Did anyone buy any of the Enron stuff from Dovebid when that went down a while back?
The main thing that discouraged me, other than lack of money, was the insanely high minimum proxy bid. Most of the stuff wasn't worth that much.
It was also confusing the way they listed a lot of identical items seperately, and then also had "lots" but apparently the minimum bid was still something like $250 for each item in the lot, not the lot as a whole.
Really a T1 isn't a bunch of equipment... the CSU/DSU is analgous to your cable modem, and then you need some sort of router, same as a cable modem. The only difference is that they use a (pricey) serial interface to the router last I checked.
The telco might put in a little box with some cards in it, but that's owned by them, so you don't need to mess with it.
Sangoma makes an internal PCI CSU/DSU that is completely compatible with Linux (open source drivers in the kernel).
If you use this, you can have CSU/DSU, firewall, and router all in one Linux box. Just plug the raw T1 right into the Linux box and it comes up as a network interface. We've had one of these running 2 years with no trouble at all.
They weren't cheap when we bought ours (About $800), but then again, CSU/DSUs can be pricey too unless you can pick one up used, and last I checked, most CSU/DSUs made you use exotic serial cables (RS-422?) to connect to your router, which must support said exotic serial interface.
Speaking of this topic, I saw a very interesting lecture on HCI on the UWTV channel on the satellite.
Basically they guy had great success applying social-interaction techniques to HCI. For example, people responded to computer flattery, even though they knew it was impossible for the computer to make such judgements!
He used CS grad students, so there was no misunderstandings about the computer's abilities.
He set up some game, and had the computer either not give any feedback, or to give flattery or insults. For the people where the computer gave feedback, he told the people that the part of the program that gave feedback wasn't implemented yet, so it just gave dummy messages instead.
The people who were flattered gave higher assements of their own performance, but surprisingly, they rated the game as better! The insulted people thought their performance was not as good, and also they disliked the game more.
The professor has also set up research involving quid-pro-quo situations with computers also. Basically when the computer does something right, people are a lot more likely to help the computer out for helping them.
People also are more likely to help out computers that are in the same "family" as the computer that helped them. He set up two PCs and after the computer did something for them, it asked them to go to the other PC and help the computer by doing some comparisions of pictures or some nonesense. People were more likely to help the other PC (did more comparisions) when the first PC helped them.
The surprising result here is when they substituted the other PC with a Mac running identical software, the people weren't as likely to help it!
Anyway, it's interesting the ways that people subconsiously give human traits to computers, even if on a consious level they "know better" (CS students).
Oh yeah, definitely. I'd say 90% of the troll and offtopic mods are editors. You can usually tell after you have been here long enough, which is user moderation and which is editor modding.
For example, suppose you post something pro-gun-ownership in a CmdrTaco story, or a story you know he is interested in. You get 4 up mods and 2 overrated mods... which are later cancelled by more upmods. That kind of thing is pretty obvious. Or suppose you get a very early post in a story that seems a little trollish, but it really insightful, which is instantly downmodded, and usually later modded back up...
Anyway, it's not always clear cut, but I can say with pretty good certainty which are editor mods and which are user mods. Modding in older stories is also an editor thing. A lot of the time they might slap down threads before a story gets archived, threads they don't want to be saved forever. For example this thread, which will likely be slapped down in the next day or two.
Anyway, all in all I think the editors do a pretty good job, considering the power they wield. They do have pet peeves though, and meta-discussion in offtopic threads such as this one is one of them. Taco hates meta threads in general. Draw what conclusions you like from that.:)
Don't bother. The editors will happily mod you down however many times it takes for the IP ban to kick in, and will never reply to this in an offtopic thread.
I see what you are saying, and I almost wrote a post to the same effect as yours, but I decided to check the GPL first:
"You are not required to accept this License, since you have not signed it. However, nothing else grants you permission to modify or distribute the Program or its derivative works. These actions are prohibited by law if you do not accept this License. Therefore, by modifying or distributing the Program (or any work based on the Program), you indicate your acceptance of this License to do so, and all its terms and conditions for copying, distributing or modifying the Program or works based on it."
So, one could argue that there is implicit acceptance of the GPL under the bold text above.
Whether you call it a GPL violation or copyright infringement is really meaningless IMO, I believe it is both.
What they don't tell you is that this was the inspiration for the network centric nature of UNIX. Thompson, being a visionary, knew that there eventually would be a world wide web of UNIX systems.
Yeah, the insane success of P2P networks, their high efficiency, low latency, and high reliability underscore the inevitable future of unregulated mesh Internet connectivity.
"Why can't I play Quake, I'm only 600 hops from the server across town?!?"
With high enough velocities, and hollow points, expansion takes on whole new meanings. The damage is not caused so much by the bullet itself, but by the shockwave.
Shooting 2 liter bottles of water with a hot loaded 22-250 hollowpoint is a spectacular demonstration of this.
Basically, as other people have pointed out, regarding the question at hand, it all depends on how much energy actually gets transferred to the body.
I don't know, a slug of lead going only a couple times the speed of sound that is less than 3mm across and weighs about 1.5 grams can do a hell of a lot of damage.
I'd imagine something weighing a ton, going that fast, would cause an order of magnitude more damage than the aforementioned.22 caliber hunting rifle round.
which I found in Oakland County real estate records.
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As long as there's no flipper babies, right Don?... It was only a couple of flipper babies!
But really, isn't the chance of some deformed (DNA-wise) sperm making it to fertilize and implant going to be higher with this? Especially in couples with only the men taking the pill and not the women?
Arbitrary remote code execution that affects every Windows computer is a big deal.
That can really never happen to anything like Linux or BSD, unless there was a remote kernel exploit that allowed arbitrary code execution, and as far as I know there has never been one in any open source OS, save for some unconfirmed rumors.
Yeah, but with Starband, your upstream bandwith is about 64Kilobits/sec over the satellite, so it's not much better than dialup.
As to the "cloudy" comment, the thing works unless it is getting ready to storm or is already storming basically. Generally during a heavy rainstorm is the only time it goes out.
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A firewall should only very rarely need security updates. You aren't running services on it, right? At most an SSH that is only facing inward....
Did anyone buy any of the Enron stuff from Dovebid when that went down a while back?
The main thing that discouraged me, other than lack of money, was the insanely high minimum proxy bid. Most of the stuff wasn't worth that much.
It was also confusing the way they listed a lot of identical items seperately, and then also had "lots" but apparently the minimum bid was still something like $250 for each item in the lot, not the lot as a whole.
Really a T1 isn't a bunch of equipment... the CSU/DSU is analgous to your cable modem, and then you need some sort of router, same as a cable modem. The only difference is that they use a (pricey) serial interface to the router last I checked.
The telco might put in a little box with some cards in it, but that's owned by them, so you don't need to mess with it.
Sangoma makes an internal PCI CSU/DSU that is completely compatible with Linux (open source drivers in the kernel).
If you use this, you can have CSU/DSU, firewall, and router all in one Linux box. Just plug the raw T1 right into the Linux box and it comes up as a network interface. We've had one of these running 2 years with no trouble at all.
They weren't cheap when we bought ours (About $800), but then again, CSU/DSUs can be pricey too unless you can pick one up used, and last I checked, most CSU/DSUs made you use exotic serial cables (RS-422?) to connect to your router, which must support said exotic serial interface.
Speaking of this topic, I saw a very interesting lecture on HCI on the UWTV channel on the satellite.
Basically they guy had great success applying social-interaction techniques to HCI. For example, people responded to computer flattery, even though they knew it was impossible for the computer to make such judgements!
He used CS grad students, so there was no misunderstandings about the computer's abilities.
He set up some game, and had the computer either not give any feedback, or to give flattery or insults. For the people where the computer gave feedback, he told the people that the part of the program that gave feedback wasn't implemented yet, so it just gave dummy messages instead.
The people who were flattered gave higher assements of their own performance, but surprisingly, they rated the game as better! The insulted people thought their performance was not as good, and also they disliked the game more.
The professor has also set up research involving quid-pro-quo situations with computers also. Basically when the computer does something right, people are a lot more likely to help the computer out for helping them.
People also are more likely to help out computers that are in the same "family" as the computer that helped them. He set up two PCs and after the computer did something for them, it asked them to go to the other PC and help the computer by doing some comparisions of pictures or some nonesense. People were more likely to help the other PC (did more comparisions) when the first PC helped them.
The surprising result here is when they substituted the other PC with a Mac running identical software, the people weren't as likely to help it!
Anyway, it's interesting the ways that people subconsiously give human traits to computers, even if on a consious level they "know better" (CS students).
So you do think it's them doing the modding
:)
Oh yeah, definitely. I'd say 90% of the troll and offtopic mods are editors. You can usually tell after you have been here long enough, which is user moderation and which is editor modding.
For example, suppose you post something pro-gun-ownership in a CmdrTaco story, or a story you know he is interested in. You get 4 up mods and 2 overrated mods... which are later cancelled by more upmods. That kind of thing is pretty obvious. Or suppose you get a very early post in a story that seems a little trollish, but it really insightful, which is instantly downmodded, and usually later modded back up...
Anyway, it's not always clear cut, but I can say with pretty good certainty which are editor mods and which are user mods. Modding in older stories is also an editor thing. A lot of the time they might slap down threads before a story gets archived, threads they don't want to be saved forever. For example this thread, which will likely be slapped down in the next day or two.
Anyway, all in all I think the editors do a pretty good job, considering the power they wield. They do have pet peeves though, and meta-discussion in offtopic threads such as this one is one of them. Taco hates meta threads in general. Draw what conclusions you like from that.
Don't bother. The editors will happily mod you down however many times it takes for the IP ban to kick in, and will never reply to this in an offtopic thread.
One hour studying readability and HCI would have served them well.... What a shitty looking site.
I see what you are saying, and I almost wrote a post to the same effect as yours, but I decided to check the GPL first:
"You are not required to accept this License, since you have not signed it. However, nothing else grants you permission to modify or distribute the Program or its derivative works. These actions are prohibited by law if you do not accept this License. Therefore, by modifying or distributing the Program (or any work based on the Program), you indicate your acceptance of this License to do so, and all its terms and conditions for copying, distributing or modifying the Program or works based on it."
So, one could argue that there is implicit acceptance of the GPL under the bold text above.
Whether you call it a GPL violation or copyright infringement is really meaningless IMO, I believe it is both.
Don't even try to argue with him about the CSS stuff. I tried and got absolutely no where.
Did you ever tell him?
Actually you are talking about a passport, a visa is generally stamped into the passport indicating you have permission to enter the nation.
discovered by Ken Thompson
What they don't tell you is that this was the inspiration for the network centric nature of UNIX. Thompson, being a visionary, knew that there eventually would be a world wide web of UNIX systems.
Yeah, the insane success of P2P networks, their high efficiency, low latency, and high reliability underscore the inevitable future of unregulated mesh Internet connectivity.
"Why can't I play Quake, I'm only 600 hops from the server across town?!?"
With high enough velocities, and hollow points, expansion takes on whole new meanings. The damage is not caused so much by the bullet itself, but by the shockwave.
Shooting 2 liter bottles of water with a hot loaded 22-250 hollowpoint is a spectacular demonstration of this.
Basically, as other people have pointed out, regarding the question at hand, it all depends on how much energy actually gets transferred to the body.
I don't know, a slug of lead going only a couple times the speed of sound that is less than 3mm across and weighs about 1.5 grams can do a hell of a lot of damage.
.22 caliber hunting rifle round.
I'd imagine something weighing a ton, going that fast, would cause an order of magnitude more damage than the aforementioned
which I found in Oakland County real estate records.
This just came in my mail box:
From: "ratings@techie.com"
To:
Reply-To: "ratings@techie.com"
Subject: Review Results: Real Estate Search with 1% Cashback
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:28:08
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000ams
That runs completely counter to what MS's design goals are.
Document-centric, not application centric.
Really, they took this stupid design goal from Apple, king of the "you don't run applications, you run documents" paradigm.
This one mindset has caused a large number of MS's recent worms and viruses.
I don't know...
If you are the type to buy into possibly fabricated documents on strange web sites....
This does not affect EVERY windows computer.
Last I checked, every Windows computer runs IE. All the time. Can't unload it.
That sounds a lot like "every Windows computer" to me.
As long as there's no flipper babies, right Don? ... It was only a couple of flipper babies!
But really, isn't the chance of some deformed (DNA-wise) sperm making it to fertilize and implant going to be higher with this? Especially in couples with only the men taking the pill and not the women?
no matter how insignificant, is made public?
Arbitrary remote code execution that affects every Windows computer is a big deal.
That can really never happen to anything like Linux or BSD, unless there was a remote kernel exploit that allowed arbitrary code execution, and as far as I know there has never been one in any open source OS, save for some unconfirmed rumors.
here's just something about a liquid fueled center surrounded by a bunch of boosters [boeing.com].
<homer>
mmmmmm..... nougat
</homer>
I bet they use those shitty chinese electrolytic caps too. :)
Is this thing supposed to eventually carry a human?
Yes, of course I've done it!
What I was describing wasn't theoretical, it's my actual firewall setup, and it's not that slow even.
P-166 with 80 megs ram, mouse, keyboard all works and everything, 1.6GB hard disk, tiny personal firewall (or whatever they call it now)...
It has a caching web proxy that you pretty much need to use for starband, I think I gave it 100 megs for caching.
It's actually not too bad. I still get full speed downloads, up to 120kilobytes/sec, the same as hooking it to a fast computer.
Yeah, but with Starband, your upstream bandwith is about 64Kilobits/sec over the satellite, so it's not much better than dialup.
As to the "cloudy" comment, the thing works unless it is getting ready to storm or is already storming basically. Generally during a heavy rainstorm is the only time it goes out.