I like Jeff Minter too, but I don't see him as an innovator to be grouped in with the likes of Knuth. Has he even written anything much for any platforms other than commodore/amiga?
You can ignore Opera, but it would be a bad idea to do so. When I develop web sites, I test only in Opera during development. I've only had to go back and make a change a couple times to support other browsers after it looked good in Opera (mainly some weird table rendering in certain circumstances, and one certain issue with dynamically generated PDFs that all browsers are flaky about). I almost always use CSS also, so it's not just simplistic HTML.
The main people I wish would clean up their act with regard to Opera are banks and other heavy users of SSL. Certain combinations of redirects and SSL requests choke Mozilla and Opera (and newer Netscapes too). This usually manifests itself as the "I already logged in, but it doesn't think I logged in" problem. Again, if they would code to target Opera, it would automatically work in less strict browsers.
It doesn't make any sense to code and test primarily on browsers that have a high tolerance for bad code like IE and Mozilla. Catching potential problems early is a hallmark of good software engineering. Why risk relying on "bad code tolerance" features that may change or disappear in later versions?
If anyone who is black is offended, they missed my point.
can't bring myself to see the connect between racial discrimination and business sense
It costs no extra money to serve black people. It costs no extra money to develop a web site that is standards compliant (retrofitting an already severly broken site is a different matter). It's petty descrimination over something stupid, put in place by someone ignorant and lazy.
As a Libertarian, I'm not really in disagreement, it's their site, they can do what they want with it. I just wanted to point out some parallels in logic.
What are you talking about? You can use and distribute the software however you want, including commercially. Everyone is bound by the same terms and conditions as everyone else. Treating everyone who wants to distribute it under the same terms and conditions is what makes it not descrimination.
(only chargeable for commercial products of course)
I think you misunderstand the GNU project. This idea goes against the basic ideal of the GNU project that everyone should have the same rights to use GNU software. If you descriminate against any group, including commercial entities, then the GNU project really won't have anything to do with you. GNU has nothing to do with promoting non-commercial software, and you will never see the GNU project support a license that descriminates against commercial uses.
Another difference is that we end up paying for medical research out of our health care costs, whereas in much of Europe, medical research is subsidized separately from the socialized health care system.
So the taxpayers pay the bill rather than the consumers of health care. Oh wait, those are the same fucking people. Stupid fucking socialists.
. On a mailing-list I'm on, each time I send a message I get a dozen or more messages back, from people I've never heard of stating they're "out of office" or whatever.
Yes, now imagine that multiplied by a thousand. I think that's the kind of chaos a widespread whitelist system would cause.
Well that presents its own problems. I maintain a legitimate mailing list with about 3000 users on it. It could just as easily be 30,000 for a larger web site with a legitimate opt-in list.
If I send out a message, my return address is real and it comes back to my box. Now, I don't send messages out very often, maybe once every two to three months. As it is, I get hundreds of bounces from people cancelling accounts and whatnot. Under your system, I would have to jump through 3000 hoops just to send my mailing list out.
Substitute 3000 total subscribers with 3000 new subscribers a month instead, a reasonable number for a popular site that has an announcement list that people want to subscribe to.
In any case, in light of these facts, do you really think your scheme is still so hot?
Because it matters little unless you are running a server. I have cheap realteks in every system in my house, and regularly get the max 100Mbit bandwidth through them when shooting files around the house.
It's a $10 network card, and it's more than enough for most home uses. At work we use Intel or 3com in servers though, and 3coms in most of the desktops, mostly to ensure quality drivers.
LUG Member: You will not believe what you are about to see; that MS could have sunk so low that they can take pleasure to do this to another of Gods creatures. I hope you have a strong stomach senor.
Linus: Roll the ugliness.
Linus: Good Lord - I've heard about this - cat juggling! Stop! Stop! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Good. Could there be a god that would let this happen?
You haven't read the services agreement carefully for AS.
Once you agree to that agreement by buying one copy of AS, you must license each copy per-seat. I get really sick of explaining this to people.
http://www.redhat.com/licenses/
http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhlas_us.html?loc at ion=United+States&
(Asterisk emphasis mine)
BY *USING OR PURCHASING* RED HAT LINUX ADVANCED *SERVER OR SERVICES*, CUSTOMER SIGNIFIES ITS ASSENT TO THIS AGREEMENT....
REPORTING AND AUDIT. If Customer wishes to increase the number of Installed Servers, then Customer *will purchase* from Red Hat *additional Services for each additional Installed Server*....
Customer expressly grants to Red Hat the right to audit Customer's facilities and records from time to time in order to verify Customer's compliance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. ---
Go read it, it's plain english. The only way you could get around this is by never purchasing advanced server (compiling it all yourself), and thus never agreeing to this agreement. Of course, you won't get any of the support services at all. Otherwise, if you buy one copy of AS and then install it on multiple servers, you are violating this agreement, and Red Hat can audit you and force you to license the unlicensed servers.
It wouldn't matter, the ranges of radiation it measures are way too low to be useful in a nuclear indident. It's only useful for very low background levels of radiation.
It doesn't matter, this watch can't measure levels high enough to be useful in a nuclear incident. It's only useful for measuring very low levels of radiation.
If it was a big yellow civil defense counter (victoreen), then you damn well better not register anything from any radation source you have laying around, otherwise you are in big trouble.
Those counters are designed to measure radiation from about 100mREM to 500 REM accurately depending on model. This is several orders of magnitude higher than anything you would have from a high school science lab.
If it were sensitive enough a meter to measure such small amounts, it would be useless during a nuclear incident, where REMs are going to peak out in the several hundred/hr range, and diminish over the next few days to a few REMs/hr, at which time is begins to be safe to go outside for short periods. You can probably take about 50 cumulative REMs safely without getting sick. 100 is pushing it but you probably wouldn't die. The sick, elderly, and children are more suceptible, none of these numbers are absolute. The point is, these doses are many orders of magnitude times higher than your radiation sample.
See this link, for a survivalist site, it is a surprisingly well informed, accurate and unbiased assessment.
You realize that Red Hat Advanced Server costs several thousand dollars per seat, and is overkill for a simple file server. Your proposed solution isn't much cheaper.
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It's 64kB
You need an P2-350MHz, 128MB RAM and DirectX
Heh, is this a joke?
I like Jeff Minter too, but I don't see him as an innovator to be grouped in with the likes of Knuth. Has he even written anything much for any platforms other than commodore/amiga?
You can't have one without the other. System software knowledge with no clue about hardware is useless.
You can probably ignore Opera
You can ignore Opera, but it would be a bad idea to do so. When I develop web sites, I test only in Opera during development. I've only had to go back and make a change a couple times to support other browsers after it looked good in Opera (mainly some weird table rendering in certain circumstances, and one certain issue with dynamically generated PDFs that all browsers are flaky about). I almost always use CSS also, so it's not just simplistic HTML.
The main people I wish would clean up their act with regard to Opera are banks and other heavy users of SSL. Certain combinations of redirects and SSL requests choke Mozilla and Opera (and newer Netscapes too). This usually manifests itself as the "I already logged in, but it doesn't think I logged in" problem. Again, if they would code to target Opera, it would automatically work in less strict browsers.
It doesn't make any sense to code and test primarily on browsers that have a high tolerance for bad code like IE and Mozilla. Catching potential problems early is a hallmark of good software engineering. Why risk relying on "bad code tolerance" features that may change or disappear in later versions?
If anyone who is black is offended, they missed my point.
can't bring myself to see the connect between racial discrimination and business sense
It costs no extra money to serve black people. It costs no extra money to develop a web site that is standards compliant (retrofitting an already severly broken site is a different matter). It's petty descrimination over something stupid, put in place by someone ignorant and lazy.
As a Libertarian, I'm not really in disagreement, it's their site, they can do what they want with it. I just wanted to point out some parallels in logic.
That star must be pretty damn close if it exploded in 2000 and we can already see it.
Yeah, it's the same reason it's OK to refuse service to niggers, you are still catering to 88% of the universe.
What are you talking about? You can use and distribute the software however you want, including commercially. Everyone is bound by the same terms and conditions as everyone else. Treating everyone who wants to distribute it under the same terms and conditions is what makes it not descrimination.
(only chargeable for commercial products of course)
I think you misunderstand the GNU project. This idea goes against the basic ideal of the GNU project that everyone should have the same rights to use GNU software. If you descriminate against any group, including commercial entities, then the GNU project really won't have anything to do with you. GNU has nothing to do with promoting non-commercial software, and you will never see the GNU project support a license that descriminates against commercial uses.
Another difference is that we end up paying for medical research out of our health care costs, whereas in much of Europe, medical research is subsidized separately from the socialized health care system.
So the taxpayers pay the bill rather than the consumers of health care. Oh wait, those are the same fucking people. Stupid fucking socialists.
What if the fellow programmer walks in and catches you talking to a rubber duck? :)
For doing quick little hack jobs it's great. It's hard to justify the price tag it has today.
Especially since a 10 line Bash script in cron would do the same thing.
. On a mailing-list I'm on, each time I send a message I get a dozen or more messages back, from people I've never heard of stating they're "out of office" or whatever.
Yes, now imagine that multiplied by a thousand. I think that's the kind of chaos a widespread whitelist system would cause.
Well that presents its own problems. I maintain a legitimate mailing list with about 3000 users on it. It could just as easily be 30,000 for a larger web site with a legitimate opt-in list.
If I send out a message, my return address is real and it comes back to my box. Now, I don't send messages out very often, maybe once every two to three months. As it is, I get hundreds of bounces from people cancelling accounts and whatnot. Under your system, I would have to jump through 3000 hoops just to send my mailing list out.
Substitute 3000 total subscribers with 3000 new subscribers a month instead, a reasonable number for a popular site that has an announcement list that people want to subscribe to.
In any case, in light of these facts, do you really think your scheme is still so hot?
Show me one technological solution that will stop spam, that doesn't involve a constant cat-and-mouse game.
Or because the retail packaged value of salt is 25 cents a pound, which puts the bulk value at only several cents a pound.
Because it matters little unless you are running a server. I have cheap realteks in every system in my house, and regularly get the max 100Mbit bandwidth through them when shooting files around the house.
It's a $10 network card, and it's more than enough for most home uses. At work we use Intel or 3com in servers though, and 3coms in most of the desktops, mostly to ensure quality drivers.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/854509.asp?0dm=C11IT
:)
MS must have claimed that article in the name of CL1T.
Overheard at a recent LUG meeting:
LUG Member: You will not believe what you are about to see; that MS could have sunk so low that they can take pleasure to do this to another of Gods creatures. I hope you have a strong stomach senor.
Linus: Roll the ugliness.
Linus: Good Lord - I've heard about this - cat juggling! Stop! Stop! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Good. Could there be a god that would let this happen?
You haven't read the services agreement carefully for AS.
c at ion=United+States&
...
...
Once you agree to that agreement by buying one copy of AS, you must license each copy per-seat. I get really sick of explaining this to people.
http://www.redhat.com/licenses/
http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhlas_us.html?lo
(Asterisk emphasis mine)
BY *USING OR PURCHASING* RED HAT LINUX ADVANCED *SERVER OR SERVICES*, CUSTOMER SIGNIFIES ITS ASSENT TO THIS AGREEMENT.
REPORTING AND AUDIT. If Customer wishes to increase the number of Installed Servers, then Customer *will purchase* from Red Hat *additional Services for each additional Installed Server*.
Customer expressly grants to Red Hat the right to audit Customer's facilities and records from time to time in order to verify Customer's compliance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
---
Go read it, it's plain english. The only way you could get around this is by never purchasing advanced server (compiling it all yourself), and thus never agreeing to this agreement. Of course, you won't get any of the support services at all. Otherwise, if you buy one copy of AS and then install it on multiple servers, you are violating this agreement, and Red Hat can audit you and force you to license the unlicensed servers.
It wouldn't matter, the ranges of radiation it measures are way too low to be useful in a nuclear indident. It's only useful for very low background levels of radiation.
It doesn't matter, this watch can't measure levels high enough to be useful in a nuclear incident. It's only useful for measuring very low levels of radiation.
If it was a big yellow civil defense counter (victoreen), then you damn well better not register anything from any radation source you have laying around, otherwise you are in big trouble.
Those counters are designed to measure radiation from about 100mREM to 500 REM accurately depending on model. This is several orders of magnitude higher than anything you would have from a high school science lab.
If it were sensitive enough a meter to measure such small amounts, it would be useless during a nuclear incident, where REMs are going to peak out in the several hundred/hr range, and diminish over the next few days to a few REMs/hr, at which time is begins to be safe to go outside for short periods. You can probably take about 50 cumulative REMs safely without getting sick. 100 is pushing it but you probably wouldn't die. The sick, elderly, and children are more suceptible, none of these numbers are absolute. The point is, these doses are many orders of magnitude times higher than your radiation sample.
See this link, for a survivalist site, it is a surprisingly well informed, accurate and unbiased assessment.
You realize that Red Hat Advanced Server costs several thousand dollars per seat, and is overkill for a simple file server. Your proposed solution isn't much cheaper.
Maybe you meant Red Hat Professional.
The whole point was he couldn't get *out* of the condo.