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Ask Slashdot: Good, Useful Free Software For Gifts?

First time accepted submitter Jeng writes "I'm planning on sending flash drives to friends and family as stocking stuffers. Rather than just send a blank drive, I'm looking for what good useful free software that I can load on it — from system utilities and encryption software to fun little games." We've asked similar questions before, but software keeps getting better, and so do the prices on flash drives. So what would you give as a gift this holiday season?

377 comments

  1. Bootable USB by Bertrand+Wilmot · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Bootable BSD or Linux on USB.

    1. Re:Bootable USB by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bootable BSD or Linux on USB.

      I'd suggest Ubuntu, with a "readme.txt" written for those who will plug it into their Windows box.

      Give them a text list of apt-get commands and tell them all the software was pirated :P

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    2. Re:Bootable USB by CmdrPony · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then they mess up their computer trying to install it, probably destroying all their personal files in the process. What a nice xmas gift. :P

    3. Re:Bootable USB by jmorris42 · · Score: 2, Informative

      > I'd suggest Ubuntu, with a "readme.txt" written for those who will plug it into their Windows box.

      And make sure you give them WUBI instead of expecting someone new to Free Software to be willing to figure out repartitioning. Sure it doesn't perform quite as well, but the benefits balance out for new users.

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    4. Re:Bootable USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Wubi is a great way to allow people to "jump right in" to the whole Linux/Free Software world with no messy installation phase.

    5. Re:Bootable USB by Bertrand+Wilmot · · Score: 1

      I think DSLinux would be more appropriate, especially if you're not sure how fast the computer you're plugging into might be. It's straightforward and comes with useful/practical applications.

    6. Re:Bootable USB by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, there's a great suggestion. Give them Ubuntu, so they can try out Unity, see what a piece of shit it is, and never look at Linux again.

    7. Re:Bootable USB by TheGoodNamesWereGone · · Score: 1

      Mod +1 Funny

    8. Re:Bootable USB by thehodapp · · Score: 1

      Better yet try a distro that's actually been updated in the last year. Like Puppy Linux or Slitaz.

    9. Re:Bootable USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You don't ask family to jump right in to linux. You tell your semi-geeky friend to try it out.

      You give family software that works on what they have and know. And you give them what makes sense for that person. Give the uncle that likes to make mediocre movies for youtube a copy of Lightworks for awesome video editing. Commercial software gone open source. Knocks the socks off of the windows home movie maker bullshit he currently uses.

      Paint.net for picture editing to your aunt that likes to touch up family photos, maybe.

      For the artsy teenager, Blender and Inkscape, if they're not already using them.

      For kids, find a good, bright, well-polished game.

      For gods sake, don't give anyone a browser or office suite. People hate software that takes over for something they already have. And stick to the well-finished, good looking stuff. The rest (*) just turns them off to the whole idea of anything "free", as if it's inferior.

      * gimp style stuff, powerful but ugly as shit with a [perverse | handicap | offensive] name

    10. Re:Bootable USB by justforgetme · · Score: 4, Funny

      In this context you might as well give them Chlamydia.
      You get to keep the usb also!

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    11. Re:Bootable USB by Oligonicella · · Score: 2

      Yes, yes. M$ ad hominem to truth from an AC mask, we know the OS modus.

      He's right, though. The worst presents (software or otherwise) are those that seek to impose your views on how things should be done on others.

      Second worst is a fruit cake.

    12. Re:Bootable USB by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      I'd suggest Ubuntu, with a "readme.txt" written for those who will plug it into their Windows box.

      Nah, a copy of The Bible in HTML would be far more welcome. There's a reason Christianity is more common than Ubuntu!

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    13. Re:Bootable USB by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      That will only be useful IF and this are pretty big IFs 1.- They even know what an alternative OS is and want to run one, and 2.- You have some way to test that Ubuntu will have ALL of the drivers for the myriad of hardware these people have so it all "just works" OOTB.

      Since he mentions things such as games it is most likely he is NOT talking about Linux users as they would just get such things from their repo so all they would do is stick in the disc and find a bunch of files they simply wouldn't know what to do with. oh and then you get the "fun" of explaining what a BIOS is, how to get into it, how to switch it from whatever the OEM had it to having a removable drive be first boot, calming them down when they think you are "gonna break it", wow,talk about the gift that keeps on giving!

      So let us assume the most likely scenario which is that these are Windows users who don't desire to learn how to switch operating systems for Xmas and think of some truly HELPFUL suggestions. Since I have actually made many a similar device in disc format I believe I can give some good ideas to get the ball rolling. you start with the always useful and free portable apps launcher that gives you a nice base to work off of and gives them a nice single .exe they can "clicky clicky". Then assuming they are happy with their AV and antimalware (which if not I'd put in the launcher for Avast Free and MalwareBytes under a heading of "antivirus") we move on to categories.

      First we have LibreOffice which frankly I wouldn't have, while its a nice suite I've found most never use more than Writer and it wastes space so I'd go with AbiWord. For Internet Firefox is too slow and Chrome calls home so I would use either Comodo Dragon which to make portable simply install onto a folder on the flash while checking the "portable' box or QT Web which is a nice portable browser based on QT naturally. Personally I'd give them both, they are light and why not give them choice? Thunderbird, don't bother as even those that think they are on email are actually on webmail nowadays so use that space for InstantBird instead. Oh and throw in a few graphics programs just for fun, like Fotografix and Cornice as they are light and pretty simple.

      Moving on to games we have Armagetron for a little Tron goodness, we have Atomic Tanks for a little Worms style fun, i know many will say Wesnoth but that game is a little hardcore if you're not already heavily into TBS so I'd skip it and if I were to put a strategy I'd go with Warzone 2100, Brutal Chess for a little 3D chess fun along with the always popular Texas Hold 'Em along with one of the several shooters and a nice Puzzle collection just to round things out.

      Because unless they actually WANT to learn alternative OSes, the inside of their BIOS, and a completely new way of doing everything then saying 'Just put linux on it" really isn't a very nice gift now is it? I hope everyone sees that this gives them a simple useful gift with tons of software they can use NOW without needing to spend an hour or more being walked through changing the BIOS, how to find out if hardware has been detected, what to do if the wireless isn't working, etc. That is about as "fun" a way to spend

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    14. Re:Bootable USB by sensei+moreh · · Score: 2

      I happen to like a good fruit cake

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    15. Re:Bootable USB by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 2

      For the artsy teen, promote Blender and MyPaint; needlessly inflicting vector graphics on people is criminal, and I use Inkscape about 8 hours a day at this point. My friends in the 3d biz don't have nice things to say about Blender, either, but they also complain about Maya. If/when the Doom3 engine goes open source, you might promote that instead; it has some name recognition, and gives the budding modeler something to do.

      MyPaint, for those who haven't used it, is a painting program most similar (but superior) to OpenCanvas, which hasn't had an open source release for years. MyPaint runs on all major OSs.

      I understand the thing about GIMP, but home users are less likely to care -- my mother has been known to use it.

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    16. Re:Bootable USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why, so they will actually read it and see how idiotic it is?

    17. Re:Bootable USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put the darnest ugliest virus you can get, so thet learn the value of free os'

    18. Re:Bootable USB by BasilBrush · · Score: 2

      Your post reveals in inconvenient truth.

      Lightworks was developed as commercial software. Now trying a new free version + subscription pro version model.

      Blender was developed as commercial software. After bankruptcy a charitable appeal bought it for the open source community.

      Paint.net was developed by a Microsoft intern. It's a free download but not open source.

      Out of the four, only Inkscape was developed from the start by the FOSS community.

    19. Re:Bootable USB by Pf0tzenpfritz · · Score: 1

      Nah, a copy of The Bible in HTML would be far more welcome. There's a reason Christianity is more common than Ubuntu!

      You mean we sould force our children into open source instead of painfully converting grown ups? That's not a bad concept at all. I just feel incomfortable about the idea of RMS declaring himself Linux Pope...

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    20. Re:Bootable USB by stating_the_obvious · · Score: 2

      I have no desire to start a fight over FOSS ends versus means, but is it fair to say that for most non-technical users, the thing that matters most is the 'F' in FOSS?

      Also, while the Blender story is interesting, why does that matter from a FOSS perspective? Don't deathbed converts get admitted to Heaven?

    21. Re:Bootable USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Lightworks is open source. It's not meant to be free + subscription... stop with the FUD.

      Nobody cares that Blender was originally commercial software. It's now a beautiful, relatively easy to use, capable, open source app.

      You're right about Paint.net, as someone else already pointed out. And as they suggested, maybe MyPaint instead.

      So of the four, three were good recommendations... and you're a troll.

    22. Re:Bootable USB by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Lightworks is open source. It's not meant to be free + subscription... stop with the FUD.

      No it's not open source as yet. There's a promise that it will be and as far as I can see, no promise as to what licence it'll be under when it is. But the subscription model for the pro version is certainly there. £40 per year. Look at the website:
      http://www.lightworksbeta.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=122&Itemid=263

      You're a typical know nothing AC. Crying FUD when you read a truth you wish wasn't so. This is why I generally have you idiots filtered out.

    23. Re:Bootable USB by BasilBrush · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The inconvenient truth is that the FOSS movement doesn't develop good applications. There's an old saying that a camel is a horse designed by committee. And there seems to be something of that in software development. A good app with a good UI requires a visionary designer. And open source projects don't tend to have that, or don't give the authority to that one person to make the decisions.

      There's perhaps an exception when there's a single developer who is also a good designer, who starts a project and progresses it singlehandedly to a viable level. But developers who are also good designers are as rare as hens teeth.

      Note that the one exception, Inkscape, had such a singular person at it's beginnings (as "Gill") - Raph Levien.

      Most FOSS proponents on Slashdot are leeches. They love OSS because it gives them software for nothing. Few of them have ever contributed anything. Far fewer still are those rare individuals that are actually capable of creating good software, and willing to do it for no salary. Maybe a handful out of the millions with Slashdot accounts.

      Look at the holy war over Ubuntu - most value the old KDE UI - a Windows rip-off. The new Unity UI us an OSX copy and most users don't like it. After 20 years there's still no good original Linux UI. If the OS UI isn't even good, what chance the apps will be good?

    24. Re:Bootable USB by certain+death · · Score: 1

      Good being the operative word there - I like a good one as well, but it takes trying about 50 of them to find that one good one.

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    25. Re:Bootable USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Current versions of Blender actually have a much better interface that the old nightmare it used to have.

    26. Re:Bootable USB by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

      Not if you boot and run from the usb stick (no install) then all you have to do is press f12 or whatever on startup and choose usb. I think mint is easier than ubuntu, but set it up with 4gb of persistent memory so they can install games and what not (from a pretty big easy to use selection in the software manager (all point and click)) . If you are really worried about their tech skills give them the linux mint version with virtual box installed as well, then all they have to do is double click from windows or osx and they can have a virtual linux machine.

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    27. Re:Bootable USB by tjhart85 · · Score: 1

      There is also a reason the sky is blue, what the fuck does that have to do with this discussion?

    28. Re:Bootable USB by wertigon · · Score: 1

      The FOSS movement can develop good applications and software; Gnome has quite a few good apps for example. The problem is that it most often takes a professional software company to step in and push the direction in a certain way.

      However, that's fine; FOSS movement isn't just about the home hackers, it's an entire ecosystem consisting of companies AND enthusiasts. It's easy to focus on just the "community" part, but companies are part of that community, and they do quite a bit of contribution. :)

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    29. Re:Bootable USB by pugugly · · Score: 1

      What's the point of having a "ACs don't bother . . ." tagline, then responding to one?

      I have nothing against AC's myself, but if I was going to be that kind of asshole (as opposed to my own, completely different kind of asshole) I'd at least be consistent about it - {G}.

      Pug

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    30. Re:Bootable USB by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      My settings are such that unless an AC scores a 4 or 5, which is a rare occurrence, I don't get a notification that anyone has responded. In the thread itself I get a "reply beneath your current threshold" message, so if I'm reading a logged-in-users reply, I sometimes see that. And sometimes I expand it and read it. And usually realise I've wasted my time.

      My sig is fair warning that I probably won't see a response from an AC. And it's an encouragement to such people to grow a pair of balls and post under a username rather then as a coward.

    31. Re:Bootable USB by pugugly · · Score: 1

      Eh - fair 'nuff I suppose - {G}.

      Pug

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    32. Re:Bootable USB by Bertrand+Wilmot · · Score: 0

      "They even know what an alternative OS is and want to run one..." They don't need to know or want an alternative, you still can provide the technical benefits (well, firstly, its free). You could also buy a Windows OS, but I don't see why you would, as I must go back to my original point, I've switched a high school lab (about 30 computers) from Windows XP to Debian, with a Windows XP theme/appearance tweaks (renaming icons, stupid stuff like that). It's been going smoothly for 3 years now. I've saved them money on practically all malware removal in the future, plus free upgrades, as well as me benefiting from using systems I *want* to administrate. It's an all around win-win. Anwho, I digress. "You have some way to test that Ubuntu will have ALL of the drivers for the myriad of hardware these people have so it all "just works" OOTB." It's worked on every public computer I've come across. "Oh and then you get the "fun" of explaining what a BIOS is, how to get into it..." Nah, sillbo baggins, there's no need to explain CMOS configuration, just explaining that you need to watch for a "boot menu" key that is listed on startup, usually a function key. Then, select which device you want to boot from. My 10 year old brother understands this process. "Moving on to games..." Exactly, why not a bootable Linux MAME stick? AbiWord is nice, minimal dependencies in FBSD ports.

  2. MS Office 2010 Home edition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    *ducks*

    1. Re:MS Office 2010 Home edition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      oops I missed the "free" part in the title, I just read it as "useful software for gift"

      Hmm, it seems that if the recipient knows that the gift can be obtained for free with a two minute download, doesn't that automatically make it a suspect present, no matter how good or useful the software is? What a cheapskate! Seems like both giver and receiver should be looking for something where the going rate is at least 25 bucks, more if you can afford it.

      -op

    2. Re:MS Office 2010 Home edition by tycoex · · Score: 2

      You're missing the point, the flash drive is the gift. The pre-loaded software is just a bonus.

    3. Re:MS Office 2010 Home edition by FrootLoops · · Score: 1

      I believe you mean MS Office 2010 Home Trial. You know, 'cuz it's free.

    4. Re:MS Office 2010 Home edition by hedwards · · Score: 1

      And really free is still too expensive. Considering how much time I spend showing people how to use the broken interface they ought to be paying me to work around their poorly thought out ribbon crap.

  3. Let's see: by DangerOnTheRanger · · Score: 5, Informative
    Gaming:
    • SuperTuxKart
    • SuperTux (SVN trunk)
    • Warsow
    • Warzone 2100, maybe
    • Secret Maryo Chronicles

    Graphics:

    • Inkscape
    • GIMP

    Other stuff:

    • Python (2.6 or 2.7)
    • Transmission (the Bittorrent client)
    • Filezilla
    • Firefox or Chromium, if they don't use either already
    1. Re:Let's see: by Hotweed+Music · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Sorry, but that sounds like a really lame gift.

    2. Re:Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Seriously lame gift.

      Who would be running Linux and wouldn't have Python installed, or a browser of their choice? Who would want rubbish opensource games they could download?

      What is wrong with you guys.

    3. Re:Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Battle for Wesnoth
      Tyrian 2000
      Collection of ebooks via Project Gutenberg

      That would keep someone out of trouble for a good while.

    4. Re:Let's see: by Threni · · Score: 1

      I'm assuming all that's to go with a bootable Ubuntu (with no swap drive)? You can get a 16gig usb drive for around £14.

    5. Re:Let's see: by wisnoskij · · Score: 4

      Transmission is one of the worse bittorrent client available. Might as well just have them use a command line utility with the gui available in Transmission.
      Never been a fan of gimp either, it it both too complicated and bloated for a simple paint replacement and does not have enough features to replace Photoshop.
      For torrents you need uTorrent or its far crappier linux brother ktorrent.
      and then for windows at least:
      rename master
      7-zip
      agent ransack
      chrome
      Infra Recorder
      Notepad++

      And then for games I would recommend emulators and roms.
      Dosbox, scummvm, Snex9x
      And you could probably set up all of them to work directly from the drive (linux and windows both, since the emulators are all pretty small) with the games pre-installed.

      I would recommend focusing on the games and picking something personally from you and not just 10,000 roms you found in a torrent.
      Because for the apps at least either the receiver is technically savvy enough they he should already be able to find good software if he needs it or will not appreciated being able to search faster and better (agent ransack).

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    6. Re:Let's see: by PerlJedi · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'd add a few suggestions:

    7. Re:Let's see: by CmdrPony · · Score: 2

      So, you're telling him to him warez as a gift? I thought the point of giving open source was so it's legal.

    8. Re:Let's see: by wisnoskij · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Roms don't have to be illegal, you just have a smaller number to choose from if you are looking for freeware roms.
      But it is not like everyone does not already pirate roms, lets face it the consoles and the original games are no longer produced if you wanted to pay money for them you would only be paying some used games store owner not anyone involved in making the game in the first place anyways.
      Now you can make a very good argument that the developers of the game deserve your money, but I have yet to hear one for the owner of the used store.

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    9. Re:Let's see: by DangerOnTheRanger · · Score: 2

      Ooh, I forgot about VLC. Good thinking.

    10. Re:Let's see: by DangerOnTheRanger · · Score: 1

      That's certainly possible, but all the programs I listed work on Windows as well, so it's not strictly necessary.

    11. Re:Let's see: by DangerOnTheRanger · · Score: 2

      Who cares if everyone already pirates ROMs? That doesn't make it legal. Freeware ROMs are legal of course, but most of the titles the recipients of this gift have heard of don't fall into this category.

    12. Re:Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Transmission works perfectly fine.
      ktorrent has nothing to do with utorrent, though I don't use ktorrent on kde (can't remember exactly why), I use transmission for QT.

    13. Re:Let's see: by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      Well I would imagine that picking games that recipients have not heard of might be a perk.
      And in Alabama dominoes may not be played on Sunday by rule of law, but like abandon-ware that law is not and cannot be enforced therefore it is not really illegal. Note: obviously some companies are still around that hold the copyright to some of these abandon-ware games, so while no one has ever been prosecuted for abandoner-ware stealing it is theoretically possible.

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    14. Re:Let's see: by hedwards · · Score: 1

      I personally dump my own ROMs with retrode.org . Tends to work well and I don't have to worry about being busted for piracy.

    15. Re:Let's see: by Foo2rama · · Score: 1

      VLC for sure

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    16. Re:Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If VLC automatically took file associations on installation, yeah, I could see giving it to someone. As it doesn't, "giving" it to someone involves installing it yourself on their computer, because managing file associations is above your average non-technical user.

    17. Re:Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Fuck no, VLC is awful. Its as buggy as shit and has support for important things (like 10bit) missing. You are better off giving them CCCP which they can use with their existing media player.

    18. Re:Let's see: by DreadPiratePizz · · Score: 2

      There are several games available legally for ScummVM, which he suggested. Beneath a Steel Sky and Flight of the Amazon Queen for example, were both released as freeware by their authors and can be downloaded right from the ScummVM homepage.

    19. Re:Let's see: by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      My short list includes: Firefox, Open Office, GIMP and VLC. If they might write software, add Qt Creator (or MIT Scratch if they're under 14 years old).

    20. Re:Let's see: by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      I'd love to love XBMC, but it just doesn't do it for me. Somehow, other solutions (like VLC) always seem more practical in real use.

    21. Re:Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, this guy's grandma wants to play Battle for Wesnoth. Ass.

    22. Re:Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a gift that keeps on giving, as the family support calls start pouring in.

      If the recipients were at a level where they could use or install half this shit they wouldn't need you giving it to them.

    23. Re:Let's see: by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      But it is not like everyone does not already pirate roms, lets face it the consoles and the original games are no longer produced if you wanted to pay money for them you would only be paying some used games store owner not anyone involved in making the game in the first place anyways.

      Yea, its not as if Nintendo still releases Super Mario RPG or Street Fighter 2 or Mario Brothers or anything....

      All that aside, illegal is still illegal, and "not what OP asked for" is still offtopic.

    24. Re:Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately VLMC is still in Alpha. VirtualDub for Windows and Cinelerra for Linux are free Video Editors you might add. Audacity is a pretty cool sound editor. For your Gift for Windows Users you might want to take a look at Portable Apps.

    25. Re:Let's see: by dadioflex · · Score: 1

      Can I add Sauerbraten ( http://sauerbraten.org/ ) to that list for games. Also, as Optimism mentions lower down, the DRM-free games from Indie Royale, Humble Bundle and GOG can be bought for cheap. In the case of the Humble Bundle games, for ridiculously cheap.

    26. Re:Let's see: by bipbop · · Score: 2

      Speaking of commercial games now available for free, Ur-Quan Masters is a classic, and happens to be open source now as well. (For those who aren't familiar with the new title, UQM is Star Control 2.)

    27. Re:Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who cares if everyone already pirates ROMs? That doesn't make it legal. Freeware ROMs are legal of course, but most of the titles the recipients of this gift have heard of don't fall into this category.

      I'm assuming you're stating this as a law abiding citizen which has never done anything illegal to the letter of the law in your entire life? That must be a boring existence..

    28. Re:Let's see: by BenoitRen · · Score: 1

      Now you can make a very good argument that the developers of the game deserve your money, but I have yet to hear one for the owner of the used store.

      The used store is a convenient place where people can sell their games so they can buy other, possibly new ones.

    29. Re:Let's see: by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      The op said nothing about preferring illegal or legal software only that it should be free.

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    30. Re:Let's see: by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      It being illegal to take something (whether it be theft, piracy, or infringement) makes it by definition not free, either as in beer OR as in speech.

    31. Re:Let's see: by Excelcia · · Score: 1

      qBitTorrent is a fantastic open source alternative to uTorrent.

    32. Re:Let's see: by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      that looks decent, thanks for the tip. I will have to give this a try.

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    33. Re:Let's see: by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      I don't know what definition you are using, but in my books if you can get something without paying anything in return and absolutely no restrictions are placed on how you use that product then it is free in my books.

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    34. Re:Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Not a fan of Gimp either..."

      Yeah, and it makes a terrible wordprocessor and doesn't do partitioning well, and is just lousy at playing mp3 files.

      Or maybe the gap between Photoshop and Paint-replacement is large enough for a program to fit in-between them...

    35. Re:Let's see: by tepples · · Score: 1

      I thought Retrode didn't support all platforms (most notably, not NES).

    36. Re:Let's see: by tepples · · Score: 1

      There are plenty of NES games that have been released under a free software license: LAN Master, Escape from Pong, Thwaite, Lawn Mower, LJ65... What's so illegal about running those in FCEUX?

    37. Re:Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firefox will be out of date by the time anyone opens their gift.

    38. Re:Let's see: by DangerOnTheRanger · · Score: 1

      Well, those illegal arcade ROMs are "free" in the sense that you don't have to pay for them, but since they are still under copyright by their creators, who have deemed redistribution of those ROMs illegal, they are not "free" as in speech. Not to mention you're ignoring the fact that those ROMs are illegal, which is a far larger issue...

    39. Re:Let's see: by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      So by your definition, the fact that it is physically possible to shoplift milk means that milk is free; so if someone asks you where they can get a free drink, it would be a reasonable response to say "well, the store has milk you can steal".

      Am I getting that right?

    40. Re:Let's see: by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      It is not a far larger issue if it is offtopic.
      And illegal is not everything, for example it is illegal to play Dominoes on Sunday.in Alabama.

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    41. Re:Let's see: by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      No, free doe not just have to mean money.
      if it is physically harder then simply picking up the drink then it is not free and if there is any chance of getting charged for a criminal offence then it is not free.

      But if for example you lived in a city that had a law that water fountains could not be used by African Americans on a Sunday (I would not be surprised if this actually existed somewhere), but this law was no longer enforced I would direct all African Americans who asked on a Sunday to the nearest water fountain.

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    42. Re:Let's see: by chrismcb · · Score: 1

      There are plenty of used cars that are no longer produced. So yeah go ahead and drive them off the used car lot, cause I have yet to hear a good argument why the owner of the used car lot deserves your money.

    43. Re:Let's see: by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      A far more accurate analogy would be "go ahead and manufacture your own old no longer supported model of car instead of buying used."

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    44. Re:Let's see: by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      Transmission is one of the worse [sic]bittorrent client available. Might as well just have them use a command line utility with the gui available in Transmission.[...]For torrents you need uTorrent or its far crappier linux brother ktorrent.

      I tried the new uTorrent port briefly, hated it. Transmission generally does the job for me, the brief 2.41 crashing issues notwithstanding.

    45. Re:Let's see: by velja27 · · Score: 1

      For torrents use Deluge, it might take up a little bit more RAM or not, I don't really know cause I have on average around 75-90 torrents in it.
      It has all the features you need, you can browse through the files which are nicely put in folders, as you would expect (unlike on uTorrent), and all the other stuff.
      Some time ago it even got a webui. So yeah try it, I've been enjoying it ever since I started using Linux.

    46. Re:Let's see: by Gravitron+5000 · · Score: 1
    47. Re:Let's see: by admica · · Score: 1

      I use Photoshop and GIMP, and I prefer the gimp. To each his own, but I find it has all the same features that I use in photoshop. I'm not sure why anyone would refer to either one of those as a paint replacement. mtpaint would be more along those lines.

    48. Re:Let's see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Deluge for torrents on Linux.
      FileBot is a good cross-platform renamer for shows, etc.

  4. It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you're arrogant enough to think that you're doing something for OTHERS by giving them things that represent your passion and "religious" devotion to open source, you're not likely to understand why, but this is a terrible idea. Give other people what THEY want, not what YOU think would be cool. This is an absurd idea.

    1. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by xs650 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yup, I was thinking it was like giving someone a free Gideon's bible out of a hotel room.

    2. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by jmorris42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      > Give other people what THEY want, not what YOU think would be cool.

      Oh bullpoop. The guy is giving out USB sticks. Very handy things for almost anyone to get in their stocking. He just wants to prepopulate em with some helpful stuff. Something you can't do with closed software but you can easily do with Free Software.

      And yes, plenty of people give gifts based on their particular passion. Apple folk will tend to give out iProducts. Would they give one to somebody they KNOW isn't going to use it? Hopefully not, but a lot of people on their list would so they do. What is the difference?

      Stick OO.o on there of course. And Firefox, Chrome, etc. And why not Gimp, Blender, and friends. All run Windows, why not spread em around. Will everyone use them? Probably not, but a few might and those that don't can just hit delete.

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    3. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. If the guy was giving away copies of MS Office or Windows 7 or (insert popular game here), these people wouldn't be calling it "religious", but since it's OSS somehow it's different.

    4. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by optimism · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > Give other people what THEY want, not what YOU think would be cool.

      Oh bullpoop. The guy is giving out USB sticks. Very handy things for almost anyone to get in their stocking. He just wants to prepopulate em with some helpful stuff.

      Yep.

      And...these views are compatible. You can think about what different people might want, and put that on their key.

      Me, I would start by putting relevant family & friend photos/videos on everyone's USB stick. Even better, I'd make the effort to organize them into slideshow/video presentations, with a soundtrack and transitions. And configure them up to auto-play on the machines of the less-clueful recipients who have not disabled auto-play. :)

      Mom will like that for sure. Then maybe Dad would appreciate some good apps/installers (Firefox, VLC, Abiword, etc)...and Bro would appreciate a collection of freeware/shareware/abandonware games (thinking Humble Bundle, other indies, MAME, etc)...and Sis would appreciate a few favorite DVDs, ripped and transcoded to copy straight to her iPad (gifting the DVDs as well, but doing the work for her).

      Frankly it sounds like a great idea, if you think about what your family/friends would appreciate besides just another USB stick.

    5. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by hedwards · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, since it's free software with an ulterior motive. It's one thing to pay for the software and give it away, but giving away free software to promote an ideology is something different.

    6. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2

      Give other people what THEY want, not what YOU think would be cool. This is an absurd idea.

      Baloney. You might as well just give gift cards or cash with that attitude.

      A gift is an opportunity to share what you think is cool with someone else on the chance that they will think it's cool too. Maybe they won't think it's cool, but that's no skin off their nose, it was free anyway...

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    7. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about your manifesto? and some mugshots of yourself?

    8. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Something you can't do with closed software

      Closed software doesn't mean you can't distribute freely.

    9. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stick the bible on there, or the koran, or the bagavad gita. I'm sure some people would find that useful to, but most people would see it as trying to push an agenda. To religious? How about if you gave people books on eating raw food?

      Look, if you're going to give someone something make it something THEY like. Most people like games or movies. Trying to find something each person likes and personalising it is a hell of a lot better than just throwing out some generic pieces of software. For gods sake, someone actually suggested 7-zip! That's about as exciting a gift as someone giving you spinach.

    10. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where's your evidence for the ulterior motive? He doesn't specify why he wants free software; it's just as likely that he wants it because he wants a no-cost add-on for the present as the evangelical motive you ascribe to him.

    11. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Exactly. If the guy was giving away copies of MS Office or Windows 7 or (insert popular game here), these people wouldn't be calling it "religious", but since it's OSS somehow it's different.

      Well, there is the small difference that giving away Office or Windows 7 or a popular commercial game actually is a gift since he had to part with money to get them. At the moment, I'd be thrilled to find a Windows 7 Professional disc under the tree since I want to upgrade out of XP, and lots of people are going to be getting Skyrim for Christmas

      Open Source software is free, and most people don't care about OSS politics. If someone cared about this sort of stuff they'd undoubtedly already be technically savvy enough to go online and get it themselves. Except for the USB drives this isn't much of a gift, and hey, I saw a deal on newegg last night for 8 GB ones for under $8 -- free shipping. Pretty cheap gift if he's not giving them 16 or 32 GB ones, and most people don't need that much space at once for day-to-day usage.

    12. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stocking stuffers are cheap small gifts that are a small token of appreciation. In my family I'd get a toothbrush in my stocking, this only improves upon a great gift. USB Drives are great to have around and you can never have enough of them and considering Jeng is giving them to his family the cheaper the better.

    13. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by fa2k · · Score: 1

      And yes, plenty of people give gifts based on their particular passion. Apple folk will tend to give out iProducts.

      Exactly. I give away electronics and gadgets all the time, I hope I'm not a bad person. I subscribe to the idea that I know a lot about some of those things, so I can find something that's useful for the person getting the present.

    14. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by tbird81 · · Score: 1

      Oh bullpoop.

      There now, there's no need for profanity, Fallout Boy.

    15. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Well, the USB sticks are intended as stocking stuffers, i.e. small things that you give along with the main presents. When I add a bar of good chocolate to a christmas present I don't try to wow the recipient by the fact that I could spend five whole bucks on a bar of chocolate; I just try to make a nice gift a little bit nicer.

      Likewise, the software is basically a stocking stuffer for a stocking stuffer. A few freeware games or tools aren't going to make someone break out in tears of gratitude but they might be nice, nonetheless. If the recipient doesn't want them they can just delete them to reclaim the space and it's possible that they do like them but have never heard about them before.

      For instance, I know a lot of people who have no idea that something like du or its graphical counterparts exist; while some free disk usage analyzer isn't going to be the software they've been spending their whole life preparing for it might be found useful. I think the proper response to aim for is not "best gift ever" but rather "hey, that's nifty".

      Admittedly, Skyrim or Windows 7 would be nicer stocking stuffers but most people aren't quite wealthy enough to use them in that role.

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    16. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and Bro would appreciate a collection of freeware/shareware/abandonware games (thinking Humble Bundle, other indies, MAME, etc)

      the humble bundle games are neither free nor abandonware (some have demos that count as shareware though). you are essentially suggesting that pirating games is ok as long as the games are from small independent developers who care enough about their customers to not have some ridiculous DRM in their games.

      i think it is very sad to have such an attitude.

    17. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      except... it would be quite difficult to delete all the text from every page and re-use it as a notebook

    18. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Anybody that claims to be doing something without an ulterior motive is either a liar or a fool.

    19. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He just wants to prepopulate em with some helpful stuff. Something you can't do with closed software but you can easily do with Free Software.

      A typical bullshit lie from a long time OpenSores FOSStard like yourself, Jmorris. There is a metric fuckton of free (as in no cost and free to distribute) software that is closed source but still very useful. Any user who can't seek out and install the software they want on their own sure as hell aren't going to be able to modify any source code or compile anything. Pull your head out of your ass.

    20. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

      I agree, what a horseshit idea. "Here is a USB stick with some free software! Merry fucking Christmas!"
      OK, I guess you have some tech friends and/or family. It's still a bullshit idea. I can only imagine when my family unwraps their presents and they all got USB sticks. Why not just give them all pretzels? Ever fucking think of what they might want besides your non-thinking present? I'm a freaking nerd and if someone gave my a USB stick (with or without free software), I'd be pissed; anyone that uses one already has 2-5 of them.

      Drawing a card with crayons has more personalization than this.

      What's your idea for a birthday present, tickets to E3?

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    21. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why I don't read Slashdot any more. The guy asked the OS community for help/opinions with an idea he had for a gift and you cut him down. I'm glad I'm not you. Go find somewhere else to hang out where your contributions are more welcome.

    22. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ulterior Motive?, What are you suggesting his ulterior motive is? He paid with his time by compiling the list of software, downloading the software if he didn't already have it, and then putting the software on the stick, all of which is a very personal touch. Simply buying something off the shelf and giving it to someone could be considered impersonal, capitalistic, and insensitive, depending on your point of view. I think he has a great idea and like one poster said, if the person receiving the gift doesn't like the software on the stick they simply delete the software and keep their shiny new USB Stick.

    23. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by llamapater · · Score: 1

      He didn't give them this software on a cd for fuck sake he just wanted something to pop on a stick to add thought to the gift he could've given something like pictures, yes, but who wants another copy of grammas photo album of dead people, pay software kinda takes it out of the stocking stuffer realm too. There isn't any Foss religious hoopla for these people if they can't appreciate a usb stick then they're not technical enough to even realize that's what happened. The niece and apparently a few of the adults were in that category they should have gotten candy bars (or if i was called a nerdy ass-fagot over a gift nothing) the ones who wiped the disks gave there answer to the included software that's fine, but at least liked the stick.

    24. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, there is the small difference that giving away Office or Windows 7 or a popular commercial game actually is a gift since he had to part with money to get them.

      Jeee-zus! Is that what Christmas is about??

      Believe it or not, I've given out presents I've made by hand and which hardly cost me a dime.

      And if you want to get specific, how much money have I spent buying things for myself last month? Has it been as much as $500? I doubt it. I still could use some new bath towels, and those glasses that got broken could use replacing. Why should I drop $500 this month buying random gifts for people I see but once or twice a year, if it means another month of hardship for myself?

    25. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have an Uncle who often does things like this....Giving flash drives full of utilities to my wife who isn't much into tech, giving my Mom a AAA/AA Battery tester, giving other members of the family similar gifts. The rest of the family is of course, very gracious about accepting the present but while they say thank you their facial expressions read "WTF??!?!?!"

      I imagine the OP is looking at cool gifts for little money, but I suggest that maybe he should look elsewhere.

    26. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It takes one to know one.

    27. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right. Let's save Ballmer's BONUSES:

      This guy should definitely buy Windows + Office + Visual Studio + SQL Server + Exchange.
      For all the disks.

    28. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by HerrWolfe · · Score: 1

      I agree, what a horseshit idea. "Here is a USB stick with some free software! Merry fucking Christmas!" OK, I guess you have some tech friends and/or family. It's still a bullshit idea. I can only imagine when my family unwraps their presents and they all got USB sticks. Why not just give them all pretzels? Ever fucking think of what they might want besides your non-thinking present? I'm a freaking nerd and if someone gave my a USB stick (with or without free software), I'd be pissed; anyone that uses one already has 2-5 of them.

      Drawing a card with crayons has more personalization than this.

      What's your idea for a birthday present, tickets to E3?

      He said they were stocking stuffers. There is no need for this ignorant post. In the future, why don't you actually read the question before you respond, you fool.

    29. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, there really is a difference here. Most people that aren't computer knowledgable like the majority of us are not even don't understand what open source is, but are usually unaware of all the things available out there that is actually free. Instead, these people end up going into a best buy or office max somewhere and walk through the software isle looking for some cheap software that they hope will fit their needs and end up paying between ten and eighty bucks for software that they could otherwise get for nothing. I think it's a great idea to buy a bunch of 2GB or 4GB USB sticks and load them up with a variety of (well known/used/and even supported) open source software as long as they also put a README text file in the root directory of the USB stick stating what each set of software is, what it does, where it came from, and maybe even a list of the closed source/expensive alternatives that this open source and/or freeware version is replacing and why. As long as little effort is put forth when putting these things together to let people know what they're really getting and how it is (potentially) saving them a lot of money, then I think it would be a well accepted and respected gift.

    30. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by nbauman · · Score: 1

      How could Christmas be complete without cranky old uncle Anonymous Coward?

    31. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by bryan1945 · · Score: 0

      I did read that. And it is still stupid, you arrogant ass.

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    32. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by admica · · Score: 1

      Something's wrong when the quality of a gift is dependent on the amount of money a gift costs rather than the thoughtfulness and time spent preparing the gift.

    33. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Well, that's the level the rest of the thread operates on. I do agree that an expensive gift is not neccessarily a good one - but usually a game or an operating system are only given when appropriate and are almost automatically a better gift than a USB stick with a few apps on it.

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    34. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by HerrWolfe · · Score: 1

      I'm arrogant? Your post says specifically, 'I can only imagine when my family unwraps their presents and they all got USB sticks' (nice grammar by the way). He said they were stocking stuffers. Unless you are unfamiliar with the phrase, there is no excuse for your ridiculous post. And with Google around, there is no excuse for this ignorance other than laziness. It's called 'Ask Slashdot.' Try to answer the question rather than insulting the asker. If you cannot do this then keep your mouth shut. You have nothing to contribute to the conversation and all you managed to do was waste mine and others time by having to read your nonsense. Put your GED to work and try to comprehend what you've read and respond in a helpful manner. Furthermore if you did in fact read it, you chose to ignore it. And yet I'm the arrogant one. So I restate, you are a fool. Do the world a favour and do not breed, troll. PS. to a true nerd, tickets to E3 are an awesome present.

    35. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

      Fine, you win. I (with my 3 degrees, oops) will leave you alone now.

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    36. Re:It's a ridiculous idea by HerrWolfe · · Score: 1

      Why, thank you for taking a mature route.

  5. lots of options by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 4, Informative

    well you can use a bootable USB of course, or you could use virtualization-on-a-stick, using qemu or portable virtual-box

    http://www.pendrivelinux.com/using-a-portable-virtualbox-to-run-linux-from-usb/

    http://www.pendrivelinux.com/run-a-live-linux-cd-from-within-windows/

    or you could use portable app's projects off of sourceforge.

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  6. Tons of free games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Works off a CD, DVD or USB flash drive. live.linuX-gamers.net

  7. other bits to consider besides software by Tumbleweed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about a big collection of free music/ebooks/movies/art, etc? Maybe consider putting together a digital slideshow of photos and movies of family and friends, too.

    1. Re:other bits to consider besides software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      How about a big collection of free music/ebooks/movies/art, etc?

      Some hints:
      * http://magnatune.com
      * http://dig.ccmixter.org/
      * http://archive.org/

    2. Re:other bits to consider besides software by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How about a big collection of free music/ebooks/movies/art, etc? Maybe consider putting together a digital slideshow of photos and movies of family and friends, too.

      I think you're by far the most insightful in the discussion so far. I have to think that generally speaking, software that is useful (to the recipient) and free (available to the recipient already) is likely to be owned by the recipient. Sending people Firefox or Foxit Reader or 7Zip is pointless because either the don't have any clue how to or why to use it, or they already do. Yes, a generalization, but I suspect that loading up a bunch of software is just going to waste the recipient's time, forcing them to delete it all. On the other hand, MEDIA might be cool. And the time spent checking out Creative Commons (and other sources of) music and so on rewards the sender too. Everyone wins.

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    3. Re:other bits to consider besides software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think alot of people can enjoy these, which i believe are under creative commons licence:

      Sita sings the blues (The person who made this is amazing)

      and

      Yes Men Save the World (All slashdotters have already seen this of course)

    4. Re:other bits to consider besides software by Telvin_3d · · Score: 2

      Do one better than this. You have a month. Go and borrow old photo albums from people and start scanning. You family will thrill over old wedding and vacation photos with embarrassing haircuts and awful fashions that they had forgotten.

      See how many pictures of their parents as kids you can find for your nieces and nephews. Bonus points if they are wearing clothes or fashions that are completely different from their current personalities (Hey dad was completely metal!) with double bonus points if it highlights parental hypocrisy in a funny way (Mom, that skirt is way shorter than the one you won't let me wear...)

    5. Re:other bits to consider besides software by Joshua+Fan · · Score: 1

      Yes. In fact, giving free software implies that you think they don't know how to use computers, and that you're a cheapo to boot. People like to load what software they please on their computers, regardless if they had to pay for it or not, what's important to them is that they chose to do it. Big computer companies and lots of geeks just never get that.

    6. Re:other bits to consider besides software by gknoy · · Score: 2

      I can't believe you left off Project Gutenberg, as they even let you download ISO images of their collection.

      http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:The_CD_and_DVD_Project

    7. Re:other bits to consider besides software by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      Excellent idea. I'd also suggest some "classic" pictures in the rare, but important, case that the recipient happens to be an aspiring slashdot troll and history buff. Make sure the titles are misleading and the icon preview settings are turned off, as being helpful is always appreciated.

    8. Re:other bits to consider besides software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      (Mom, that skirt is way shorter than the one you won't let me wear...)

      This is especially effective if you are her son

    9. Re:other bits to consider besides software by eulernet · · Score: 1

      Speaking of art, I recommend that you download and unzip the best demos for PC on the USB key.
      You can download them here:
      http://www.pouet.net/

      Explain them what a demo is:
      1) a very small program (much smaller than a Youtube video)
      2) a spectacle
      3) a form of art
      4) mathematics applied in realtime

      Some people may feel so amazed by these technical pieces, that they'll learn how to program.

    10. Re:other bits to consider besides software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm in agreement with that, however, I would also include on it one link -- http://ninite.com/ -- and let them decide what software they want to install. Then, not only can they install it themselves, but they can also update it at their leisure, unlikely though that may be.

    11. Re:other bits to consider besides software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be sure to throw in a goatse in true slashdot fashion

  8. PortableApps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If they are using Windows, I suggest the full collection of PortableApps from http://www.portableapps.com
    It will runs directly from your flash drive and is really useful! :-)

    1. Re:PortableApps by KaoticEvil · · Score: 1

      That is exactly what I was going to suggest. Being that it's a Windows based program, it works natively, and has a nice little icon in the systray area, encouraging people to actually USE the programs on there. Not to mention, because, as you stated, it runs from the flash drive, everything the save (emails, Firefox profiles, etc.) is secure in case of system failure or a general Windows fuckup.

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    2. Re:PortableApps by JohnSearle · · Score: 1

      I second this.

      I use a number of their apps at work, where they have their systems locked down. I can use Notepad++ as my default editor, instead of IE7 I can use FF with extensions (adblock, greasemonkey, etc.), among other apps.

    3. Re:PortableApps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, PortableApps.com is great!

      Also check out www.portablefreeware.com Great stuff there too!

    4. Re:PortableApps by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 1

      FINALLY a mention of PortableApps!

      I have been free of the need to support any Windows users for years now, but from around 2000 through 2007 I made a few hundred USB thumb drives loaded with office and graphics software from PortableApps, as well as job related documents, Firefox bookmarks, word processor and spreadsheet templates, and just about everything else a new employee at a particular hospital (2000 - 2002) or a student in a job training program (2003 - 2007) would need. Costs of distribution were lower than hardcopy, the material was more easily available to the user, and with so many persons working from the same USB image, some of the advantages of standardization were realized (students were able to help each other find documents or learn to use some feature).

      If you go ahead with this, do consider using PortableApps. If I recall correctly, they had a fairly painless process for updates, for one thing.

      If I were doing this for a family, I would do as others suggested and build a photo album on the stick as well. And maybe digitize some family documents, collections of ancestors' letters, the family tree, a recording of the family singing Christmas carols, etc.

      I would also start thinking about how to make updating the data stash a family yuletide tradition.

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    5. Re:PortableApps by syousef · · Score: 1

      You should fill it full of stuff from PortableApps. Tons of great programs there. Plus they don't have to install anything. No worry about messing up their computer.

      Why the hell your comment is not being modded up I don't know. I already run PortableApps where practical. Saves me time when setting up a new machine. All I do to put them on a USB stick is copy the directory. Done.

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    6. Re:PortableApps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately many of them are not free software! Caveat emptor! So you can end with with some unethical software. And, some of them run much slower than proper installs of the software in question, e.g. LibreOffice. I believe this is because the software has been compressed. So people can get bad first impressions of programs being sluggish.

  9. What I use (legally) by mayberry42 · · Score: 1

    I'd say add Ubuntu / Linux Mint (which people seem to really like, more so than Ubuntu it seems). Other software could be: TrueCrypt and KeePass for internet security, calibre for ebook management,Thunderbird for email and LibreOffice for office needs. While you're at it, Skype (full download) might be good as well - i always seem to need it at the most inopportune moment). This might be a bit of a cheat, but check out here. You know your friends, see for yourself what they might like from here and download accordingly.

    1. Re:What I use (legally) by xenoactive · · Score: 1

      I'll second the TrueCrypt and KeePass recommendation.

  10. portable apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://portableapps.com/

    Just get one of those free packages. They work wonders :)

  11. Re:Pathetic by damn_registrars · · Score: 4

    If giving a cheap flash drive full of crap is your idea of a nice Christmas gift, then the best gift you can give to your family and friends is dying.

    He did say stocking stuffer. I don't know about your family but when I was growing up sometimes our stocking stuffers weren't worth nearly the cost of a flash drive. They'd often be filled with candy or small yo-yo-like toys. I think a flash drive is perfectly in line with that.

    On the other hand, if you are of the habit of sending out $100 bills as stocking stuffers, I'll happily send you my mailing address and you can send some of your extra money to me.

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    Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
  12. PortableApps by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Informative

    You should fill it full of stuff from PortableApps. Tons of great programs there. Plus they don't have to install anything. No worry about messing up their computer.

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  13. Humble Bundle and a donation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You can Buy/Donate in there name and give them some good games too.
    Humble Bundle Games
    Or you can be cheap and just buy for very little and give the games to all your friends. :(

  14. Amiga Forever, by drfreak · · Score: 1

    baby! Once I got ahold of a copy of Nuclear War online and started playing it again, kids of all generations should get to play that!

    1. Re:Amiga Forever, by damnbunni · · Score: 1

      Amiga Forever isn't free; it's $9.95 for the cut-down 'value' edition or $29.95 for the regular edition.

      That said, it really is a very good and easy to use emulator setup. But it's not free.

    2. Re:Amiga Forever, by drfreak · · Score: 1

      Agreed, not free, but worth it. Amiga Forever includes roms for all the revisions of Kickstart, from 1.x to 3.x. The demo scene files alone are worth it to someone who seeks Amiga nostalgia such as myself. The video collection in the Premium edition is pretty cool too. I even got a bit teary-eyed in a few parts watching the culture and work ethic the Commodore developers had while the company deteriorated. Problem was, the support team and marketing had nowhere near the same ethic at the time.

      It was sad to see the Amiga platform go south, but having the emulation platform to rediscover the old gems is priceless. Wait, no. It's not priceless, I think I paid about $50.00 for the 2012 premium edition; totally worth it for me. And, my favourite games are still downloadable and playable with a bit of parameter tweaking. I still can't get Dragon's Lair to work, but Nuclear War is still the shizz after all these years.

  15. uTorrent by Dan+East · · Score: 1

    uTorrent - the gift that keeps on giving.

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  16. congrats, you are now a distributor of crapware by decora · · Score: 0

    this is very similar to the conversation that marketing people have at Dell and Best Buy when figuring out what sort of useless garbage they can load on PCs they are selling to people.

  17. Not worth it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just give them usb sticks with copies of minecraft.
    Seriously, no one wants an ubuntu usb stick that doesn't already know what ubuntu is.

    1. Re:Not worth it. by jon_doh2.0 · · Score: 1

      ditto minecaft.

  18. To run off the drive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or not??
    Are you just going to load the installers or do you want portable alps that will run directly off the drive itself?

    FoxIt PDF reader
    PC Wizard
    KeyFinder
    VLC
    OpenOffice
    IMGBurn
    Spybot S&D
    Firefox

    Will all run straight off a USB stick

  19. You took the words out of my mouth by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

    Inkscape

    GIMP

    Those were the first things that came to mind for me. I use Gimp at least once a week in my job, and Inkscape probably once a month. They are great tools for those who don't need the fanciest of plug-ins. I would bet that they are mature enough now that 90% of home users who think "I need photoshop and/or illustrator" could actually get by just fine with these tools instead.

    And being as most home users know what they can do with the Adobe programs, but not specifically how to do it, they could be just as well off to learn these instead.

    So indeed, save your relatives a few hundred dollars by giving them a flash drive with Inkscape and Gimp. Of course, they probably won't install them, but at least you tried.

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    1. Re:You took the words out of my mouth by professionalfurryele · · Score: 1

      I regularly use GIMP. It is a great piece of software, but as a gift it would be a nightmare. The learning curve is horrid and it uses generally counter intuitive non-standard user interface paradigms. Maybe there is some rhyme or reason to why it is organised the way it is but I've never been able to determine it. Every person I know who has tried to learn to use GIMP has given up in 10 minutes because they couldn't draw a circle or persevered only because Photoshop costs cash. Paint.Net is supposed to be a bit easier to get into but I never needed to try because GIMP does everything I could ever need.

      GIMP has come a long way plugin wise, and if you can code a bit in python then it is an awesome piece of software for image manipulation. Even if you cant, you can do pretty amazing things with it once you get going (I would suggest even most power users will find 99% of what they want in GIMP). But giving it as a gift would be be inviting frustration as best.

      To make this an actual gift rather than an evangelising exercise I'd tailor the drives to each relative. Kids get games like Wesnoth or Tux Racer. Adults get stuff like Inkscape or some family tree software. Keep it simple, keep it fun. Don't put an office suite on there, I don't want to be reminded even tangentially of Clippy at Christmas. Same thing with web browsers unless Uncle Edgar really loves to surf questionable and 'this will keep his old Windows XP machine from getting infected'. Even then, might be worth thinking twice, maybe only if Edgar has been going on about how he hates his computer constantly getting infected. Thow in some themed CC wall papers. The kid who is into Space gets a some shots of nebula, the one who is into horses gets some ponies. Unless you know they have a Mac or Linux machine just give them the Windows installers. A gift is more likely to be appreciated if it is specific to the needs of the person in question.

      I'd also keep a laptop on standby if you are going to give the kids different software and images, because if the kids do get a chance to go and play with their new toys (or just look at their nice wall paper) there may be one they especially like and that could lead to an argument if some kids have it and some kids don't. I wouldn't announce my intentions (that will cause people to devalue the gift and will make one seem cheap), but I also wouldn't let a needless argument develop.

    2. Re:You took the words out of my mouth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No home user needs Inkscape. It's my primary work tool, and perfectly adequate, but you need a fairly thorough grounding in graphics before you even see the point of using it.

      If you're going to promote something, promote MyPaint; it's more like Painter or OpenCanvas.

    3. Re:You took the words out of my mouth by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      The learning curve is horrid

      I've heard that argument many times, although I don't think that Gimp is any more difficult to learn that photoshop, it's just different. I would wager that if you had a user who had no experience with either, you could train them equally well with Gimp in the same amount of time as you could in photoshop.

      After all, both applications are primarily used for technical adjustments to existing files (when used by home users) - crop, rotate, contrast, copy/paste, etc. Very few home users ever start with a blank canvas in either application.

      Every person I know who has tried to learn to use GIMP has given up in 10 minutes because they couldn't draw a circle

      I would say they're doing it wrong. Why would you want to draw a circle in Gimp? That is more of a proper task for a vector drawing application (like Inkscape).

      That said, there are also plenty of good tutorials online that can help you use Gimp. And with a little bit of careful finagling you can use most photoshop techniques in Gimp as well.

      or persevered only because Photoshop costs cash

      Of course for the dead-set-on-photoshop crowd you could always try Gimpshop instead. Same free underpinnings, with special display settings to make it look more like Adobe. I've had good luck getting people to use that when they were previously Gimp-averse.

      To make this an actual gift rather than an evangelising exercise I'd tailor the drives to each relative.

      That is a solid idea. I don't have any specific suggestions for kids, or really for anyone who doesn't need image editing software since that is the first thing that comes to mind for me. I am a big fan of openoffice/libreoffice but I know that bringing that up can trigger a shitstorm here on slashdot and it seems like 60% of windows users already have pirated (either intentionally or through their employer) copies of MS Office anyways so it is rarely a useful thing to discuss. On a similar idea gaming is a minefield since it is enormously difficult to predict what games will be fun or meaningful for someone you don't know.

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    4. Re:You took the words out of my mouth by professionalfurryele · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry but the UI in GIMP is simply unintuitive and poorly designed for most casual to intermediate users needs. Prior to learning to use GIMP I'd only ever used Photoshop for removing red eye. I didn't really like it, but I could start using it pretty quickly. I've since used other software and can easily identify ways in which GIMP could borrow ideas to improve the learning experience. It is a matter of degrees, I can say the same for Photoshop (I actually don't like Photoshop very much, but I think that is just because I'm used to how GIMP does things), but GIMP is particularly bad. Sure, once you get into it, yes you have a pretty efficient work flow, but that was achieved at a needlessly high cost.

      These people weren't trying to draw a circle because it was what they wanted to do. They were trying to draw a circle (or a box, or a straight line, etc) because they assumed it would be easy and a simple place to start. The smart ones knew that image editing is complicated and tried to get off the ground with something they assumed would be simple. Most users of raster and vector image editing / creation software make that assumption. What they wanted to do was remove a blemish from a photo or remove some lens flare or something similar.

      GIMP's design makes the assumption you are rarely going to do anything simple in this manner (which is actually generally true, you rarely need to draw a circle). This is congruent with how people work, but totally the opposite to how they learn. This also means getting back into GIMP is a pain, because there are no easy routine tasks (besides cropping and rotating) to recut your teeth on.

      These people were not dead set on Photoshop, I've met the graphics design type who are as you describe (although in some of those cases the are part of the 0.1% who need the extra bells and whistles that Photoshop provides). Gimpshop goes some way towards convincing people who are used to doing things in Photoshop that they can use the GIMP, but I don't think it helps with newbies and it doesn't fix GIMPS fundamental problem.

    5. Re:You took the words out of my mouth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every person I know who has tried to learn to use GIMP has given up in 10 minutes because they couldn't draw a circle

      They're not thinking correctly. If you can draw it as a path (for non-closed shapes), or select it (for closed shapes), you can paint along it with the brush tool, or outline it.

      It's so much more than just being able to "draw a circle". You could draw a number of intersecting shapes using the selection union and subtract options, and then outline the complex selection. You can draw much more complex paths than simple lines or curves, and then stroke the entire path. Yes, you can also make squares, circles, and lines, but the potential is for much more and that's why it's a little dis-intuitive when "all you want" is to draw a circle.

    6. Re:You took the words out of my mouth by professionalfurryele · · Score: 1

      Yes, you end up with a very powerful tool with a good work flow. That is why I use it. I never said GIMP wasn't powerful or that the work flow was bad (although I do have a few gripes there too), in some regards I would suggest it has even surpassed Photoshop. There is a reason it has a permanent spot on my hard drive.

      It is still as easy to learn as trying to understand physics by starting with string theory. And it needn't be so. That was my point.

    7. Re:You took the words out of my mouth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh, I don't think it's so bad that I would call it a "nightmare." Besides, isn't there something you can do to it to make its interface look like Photoshop? Can't remember what it's called...

    8. Re:You took the words out of my mouth by professionalfurryele · · Score: 1

      There is Gimpshop. It helps if you have someone who is familiar with Photoshop, but I don't think that solves the fundamental problem. Doesn't really help me since I really don't like Photoshop. I don't want GIMP to be like Photoshop, I want GIMP to be a more user friendly GIMP. Still I'm hopeful, the project is on board with the OpenUsability project, and I'm keeping an eye on future versions to see if things improve. I know there was talk of moving to an optional single window interface which would be nice, I still haven't got the knack of getting GIMP to lay itself out gracefully on my Xfce desktop and the multiple windows never really helped my workflow except on machines with very low resolution.

      Nightmare is just my experience. I think it is because I'm not a graphic designer, but I'm still the guy who gets called in to help people with this kind of stuff. But if the guy you need to teach a program is that rare I would suggest maybe tweaking the interface paradigm a bit isn't too nuts.

  20. ooh maybe we should put linux in hotel rooms by decora · · Score: 3, Funny

    the penguin king demands it, justin!

  21. Have you tried a Goodwill store? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not free but close to it, and it goes to a worthy cause. Yes, software. Clothing. All sorts of mostly-free. If you plead poverty, I'm sure you can walk out with a few free things, to boot. And isn't that what you want, after all?

  22. I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A few years ago, I gave my friends and family gifts like this. They each got a 256 MB USB stick with Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice.org and some other open source software I thought they might find useful. Well, they didn't appreciate it at all.

    Right after getting it, one of my nieces threw it back at me, calling it useless, and then she called me a "nerd ass faggot". I found out later that her brothers deleted everything on theirs without even bothering to try them.

    My older relatives had no idea at all what they were. Some of them thought they were supposed to put them on their keychains, as decorations!

    I'm not sure who, but some of my relatives didn't even bother to bring them home with them after they left the Christmas gathering. I found several of them lying on the floor after everyone had left for the night.

    I hoped it would be a learning experience for them, but it was really a learning experience for me. Most people don't give a fuck about open source software. They just don't care. And they surely don't want to receive it as a gift.

  23. A vastly underappreciated game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lovely game (if a bit gimmicky), fits on a flash drive, and entirely free: http://www.netstormhq.com/news.php

  24. Sorta useful suggestion by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the idea's a lil bland, I mean ... yay you put some free apps they could go get anyway.

    But.... its' a stocking stuffer, let's have a little fun, right? Why not run around a few sites like Fail blog or LOLCats and find a big heap of funny pictures, and plunk em on the drive? That way they'll plug the drive in and have some fun zipping through those and having a few laughs. You could even throw in a folder family photos and give them something unique.

    But if you're dead set on giving away apps, I can tell you I'd dig it if somebody took a flash drive and put Portable versions of Chrome, Opera, Firefox, a good mail client, and... well surprise me! I say 'portable' because if I don't have to install them, I'd definitely poke around and try them out.

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    1. Re:Sorta useful suggestion by Tragek · · Score: 1

      I think the idea's a lil bland, I mean ... yay you put some free apps they could go get anyway.

      Ditto: Results in Present Face.

    2. Re:Sorta useful suggestion by FrootLoops · · Score: 4, Insightful

      yay you put some free apps they could go get anyway.

      Most of the trouble of getting good free software is finding it, so I'd say the value of the software part of the gift is mostly as a list of suggestions one can conveniently test out.

    3. Re:Sorta useful suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "But.... its' a stocking stuffer, let's have a little fun, right? Why not run around a few sites like Fail blog or LOLCats and find a big heap of funny pictures, and plunk em on the drive?"

      That would increase the value greatly.

    4. Re:Sorta useful suggestion by cgenman · · Score: 1

      Everyone will look at photos and videos. Some people will launch games. Most people won't bother launching applications. Nobody will use installers.

      Throw a couple of funny videos on there, a quick message to your friends, maybe some photos of cats. A link to Kiva if you're feeling like being socially positive.

    5. Re:Sorta useful suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the idea's a lil bland, I mean ... yay you put some free apps they could go get anyway.

      But.... its' a stocking stuffer, let's have a little fun, right? Why not run around a few sites like Fail blog or LOLCats and find a big heap of funny pictures, and plunk em on the drive? That way they'll plug the drive in and have some fun zipping through those and having a few laughs. You could even throw in a folder family photos and give them something unique.

      But if you're dead set on giving away apps, I can tell you I'd dig it if somebody took a flash drive and put Portable versions of Chrome, Opera, Firefox, a good mail client, and... well surprise me! I say 'portable' because if I don't have to install them, I'd definitely poke around and try them out.

      Because the content on LOLcats is copyright....

  25. Re:Pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agreed. This is a ridiculous Ask Slashdot. Why give people FOSS crap they can download on their own for free? Leave the flash drive in its package....

  26. A simple text file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Just include a text file telling your friends not to put random flash drives in their computers. If you can't find such a text file, I suggest making one and releasing it under the GPH. Since this will probably offend them, you'll also need to get new friends. But who wants to be friends with people that run random things they get on a flash drive, anyway?

  27. free or Free? by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just give them uTorrent - the gift that keeps on giving!

    Seriously, though, are we talking about freeware or Free Open Source Software? There's a lot of great freeware out there; applications like Picasa, utilities like Piriform's set, games like Cave Story (a.k.a. Doukutsu Monotogari). I hope you're not ruling out closed source, since your friends and family really won't care about the difference.

    Also, you should probably start by looking for popular downloads on sites like FileHippo, SourceForge, and even (groan) Download.com. There are also quite a few commercial games that were later released as freeware or free-to-play; Team Fortress 2 is a prime example.

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    1. Re:free or Free? by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 1

      I believe he is talking about fRee software.

  28. Linux + Portable Windows Apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a USB key on my keychain that it split into two partitions:

    Partition 1 is a fat32 partition with a bunch of portable windows apps on it. I can use it wherever there is a Windows machine
    Partition 2 is also a fat32 partition and it has a bootable version of linux (Ubuntu) on it along with a persistence file.

    This makes a really great tool that I can take anywhere and use on just about any machine I can find.

  29. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    *Anonymous bro hug*.

  30. Wikileaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Load 'em with as much as you can from wikileaks ;-)

  31. Humble Bundles by sandytaru · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not quite free, but you can buy a handful of them at $1 a pop and explain that you're giving them away as gifts.

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  32. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "nerd ass faggot"

    you have a family of cunts.

  33. 1950s or so cigarette commercials by ThorGod · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I used to have a zip file with a ton of free-use black and white cigarette/tabacco commercials. I'm sure they still exist on torrent sites. They're free and *legal*, and some will make your head spin in three different directions all at once. Then they can delete them and use your gift as a gift ;)

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    1. Re:1950s or so cigarette commercials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to have a zip file with a ton of free-use black and white cigarette/tabacco commercials. I'm sure they still exist on torrent sites. They're free and *legal*, and some will make your head spin in three different directions all at once. Then they can delete them and use your gift as a gift ;)

      Yeah, a friend of mine showed these to me a couple of years ago. It was really fascinating, what they got away with back then. I watched them over and over.

      Anyway, long story short, I have emphysema now.

  34. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I don't believe you, but the story is plausible.

  35. portableapps.com by DragonTHC · · Score: 3, Informative

    The portable apps suite is a powerful free toolbox useful for any user and admin alike.

    You can also customize each flash drive to the recipient of the gift. There's tons of apps available including games.

    www.portableapps.com

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    1. Re:portableapps.com by Ayourk · · Score: 1

      I second this. Portable Apps rock. There are programs on that site that meet all of your criteria for programs to put on a pen drive. Question is; will you be buying a large enough pen drive to hold all of those programs?

  36. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, they do say that a good gift should cost you a lot (to show how much you care about the recipient) while being of as little actual value as possible (because otherwise it could be a bribe).* Free software is pretty much the opposite.

    * I confess that if people give me gifts like I prescribe, I usually get a bit cross. But I've experienced time and again that other people do tick the way I describe. It's a mystery.

  37. How about other stuff - like family photos? by JoeCommodore · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Back in the 80s I did a Commodore 64 Christmas Disk for three years, one thing that was good about it is that I know everyone who I gave it to had a Commodore 64, and thus everything to use the disk. Now ids a different matter, you have people running potentially three platforms (Linux, Mac, Windows) with several versions as well as varying system specs. Not that FOSS software isn't a bad idea, I just hope you have time to support all those people you give it to as there will be issues depending on thier OS, and technical skills.

    I have a better idea; A couple years ago I did that but included family photos, etc. stuff my family would be interested in regardless of the platform.

    Besides photos, also think about video clips of the family and kids, and you can throw in PD or CC music , e-books, art, etc.

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    1. Re:How about other stuff - like family photos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up boys and girls!

  38. PortableApps.com by ckaminski · · Score: 1

    Load up the new launcher beta and load all the existing apps.

  39. LiMP by Tastecicles · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Linux Media Player and some CC music and movies.

    Did this in '08 for my friends, still gets talked about - I still get voicemail with "Got any more of that free live music?"

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    1. Re:LiMP by Confusador · · Score: 1

      Now this sounds awesome! Got any suggestions about where to find good CC music? I support musopen.org for classical stuff, and of course I know Jonathon Coulton, but other than that I don't know where to begin looking.

    2. Re:LiMP by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      Here's where I get 90% of my music (the other 10% I actually go to shows). Requires a Torrent client plus Monkeys Audio, libFLAC and Shorten codecs but that's no biggy - the links are there...

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  40. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by WorBlux · · Score: 1

    Ouch, what a nice niece. Should have loaded it up with SNES games.

  41. Don't forget Candy & Presentation by ddxexex · · Score: 1

    I've always thought stocking stuffers should usually provide some instant gratification.
    Since you're presumably giving these to less-tech literate people, there's a decent chance they won't immediately think the USB drives are awesome and wipe the disk without too much thought. Now if you tie some candy (like a candy cane) around the drive stick on a bow and make pretty, they will treat it more specially and might actually try out the software since they've already associated the USB drive as awesome, they'll see the FOSS on it as awesome too.

  42. a virus by kixome · · Score: 0

    send them duku or stuxnet. Until you personally mentioned it I was going to say that I remember this exact same question last year around belial-mas time. I read slashdot pretty much every hour on the hour of everyday. The only regret I have had as of late is the slow pace at which news comes in, and further the low amount of linux news on the site nowadays.

  43. WSUS Offline Update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assuming that your family runs windows, I highly recommend including WSUS Offline Update along with pre-downloaded patch files for all versions of windows/office that you are likely to encounter in your family tree. IMHO, it's the first app they should run when they receive your present. Link: http://www.wsusoffline.net/

  44. Wikipedia? by hawguy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How about the Wikipedia database? Only 7GB (compressed) and will provide many hours of bedside reading.

    Or, if you're feeling particularly generous, give them the full database including all revisions - only 28GB compressed with 7-Zip, so will fit nicely on a 32GB flash drive. This expands to over 5TB of data, so will provide many more hours of exciting reading.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download#English-language_Wikipedia

    1. Re:Wikipedia? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      That might actually be worth it if it means I don't have to look at Jimmy Whales' face anymore.

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    2. Re:Wikipedia? by rapidreload · · Score: 1

      Only 7GB (compressed) and will provide many hours of bedside reading.

      That would only be of interest if the recipient didn't have any form of Internet and in your example, didn't have a laptop with a wireless connection. Otherwise it seems like a waste of bandwidth.

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  45. Mint, not Ubuntu by MurukeshM · · Score: 1

    Aside from Linux Mint, which I prefer over Ubuntu for a better out of the box experience (I just installed Lisa yesterday evening), I'd suggest these: VLC / SMplayer
    LibreOffice
    7zip (and *remove* Winzip/WinRAR/whatever).
    Firefox / Google Chrome
    Notepad++ (associate with everything)
    Thunderbird
    Foxit Reader (I know it's closed source, perhaps Sumatra instead? I use both)
    Picasa
    Pidgin
    If the receiver is a student, tools for things like Latex (Miktex + Texmaker, perhaps?)
    A print copy of the manual.
    Whatever you like from Portable Apps. :)

  46. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by hedwards · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Which is why you give them on CDs or not at all.

    And really, this is a pretty self serving gift so it's probably best not given at all.

  47. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't think I believe him either; the general gist of the story sounds plausible, but the details make it seem fabricated, especially the bit about the "nerd ass faggot", people leaving them lying on the floor, etc. Unless this guy comes from an incredibly rude family, most people are polite enough to accept gifts as-is, and if they don't like them keep their mouth shut and dispose of the gift later. One kid not being polite is certainly believable (kids haven't learned all their manners yet), but multiple adults? Doubtful. Moreover, he didn't say what year this was, but I'd assume that at that time, 256MB USB drives were considered decently large. If someone gave me a 2GB USB drive (today considered fairly small) loaded with pirated Windows software, for instance, even though I have no use for Windows software I'd still take the USB drive and just erase it and use it for my own purposes. You can never have too many of those things.

  48. Portableapps.com by schizz69 · · Score: 2

    Full of free Portable applications, so they can take their email inbox, firefox favourites and a whole lot of other tools and toys with them wherever they go. The best bit is, they are all FREE!!!

  49. Photos by M0j0_j0j0 · · Score: 1

    Photos of you and the person that is going to receive the gift, i think its the most logical, quit the OSS adventism.

  50. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most people have no interest or even any idea about how the operating system works or even what they are doing when they access the internet. Don't bother with this idea, give them some idiotic thing that they will appreciate, such as a coupon for some junk food or something! :( Rob, Houston Texas

  51. really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard about being cheap but that tops them all.

  52. Give People What They Like, Not What You Like by Quantum_Infinity · · Score: 0

    This is probably not a good idea. Not everybody cares about software even though almost everybody uses it in one way or the other. Unless your target audience is a geek/nerd crowd, this is a bad idea. It may seem a great idea to you but an average person would think it is a terrible gift. Give them what they like, not what you like.

  53. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by anglico · · Score: 1

    OMG I wish I had mod points...literally 2 days after they expire and you do this! That was so perfect, anonymous or not!

  54. Re:OK, I'm paranoid. by couchslug · · Score: 1

    So how do you sanitize the media you BUY for yourself?

    --
    "This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
  55. This is a TERRIBLE idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a TERRIBLE idea, and I can already see that a previous poster has experienced just how terrible it is in person.
     
    Nerds are widely known for their poor social skills, and this falls squarely into that squirm-inducingly unfortunate category.
     
    If you're going to communicate with people (and yes, gift giving qualifies as a form of communication), then it's incumbent upon you, the communicator, to ensure that you're speaking in a language the communicatee understands.
     
    I remember, as a child, getting things like socks for christmas and being very disappointed at what was inside of the brightly-colored wrapping paper. What you're proposing is, for a standard-issue human, exactly the same kind of thing.
     
    Don't do it!

  56. For image handling, Irfanview by aoeu · · Score: 2

    For image manipulation, The Gimp. To get it out of the camera, UFRaw. To get rid of duplicates, Clonespy. These are all rock solid maintained performers

    --
    All your database are belong to U.S.
  57. Don't call it free software. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly they don't care, and it'll just make your gift sound shitty. Just say it's filled with games and other fun stuff.

    Mostly people are going to find the games the most useful. Nobody except techno-geeks really gives a shit about encryption, or system utilities. How would you like to receive a pack of vitamins as a stocking stuffer, with some advice about how just 2000mg of Vitamin D a day can cut your cancer risk in half? It's true, but it still makes a shitty gift.

    Focus on things EVERYONE likes. This means games, movies, etc. There's plenty of public domain movies available for anyone to download. Most of them suck ass, but some are decent.

  58. Hacking tools by abelb · · Score: 0

    For the younger ones with an interest in computers how about some simple hacking tools? Kids would think that was cool. "DOS your little sisters netbook of the wifi with this bad boy". Hehehe,

  59. Ubuntu - makes Windows look slow and sloppy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give your parents Ubuntu - install it on their pc and they will be amazed at the speed, ease of use and lack of viruses. Its the gift that keeps on giving. They won't be able to pronounce it but that doesn't matter, it just works.

  60. OSS for WIN by enter+to+exit · · Score: 5, Informative

    There exists such a project currently:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDisc

    Couple this with the selection from OSS-WIN solves your dilemma significantly: http://osswin.sourceforge.net/

  61. For Windows 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make sure your Mom's computer has all the games that come with Windows 7 loaded. Those are located in Programs and Features control panel applet under "Turn Windows Features On or Off".

    Make sure Telnet is activated (see above) and give them the address to the "Deeper Trouble" MUD at deepertrouble.org on port number 4242.

  62. Trinidad & Tobago Computer Society OSSWIN CD by jdeisenberg · · Score: 4, Informative
  63. Only thing non techies will appreciate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Put VNC server on it and attach a certificate for a free technical support session with you when they screw something up and need help.

    Only other thing the non techies will appreciate would be if you put a ton of family photos on it.

  64. i grew up among white trash... by retchdog · · Score: 0

    and a friend of mine got, from his uncle, for christmas, an insulated mug from shoney's with his name added in black vinyl letter-stickers.

    now, seriously, i think that getting a usb drive full of weird software that doesn't work with "the computer" i use (i.e. windows) would be even below that in terms of cool. i say this as a long-time linux user.

    --
    "They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
  65. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ouch. Sucks to have family sometimes.. I would have loved that gift as a teenager.. But I guess I'm a Nerd.. :|

  66. Bad Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bad idea for a gift. If people know what a USB drive is for they will wonder what all that crap is on it. Are they really going to look through it all and see what it is good for? They will probably think there is a virus or rootkit on there as well.

    Also do you want to be supporting all the stuff on there?

    In addition some people will think what they are getting isn't a USB drive, but a used USB drive.

  67. Give the gift that keeps on giving by russotto · · Score: 2

    Fill the drive with all the malware you can find.

  68. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by mayberry42 · · Score: 1

    They just don't care. And they surely don't want to receive it as a gift.

    This says more about them (highly disrespectful and inconsiderate) than about you (thoughtful) and your gifts, to be honest. Dont be so quick to judge this as a bad idea - some families actually treat each other with kindness, courtesy and respect (something you may want to consider mentioning next time you talk to your niece) and thus will appreciate a custom-made gift - even if its something they dont like.

  69. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by smpoole7 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    *Slightly* off topic, but let's face it: you'd do something like that because, deep down inside (if nothing else), you're hoping they'll fire up the software on that USB stick and say, "wow! And it's free??? Gimme some more o' dis!"

    If you're trying to spread the news about Free Software, the only effective way to do it is to SHOW them. Most of the people whom I've converted to Linux did so after watching me use KDE (formerly) and Gnome (more recently). The multiple desktops are absolutely intriguing to a power user; it won't be long before he/she starts thinking, "hmmm ... I could use that." The fact that you're not playing "whack-a-mole" with a dozen pop ups each time you boot is impressive, too, as is the fact that, with a good distro, updates are centralized, controlled and politely done, with rarely a need to reboot.

    Of course, I go one step further. If they want to see Windows, I've installed Windows in a Virtual Box. I can bring up Windows as a nice, well-behaved little application one one of my multiple desktops, where it stays out of the way until I really want or need it ..... the way it SHOULD BE. (Evil. Grin.)

    --
    Cogito, igitur comedam pizza.
  70. Not flash drives or free software by Garwulf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Okay, I know some other people have mentioned this - and been voted down for it - but this has to be said: both free software and flash drives are terrible ideas for stocking stuffers on general principles.

    Look, there are two reasons for this. The first is that any worthwhile gift has to be about the person you're giving it to. It has to be something THEY will appreciate. And, ideally, it should be something they wouldn't have gotten otherwise. When it comes to holiday shopping, even the friends of mine who are techies I wouldn't give free software or a data stick to. The ones who are into free software likely already have what I'd give them, and the ones who aren't would probably prefer something more non-technical, or more difficult to come by. It doesn't matter if you think it's cool - it's what THEY think.

    The second is that, well, the gift should be something out of the ordinary. A flash drive is a basic computer accessory, and free software is, well, FREE. If it was software you created, then it would be worthwhile, as it was something you made. But otherwise, it would be like giving somebody a box of tissues.

    If you're looking for gift ideas, be creative and stay away from the free software. If you've got a wine lover, give them a bottle of ice wine; if you've got somebody who loves the cute stuff, an interesting plush toy or the like. And if you absolutely have to give somebody software, make it something you created yourself or something that they would have to go shopping and pay for to get otherwise.

    But if you go with flash drives and free software, the only thing you'll end up coming across as is some boring, thoughtless, self-obsessed cheapskate. Believe me, you don't want that.

    --
    Robert B. Marks
    Author, Demonsbane in Diablo Archive
    1. Re:Not flash drives or free software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The ones who are into free software likely already have what I'd give them, and the ones who aren't would probably prefer something more non-technical, or more difficult to come by. It doesn't matter if you think it's cool - it's what THEY think."

      Amen - giving free stuff as a gift is just...wrong. Why not just grab something out of the house you don't need anymore and give that away? Jello mold? 386SX computer? box of 5-1/4" floppy disks?

    2. Re:Not flash drives or free software by belg4mit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      1) It's the thought and effort that counts
      2) It's a fucking stocking stuffer, not the "big gift from santa"

      --
      Were that I say, pancakes?
    3. Re:Not flash drives or free software by tbird81 · · Score: 3, Funny

      What child wouldn't want a copy of 7-Zip for Christmas? You'd be the coolest uncle in the world!

      For their birthday you could get them pngcrush! And maybe, for a treat, you could include an update for the Windows PCI device driver.

    4. Re:Not flash drives or free software by Stevecrox · · Score: 1

      Mod this person up, ignoring everything else about Christmas I have always thought it as a time to show family and friends you care about them. Gifts should be thoughtful and hopefully meaningful I would argue that they can be utilitarian or something you would buy yourself.

      Last year my parents bought me a Nokia bluetooth stereo headset, I would have bought them myself when my old set had died. They got them because over the year I owned the previous set I would mention about how they are better for online play, the gym, how I kept calling them on the old set and how gutted I was that my old set were dying. I never asked for them for Christmas and they meant a lot because it showed they do listen even when I go off on a technology rant.

      I should point out that you shouldn't let money be a factor, one of my little sisters is trying to set a limit no Christmas spending. The rest of the family has been trying to explain that the amount you spend doesn't matter it's more important to get something meaningful. Heck last year I got my Dad a £5 survival kit and it has to be the most used and talked about present he got that year

    5. Re:Not flash drives or free software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know that I would reccomend giving it every year, but I don't think USB sticks are a horrible idea.

      A couple years ago just after my grandfather passed away, some one bought my grandmother an electronic photo frame. She loved it as it could display multiple pictures, but I caught wind that she wished it could hold more pictures. She was thinking about buying an SD card for it, but they were expensive. Since I knew she was looking at places like Stables, I went to a local chain which always has cheap SD cards and USB sticks and bought a big SD card.

      I then loaded it with pictures of my children, pictures of my sister's wedding (she had gotten married in June), etc. My sister's primarily use my mom's camera, so I secretly copied her SD card when we were visiting for Thanksgiving.

      The card was a hit with my grandmother; I walked her through how to add more pictures over the phone as I did not have pictures of my cousins. What did surprise me were requests from my mother and sister's for a similar gift. The card was bigger then the one my mother was currently using in her camera and more importantly, she really liked having a copy of the pictures; when I pointed out that she had most of the pictures already, it was the fact they were sorted and organised that really made the difference.

    6. Re:Not flash drives or free software by Garwulf · · Score: 1

      Very well said.

      The best gift I ever received was a portrait of my great-grandfather on the eve of World War I in his Russian army uniform. He had died when I was a kid, and it felt like he had just been given back to me.

      I'm hoping to do the same for my father this year for his birthday. My plan is to give him a copy of his father's World War II record (my grandfather passed away earlier this year). Neither of these are expensive gifts, but they're the sort of gifts that will always be remembered.

      --
      Robert B. Marks
      Author, Demonsbane in Diablo Archive
    7. Re:Not flash drives or free software by nbauman · · Score: 1

      Best gift I ever gave was a copy of a patent that this girl's father had filed.

      He was an engineer, she knew he had patents, but she had never seen them. I used to go to the patent library so I looked him up. They had to do with high-voltage power line transmission.

      When she opened the envelope she thought it was some weird, geeky thing -- until she saw her father's name on it. She made copies and passed it around to the whole family. She was my friend for life.

      I only wish her father had still been alive so I could talk to him about transmission lines.

  71. Re:OK, I'm paranoid. by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

    or you could just boot from a live cd and wipe it and not be a turd.

    --
    ---Saying gnome 3 is better than windows 8 not so much a compliment as it is damning with light praise.
  72. I would not do this. by flimflammer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't think this is a particularly good gift. Giving people free software on top of a cheap thumb drive (even giant ones are a dime a dozen now) feels little more than a silent push to free software from whatever they might be currently using.

    If you want to give them a gift, give them something like a copy of Minecraft--something they can't just download for themselves.

    1. Re:I would not do this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In a world of mass advertising, monopolistic practices and manufactured peer pressure it's too much to show someone what you use and enjoy, and that there may be alternatives to what they already use (at no extra cost no less). A silent push is the step too far. That's where you draw the line? Wow. Someones been at the corporate kool-aid.

    2. Re:I would not do this. by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      I suggest you troll elsewhere, kind anonymous coward.

  73. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 1

    First off, your relatives suck for not even having the common decency of feigning appreciation. Second, this was a learning experience. I was planning on doing this same thing this year for Christmas. Now it's off to buy giftcards: something I hate doing.

    --
    The game.
  74. A "make your computer faster" kit by ccole8 · · Score: 1

    I second all the people that said PortableApps.com, but don't gear it to open source (nobody cares). Gear it to making their computer faster and fixing viruses/spyware. Get a defragger (Smart Defrag), anti-virus (ClamWin), anti-spyware (Spybot S&D). Then maybe some useful installable programs like Recuva (recover deleted files), CCleaner (registry cleaner/hard drive cleaner...I think there are portable cleaners, I just haven't used them), etc. Then if you were feeling sneaky, throw in a trojan somewhere so you can mess with them later (anybody remember NetBus?)

    1. Re:A "make your computer faster" kit by tbird81 · · Score: 1

      Are you planning to buy your wife a new mophead, a scouring pad and some oven cleaner for Xmas?

    2. Re:A "make your computer faster" kit by Stevecrox · · Score: 1

      I'm buying my Mum a toaster this Christmas... as a bit of fun. Every time I visit my parents I almost set fire to the kitchen using the old one (timer doesn't work) and there is now a long running joke about it between my Mum and me. That won't be her actual present, just something silly under the tree

      I agree this idea does sound like a terrible gift, there seems little thought about the intended person and putting software on it will involve opening the packaging which will make it seem like a used usb stick

    3. Re:A "make your computer faster" kit by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      Back in Ye Olden Dayes, the telephone in our kitchen had a particularly long handset cord that would always get twisted up into a big ball. My mom would always complain about how ugly it looked. So one year for Christmas I bought her a cordless phone. It's not like she was particularly into getting electronic gadgets for Christmas, or that she was thinking she needed a new phone. But obviously she did.

      --
      Breakfast served all day!
  75. Obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Porn!!

  76. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This actually sounds like a pretty typical American family event to me. I've seen the same stuff happen at my family's Christmas events in California, as well as at my wife's family's events in New Hampshire. Kids will be very vocal about gifts they don't like, especially the teenagers. They'll throw tantrums and cuss if they get something they don't really want. It isn't limited to the children, either. Some of the adults will exhibit similar behavior, although it's often more passive. Leaving unwanted gifts behind is just the kind of passive-aggressive attack that they'll perform. I know this can happen because my wife and I gave her adult sister and her sister's husband some wine last year, but apparently it wasn't expensive enough for them. They showed disappointment when they received it, and they left it behind, although they did keep some more expensive wine they were given by other relatives. We ended up taking it instead.

  77. My Free App List by tty7 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Games: FrozenBubble, Neverball, Vertigo, Zaz, Supertuxkart, Some form of tetris, Gweled, Blobby Volley 2, LBreakout 2, Frogatto, armagetron, xmoto, PokerTH, trackballs. Others: Cryptkeeper (hide directories), audacity(bundle mp3 support), openshot, desktop recorder, clementine-player(music), smplayer (if everyone has vlc), cherry--tree(note taking app, http://www.giuspen.com/cherrytree/), tasque, focuswriter and virtualbox to run ubuntu.

  78. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Your problem is that this is a selfish, smug, self-serving, "gift." It's the nerd equivalent of giving your Baptist neighbors copies of the Quran for Christmas in the hopes that they'll find it to be a learning experience. It's not a gift so much as an attempt to propagate your own ideological beliefs onto others in the way requiring the least actual pedagogy on your part. It's like asking your teacher how to spell a word, and they crassly tell you to look it up in the dictionary. Only worse. Your family aren't even asking. You're just giving them the dictionary and expecting them to have fun looking up words.

  79. a iPredator subscription and demonoid invite by vaporland · · Score: 2

    it's the gift that keeps on giving, literally...

    --
    Ask Me About... The 80's!
  80. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by ktappe · · Score: 1

    Like others, I'm having some trouble believing this is entirely true. However, in case it is it was not only a learning experience for you but a useful one. For example, you learned never to buy your niece anything ever again. I sure as hell wouldn't. I'd even go out of my way to blatantly give her absolutely nothing and if/when anyone in the family mentioned it, remind them how she treated you. Quote her word for word and say you refuse to ever reward such behavior. Saves you a few $ and is satisfying as hell.

    --
    "We can categorically state we have not released man-eating badgers into the area." - UK military spokesman, July 2007
  81. Re:Forget software, give 'em free videos. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they under CC? Just wondering, who owns their copyright.

  82. Don't put stuff on it that they'll already have by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they use Internet Explorer... don't try to get them to switch to Firefox by putting it on there.
    If they use WinZip, don't try to switch them to 7-Zip.
    If they use Windows Media Player, don't try to switch them to VLC.

    In short, don't put stuff on it that duplicates functionality their computer probably already does.

    That basically leaves games. Games are probably okay.

    Converting someone to OSS requires convincing them that they should switch. It's not something you give them for Christmas.

  83. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I found out later that her brothers deleted everything on theirs without even bothering to try them.

    yeah, well I don't run software given to me on a USB drive either.

    besides, were you really disappointed? did you intend to give a gift, or to convert them to your ideology?

  84. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why not load a bunch of old family photos that they may not have.

  85. Portable Tor by Vegemeister · · Score: 1

    Portable Tor for the young'uns. It is invalueble for punching through school web filters.

  86. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wow, that's weird. I guess good manners and politeness are just a thing of the past for America now.

    As for the wine, I'd be perfectly happy with cheaper wine. I've tried many cheap and expensive wines, and have found an inverse relationship between the cost and how much I like it. I guess I don't have enough of an "acquired taste". :-P

  87. Focus on *useful* programs by Boawk · · Score: 1

    I'd buy them copies of programs like cat, shut, yes, and xeyes (which is a game). If you have them on your system you could copy them but I'm not sure if that's ethical.

  88. Giving GIMP is mean by csumpi · · Score: 1

    I really want GIMP to be a a good alternative to Photoshop, but it's not. In fact it's terrible. It's like photoshop from 15 years ago, except with an unusable UI.

    I know it's not open source, but it's worth to bend the rules on this one and include Paint.net instead of GIMP.

    1. Re:Giving GIMP is mean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GIMP is fine. Nobody needs PS. If you can adjust curves, levels, do an intelligent select, and handle layers you have 95% of what anyone will ever use.

    2. Re:Giving GIMP is mean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you can adjust curves, levels, do an intelligent select, and handle layers you have 95% of what anyone will ever use.

      Only 5% of people want it to print to scale? I doubt that.

  89. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by adolf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    wine: Something that appreciates in value as your willingness to say "Oh, now that's interesting!" increases.

  90. No. by Jiro · · Score: 2

    Anything that you can get for free, they can get for free. If they can get it for free, it's automatically unsuitable as a gift.

    Even if the software is just a bonus for the flash drives, and you're also giving them a real gift and the flash drive is just the equivalent of a candy cane, it's still a bad idea. Free software is something you're interested in. You don't give people gifts that you're interested in, or that are meant to convince them to do things that you approve of. That kind of gift is self-serving and arrogant no matter how good the cause; just giving them actual candy canes would probably be received better.

    1. Re:No. by CAPSLOCK2000 · · Score: 1

      Making the effort of compiling a good collection of software/media is also a gift in itself.
      Anyone can make a drawing, yet people still value receiving a good or personal picture.

  91. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by belg4mit · · Score: 1

    It's nothing like your anaology. People could use the software without becoming zealots.
    An office suite is generally useful, and not everybody wants to/can afford to pay Microsoft,
    or feels uncomfortable stealing.

    And in the case of the question at hand, what difference does it make to the brat if nerds
    have more than one reason for liking the games they are being given?

    Another layer of framing that might help a project like this would be to explain that the
    productivity software is "bullet-proofof", but in the event assistance is needed *with it*
    you'd be happy to help. If you're likelyto beroped into providing support anyhow, why
    not make it easy on yourself/

    --
    Were that I say, pancakes?
  92. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by NFN_NLN · · Score: 4, Funny

    Right after getting it, one of my nieces threw it back at me, calling it useless, and then she called me a "nerd ass faggot".

    Wait, wait, wait...

    Did your niece call you a "nerd-ass faggot"... or a "nerd ass-faggot", because the hyphen really changes the dynamics of the entire story :)

    http://xkcd.com/37/

  93. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man,
    I wish my family would treat me like that.

    Then I wouldn't feel guilty saying "It's your computer, learn to fix it yourself!"

  94. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1

    Sorry but not only are you trying to "convert" them to your FOSS beliefs but it is the software equivalent of giving last year's calendar as gifts. It makes you look like you could not think of buying them a real gift or actually making something original so you just shoved some "free" software onto USB sticks. Because you opened and installed the software on them they were already "used" by the time they got them.

    --
    Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
  95. Load a.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gift certificate for MW3 you cheap bastard!

  96. Good; Useful; Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pick two.

  97. Best advice you can get. Get them gifts they want. by aristotle-dude · · Score: 2

    Don't be an arse and try to "convert" people to your FOSS leanings by giving them a trojan "gift horse". Seriously, either give a gift that you actually think they would like or don't bother. That gift does not have to be expensive or even bought but if it is the latter, then you actually have to have created it yourself. Taking a USB stick and copying over FOSS is not creative or a real gift. You are basically giving out a FOSS tract.

    --
    Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
  98. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    next year... malware

  99. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Good thing you said "literally" or I would have mistaken what you said for a figure of speech or metaphor. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

  100. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "nerd ass faggot"

    you have a family of cunts.

    You don't get to choose your family.

  101. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

    Wow, that's weird. I guess good manners and politeness are just a thing of the past for America now.

    Not all of America, but, yes, there are some exceptionally rude pockets here and there.

  102. Why? by gillbates · · Score: 5, Funny

    After having received from someone a gift that took their time and money to buy and wrap, and maybe make themselves, the last thing I would want to give in return is something that didn't cost me anything. Okay, so maybe you're also getting them a real gift. But who would install something they just found on a USB stick?

    • Your dumb user isn't going to care about FOSS, because he's already bought all of his software from Microsoft, and as far as he's concerned, that's all the software he'll ever need.
    • Upon finding Windows programs on them, the Mac user in the family will loudly speculate that he might get you a "real" computer for Christmas next year.
    • Your younger brother will tell your mother that 'ubuntu' is the African word for pornography, after which your mother will delete everything on the drive and casually mention to you that you need to update your virus scanner.
    • Your sister will ask you to reimburse her for "crashing" her computer after her 5 year old found the drive, plugged it into the computer, and inadvertently installed Ubuntu over Windows. And she's going to be forever mad that the only copy of her wedding video went with it.
    • Most of your relatives will be a little perplexed, because they can't really appreciate the gift at first. Most of them didn't bring their computers, and even the ones that did have better things to do that troll through a collection of software they could just download from the internet anyway.
    • A three year old will find one and admire the shiny plastic. A fate which will not bother the original recipient the least - hey, at least someone appreciates your Christmas gift.
    • Your Grandpa will mistake it for candy and spend Christmas night in the emergency room while panicked relatives try to figure out if it the cover is missing because Grandpa swallowed it, or it never had one in the first place.
    --
    The society for a thought-free internet welcomes you.
    1. Re:Why? by POTSandPANS · · Score: 1

      Your sister will ask you to reimburse her for "crashing" her computer after her 5 year old found the drive, plugged it into the computer, and inadvertently installed Ubuntu over Windows. And she's going to be forever mad that the only copy of her wedding video went with it.

      Too bad the USB stick she got for christmas had a bunch of stuff on it. She could have backed that video up or something..

  103. Send them a blank drive that's really blank by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just bought four SanDisk USB drives, in original packaging, at Costco. I had to clean them of junk before using them. They even had autorun files and some kind of installer.

    Send the guy an empty drive that's really empty. That's a real gift today.

    1. Re:Send them a blank drive that's really blank by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 5, Funny

      I just bought four SanDisk USB drives, in original packaging, at Costco. I had to clean them of junk before using them. They even had autorun files and some kind of installer. Send the guy an empty drive that's really empty. That's a real gift today.

      That's an especially fun gift for computer security professional. Since they'll never believe the drive is actually *empty*, you've given them a fun game where they try to figure out how you hid the malware. Everybody wins.

  104. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You don't get to choose your family.

    But you do get to choose which ones live :D

  105. GIMP, Blender and Friends? by westlake · · Score: 1

    Stick OO.o on there of course. And Firefox, Chrome, etc. And why not Gimp, Blender, and friends. All run Windows, why not spread em around. Will everyone use them? Probably not, but a few might and those that don't can just hit delete.

    They have a browser.

    The odds are very good they also have an office suite with which they are comfortable.

    The learning curve for GIMP and Blender is alpine.

  106. What *not* to give them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't give them *BSD. After all, BSD is dying.

    It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming close on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a cockeyed miracle could save *BSD from its fate at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying

  107. Re:Best advice you can get. Get them gifts they wa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    either give a gift that you actually think they would like or don't bother

    Which is why you should probably stick to FOSS games. Most people love casual games, so why not give them the gift of Frozen Bubble? Just make sure to package it for easy installation on Windows -- that would even count as a small DIY project.

  108. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Extrapolating two very personal anecdotes to 300 million people might be a little presumptuous.

    Be it adult or child, behavior like any of that would put you on my families shit-list for a good long time. Were I to say something like that to my family when I was a kid, I've have felt the repercussions immediately... and painfully.

  109. Portable Apps Are What You Want.... by mlauzon · · Score: 2

    I posted the following to this same exact post that Jeng did:

    http://slashdot.org/submission/1854046/good-useful-free-software

    For some reason, this post was posted again, and edited, not sure why. But here was my answser to the original question:

    You have many different portable application suites to choose from:

    PortableApps.com (seems to be the most popular):
    http://portableapps.com/

    LiberKey (is somewhat new, and hasn't been around all that long, but it's catching up to PortableApps.com):
    http://liberkey.com/en.html

    I've never heard of the following two, so you may want to check them out anyway:

    Pendriveapps:
    http://www.pendriveapps.com/

    winPenPack:
    http://www.winpenpack.com/main/news.php

  110. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think that the analogy was very apt. Your response to this is exactly the same as the religious zealots who get genuinely suprised when people don't react well to their helpful teachings. "But surely everyone wants to know they are loved by God!"

    Like it or not, open source software is as much a philosophy as it is a collection of useful software. It certainly feels to the recipient like you are proselytising even if it seems to the giver as providing useful software. Then you have the big problem for ordinary people that giving away free software as presents is like coming in with plastic bags full of air.

  111. Re:Trinidad & Tobago Computer Society OSSWIN C by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is an excellent link. You should be modded up. TTCS++

  112. Free Games from my dial-up days by Zaldarr · · Score: 1

    Back in the day of screeching phone lines, I trawled through mound and mounds of freeware games. As Sturgeon's Law dictated, 95% of them were crap, however I found a fair few gems in the steaming piles of software. First stop should be vertigogaming.net, where you will find the most delightful puzzler Acidbomb - all of his other free stuff is good, but that is by far the best. Also, have a search for a brilliant game-maker called Darthlupi at http://db.tigsource.com/developers/darthlupi Then stop by fullyramblomatic.com and download 5 Days a Stranger, 7 Days a Sacrifice, Trilby's Notes and 6 Days a Sacrifice - best adventure series I have ever played. Also there is the delightful stealth platformer The Art of Theft on that site as well. THIS also. http://www.reloaded.org/download/A-Blurred-Line/269/ There are more but I will stop here. Happy gaming!

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    I write professional videogame reviews! http://www.digitallydownloaded.net/
  113. Re:Best advice you can get. Get them gifts they wa by aristotle-dude · · Score: 0

    either give a gift that you actually think they would like or don't bother

    Which is why you should probably stick to FOSS games. Most people love casual games, so why not give them the gift of Frozen Bubble? Just make sure to package it for easy installation on Windows -- that would even count as a small DIY project.

    Sorry but no, that does not count as a DYI project. Frozen Bubble does not have a high degree of replay value for someone who is not a FOSS Zealot. It is not even an original game but rather a penguin themed cheap knock off of the Bust-a-Move (Puzzle Bobble) arcade game from 1994. Even the original game does not have a lot of replay value today.

    The gift is supposed to be for the "other" person, not the gift giver. So with that in mind, the giver should try to please the recipient rather than themselves.

    --
    Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
  114. Tribes 2 ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... is free.

  115. Book: "Where There is no Doctor" by fishing · · Score: 1

    Available for free download from Hesperian in many different languages, it's an excellently thought-out medical guide that anyone can get benefit from.

    http://weblife.org/pdf/where_there_is_no_doctor.pdf

  116. If they're musically inclined... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linux Multi-Media Studio (LMMS) - Not just a Linux version despite the name, but also in Win32. A semi-kludged OS-X version can also be found if you look hard enough. Very easy to learn & use. (Also includes ZynAddSubFX, which is amazing in its own right.)

    Audacity - Recording and editing audio tracks. I'd be surprised if they didn't have this already though. All major OSs supported.

    Lame MP3 (for Audacity) - So you can export to MP3 from Audacity. Thus you can share with friends w/o huge audio files.

    Ardour - Not as easy as to learn from the start as LMMS, but perhaps much more in-depth given the current stage of development. Linux, BSD, OS-X. Still no Windows though.

    Traverso - Multi-track editor similar to Audacity.

    There's also a whole bunch of free soundfonts and VSTis for the digital audio workstations, but I'll leave those up to you.

  117. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 1

    And everyone hates receiving... You've spent $20 to give them $20, but you've tied their hands about where they can spend it. There's nothing more infuriating than a giftcard for a store which doesn't sell anything you want.

    (upshot: give cash)

    --
    FGD 135
  118. Non-open source by binkzz · · Score: 1

    Most people are suggesting open source apps and games, but there are some really good closed source ones as well:

    Spelunky(okay this one's open source)
    Cave Story Fantastic platform game.
    Trackmania Nations Great multiplayer and single player racing game.
    Urban Terror The graphics are a little dated, but the gameplay is still really, really good. Online multiplayer team based FPS.

    --
    'For we walk by faith, not by sight.' II Corinthians 5:7
  119. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by rapidreload · · Score: 0

    If you're trying to spread the news about Free Software, the only effective way to do it is to SHOW them.

    Careful though. Most decent open-source software is actually a clone of some proprietary software (the proprietary software often being better anyway), and hence if you show off something like LibreOffice, GIMP, SuperTuxKart or anything else that is clearly a knock-off of a well-known proprietary package, you're going to have that pointed out to you. Once this happens you cannot really get away from that, because it then suggests to the person the idea that open-source software is just a series of copycats of the "real" stuff... which I have to admit is a very common truth.

    As for multiple desktops, I can think of three free virtual desktop programs for Windows (two of which integrated nicely with Windows 7) such that a person does not need to give up the wide range of premium software you'd find in Windows and can still enjoy Linux-style desktops. Better to stay where the software is, learn how to empower yourself and fill in the gaps when possible, than give it all up for a 1% OS.

    --
    To all newcomers - people here are very close-minded and can't handle complaints about Linux. Keep this in mind.
  120. God wills it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they're into games, Iji and Cave Story.

  121. A List of FOSS programs by gringer · · Score: 1

    Here's my list:

    http://user.interface.org.nz/~gringer/iopencd/browser/home.html

    Which reminds me... I should update that CD and replace OpenOffice with Libreoffice.

    --
    Ask me about repetitive DNA
  122. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by syousef · · Score: 2

    First off, your relatives suck for not even having the common decency of feigning appreciation. Second, this was a learning experience. I was planning on doing this same thing this year for Christmas. Now it's off to buy giftcards: something I hate doing.

    I refuse to buy gift cards. Fuck that. If they want a gift card I'll give them cash with one I printed myself and a suggestion on where they MIGHT use it if they so choose. Do you have any idea how many of those things end up not being used before they expire!? And how many more because companies file for bankruptcy or get bought out. Fuck that shit. Giving the gift of becoming an unsecured creditor I may as well flush the money.

    --
    These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
  123. Some free music as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You might want to send them some open music as well
    http://www.jamendo.com/

    while many people are familiar with the open software, many are surprised to find a similar concept in music

  124. Pick software according to the recipient by BobDowling · · Score: 1

    If you are giving more than one person a flash drive like this then the thing to do is to pick software according to their tastes and then enhance it with some extras appropriate for the software.

    Are they a budding graphic designer, or are they someone who likes doodling? If that was the case i would support the idea of getting them Inkscape, but I would add some extras to go with it. Download a sequence of tutorials or worked example videos for example, so they can start using it and have fun at the same time.

    Have they commented about wanting to learn to program? Python, plus downloads or the examples and exercises from a tutorial course so that they don't have to do all that themselves.

    In essence I would take a single program for each recipient and "boost" it with some selected extras.

    --
    Those who do not learn from Dilbert are doomed to repeat it.
  125. tuxguitar for guitarplayers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tuxguitar is good for tablature.

  126. Lupo PenSuite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Lupo PenSuite v6.75 Full"
    might be a good choice as it has many, many, useful utilities in a compact grouping.

  127. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Nemetz · · Score: 1

    If you're trying to spread the news about Free Software, the only effective way to do it is to SHOW them. Most of the people whom I've converted to Linux did so after watching me use KDE (formerly) and Gnome (more recently).

    I second this, the few people that show me some interest about linux had done this for little things of interest after watching my desktop. For example, a coworker tried linux after he saw some of my xfce screensavers (cow bouncing, pacman played by the computer, etc). Came for the screensaver, stayed for the free stuff.

  128. Go to http://portableapps.com/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey dude you answer is in here:

    http://portableapps.com/

    All portable applications that can be copied on a pendrive!

    Regards!

  129. Great idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can look at that project:
    http://www.theopendisc.com/latest-version/

  130. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by starmonkey · · Score: 2

    If you're trying to spread the news about Free Software, the only effective way to do it is to SHOW them. Most of the people whom I've converted to Linux did so after watching me use KDE (formerly) and Gnome (more recently). The multiple desktops are absolutely intriguing to a power user; it won't be long before he/she starts thinking, "hmmm ... I could use that." The fact that you're not playing "whack-a-mole" with a dozen pop ups each time you boot is impressive, too, as is the fact that, with a good distro, updates are centralized, controlled and politely done, with rarely a need to reboot.

    This is exactly how I became interested in Linux. Then, I tried it, and none of my plug-and-play devices worked, and I was expected to write my own drivers or stop complaining, and I went back to Windows. Windows 7 is the best Windows so far. I am fully satisfied with it. I run Debian in VirtualBox as a coding environment.

  131. May I whore my own link? by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 1

    My piano album at http://www.geometricvisions.com/music/

    It has the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license as well as the scores to two of the songs if they play themselves.

    --
    Request your free CD of my piano music.
  132. Re: A gift is an opportunity ... by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

    The point about giving is that the recipient should actually (ideally) want the item they receive. It shouldn't be used as a platform for promoting your own opinions of what you think that person should have, and presuming that you know better than they do what software they should use.

    While giving tech is never the best gift if the individual in question is not technically orientated (and if they are, they're perfectly capable of deciding for themselves what free stuff to d/l), the OP should at least demonstrate some degree of sensitivity and make the gift relevant to each of the recipients. Otherwise you might as well just give each of them a box of batteries as a socking filler - utilitarian, completely impersonal, cheap and more likely to get used than any strange software.

    --
    politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
  133. Re:Trinidad & Tobago Computer Society OSSWIN C by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This might be one of the best choices if he really wants to give software. It may also open up a nice side discussion about exotic Trinidad & Tobago. :)

  134. My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I typically give people concerts or music from my collection recorded on dvd+r.

  135. PortableApps AND Kaspersky Rescue Disk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I couldn't reccomend this more.

    I actually have a portable apps pen drive attached to my key chain, so it's always with me.

    Also, I could suggest making the drive bootable with Kaspersky Rescue Disk, while not exactly open source, it's free to use and very good (for the price).

    This way, every time they call you for "OMFGBBQ I HAVE A VIRUS!!11!!1" (you're the tech guy, right?), you just explain how to boot it and you'll be as awesome, spending much less time ;)

  136. You might go with LoLiDisk as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LoLiWin

  137. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by IANAAC · · Score: 2

    And everyone hates receiving... You've spent $20 to give them $20, but you've tied their hands about where they can spend it. There's nothing more infuriating than a giftcard for a store which doesn't sell anything you want.

    (upshot: give cash)

    I don't have that many relatives left, but they know that an Amazon.com gift card is always appreciated by me, so that's what I usually get. Frankly, that's probably the perfect gift for me.

  138. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Stevecrox · · Score: 1

    This is a good idea, I don't understand giving away a usb stick. They tend to be secondary things e.g. giving someone a digital photo frame with some family photo's on it.

    The gift of a USB stick with OSS on it seems very generic and not really very thoughtful. I always thought the point of Christmas was to show you care about someone by taking the time to think up a gift/gifts tailored to them. For example one of my little sisters never used to read recreationally and I would tease her about it. This year she hasn't been able to put a book down and is also a huge fan of Harry Potter so I'm getting her the Harry Potter Special Edition book set.

    I appreciate people have budgets, heck of all the things I gave my Dad last Christmas the £5 survival kit is one of the things he goes on about the most. It doesn't have to be expensive just bought with that person in mind.

  139. Personal things by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1
    Get some pictures from your family and friends - put together a slide show - maybe mix in some favorite music. Ad some personal thoughts throughout. Make it with the free software you put on the disk - not only will they have something they can remember, but they will see what the software can do.

    .

    Just, for God's sake, don't turn it into one of those "what I did last year and why my little darling is so perfect" letters you always seem to get during the holidays.

    --
    I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
  140. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right, because wine and virtualbox are somehow not good enough to run windows software.

    Better to stay where the viruses are, where the system takes twice the resources it needs, where the providing company has a history of illegal activity, where bugs take years to get fixed, where if you don't like OS-feature-X too bad.

    You'd be amazed at how many people are using linux. And if you are in the server world, Unix is pretty much where it's at.

  141. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Patch86 · · Score: 1

    I see all software (open source included) as a tool. You have it to do something. If it does something a person wants, they'll like it.

    My parents' old desktop PC recently died an electrical death. They own a laptop, but my mum in particular says she prefers a desktop PC for doing proper office work on. So we rifled through our collective back catalogue of computing odds and sods, and I built them a new Frankenstein's computer. It being of very old pedigree, and them already owning a Windows 7 laptop, I decided to pop Xubuntu on it (which is of course loaded full of open source software). My parents love it for what it is; not because they're suddenly Linux enthusiasts, but because it works a treat, is free, and they find it satisfying to reuse hardware that would barely run XP. They like it because it's a tool that works.

    I wouldn't want open source software as a Xmas gift. I like Open Office (or Libre Office nowadays) because it works for me. I like sparkplugs- I own a bunch of sparkplugs (inside my car). I am pleased with the existence of these sparkplugs, and will buy them again if ever I need to. But that doesn't mean I want sparkplugs as a stocking filler this year...

  142. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by iamhassi · · Score: 1

    Wow seems your family is really ungrateful, but honestly I rarely use my usb drive. Only time I use the drive is when I'm trying to fix someone's PC that doesn't have internet because if they had Internet I'd just download whatever files I needed.

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    my karma will be here long after I'm gone
  143. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That actually makes sense, sorry someone labeled you as troll

  144. Watch out for the Aspie downmod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Trying to explain the social aspects of gift-giving to Aspies is nigh impossible. To top it off, you are insinuating that the object of their systemizing perseverations is not generally considered a welcomed gift.

    Better to just leave them to their own devices. They won't notice the weird/puzzled/disgusted facial expressions on the recipients' faces anyway; they will thus conclude that their gift + 15 minute rant about OSS philosophy was The Best Gift *evar*! They will then return here to report "success" to their echo chamber.

    So, while I appreciate your valiant effort, I'm afraid it's inevitably a futile exercise.

  145. portableapps.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    has lot of good stuff done up to run off the usb stick instead of having to be installed.

    sysinternals has nice system tools

  146. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by ubrgeek · · Score: 1

    No. Marking them as a thing of the past would be if I was so uncouth as to tell you to go F-off, you xenophobic turd. Or to point out the sheer volume of places I've been on many continents with people who either made overly broad statements about how Americans no longer have manners or the populace seemed to have rudeness and/or a lack of tact embedded in their culture. Either of those would indicate good manners and politeness were a thing of the past. I'm just glad my parents raised me better than that.

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    Bark less. Wag more.
  147. Fill the drives with music, pics and video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Filling the drive with select data (free music, pictures and videos) would be much more tasteful than filling it with free software. Especially during the holidays, people would have trouble appreciating utilities because utilities basically equate to work. Give them something they can relax to that you don't have to worry about crashing (such as a poorly maintained program).

  148. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The ones that they own? Yeah, likely. The ones that they don't own? Likely they'll see value in a free program that does basically what they'd have used the pay-for one to do. Photoshop ain't cheap.

  149. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by electrosoccertux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A few years ago, I gave my friends and family gifts like this. They each got a 256 MB USB stick with Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice.org and some other open source software I thought they might find useful. Well, they didn't appreciate it at all.

    Right after getting it, one of my nieces threw it back at me, calling it useless, and then she called me a "nerd ass faggot". I found out later that her brothers deleted everything on theirs without even bothering to try them.

    My older relatives had no idea at all what they were. Some of them thought they were supposed to put them on their keychains, as decorations!

    I'm not sure who, but some of my relatives didn't even bother to bring them home with them after they left the Christmas gathering. I found several of them lying on the floor after everyone had left for the night.

    I hoped it would be a learning experience for them, but it was really a learning experience for me. Most people don't give a fuck about open source software. They just don't care. And they surely don't want to receive it as a gift.

    the problem is you were trying to give a gift that you liked, not one they liked.
    Any normal person would see this. We don't.
    This is how far slashdot is disconnected from the real world.

  150. Re:OK, I'm paranoid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which destroys all of the "thoughtful touches" the OP wanted to add. Anyway, you miss the point. It isn't that wiping is hard. It's that the value of the assumed gift (minus all thoughtful touches) is less than the value of my time in putting it to use.

  151. Re:OK, I'm paranoid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a difference between a device of known providence, purchased through commercial channels with at least some possibility of accountability, and something received from a person who has already displayed what I consider questionable technical judgment by giving me untrustworthy crapware on a potentially malware infested flash drive.

    Anyway, the point I raised was really more about the economics of the situation rather than technical issues in wiping media.

  152. Give them a copy of all of these slashdot posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The flash drive and software may be of very little cost, but the combined time and effort of all of these replies would be quite expensive even at a minimum wage. The amount of value would be questionable.

  153. Here's a good collection of free software . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society offers their open source Windows CD in an ISO image for free. You could burn a copy to a disc then just copy it all to a USB stick since the menu is just HTML and it links to the various programs. They built installers for the programs that didn't have a regular Windows installer. It has enough information to help the newbie install any of the programs in the collection.

    Yes, it's in English. Here's where you get it:

    http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-cd/

    Here's what's in the collection (forgive the formatting issues):

    âDesktop Applications
    â--¦OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 free office productivity suite (word processor, spreadsheet, presentations) compatible with all major office suites
    â--¦AbiWord 2.8.6 Free Word processing program similiar to commercial products
    â--¦GanttProject 2.0.10 Gantt chart based project scheduling and management tool
    â--¦Grisbi 0.6.0 personal finance manager
    â--¦7-Zip 9.20 file archiver with high compression ratio.
    â--¦Rainlendar 0.22.1 displays skinnable calendar on your desktop
    â--¦Notepad++ 5.8.7 text editor with special features for coders
    â--¦Notepad2 3.0.21 text editor with the look and feel of Notepad but with more features
    â--¦Sumatra PDF 1.3 slim, portable, Free and Open Source Software PDF viewer for Windows.
    â--¦WinMerge 2.12.4 WinMerge is a Win32 tool for visual difference display and merging, for both files and directories.
    â--¦ConvertAll 0.5.0 Unit Conversion program
    â--¦GTD TiddlyWiki Plus 2.1.3 complete wiki contained in a single HTML file.
    â--¦Wikidpad 2.0 Wiki-like notebook for storing anything you can think of to write down
    â--¦TreeLine 1.2.4 store your data in a tree structure to keep things organised
    âEducational
    â--¦GraphCalc 4.0.1 an enhanced calculator application that can solve equations
    â--¦Tux Paint 0.9.21c Tux Paint is a free drawing program designed for children
    â--¦Tux Typing 2 1.8.1 "Tux Typing" is an educational typing tutor for children
    â--¦TuxMath 1.9.0 "Tux, of Math Command" is an educational typing tutor for children
    â--¦Celestia 1.6.0 space simulation to explore the universe in any direction
    â--¦Stellarium 0.10.6.1 Map the night sky on your computer
    â--¦Maxima 5.23.2 A sophisticated computer algebra system
    â--¦Childsplay 1.5.1 a 'suite' of educational games for young children
    â--¦The Babbleback Machine 1.0 Records and Playback voice game
    âGames
    â--¦Kobo Deluxe 0.5.1 space ship "shoot-them-up" style game
    â--¦FloboPuyo 0.20 Clone of the famous PuyoPuyo
    â--¦Anagramarama 0.2 Create as many words from the given letters
    â--¦Portable Puzzle Collection r9083 collection of small one-player puzzle games
    â--¦Sokoban YASC 1.554 Yet Another Sokoban Clone - for Windows
    â--¦Pang Zero 1.3 fast paced action game that involves popping balloons with a harpoon.
    â--¦Armagetron Advanced 0.2.8.3.1 action game modeled after the lightcycle sequence of the movie Tron ; supports multiplayer over LAN
    â--¦pouetChess 0.1.1 3D chess
    â--¦Space Invaders OpenGL 0.6.1 An OpenGL version of the classic arcade game
    â--¦FooBillard 3.0 OpenGL-based billiards (pool) game with realistic physics, AI-player and many gametypes such as pool carambol or snooker.
    âGraphics
    â--¦GIMP 2.6.11 bitmap editor suitable for photo retouching, image composition and image authoring.
    â--¦Pinta 0.6 Simple image and photo editing tool for Windows
    â--¦Blender 2.49b 3D modeling, animation, rendering application
    â--¦Dia 0.97.1-1 A diagram creation program program similiar to "Visio"
    â--¦My Photo Index 1.24.35

  154. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by WhatAreYouDoingHere · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure that I get it. At least you didn't call it an emulator ;)

    --
    "What are you doing here, Elijah?"
  155. Great gift - old pictures by nategasser · · Score: 2

    This is a great idea, especially for older people. My parents (who at their age don't really need anything) got a single photograph from a long-moved-away neighbor in the mail recently. It was of my sister and I in their backyard, playing with their kids. My mom was over the moon. I've heard about that photo like 5 times in the last month.

    If you've got an old picture of somebody else, that you suspect they don't have, make a nice copy of it and give it to them this Christmas/Hanukkah. It'll restore your faith in "it's the thought that counts" which will be as big a gift to you as to them.

  156. Old DOS games? by MattBD · · Score: 2

    How about a copy of DOSBox and a load of old DOS games? There are numerous sites where you can get abandonware or shareware games.

  157. Support by Fnord666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My only suggestion would be to choose your apps carefully. After all, you are going to be supporting them for the next five years!

    --
    'The tyrant will always find pretext for his tyranny.' - Aesop's Fables
  158. Re:Forget software, give 'em free videos. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eh, I very much doubt the author cares to admit it.

  159. exact audio copy by apcullen · · Score: 1

    The I think are most useful for windows users would be 7-zip libre office exact audio copy / lame And maybe VLC too. I'm surprised nobody's mentioned EAC before. It's incredibly useful for those of us who still have some old, scratched CDs around.

  160. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

    I occasionally work with a "public service" office that makes little flyers and similar things for families that need them. They get sporadic grant money and have a few old Macs that they do their word processing on, but they need to communicate with families outside the office that mostly don't have Macs, and usually don't have the money for MS Word, either. I introduced them to Open Office as a solution to their copy-pasting of stuff in and out of e-mails. It was a hard sell, they were worried it would hurt their computer, etc. etc. and, they would never presume to ask any of the families outside to install such a thing on their own computer.

    Even when you "spread the word for good," and not just idealogical reasons, there is resistance.

  161. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by C_me_glow · · Score: 1

    If you are going to employ the referential term "nigger" please balance your sentiment by also using the referential term "cracker." Cultural pluralism in our day-to-day lexicon is a community effort.

  162. Mother and Earthbound by tepples · · Score: 1

    Let me know when Mother and its sequel Earthbound are on VC.

  163. Back when PSP stood for Paint Shop Pro by tepples · · Score: 1

    Or maybe the gap between Photoshop and Paint-replacement is large enough for a program to fit in-between them...

    I'm a GIMP fan, but I know there are GIMP haters out there who might claim that Photoshop Elements or Paint Shop Pro fits in this gap better than GIMP does.

    1. Re:Back when PSP stood for Paint Shop Pro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I loved GIMP until this weekend. I convinced my fiance to switch from her old photo software to GIMP, because her software only displayed pixels and not inches. GIMP was great until she tried to print. Guess what! GIMP displays inches fine, but there's bugs in the GTK toolkit and so it prints too small. Both Windows and Linux versions were impossible to get to print right. Google searches showed this was a known bug and GIMP programmers blame GTK and GTK programmers don't care if things print right in GIMP. So I look like an idiot now and I'm not about to push open source like I used to.

  164. containers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is the difference between giving a drive with free software and giving some nice jars with food you poured in? I can't believe the naysayers here. 'What? You made that jam yourself and it took hours? I can get that on sale for a few bucks.' If the nice container - of data or food - is reusable whether you care about the contents is less important than whether you could get it free/cheaper elsewhere. I don't dis my grandmother for taking cheap yarn and making a sweater that I can get at goodwil for cheap. Someone thought of me- liked me enough to give a gift - and thought eough about me to think 'they can use this' Go nuts I say. Just because someone CAN get something for free doesn't mean any less if they didn't know it existed or had never knew which ones might be worthwhile without your advice. Sheesh.

  165. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how many people didn't read the "stocking stuffers" part and just decided to bash this guy.

  166. LyX word processor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The lyx word processor, because everybody writes now and then - and lyx provides better-looking output than the alternatives.
    Works for any os, mac/windows/linux. It is a big install because it uses latex as a backend, so texlive is needed too.

    www.lyx.org

  167. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by rueger · · Score: 1

    *Slightly* off topic, but let's face it: you'd do something like that because, deep down inside (if nothing else), you're hoping they'll fire up the software on that USB stick and say, "wow! And it's free??? Gimme some more o' dis!"

    More likely deep down inside he's too cheap or lazy to actually go buy a gift.

  168. Rockbox is a must. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gimp and some great plugins like layer effects, gmic, and maybe mathmap. This makes the program as powerful as most commercial paint programs.
    Rockbox. It's custom firmware for a variety of mp3 players. Check if your relatives have compatible players first. It makes most players much better than their native firmware supporting formats like flac, ogg, nsf, and many others. It also has games, utilities, and fully customizable ui.
    OpenOffice or equivalent favorite "open" office suite.
    Monsterz is a bejeweled clone and it's pretty good.

    Don't worry about the naysayers. Anyone complaining about open-source software nowadays probably lacks the ability to plug in a usb stick.

  169. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by PCM2 · · Score: 1

    I don't think it's self-serving insofar as it's still a USB key. If one of my friends gave me something like this, I'd probably already be using half the software and I'd have a newer version, too. But so what? I don't mind getting another USB key.

    Besides, he said it was a "stocking stuffer"... he didn't say he was going to put it in a ten-by-ten box with a bow on it and leave it in the driveway like he was giving them a car.

    --
    Breakfast served all day!
  170. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't be ridiculous. No member of a nigger family is smart enough to post on Slashdot, and no one outside of a nigger family cares about niggers enough to try to improve their lives.

  171. Bad gift idea by utkonos · · Score: 1

    You are basically giving the person a list of software. This is a stupid idea for a gift. A gift needs time and thought. If you want to give free software as a gift, then why not arrange a time with the recipient to meet with them and install it for them, then show them how to work it.

    Better than giving them a flash drive with a bunch of things that they will probably delete before using the drive to store mp3s.

  172. Celestia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Celestia is a great program - it is an astronomy program that lets you view all kinds of objects from many perspectives in great detail and with many options....
    There is another program called WINSTARS - which is also good.

  173. Useful Freeware... by Shirshasin · · Score: 1

    What we use our beloved Personal Computer For ?

    1) Net Surfing, Chatting, E-Mail, Downloads/Uploads, Torrents.
    2) Viewing/Managing Archive/PDF files and Pictures.
    3) Listening/Viewing Audio/Video, Burning CD/DVD.
    4) General Office Applications like Word Processing, Spreadsheet, Presentation Graphics, Database, Drawing, etc.
    5) Managing Calendar, Contacts, To Do list, Notes and Schedules.
    6) We also use utilities for cleaning repairing Windows registry and file system, Anti-Virus, and Anti-Spyware.

    Here is my answer. These are free software one should get after a fresh install of Windows or anytime for that matter...
    1) Net Surfing, Chatting, E-Mail, Downloads/Uploads, Torrents.
    Net Surfing : Firefox. Install NoScript and AdBlock Plus for increased security in Firefox. (Others Chrome, and Opera).
    Chatting/IM : Gtalk, and Meebo (Others Pidgin, Skype, and Google Wave).
    E-Mail : Thunderbird With Lightning. (Others Edora ).
    Downloads : Orbit Downloader. (Others GigaGet and Free Download Manager).
    Uploads : Core FTP LE. (Others FileZilla ).
    Torrents : uTorrent. (Others Vuze ).
    Plug-in/Add-on/Extension : Flash(IE), Flash (Non IE), Silverlight, Shockwave Player, Google Toolbar, .Net Framework, Java Runtime Environment, Visual C++ Runtime, and DirectX.
    2) Viewing/Managing Archive/PDF/E-Book files, Pictures and CD/DVD burning.
    Managing PDF : Adobe Reader. (Others Foxit Reader )
    E-Book Reader : FBREader And Amazon Kindle for PC.
    Archive Manager : 7-Zip. ( Others PeaZip).
    Picture Manager : Irfanview (With PlugIns). (Others XnView and Picassa).
    CD/DVD burning : CDBurnerXP. (Others ImgBurn, Deep Burner, and Explore&Burn)
    3) Listening/Viewing Audio/Video. VLC Player
    (Others The KM Player, QuickTime Player, RealPlayer, Winamp, DivX Play, and Audacity). You can also use K-Lite Codec Pack which will enable Windows Media Player to play every kind of Audio & Video file.
    4) General Office Applications. LibreOffice From Document Foundation.
    (Others OpenOffice.org, Google Docs, and Lotus Symphony ).
    5) Managing Calendar, Contacts, To Do list, Notes and Schedules : Thunderbird With Lightning.
    6) Utilities :
    Cleaner/Optimizer : CCleaner, Defraggler, and Advanced SystemCare .
    Anti-Virus : Avast. (Others AntiVir Personal, and Comodo Internet Security).
    Anti-Spyware : SuperAntiSpyware. (Others SpyBot).
    Automatic Update Checking : Update Notifier, (Others Filehippo Update Checker.)

    Details with download links in this site - http://sites.google.com/site/shirshasin/ :)

  174. Bitcion Wallet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not free, but why not put a bitcoin wallet on each one with a few bitcoins. Give them the link to the Trade page on the wiki and let them buy what they want. www.bitcoin.org www.weusecoins.com https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade

  175. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by tjhart85 · · Score: 1

    Well, the stocking stuffer would be the USB keys and teh stuff on them is just a bonus (or something to be deleted).

  176. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by pugugly · · Score: 1

    Wow - I'd say I'd be spanked if we had tantrums like that, but more likely we'd have been made to feel stupid by having a five-year-old put in charge of us with the parents making sure we toed the line and did everything we were told to by an obviously more mature member of the family - {G}.

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    An Invisible Entity of Vast Power whose existence must be taken on faith alone: Liberal Media
  177. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by Surak_Prime · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what is supposed to be Funny about this. I'll second the bro hug, and without being an anonymous coward.

    Our family is who we choose. Blood is an accident.

    --
    :::The Spear in the heart of the Other is the Spear in the heart of You; You are He - Surak of Vulcan:::
  178. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by rapidreload · · Score: 1

    [blockquote]Right, because wine and virtualbox are somehow not good enough to run windows software.[blockquote]
    Well, they aren't. WINE introduces regressions with each new version, so who in their right mind would want to rely on WINE to run either necessary software or games without fiddling/troubleshooting? As for Virtualbox, it's slow.

    [blockquote]Better to stay where the viruses are, where the system takes twice the resources it needs, where the providing company has a history of illegal activity, where bugs take years to get fixed, where if you don't like OS-feature-X too bad.[/blockquote]
    If you're getting viruses in Windows, maybe you just don't know how to use computers properly. It's funny how the Linux zealots seem to talk about viruses the most, even though they aren't actually a concern if you employ some basic security habits. As for the rest, I find Windows 7 faster than Ubuntu 11.10, far less buggy and much more pleasant to use as a desktop OS. Illegal activity? Sure that bugs me, but using Linux is such a bad experience these days that Microsoft's behavior isn't enough to pull up with the shit that is Linux on the desktop.

    [blockquote]You'd be amazed at how many people are using linux. And if you are in the server world, Unix is pretty much where it's at.[/blockquote]
    Sure. We use Linux at work in embedded systems as well as servers. That's where Linux is strongest in - not on the desktop. But desktop software is what this fucking thread is all about moron, which is why I'm not mentioning anything else.

    --
    To all newcomers - people here are very close-minded and can't handle complaints about Linux. Keep this in mind.
  179. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by rapidreload · · Score: 1

    You're right, Photoshop ain't cheap. But it is however very easy to pirate - just download the Master Collection trial from the Adobe web site, find a key on TPB and grab a "host file" blocking script that will redirect all known Adobe activation servers to 127.0.0.1. Heck I'd do that for them and package it nicely with a series of easy instructions to follow. In the end they'll get the best tools available, they'll be part of the crowd that can "Photoshop" images rather than "GIMP" them, and they'll be none the wiser because no-one gives a shit if you give them pirated software.

    --
    To all newcomers - people here are very close-minded and can't handle complaints about Linux. Keep this in mind.
  180. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by georgesdev · · Score: 1

    thanks for sharing that with us. I'll keep this in mind.
    Maybe what should be put on those usb keys is data more than software.
    open source books.
    pictures of family event.
    videos of family events.
    software only for the guy you know is a nerve, and especially if he does not have a good Internet connection. Eclipse for your nephew starting to program, Gimp for the one into pictures and special effects. AND OFFER YOUR TIME TO INSTALL AND EXPLAIN THE SOFTWARE, THAT'S THE TRUE GIFT!

    Also, I would fill each key with things targeted to the person you're giving it to. Make it feel personal.

  181. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by admica · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what you two are on about, but wine is something you install to run windows software.

  182. Re:I gave gifts like this once. Everyone hated the by adolf · · Score: 1

    It is?

  183. Flash drive ornaments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmm, gives me an idea to either turn a flash drive into a Christmas ornament and load it with this year's memory photos, or get one of those keychain mini photo viewers loaded with the same. Each year, add a new flash drive or photo keychain to the tree.

    I'll just declare this version of a patentable idea to be in the Public Domain now.

    • Flash drive stuffed in a paper-mache ornament
    • Keychain photo frame embedded in a roundish or squarish globe
    • Add some music or recorded voices to the photo display.

    Have fun.

  184. Podcasts by virginiajim · · Score: 1

    Here's a link to a short article about podcasts which has a long list of web sites at the bottom with excellent podcasts where can find enough material to easily fill most flash drives and customize the material to the recipient: https://www.techsupportalert.com/content/speed-your-hearing.htm . (Full disclosure: I wrote the article.)

  185. PORN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there is so much to choose from. what else could anyone possibly want on a usb stick?