrum when Sony didn't want to be their BFF, and wasted billions to fuck them over with XBox and the HD-DVD crap.
For businesses, separating "ideology" and "free"/"open" is the norm. Many companies use e.g. LAMP and Red Hat Enterprise Linux because it's the best for them.
Are you talking about things that Apple wrote themselves? Of course they would keep it.
Things that Apple built on, they give it back (WebKit, kernel, etc). In fact, Apple even gave away some of the things they wrote themselves, such as Grand Central Dispatch.
No, there are things you can be critical of Torvalds, but this is not one of them. There is no reason to taint the entire kernel. If Redhat wants to use it, redhat can keep (and had kept their own customized kernels previously) doing it themselves.
*lmao* Have you seen Linux deployments out there? Just about anything that doesn't run Apple or Windows *IS RUNNING LINUX*, including those little set top boxes, your phones, TVs, etc. There are literally billions of linux boxes out there.
You forgot to even mention the inherent bribery, corruption and other politics between the cardinals themselves.
Lets face it, a bunch of malicious corrupt people electing someone to run a malicious, corrupt and destructive organisation isn't an exemplar for any electoral system.
One of the better posts - I wish I had mod points.
There's only been several headlines about how gerrymandering got the GOP their majority in the House, even though there was a majority of popular votes for Democrats.
You might just want to spend a bit of time reading that up.
And it can still be corrupted. By buying the votes before hand. In fact, back home, there was one very famous case of vote buying, and the people went to their religious leader saying they were offered $150 for their votes. He told them to take the money, but once inside the voting booth, to vote their conscience.
The book "Sex Lives of the Popes" documents numerous instances of corruption in the election process. During the 10-11th century, one mother and daughter pair got 7 popes onto the papal chair, by having affairs with, or giving birth to them.
We can't bash Microsoft We can't bash Google We can't bash Apple . . And now I even get modded troll for bashing bastard marketing assholes...? What is the world coming to?!
About the only thing that'll survive a nuclear war is cockroaches. So, if the cookie tracking online ad industry survives this nuclear strike, are they cockroaches...?
At least I think I was logged out. But, remember, if you have multiple tabs open, one of those tabs may still have a session id or cookie that gets sent back (even though it's now invalid for checking email, for example - the cookie that was in the page still gets sent back).
It looked like I was logged out, because I had to log in back to gmail on another tab. It could be a timing issue or other issues, I did not do a tcpdump or anything else to verify/validate.
As for the extension, linky? Sounds interesting. Thanks.
And you cannot understand why people who were subjected to abuse, or have a pseudonym, or any number of other legitimate reasons, might not want to have their real name associated with that because privacy doesn't exist?
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no. They finally tracked it down. They watched the guy come in and take over the box again. He got in and owned the box in 8 seconds.
The hacker found an old samba server in Australia (version 0.5 or some such), took it over. Used that to remotely mount the windows desktop used by the researchers in Japan.
Found the private cert/key on the windows box. Used that to ssh in to the linux server. Ran a zero day gnome exploit and took it over.
After taking over the server, installed 2 kernel modules that hid itself and also trapped certain calls like the ones used by tripwire and basically returned true for all the operations for tripwire and removed itself from the modules list and the process list.
damned cool hack, and that was 15 years ago!
damn, I wish I hadn't commented previously!
bah. 15 years ago, there was a post on BugTraq about this internet mapping that someone was doing. The systems were running redhat, everything was locked down, tripwired, only thing running was ssh, and it required certs to get in.
The guy felt something was wrong. Compared tripwired hashes to what was on the disk. Everything looked good. lsmod, ps -ef, netstat -an, everything looked kosher.
A couple of days later, he decided to take the system down anyway, and run an offline tripwire. Found shit.
Can you figure out how they got in?
Are you merely agreeing with him, or violently agreeing with him? I can't tell.
you used to sell IBM printers, didn't you?
Very astute observation. And these parts are made of silicon, copper and even gold!!!
And you know what, all humans are made up of nerve cells and other cells.
Some combinations work better than others, and some, as you demonstrate, are clearly harder to work with.
Very very rarely have I seen Theo blow up at someone where it is not warranted. Especially the big companies that lie and lie again to him.
A letter to your state Attorney General describing this would be a big help. As would a blog posting so that others can chime in and spread the news.
You seem not to understand that almost everyone who tried to partner with Microsoft, and build products that run on Windows, got screwed over once Microsoft decided they wanted that market (which they were never in).
Hell, Microsoft threw a temper tantrum when Sony didn't want to be their BFF, and wasted billions to fuck them over with XBox and the HD-DVD crap.
For businesses, separating "ideology" and "free"/"open" is the norm. Many companies use e.g. LAMP and Red Hat Enterprise Linux because it's the best for them.
No, they use it because they can pay for it.
Are you talking about things that Apple wrote themselves? Of course they would keep it.
Things that Apple built on, they give it back (WebKit, kernel, etc). In fact, Apple even gave away some of the things they wrote themselves, such as Grand Central Dispatch.
At least Apple contributes back. http://opensource.apple.com/
In some cases, they made so much progress, the original project took what they did and use it instead (webkit being re-absorbed back into KDE).
No, there are things you can be critical of Torvalds, but this is not one of them. There is no reason to taint the entire kernel. If Redhat wants to use it, redhat can keep (and had kept their own customized kernels previously) doing it themselves.
Linux might achieve even a modicum of success
*lmao* Have you seen Linux deployments out there? Just about anything that doesn't run Apple or Windows *IS RUNNING LINUX*, including those little set top boxes, your phones, TVs, etc. There are literally billions of linux boxes out there.
modicum of success... bwahahaha
You forgot to even mention the inherent bribery, corruption and other politics between the cardinals themselves.
Lets face it, a bunch of malicious corrupt people electing someone to run a malicious, corrupt and destructive organisation isn't an exemplar for any electoral system.
One of the better posts - I wish I had mod points.
There's only been several headlines about how gerrymandering got the GOP their majority in the House, even though there was a majority of popular votes for Democrats.
You might just want to spend a bit of time reading that up.
And it can still be corrupted. By buying the votes before hand. In fact, back home, there was one very famous case of vote buying, and the people went to their religious leader saying they were offered $150 for their votes. He told them to take the money, but once inside the voting booth, to vote their conscience.
FTW! :)
The book "Sex Lives of the Popes" documents numerous instances of corruption in the election process. During the 10-11th century, one mother and daughter pair got 7 popes onto the papal chair, by having affairs with, or giving birth to them.
As in, there are a ton of ways to implement texting without requiring transactions like you think.
You are an idiot. Find out how texting works and how it is a free ride on every packet.
We can't bash Microsoft
We can't bash Google
We can't bash Apple
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And now I even get modded troll for bashing bastard marketing assholes...? What is the world coming to?!
About the only thing that'll survive a nuclear war is cockroaches. So, if the cookie tracking online ad industry survives this nuclear strike, are they cockroaches...?
At least I think I was logged out. But, remember, if you have multiple tabs open, one of those tabs may still have a session id or cookie that gets sent back (even though it's now invalid for checking email, for example - the cookie that was in the page still gets sent back).
It looked like I was logged out, because I had to log in back to gmail on another tab. It could be a timing issue or other issues, I did not do a tcpdump or anything else to verify/validate.
As for the extension, linky? Sounds interesting. Thanks.
And you cannot understand why people who were subjected to abuse, or have a pseudonym, or any number of other legitimate reasons, might not want to have their real name associated with that because privacy doesn't exist?
And if you never login to any google services on that browser, yeah, it won't know who you are. If you ever do, not so much.
I've logged out of Google, and still seen the G+ counter increment.