agreed. even the summary is nothing but provocation.
NoSQL databases have grown up a bit (and some, such as Google's BigTable, are now mature) and prove themselves worthy. And yet the fight continues
too bad the ones perpetuating the fight haven't grown up.
Tech writer (and programmer) Jeff Cogswell examines both sides from a programming perspective.
no thanks. how about we just talk rationally about scenarios in which you would prefer to use one or the other? how about speaking intelligently about the benefits of both, and how they should be properly used, instead of giving any attention to the bickering that is only going on by people who don't know how to use either one properly?
check out this gem FTA:
2. Relational data doesn’t map well to typical programming structures that often consist of complex data types or hierarchical data. Data such as XML is especially difficult because of its hierarchical nature. Complex objects that contain objects and lists inside of them do not always map directly to a single row in a single table.
you mean the developer actually has to do his job? the developer actually has to tell his ORM what he's thinking, and organize his objects in a way that makes the data well understood? shudder to think. "i thought it was all drag and drop in visual studio, i never became a programmer to WRITE CODE!!! omg!!"
but wait, here's #3 in their list:
3. Relational data doesn’t map well. Combine that with the need to handle the syntax of SQL, and writing client code for accessing SQL databases becomes difficult.
look, it's just #2 written a different way. why should i care what incompetent programmers and dbas think about nosql? i eat their breakfast for lunch everyday.
it does not remain a question, you just didn't RTFA. why does no one care about the safety of people in the explosion?
No one was hurt when a blast in a 13th-floor electrical room on Wednesday brought down Alberta Health Services computers, put three radio stations off the air and affected some banking services.
because no one was hurt, you fucking chicken little. if you gave a shit at all about "the people" you would have RTFA to find out. go ahead and read it. i hope it brings stuff into perspective for you.
stop assuming. you have no idea what this person's parents' attitudes and behavior toward alcohol were. i also started smoking weed long before trying alcohol, but my parents were against both and used neither. sometimes people just make informed choices for themselves, try something, and decide if they like it or not.
the relevance of the routing is exactly why the pen register is so useful, but the pen register has little to do with the real concerns about ISP spying. the article is a scaremonger piece about digital piracy -- ISPs have already been spying for a few years now. what's really wrong with ISP spying is that they are selling your elastic asshole to the unholy cabal of online advertising, worse than facebook does. once this becomes accepted (i would almost say it already is accepted but it's not even really known about) it can also be used to apply censorship as one (anyone, government or corporation) sees fit, in a way that makes attempts to circumvent it futile. when advertisers target tv they have control over what gets broadcast. the money they spend on advertising on broadcast networks is used to influence what those networks broadcast, a form of censorship. the internet is a different beast than the tv or telephone because it's also a cheap, accessible, interactive personal printing press that users can control via plugins and browser features. the freedom of the press only applies to those that own one, and now we all can own one. but we don't all own an ISP.... mining data on online behavior at that level is like having someone stalking you. it's much more than an IP trace to see who's illegally sharing.
guns were invented first and foremost for war, so that's why it is the way it is. it's not the other way around. the RAT tool was also invented for an aggressive purpose, but can be used for good in the right context. it's amazing how many people completely missed this and decided i must be trolling. not this time, assholes!
"DarkComet RAT ends like this after several years of res/dev and with thousands of users through the world,” DarkcoderSc added. “The source codes will remain private and not for sale."
imagine the inventor of the firearm deciding to call it quits because someone found a way to hunt with it instead of kill people (in self defense even?).
Symantec said that any closures of RAT projects were a positive thing, especially if the creators were compelled to do so by the threat of prosecution.
the same way cops are happy when full auto assault rifles are off the streets, but feds/military still want to use them. take away symantec's RATs and you will hear lots of crying.
You're not getting it: with SSL-encrypted traffic the route is irrelevant.
no, i think you don't get it. the route is not irrelevant. spying doesn't necessarily have to be understanding what two parties are saying. you can follow someone, and regardless of what a person is doing or saying at their destination, you can infer a relationship between the person you're following and their destination, as well as others who share that destination.
e.g., you could follow someone you think is cheating on you and discover that they are going to the hospital every thursday. what are they doing there? who knows? they could be volunteering to read to kids, they could be going in for test results, they could be getting recurring treatments, or they could be cheating on you with some nurse. with a little more observation of the traffic behavior (not the traffic contents) you could infer other things. how long did they stay? who else arrived at the same place at approx. the same time? who else left the same place at approx. the same time? one person? ten people? what other places do these same people frequent? do they frequent them at the same time, or do they both at least frequent them with a consistent pattern?
without having to hear any dialogue between two people, you can determine a relationship between them and between them and their destination. i could follow someone (joe schmoe) to anywhere and wind up at a bar. then knowing that bars are places that guys usually pick up women, i could follow all the women who leave the bar at the same time the first guy i'm following leaves. i don't even have to follow them both at the same time going to the same location, but that would help my spying. all i would have to do is keep watching all the other places these two go on their own, and then see if they both overlap anywhere at any time, and decide if the other locations have significance. in this case, if one of the women who left the same bar as the guy i'm spying on appears at planned parenthood 3 months later, and so does this guy, i don't have to see them arrive or leave together at planned parenthood to infer they are there because of each other. i also have an idea what they might have been talking about and what problems they might be sharing. no phone calls or emails intercepted, nobody made aware they are being watched. i don't even need confirmation, just high probability.
in real life we call this stalking (under legal auspices we call it investigation) but online it's called marketing. last i checked, stalking (and even investigation) is an invasion of privacy. it's not a big leap to apply "online marketing" techniques to online censorship either.
i fully expected them to keep the old email addresses, so you're right it's not surprising. i figured they just changed what was displayed on the page. every one of my contacts on facebook has had their email reverted (last i checked most had not done so even though i asked them to) while a friend of mine says he still has a lot of the @facebook.com addresses on his friends' info. not sure if there's a rollout going on or if my friends actually reset theirs. it'd be nice to know what's going on with it.
i'm pretty sure it would be illegal to sell my social security number and other security sensitive data like that to advertisers. having seen what facebook and twitter do with your activity it's not terribly paranoid to think our behavior won't be sold. current online behavior is one thing, putting a smart meter in your home makes your real life behavior online.
It takes a large tinfoil hat to believe these meters will identify anything that could not be guessed at by anyone.
you're making vague, general guesses. the smart meters would allow a very refined guess, which is not available to the passerby. as i mentioned before, when these guesses are made more educated by other data mining techniques, it can get invasive. as for advertisers already having behavior data, this smart meter data could be used to help increase their statistical reliability.
do you suppose a roku has the same energy signature as a slingbox? as an advertiser trying to guess which one you might have or which one you might use more, and not being patient enough for you to talk about it on facebook, it would add a pile of data to what i already have. you really just don't have enough imagination. maybe that's because you're not paranoid enough either. just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean you're not being sold to.
it looks to me like this might already be fixed (at least if they're rolling out in stages i got a fix update it seems) and better yet all my contacts synced from FB have their email addresses reverted back to their real addresses and not that shit @facebook.com address. maybe this "glitch" was some real damage control for that email address fiasco?
sorry but this is not insightful. it's blind and shows a lack of imagination.
they have all that info on you, but its significance is for identify theft. the issue with smart meters is not identity theft.
with detailed power usage and list of common household items and their individual power usage, plus other data mining techniques to figure out what you've paid for (like all that shit people brag about on social media - zomg! my tv is HUGE! come watch the game!!) it can be inferred what items, or what narrow list of items you might be using and when, the frequency of use, etc. this info can then be sold to the same advertisers that stalk you on social media.
the articles linked to in the summary (which you obviously couldn't be bothered to read) explain far more eloquently than i. since you suck so bad at following links, here's the relevant ones from the summary, drilling down to the good stuff. all you have to do is click (oh, and read too. that's important):
i think you may be right. the summary link yields this bit of info:
by sblanz on Monday June 25th 2012, 13:07
Ok they answered. They told me Linux is not supported, but if you can manage to make it run there, since no file is changed and no advantage is given to the player, you can do that and it's not forbidden.
you know the old saying, "wish in one hand and shit in the other -- see which one you get first." how useful is this to marketers when everyone "Wants" a lamborghini, a $10,000 designer suit, and other outrageously expensive shit. dumb ass idea. everyone start making your ideals into product pages. then we can "Want" world peace, war with china, no more taxes, death to our least favorite politicians/entertainers/slashdotters, etc. what a stupid, stupid, stupid idea ripe for abuse. just like Like.
Slashdot Mirror
NoSQL databases have grown up a bit (and some, such as Google's BigTable, are now mature) and prove themselves worthy. And yet the fight continues
too bad the ones perpetuating the fight haven't grown up.
Tech writer (and programmer) Jeff Cogswell examines both sides from a programming perspective.
no thanks. how about we just talk rationally about scenarios in which you would prefer to use one or the other? how about speaking intelligently about the benefits of both, and how they should be properly used, instead of giving any attention to the bickering that is only going on by people who don't know how to use either one properly?
check out this gem FTA:
2. Relational data doesn’t map well to typical programming structures that often consist of complex data types or hierarchical data. Data such as XML is especially difficult because of its hierarchical nature. Complex objects that contain objects and lists inside of them do not always map directly to a single row in a single table.
you mean the developer actually has to do his job? the developer actually has to tell his ORM what he's thinking, and organize his objects in a way that makes the data well understood? shudder to think. "i thought it was all drag and drop in visual studio, i never became a programmer to WRITE CODE!!! omg!!"
but wait, here's #3 in their list:
3. Relational data doesn’t map well. Combine that with the need to handle the syntax of SQL, and writing client code for accessing SQL databases becomes difficult.
look, it's just #2 written a different way. why should i care what incompetent programmers and dbas think about nosql? i eat their breakfast for lunch everyday.
i think that was the point AC was making.
No one was hurt when a blast in a 13th-floor electrical room on Wednesday brought down Alberta Health Services computers, put three radio stations off the air and affected some banking services.
because no one was hurt, you fucking chicken little. if you gave a shit at all about "the people" you would have RTFA to find out. go ahead and read it. i hope it brings stuff into perspective for you.
it's the warm body on the other end of the line who kisses your ass so well you can hardly yell at them for anything
you are the only one here in need of an excuse
erowid.org was a great site, so was deoxy.org. i haven't been to those sites in a while.
stop assuming. you have no idea what this person's parents' attitudes and behavior toward alcohol were. i also started smoking weed long before trying alcohol, but my parents were against both and used neither. sometimes people just make informed choices for themselves, try something, and decide if they like it or not.
cool story, bro
roflcopters
the relevance of the routing is exactly why the pen register is so useful, but the pen register has little to do with the real concerns about ISP spying. the article is a scaremonger piece about digital piracy -- ISPs have already been spying for a few years now. what's really wrong with ISP spying is that they are selling your elastic asshole to the unholy cabal of online advertising, worse than facebook does. once this becomes accepted (i would almost say it already is accepted but it's not even really known about) it can also be used to apply censorship as one (anyone, government or corporation) sees fit, in a way that makes attempts to circumvent it futile. when advertisers target tv they have control over what gets broadcast. the money they spend on advertising on broadcast networks is used to influence what those networks broadcast, a form of censorship. the internet is a different beast than the tv or telephone because it's also a cheap, accessible, interactive personal printing press that users can control via plugins and browser features. the freedom of the press only applies to those that own one, and now we all can own one. but we don't all own an ISP.... mining data on online behavior at that level is like having someone stalking you. it's much more than an IP trace to see who's illegally sharing.
http://trudalane.net/resources/node/424
guns were invented first and foremost for war, so that's why it is the way it is. it's not the other way around. the RAT tool was also invented for an aggressive purpose, but can be used for good in the right context. it's amazing how many people completely missed this and decided i must be trolling. not this time, assholes!
ayn rand bashing is so bourgeois but this was funny. joke approved.
"DarkComet RAT ends like this after several years of res/dev and with thousands of users through the world,” DarkcoderSc added. “The source codes will remain private and not for sale."
imagine the inventor of the firearm deciding to call it quits because someone found a way to hunt with it instead of kill people (in self defense even?).
Symantec said that any closures of RAT projects were a positive thing, especially if the creators were compelled to do so by the threat of prosecution.
the same way cops are happy when full auto assault rifles are off the streets, but feds/military still want to use them. take away symantec's RATs and you will hear lots of crying.
You're not getting it: with SSL-encrypted traffic the route is irrelevant.
no, i think you don't get it. the route is not irrelevant. spying doesn't necessarily have to be understanding what two parties are saying. you can follow someone, and regardless of what a person is doing or saying at their destination, you can infer a relationship between the person you're following and their destination, as well as others who share that destination.
e.g., you could follow someone you think is cheating on you and discover that they are going to the hospital every thursday. what are they doing there? who knows? they could be volunteering to read to kids, they could be going in for test results, they could be getting recurring treatments, or they could be cheating on you with some nurse. with a little more observation of the traffic behavior (not the traffic contents) you could infer other things. how long did they stay? who else arrived at the same place at approx. the same time? who else left the same place at approx. the same time? one person? ten people? what other places do these same people frequent? do they frequent them at the same time, or do they both at least frequent them with a consistent pattern?
without having to hear any dialogue between two people, you can determine a relationship between them and between them and their destination. i could follow someone (joe schmoe) to anywhere and wind up at a bar. then knowing that bars are places that guys usually pick up women, i could follow all the women who leave the bar at the same time the first guy i'm following leaves. i don't even have to follow them both at the same time going to the same location, but that would help my spying. all i would have to do is keep watching all the other places these two go on their own, and then see if they both overlap anywhere at any time, and decide if the other locations have significance. in this case, if one of the women who left the same bar as the guy i'm spying on appears at planned parenthood 3 months later, and so does this guy, i don't have to see them arrive or leave together at planned parenthood to infer they are there because of each other. i also have an idea what they might have been talking about and what problems they might be sharing. no phone calls or emails intercepted, nobody made aware they are being watched. i don't even need confirmation, just high probability.
in real life we call this stalking (under legal auspices we call it investigation) but online it's called marketing. last i checked, stalking (and even investigation) is an invasion of privacy. it's not a big leap to apply "online marketing" techniques to online censorship either.
seems legit
i fully expected them to keep the old email addresses, so you're right it's not surprising. i figured they just changed what was displayed on the page. every one of my contacts on facebook has had their email reverted (last i checked most had not done so even though i asked them to) while a friend of mine says he still has a lot of the @facebook.com addresses on his friends' info. not sure if there's a rollout going on or if my friends actually reset theirs. it'd be nice to know what's going on with it.
It takes a large tinfoil hat to believe these meters will identify anything that could not be guessed at by anyone.
you're making vague, general guesses. the smart meters would allow a very refined guess, which is not available to the passerby. as i mentioned before, when these guesses are made more educated by other data mining techniques, it can get invasive. as for advertisers already having behavior data, this smart meter data could be used to help increase their statistical reliability.
do you suppose a roku has the same energy signature as a slingbox? as an advertiser trying to guess which one you might have or which one you might use more, and not being patient enough for you to talk about it on facebook, it would add a pile of data to what i already have. you really just don't have enough imagination. maybe that's because you're not paranoid enough either. just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean you're not being sold to.
it looks to me like this might already be fixed (at least if they're rolling out in stages i got a fix update it seems) and better yet all my contacts synced from FB have their email addresses reverted back to their real addresses and not that shit @facebook.com address. maybe this "glitch" was some real damage control for that email address fiasco?
sorry but this is not insightful. it's blind and shows a lack of imagination.
they have all that info on you, but its significance is for identify theft. the issue with smart meters is not identity theft.
with detailed power usage and list of common household items and their individual power usage, plus other data mining techniques to figure out what you've paid for (like all that shit people brag about on social media - zomg! my tv is HUGE! come watch the game!!) it can be inferred what items, or what narrow list of items you might be using and when, the frequency of use, etc. this info can then be sold to the same advertisers that stalk you on social media.
the articles linked to in the summary (which you obviously couldn't be bothered to read) explain far more eloquently than i. since you suck so bad at following links, here's the relevant ones from the summary, drilling down to the good stuff. all you have to do is click (oh, and read too. that's important):
http://stopsmartmeters.org/why-stop-smart-meters/
http://stopsmartmeters.org/2010/09/22/interview-with-eff-how-smart-meters-violate-our-right-to-privacy/
that's all you see. what do they see?
not according to TFA
by sblanz on Monday June 25th 2012, 13:07
Ok they answered. They told me Linux is not supported, but if you can manage to make it run there, since no file is changed and no advantage is given to the player, you can do that and it's not forbidden.
you know the old saying, "wish in one hand and shit in the other -- see which one you get first." how useful is this to marketers when everyone "Wants" a lamborghini, a $10,000 designer suit, and other outrageously expensive shit. dumb ass idea. everyone start making your ideals into product pages. then we can "Want" world peace, war with china, no more taxes, death to our least favorite politicians/entertainers/slashdotters, etc. what a stupid, stupid, stupid idea ripe for abuse. just like Like.
If nukes aren't part of your model, then they are not part of your model.
that's a pretty convenient way to dismiss what you don't want to hear.
can we all please stop explaining the portal cake references? we get it. we fucking get it.