Hey, they also have the Korn shell (http://news.slashdot.org/story/01/02/06/2030205/david-korn-tells-all), even though it might not be the standard compliant korn shell...
768?!! You're shitting me. I can't live without 1600x1200 or better. You are probably one of those people who maximizes every single fucking window aren't you?
Well, other people know how to use a "window" or rather, multiple "windows", each showing enough data in the background while I work in the main "window".
just because you don't have the eyes for it, but I have 20/10 and 20/15 eyes, and even normal retina display is not good enough for me. I need something in the 400 dpi range before I don't see the dots, at 12" - 18" from the monitor.
And yes, my terminal.app runs at 6 point fontsize.
And you can still buy a macbook pro with ethernet. Not sure why you think that's a problem.
My macbook air connects to ethernet as well, via by tbolt monitor. At home, it's on wireless. And I'll be getting a couple of the tbolt adapters, but I really don't use it that often.
You're getting royally screwed. Use those salary sites and point out the discrepancy + your skills + experience and tell them for the additional headache of dealing with other people's shit, you need 20% more. Out of the goodness of your heart, you'll settle for X, otherwise, no thanks, not worth the headache.
By saying "no", you might have made a career ending move, however, so, start looking for another job.
Here's one idea that works really well. If you have a non-IT degree, consider getting an MBA with a concentration in MIS. That "Management Information Systems" bit is equivalent to "IT" for most recruiters.
Do your MBA part time. Continue getting experience. Then you have both a degree *AND* experience when you're done.
Everyone already pointed out a bunch of things. The key is this - if you don't have a degree, what can you show? Is there a website? A blog? A job somewhere, be it nopay/littlepay/volunteer that shows what you did? What can you show a potential employer as something you can do?
Second - show that you have a good attitude about learning. Show how you made mistakes, and then fixed them, and improved upon them.
Next - network! Join local usergroups. Help others. Answer questions. But please don't give stupid answers if you don't know what the hell you're doing. Like that guy who swore up and down that "tracert" is the Microsoft Trace Report tool. Or that idiot "hacker" who posted on youtube a traceroute to google, and then claiming the numbers indicate how many users are on each google server. Please don't embarrass yourself like that...
Also, find something and *FOCUS* on it. I have a ex-network guy on my team who makes $120k. He focused on networks and did that for a long time. Now he's doing something else for us, and doing a damned good job at it. Doesn't have a degree.
Illegal tying of OS to hardware, etc etc (go read how BeOS signed a deal with a laptop manufacturer to offer BeOS as an alternate OS, and how Microsoft forced them to "hide" that option.
They dominate not because they were good (go read how early Office versions would have access to secret APIs that competitors did not have), but because they pulled a shitload of dirty tricks.
And then people like you conveniently forget or gloss over those facts.
You are kidding me right? They've consistently went through and pushed their shit out to us without caring about what we need. Windows 7 has that snap to open full screen windows bullshit. *I FUCKING HATE AND LOATHE IT*
It was never default in the past 25 of windows. So in Win7, gratuitous change. I know a lot of windows people do not understand the concept of multiple overlapping windows, each showing only the data you need to see, but instead, have to maximize every single window. BUT TO TURN THAT INTO DEFAULT?! WTF?!
Microsoft has always been about pushing their shit to you (ribbons? *puke* Metro? *double puke*), and if it happened that it was something useful, well, as a user, you were just lucky.
Or hell, take it one step further, and have one of these companies write a web app that does this for you. Now you can sell it to the attorney and make money from him! And when he wants to add changes, welp, new contract with the new compan[y|ies]:)
Funny how my team loves me. I literally have people come crying to me for a position on my team. But one thing I do not tolerate is idiots. The ones who responded without using their reading comprehension skills, why should I pamper them?
I point out we can't find qualified candidates despite offering top dollars, and I get the peanut gallery making idiot comments assuming I'm paying too little or not grooming from my team, etc etc.
And then I'm supposed to lovingly groom you idiots into some semblance of understanding what the issue is, when you've already decided I'm wrong? Fuck that shit. If you're rude to me, well, fuck you.
"But $100k to $120k, and not in NYC or SF should bring in a decent selection of candidates at the very least. But I'm in one of those rare fields where there very low or near zero unemployment"
So that means there *are* candidates it's only they are already happily employed anywhere else and as the very facts demontrate, well, no, 100k to 120k is not enough to bring you a decent selection of candidates.
No, you below grade level reading comprehension idiot. When you are in a field with near zero unemployment, offering wages that are above market rates still don't bring in a decent selection of candidates. See, if people are happy with where they are at currently, they don't go out and look for jobs. This means even if you pay a premium, you still won't get the better candidates. This is one of the effects of zero unemployment.
I know it's a difficult concept to understand, but try to struggle through it. It will benefit you in the long run.
In other words: they are already being payed what they consider to be their fair share and you want to get them out of their comfort... by paying about the same!?
You must have some comprehension problems. Since when did I say I was paying them the same? Seriously, reading comprehension really is a useful skill. Try it sometimes.
In a team of 30, you appear to think that everyone will be a junior, and lovingly groomed over the next 5, 10 or 20 years into a senior or a lead, right?
Half my team has been with the company for 10 or more years, a few over 25. If they were capable of doing what I need, do you think I'd go out hunting for new people?
That was over 10 years ago. Why the fuck should I go back and give up my salary? And even if this was happening today, why the hell should I give up my salary to hire a junior guy when I'm trying to hire a senior level position? Read the other parts I just posted again. I'm paying $100k to $120k. This is not a fucking junior level position. At the risk of repeating myself - THIS IS NOT A FUCKING JUNIOR LEVEL POSITION
This shows why it is so difficult to hire qualified help. Lack of comprehension and tremendous level of self importance.
Your other points are irrelevant. An MBA is irrelevant to this discussion. If you think it is, this is more evidence you are an idiot.
Honestly, I prefer to hire locally, but my peer managers have had trouble finding qualified people as well. It's a freaking pain to do a H1-B. I would go through the pain and hassle for the right candidate, but, damn, surely there're some good people who learnt these kinds of shit on their own.
"While I have personally consolidated 3 positions into one (and my boss doubled my pay for doing that) this is not one of those times."
And you are an asshole.
When I need to be, yes. Why, this is "kiss your ass day" at your company is it?
By the way, when I consolidated 3 positions into one, that is *ME* taking on additional responsibilities when those people left. So my boss was happy to double my pay. And ultimately I ended up working only 3 hours a day, and playing starcraft the rest of the time. And my boss was happy about that, because I tripled the entire team's productivity *AND* improved their skillsets.
And I did hire a junior to be my backup, and made sure he was well trained when I left.
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Hey, they also have the Korn shell (http://news.slashdot.org/story/01/02/06/2030205/david-korn-tells-all), even though it might not be the standard compliant korn shell...
768?!! You're shitting me. I can't live without 1600x1200 or better. You are probably one of those people who maximizes every single fucking window aren't you?
Well, other people know how to use a "window" or rather, multiple "windows", each showing enough data in the background while I work in the main "window".
You really haven't been to ebay recently, have you? Recently like in the past 15 years or so?
I've never seen a 3 year old mac sell for $50. Unless it's broken.
just because you don't have the eyes for it, but I have 20/10 and 20/15 eyes, and even normal retina display is not good enough for me. I need something in the 400 dpi range before I don't see the dots, at 12" - 18" from the monitor.
And yes, my terminal.app runs at 6 point fontsize.
And you can still buy a macbook pro with ethernet. Not sure why you think that's a problem.
My macbook air connects to ethernet as well, via by tbolt monitor. At home, it's on wireless. And I'll be getting a couple of the tbolt adapters, but I really don't use it that often.
You're getting royally screwed. Use those salary sites and point out the discrepancy + your skills + experience and tell them for the additional headache of dealing with other people's shit, you need 20% more. Out of the goodness of your heart, you'll settle for X, otherwise, no thanks, not worth the headache.
By saying "no", you might have made a career ending move, however, so, start looking for another job.
Here's one idea that works really well. If you have a non-IT degree, consider getting an MBA with a concentration in MIS. That "Management Information Systems" bit is equivalent to "IT" for most recruiters.
Do your MBA part time. Continue getting experience. Then you have both a degree *AND* experience when you're done.
Everyone already pointed out a bunch of things. The key is this - if you don't have a degree, what can you show? Is there a website? A blog? A job somewhere, be it nopay/littlepay/volunteer that shows what you did? What can you show a potential employer as something you can do?
Second - show that you have a good attitude about learning. Show how you made mistakes, and then fixed them, and improved upon them.
Next - network! Join local usergroups. Help others. Answer questions. But please don't give stupid answers if you don't know what the hell you're doing. Like that guy who swore up and down that "tracert" is the Microsoft Trace Report tool. Or that idiot "hacker" who posted on youtube a traceroute to google, and then claiming the numbers indicate how many users are on each google server. Please don't embarrass yourself like that...
Also, find something and *FOCUS* on it. I have a ex-network guy on my team who makes $120k. He focused on networks and did that for a long time. Now he's doing something else for us, and doing a damned good job at it. Doesn't have a degree.
Microsoft paid a pretty penny for this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/11/05/how_ms_played_the_incompatibility/
yet, because of this, they captured the DOS market.
It will start with spellcheck...
Well, since you're an anonymous little troll, you're probably just looking in the mirror.
A thief cannot call out another thief? Sheesh
Heh. Did you ever see this? How Microsoft could redesign/reimagine the iPod packaging. Created by Microsoft's own marketing dept.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUXnJraKM3k
oh, how I wish I hadn't commented earlier... i need modpoints! :)
Illegal tying of OS to hardware, etc etc (go read how BeOS signed a deal with a laptop manufacturer to offer BeOS as an alternate OS, and how Microsoft forced them to "hide" that option.
They dominate not because they were good (go read how early Office versions would have access to secret APIs that competitors did not have), but because they pulled a shitload of dirty tricks.
And then people like you conveniently forget or gloss over those facts.
You are kidding me right? They've consistently went through and pushed their shit out to us without caring about what we need. Windows 7 has that snap to open full screen windows bullshit. *I FUCKING HATE AND LOATHE IT*
It was never default in the past 25 of windows. So in Win7, gratuitous change. I know a lot of windows people do not understand the concept of multiple overlapping windows, each showing only the data you need to see, but instead, have to maximize every single window. BUT TO TURN THAT INTO DEFAULT?! WTF?!
Microsoft has always been about pushing their shit to you (ribbons? *puke* Metro? *double puke*), and if it happened that it was something useful, well, as a user, you were just lucky.
Or hell, take it one step further, and have one of these companies write a web app that does this for you. Now you can sell it to the attorney and make money from him! And when he wants to add changes, welp, new contract with the new compan[y|ies] :)
Funny how my team loves me. I literally have people come crying to me for a position on my team. But one thing I do not tolerate is idiots. The ones who responded without using their reading comprehension skills, why should I pamper them?
I point out we can't find qualified candidates despite offering top dollars, and I get the peanut gallery making idiot comments assuming I'm paying too little or not grooming from my team, etc etc.
And then I'm supposed to lovingly groom you idiots into some semblance of understanding what the issue is, when you've already decided I'm wrong? Fuck that shit. If you're rude to me, well, fuck you.
Good for you. As an employee as well, I too enjoy a good wage, and feel that everyone should definitely get the most they can, for a job they like.
"But $100k to $120k, and not in NYC or SF should bring in a decent selection of candidates at the very least. But I'm in one of those rare fields where there very low or near zero unemployment"
So that means there *are* candidates it's only they are already happily employed anywhere else and as the very facts demontrate, well, no, 100k to 120k is not enough to bring you a decent selection of candidates.
No, you below grade level reading comprehension idiot. When you are in a field with near zero unemployment, offering wages that are above market rates still don't bring in a decent selection of candidates. See, if people are happy with where they are at currently, they don't go out and look for jobs. This means even if you pay a premium, you still won't get the better candidates. This is one of the effects of zero unemployment.
I know it's a difficult concept to understand, but try to struggle through it. It will benefit you in the long run.
In other words: they are already being payed what they consider to be their fair share and you want to get them out of their comfort... by paying about the same!?
You must have some comprehension problems. Since when did I say I was paying them the same? Seriously, reading comprehension really is a useful skill. Try it sometimes.
In a team of 30, you appear to think that everyone will be a junior, and lovingly groomed over the next 5, 10 or 20 years into a senior or a lead, right?
Half my team has been with the company for 10 or more years, a few over 25. If they were capable of doing what I need, do you think I'd go out hunting for new people?
You are indeed, a mucking foron.
Just because you wish it so doesn't make it so.
Again you prove your lack of comprehension.
That was over 10 years ago. Why the fuck should I go back and give up my salary? And even if this was happening today, why the hell should I give up my salary to hire a junior guy when I'm trying to hire a senior level position? Read the other parts I just posted again. I'm paying $100k to $120k. This is not a fucking junior level position. At the risk of repeating myself - THIS IS NOT A FUCKING JUNIOR LEVEL POSITION
This shows why it is so difficult to hire qualified help. Lack of comprehension and tremendous level of self importance.
Your other points are irrelevant. An MBA is irrelevant to this discussion. If you think it is, this is more evidence you are an idiot.
Honestly, I prefer to hire locally, but my peer managers have had trouble finding qualified people as well. It's a freaking pain to do a H1-B. I would go through the pain and hassle for the right candidate, but, damn, surely there're some good people who learnt these kinds of shit on their own.
I did...
So you can't prove it.
"While I have personally consolidated 3 positions into one (and my boss doubled my pay for doing that) this is not one of those times."
And you are an asshole.
When I need to be, yes. Why, this is "kiss your ass day" at your company is it?
By the way, when I consolidated 3 positions into one, that is *ME* taking on additional responsibilities when those people left. So my boss was happy to double my pay. And ultimately I ended up working only 3 hours a day, and playing starcraft the rest of the time. And my boss was happy about that, because I tripled the entire team's productivity *AND* improved their skillsets.
And I did hire a junior to be my backup, and made sure he was well trained when I left.