bullshit. try saying something negative about android - even if it's based on facts, it'll be modded down.
For example (hey, watch this):
I think it is extremely hypocritical for all the Android fanbois to call for a boycott of Apple because of the Apple/Samsung lawsuit, but at the same time, give a free pass to both Google and Samsung for their abuses
a) That XBox ban was just requested *POST* buyout, if I remember correctly. Besides, Google can just stop it. They didn't. b) $4B for 50 patents vs $6.5M for 3,229 patents is considered reasonable? c) Have you actually read the patents? d) I'm with your stance on standards.
A phone without a slide to unlock the way Apple implemented it would be a pain (and only the way they implemented it - they showed other slide to unlocks in court that are non-infringing I believe).
A phone that *CANNOT* communicate on established 3G standards would *NOT* be a (smart) phone.
Additionally, you seem to forget - even Google thought Samsung was copying Apple.
So you are saying FRAND patent abuses are OK? That Google should be allowed to remove FAIR and REASONABLE from patents they consciously submitted to standard setting bodies, so that standards are dependent on their patents, and they they can use it to demand outrageous amounts of money, and that's just business as usual, so it's OK?
That it would impact everyone, if anyone is allowed to abuse FRAND patents is something you don't see?
Err, this is about Microsoft and Google. Specifically, Google abusing FRAND patents to get the Xbox 360 banned. I would have thought all the cries of "patent abuse" would be deafening. Unfortunately, I'm deafened by the silence from all the hypocrisy.
And anyway, what has the Google/Microsoft/XBox 360 ban got to do with the Apple/Samsung fight?
I don't use the one I have (company provided) precisely because I need a laptop. But friends who have bought one loved it because that is all they need (not a laptop).
Then what about Google's FRAND patent abuses? They want $4 billion from Microsoft for 50 H.264 patents, whereas Microsoft is only paying $6.5million for the other 3,229 H.264 patents.
Talk about being abusive. Where is that "FR" in FRAND eh?
And didn't they promise to uphold FRAND patents when they bought Motorola? Going back on your words is apparently a good thing?
Everyone blames Apple for shitty factory workers environment, even though Apple has been open and invited 3rd party audits. At the same time, Samsung's factories are giving people cancer, and they refuse to pay up.
That stupid one man show claims Apple employs underaged workers - except there's no evidence of it. Recent study shows Samsung's factories employ up to 80% workers who are students, where a huge portion are underaged workers
Apple updates iOS for phones up to 3 years old, regularly. Providing security patches and shit. All phones are sold with the most current OS. Samsung *STILL* sells Android 2.2 phones. And you will never get an update to 4.1 for those phones. Even phones and tablets sold with 4.0 will take 3-6 months before they *MIGHT* get upgraded to 4.1. The next version of Android? Security patches? *BWAHAHAHAHAHA*
Oh yeah, search for "most corrupt company in asia" and enjoy reading the shenanigans they pull.
See, this is where fanbois get irritating. Judge Koh actually rejected giving Apple the bans they wanted. Apple then appealed to the Appeals Court and the Appeals Court sent it back to Judge Koh saying "you are wrong, fix it", so Judge Koh had to go along with it.
You're a moron if you think the court excluded samsung's display of prior art. Samsung wanted to show what Apple produced as a *THOUGHT PROCESS* "if Sony had made the iPhone".
Now, if Apple was suing Sony, this might have been relevant.
But, and this is key:
1) This was not a real product 2) No one ever made it 3) It was an exercise in thinking
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You are shitting me right? It was published legally in Canada.
Next, you're going to tell me the publishers of Romeo and Juliet are all illegal.
Oh, wait, you mean all the laws are supposed to be compliant to US laws. That is why you guys are so worried about the UN taking over right?
bullshit. try saying something negative about android - even if it's based on facts, it'll be modded down.
For example (hey, watch this):
I think it is extremely hypocritical for all the Android fanbois to call for a boycott of Apple because of the Apple/Samsung lawsuit, but at the same time, give a free pass to both Google and Samsung for their abuses
1) Google's FRAND patent abuses - trying to get XBox 360 banned?!
2) Samsung's factories caused cancer, killed people, even the courts agreed, and Samsung refused to pay compensation
3) http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/09/02/heres-samsung-flew-bloggers-halfway-around-world-threatened-leave/ [and not just threaten, but actually left them there stranded - Nokia picked up the tab to send them home!]
You may want to start off with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_and_non-discriminatory_licensing
And understand what the fuck the F and R as well as ND means.
Again, how the fuck is that "Fair" and "Reasonable"? FRAND patents are *NOT* normal patents.
Patents gives the holder the right to *AND* not to license it to *ANYONE*
FRAND patent holders are *NOT* allowed to do that.
You get confused easily, don't you?
Changing the subject eh. Good debating technique.
Why don't you go get a Google tattoo while you're at it, fanboy.
a) That XBox ban was just requested *POST* buyout, if I remember correctly. Besides, Google can just stop it. They didn't.
b) $4B for 50 patents vs $6.5M for 3,229 patents is considered reasonable?
c) Have you actually read the patents?
d) I'm with your stance on standards.
Yup. Those idiots make it more difficult to have a real discussion. But, fuck 'em, I've plenty of karma to burn.
You certainly live in a very strange world.
A phone without a slide to unlock the way Apple implemented it would be a pain (and only the way they implemented it - they showed other slide to unlocks in court that are non-infringing I believe).
A phone that *CANNOT* communicate on established 3G standards would *NOT* be a (smart) phone.
Additionally, you seem to forget - even Google thought Samsung was copying Apple.
So you are saying FRAND patent abuses are OK? That Google should be allowed to remove FAIR and REASONABLE from patents they consciously submitted to standard setting bodies, so that standards are dependent on their patents, and they they can use it to demand outrageous amounts of money, and that's just business as usual, so it's OK?
That it would impact everyone, if anyone is allowed to abuse FRAND patents is something you don't see?
Jesus. And they said Apple fanbois were stupid.
Err, this is about Microsoft and Google. Specifically, Google abusing FRAND patents to get the Xbox 360 banned. I would have thought all the cries of "patent abuse" would be deafening. Unfortunately, I'm deafened by the silence from all the hypocrisy.
And anyway, what has the Google/Microsoft/XBox 360 ban got to do with the Apple/Samsung fight?
What has Microsoft done to Android? (that they don't do to anyone/anything else...)
If you wanted a laptop...
I don't use the one I have (company provided) precisely because I need a laptop. But friends who have bought one loved it because that is all they need (not a laptop).
Oh my. Marked as a troll because I tried to use facts to point out the hypocrisy of the android fanbois. Bwahahahaha.
Are you really defending Google abusing FRAND patents by using the justification that Google did not try to get the XBox 360 banned?
Because you know, they fucking did.
I'm impressed by the sheer hypocrisy from the Android fanbois.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google+xbox+360+ban
And just what/how are you restricted on your OSX system?
Then what about Google's FRAND patent abuses? They want $4 billion from Microsoft for 50 H.264 patents, whereas Microsoft is only paying $6.5million for the other 3,229 H.264 patents.
Talk about being abusive. Where is that "FR" in FRAND eh?
And didn't they promise to uphold FRAND patents when they bought Motorola? Going back on your words is apparently a good thing?
Everyone blames Apple for shitty factory workers environment, even though Apple has been open and invited 3rd party audits.
At the same time, Samsung's factories are giving people cancer, and they refuse to pay up.
That stupid one man show claims Apple employs underaged workers - except there's no evidence of it.
Recent study shows Samsung's factories employ up to 80% workers who are students, where a huge portion are underaged workers
Apple updates iOS for phones up to 3 years old, regularly. Providing security patches and shit. All phones are sold with the most current OS.
Samsung *STILL* sells Android 2.2 phones. And you will never get an update to 4.1 for those phones. Even phones and tablets sold with 4.0 will take 3-6 months before they *MIGHT* get upgraded to 4.1. The next version of Android? Security patches? *BWAHAHAHAHAHA*
Oh yeah, search for "most corrupt company in asia" and enjoy reading the shenanigans they pull.
See, this is where fanbois get irritating. Judge Koh actually rejected giving Apple the bans they wanted. Apple then appealed to the Appeals Court and the Appeals Court sent it back to Judge Koh saying "you are wrong, fix it", so Judge Koh had to go along with it.
Idiot fanbois all seem to forget what happened.
*sigh* What did I tell you about using reason and common sense on the internet again?!
You're a moron if you think the court excluded samsung's display of prior art. Samsung wanted to show what Apple produced as a *THOUGHT PROCESS* "if Sony had made the iPhone".
Now, if Apple was suing Sony, this might have been relevant.
But, and this is key:
1) This was not a real product
2) No one ever made it
3) It was an exercise in thinking
Hope you can follow along eh.
And the courts disagreed with you.
He can cheer from the sidelines telling them how he could help them. rah rah rah
Or perhaps the rest of us sees how similar Samsung made their phones to the iPhone?
Difference is, Apple paid Xerox for the right to use it.
Has Samsung paid Apple for all the copying they did?
What progress? Electric engines have been done. This is just a damned shell, albeit with some nice features.
Fake headlines to pull you in. Fuck that shit.