Not to agree with Barnett, but saying "software...in and of itself has no value", relies on a contrived and extremely narrow definition of value, and is clearly highly debatable (cough cough *spurious crap*).
Depends where you are. In many countries the likelihood of being arrested for carrying a gun is far higher than that of needing to defend yourself with a lethal weapon.
Well, the Unity interface is widely understood to be half-baked, rigid experience, that looks to have been rushed to market. If you want to take advantage of the large Ubuntu user-base, try something like Pinguy Linux or Linux Mint.
"So if humans and neanderthals could in fact interbreed, then wouldn't they be the same species? "
Capable of producing offspring is a condition of the category 'species'. This does not exclude the fact that different species can also interbreed.
"Were they any further apart than pygmys and tall white europeans?"
Classification of species is based on the study of lineages, not phenotypical differences, which are often quite superficial and controlled for by only subtle genetic differences.
"and probably be considered human"
I believe Neanderthals are considered a human species. When people say 'modern humans', they mean Homo Sapiens Sapiens, as opposed to now extinct non-modern humans.
You probably mean Melanesians, who populated South East Asia and the South Pacific earliest. The ancestors of Hawaiians, etc, migrated over to SE Asia at a much later period and are descended from ancestors shared, more generically, with other Asian populations (and, as such, probably have evidence of the Neanderthal haplotype, that supposedly marks out all non-sub Saharan Africans).
If you think Hawaiian (or Fijian or Indonesian) look weird, its probably because you're a small minded fool, who, like all parochial racist half-wits, reads far to much significance into trivial and shallow phenotypical differences.
And, surprise surprise, like all of the racist posters to Slashdot, has neither the balls not to post as AC, as he knows his views are outmoded and is ashamed of himself/afraid of the reactions of others, nor does he have the force of mind to rationally address his own personal biases. In short he is a cowardly and weak-minded simpleton.
I read (a long time ago, look for your own sources), that a highly profitable overland oil pipeline could be run through Afghanistan, and this could be argued as being a strategic interest , motivating (partly) US invasion.
"16 percent of the prison population can be classified as severely mentally ill, meaning that they fit the psychiatric classification for illnesses such as schizophrenia, major depression, and bipolar disorder. According to staff at city and community jails, 25 percent of the jail population is severely mentally ill. However, when other mental illnesses, such as anti-social personality disorder, borderline personality disorder and depression, are included, the numbers are much higher, and NAMI puts the number of inmates suffering from both mental illness and substance abuse the percentage at well over 50 percent. "
I see. I got from the brief article that Hurd will be ready for release along with Wheezy, not that it would be a Hurd based Wheezy. Though, it looks like you and the original poster are correct. Fair cop.
"HURD is just there for the everything-must-be-GNU crowd. It exists for political, not technical, reasons."
Seemingly you could make that argument. However, the purpose of the two example i gave was that they weren't Linux (or *nix) and offered interesting features based on different development paths, that may not have otherwise come to be. Such as the great RAM disk feature in AmigaOS, whereby you can install new programs to RAM, for testing purposes. Or the pervasive tabbing applications feature in Haiku.
Point being, there is always room at the party for people to come up with radically different OSs, and that there are certainly things to be gained from that. Besides, if people choose to dedicate their time to these projects, they obviously see value in them, even if that is just a focus on 'purity' (in this case), and who is anyone else to say these projects are worthless, especially in the case of Hurd, when we haven't see what it has to offer, in the long run.
So, i guess the thrust of your argument is, different tools for different jobs. That is a fair argument, one 'many-tentacled' program could get a little unwieldy.
By enhanced graphics capabilities, i pretty much meant features like, transparency, layering, a thorough tools palette, stretch and scale options, and whatnot. Which would save me porting portions of things in an out of different programs to get my desired result.
Drupal appears to pretty much be a wiki, no? At least it is a browser based interface. I was thinking more along the lines of a discrete app with 'live' options for group projects.
Cheers, Inkscape looks great. Though, (bangs the drum) some extended graphics capabilities in an office application would be cool, perhaps an office app with 'advanced' plugin support could offer many innovative features and allow devs and users all sorts of opportunities (including the desired).
However, i believe, network enabled, collaborative document editing would have much user interest (a la Google Docs), as evidenced by the popularity of wikis.
And, partly, i was just repulsed by the idea that the office suite paradigm was somehow finished and there could never be any room for innovation or improvement. And, so i just tried to think up a couple of possible arbitrary examples to the contrary.
If i write like a verbose corporate droid, it might be that i have been up all night (its 7:10 in the morning here), or simply that i am a pompous English man.
Hi. I'm sorry but i didn't really get the gist of your post, as it applies to the issue i described. So, do you not experience any issues with Kupfer (i am using version 201) not registering newly saved Firefox bookmarks? Do newly bookmarked items appear, more or less, instantly in Kupfer for you?
Oh, i feel so ashamed now. You have made me feel so small.
So, your hung up on the terms i used (i try to write explicitly), but perhaps you could engage your faculties and try and see past them, to the concept i was trying to invoke. Currently GIMP handles text quite badly, beyond a very basic level, and i am often trying to make flyers, which are heavily text based, but also very graphics heavy. An office suite with some more capable graphics options would be sweet.
In fairness, on rereading that sentence, it could have done without the last bit.
But, you still bring nothing relevant to the debate.
Okay, i went there i read all the comments, they were mostly weak jokes, repeated over and over again, and i learned very little about the project. So, Stallman is easy to make jokes about and Hurd has been in development longer than anything, but really....
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So, you're that person in the US taking the train? Don't you know that is reminiscent of European style socialism, you unpatriotic individual, you.
Not to agree with Barnett, but saying "software...in and of itself has no value", relies on a contrived and extremely narrow definition of value, and is clearly highly debatable (cough cough *spurious crap*).
Long winded, but you posit an interesting parallel with prohibition.
ditto minecaft.
Or Pinguy OS.
Depends where you are. In many countries the likelihood of being arrested for carrying a gun is far higher than that of needing to defend yourself with a lethal weapon.
I know, crazy.
Well, the Unity interface is widely understood to be half-baked, rigid experience, that looks to have been rushed to market. If you want to take advantage of the large Ubuntu user-base, try something like Pinguy Linux or Linux Mint.
Interesting, are you arguing that many organisms are, in fact, eco-systems?
"So if humans and neanderthals could in fact interbreed, then wouldn't they be the same species? "
Capable of producing offspring is a condition of the category 'species'. This does not exclude the fact that different species can also interbreed.
"Were they any further apart than pygmys and tall white europeans?"
Classification of species is based on the study of lineages, not phenotypical differences, which are often quite superficial and controlled for by only subtle genetic differences.
"and probably be considered human"
I believe Neanderthals are considered a human species. When people say 'modern humans', they mean Homo Sapiens Sapiens, as opposed to now extinct non-modern humans.
Yeh, Victorian physical anthropology.
Just watch some trashy pop detective series or read a paper (a newspaper? anthropology paper? white supremacist propaganda?). Yeh right.
Three super races, of which everyone else is a variation of, right. Ever heard of clinal variation? Come back when your older.
You might find that there were already answers. Such as educational differences, cultural bias, diet/health and well being differences, etc.
This is a very interesting and novel (to me) line of reasoning. Thanks.
You probably mean Melanesians, who populated South East Asia and the South Pacific earliest. The ancestors of Hawaiians, etc, migrated over to SE Asia at a much later period and are descended from ancestors shared, more generically, with other Asian populations (and, as such, probably have evidence of the Neanderthal haplotype, that supposedly marks out all non-sub Saharan Africans).
If you think Hawaiian (or Fijian or Indonesian) look weird, its probably because you're a small minded fool, who, like all parochial racist half-wits, reads far to much significance into trivial and shallow phenotypical differences.
And, surprise surprise, like all of the racist posters to Slashdot, has neither the balls not to post as AC, as he knows his views are outmoded and is ashamed of himself/afraid of the reactions of others, nor does he have the force of mind to rationally address his own personal biases. In short he is a cowardly and weak-minded simpleton.
I read (a long time ago, look for your own sources), that a highly profitable overland oil pipeline could be run through Afghanistan, and this could be argued as being a strategic interest , motivating (partly) US invasion.
"16 percent of the prison population can be classified as severely mentally ill, meaning that they fit the psychiatric classification for illnesses such as schizophrenia, major depression, and bipolar disorder. According to staff at city and community jails, 25 percent of the jail population is severely mentally ill. However, when other mental illnesses, such as anti-social personality disorder, borderline personality disorder and depression, are included, the numbers are much higher, and NAMI puts the number of inmates suffering from both mental illness and substance abuse the percentage at well over 50 percent. "
From:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/asylums/etc/faqs.html#1
I see. I got from the brief article that Hurd will be ready for release along with Wheezy, not that it would be a Hurd based Wheezy. Though, it looks like you and the original poster are correct. Fair cop.
"HURD is just there for the everything-must-be-GNU crowd. It exists for political, not technical, reasons."
Seemingly you could make that argument. However, the purpose of the two example i gave was that they weren't Linux (or *nix) and offered interesting features based on different development paths, that may not have otherwise come to be. Such as the great RAM disk feature in AmigaOS, whereby you can install new programs to RAM, for testing purposes. Or the pervasive tabbing applications feature in Haiku.
Point being, there is always room at the party for people to come up with radically different OSs, and that there are certainly things to be gained from that. Besides, if people choose to dedicate their time to these projects, they obviously see value in them, even if that is just a focus on 'purity' (in this case), and who is anyone else to say these projects are worthless, especially in the case of Hurd, when we haven't see what it has to offer, in the long run.
So, i guess the thrust of your argument is, different tools for different jobs. That is a fair argument, one 'many-tentacled' program could get a little unwieldy.
By enhanced graphics capabilities, i pretty much meant features like, transparency, layering, a thorough tools palette, stretch and scale options, and whatnot. Which would save me porting portions of things in an out of different programs to get my desired result.
Drupal appears to pretty much be a wiki, no? At least it is a browser based interface. I was thinking more along the lines of a discrete app with 'live' options for group projects.
Cheers for the pointer. Trouble is Funny is all there was, and the joke was kind of funny, the FIRST time.
Cheers, Inkscape looks great. Though, (bangs the drum) some extended graphics capabilities in an office application would be cool, perhaps an office app with 'advanced' plugin support could offer many innovative features and allow devs and users all sorts of opportunities (including the desired).
However, i believe, network enabled, collaborative document editing would have much user interest (a la Google Docs), as evidenced by the popularity of wikis.
And, partly, i was just repulsed by the idea that the office suite paradigm was somehow finished and there could never be any room for innovation or improvement. And, so i just tried to think up a couple of possible arbitrary examples to the contrary.
If i write like a verbose corporate droid, it might be that i have been up all night (its 7:10 in the morning here), or simply that i am a pompous English man.
Peace.
How do you define portable?
That is, indeed, an arguable point. With regards to a computer, what we designate as portable has been constantly changing.
Is an SX-64 still portable?
We read it the first two times, thanks. No need to keep banging on, others clearly disagree, and think it is obvious.
No, please don't say it again.
Hi. I'm sorry but i didn't really get the gist of your post, as it applies to the issue i described. So, do you not experience any issues with Kupfer (i am using version 201) not registering newly saved Firefox bookmarks? Do newly bookmarked items appear, more or less, instantly in Kupfer for you?
Cheers.
Oh, i feel so ashamed now. You have made me feel so small.
So, your hung up on the terms i used (i try to write explicitly), but perhaps you could engage your faculties and try and see past them, to the concept i was trying to invoke. Currently GIMP handles text quite badly, beyond a very basic level, and i am often trying to make flyers, which are heavily text based, but also very graphics heavy. An office suite with some more capable graphics options would be sweet.
In fairness, on rereading that sentence, it could have done without the last bit.
But, you still bring nothing relevant to the debate.
Okay, i went there i read all the comments, they were mostly weak jokes, repeated over and over again, and i learned very little about the project. So, Stallman is easy to make jokes about and Hurd has been in development longer than anything, but really....
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The Mac heads can have