What are the "non-systemd distros" that are crumbling?
Well, if you could be bothered to read the article, written by some gut called "yeupou" the answer is obviously Devuan, who managed to break suspend and hibernate in KDE by packaging the wrong version of upower.
You don't need to write new code to avoid it, either switch to a distro without system
But this whole discussion is about someone who switched to a distribution without systemd and that distro, Devuan, broke his KDE. And so he made a bug report to KDE, instead of to the people who made the bug -- the "Veteran Unix Adminstrators" at Devuan.
And of those extremes "it makes everything easier" comes from the people actually doing work and "it's a short-sighted and wrong solution that's toxic for the community" comes from a bunch of trolls.
So why can't there be other systems that do the various parts that aren't init but systemd is doing?
There were until recently, apparently. Powerdevil and pm-utils. Apparently KDE preferred the systemd way, for whatever reason.
No. powerdevil uses upower to do that. upower now uses systemd. KDE has made no change whatsoever (that's why the KDE devs don't see this as a KDE bug).
You know how sometimes people complain that "systemd is monolithic?" That is what they are talking about: you can't get that stuff separately from your init system.
Yes you can. It's a SMOP. That nobody else can be bothered to do the programming isn't systemd's fault.
It's articles like these that are meant to stir climate hysteria given the fact that 1) the record only goes back to 1880 which 2) gives any day, week, month or year a very high chance of either becoming the coolest or warmest on record given how short the time frame is.
is total bollocks, the coldest months on record all happened long ago while the hottest ones are all happening now.
The M&M Critique of the MBH98 Northern Hemisphere Climate Index: Update and Implications (PDF) (Energy & Environment, Volume 16, Number 1, pp. 69-100, January 2005) - Stephen McIntyre, Ross McKitrick
Additionally Mears and Spencer don't automatically trust their results, as you pointed out, which I think means they are more objective in it's handling.
given how often they've fucked up tha's not supprising.
Why does anyone require 'due diligence' and fact-checking against insane violent assholes like these Sunni extremist fuckstains that laughingly call themselves the 'Islamic State'
Why, you're absolutely right!
That's why we've just dispatched a drone to bomb your basement. After all, there's nothing to prove you're not the evil mastermind behind ISIS.
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What are the "non-systemd distros" that are crumbling?
Well, if you could be bothered to read the article, written by some gut called "yeupou" the answer is obviously Devuan, who managed to break suspend and hibernate in KDE by packaging the wrong version of upower.
Ian Jackson is not Ian Murdock.
Ian Murdock left Debian long ago, before systemd was even written. Ian Jackson is still a Debian Developer.
You don't need to write new code to avoid it, either switch to a distro without system
But this whole discussion is about someone who switched to a distribution without systemd and that distro, Devuan, broke his KDE. And so he made a bug report to KDE, instead of to the people who made the bug -- the "Veteran Unix Adminstrators" at Devuan.
LP won't fix it.
Maybe because he's not the pulseaudio maintainer?
And of those extremes "it makes everything easier" comes from the people actually doing work and "it's a short-sighted and wrong solution that's toxic for the community" comes from a bunch of trolls.
You're talking to lunatic trolls.
systemd sends stdout/stderr where you tell it to, by default to the journal.
I.E. he has a 3 digit uid, newbie.
Saying this merely proves that you don't know what svchost.exe or systemd are.
Yii! That sounds extremely dangerous, as in local malware == root control.
I had been apathetic (disliking, but apathetic) about systemd, but now I'm thinking I should switch to something that doesn't have it.
And you'll remove the sudo(1) and su(1) commands?
So why can't there be other systems that do the various parts that aren't init but systemd is doing?
There were until recently, apparently. Powerdevil and pm-utils. Apparently KDE preferred the systemd way, for whatever reason.
No. powerdevil uses upower to do that. upower now uses systemd. KDE has made no change whatsoever (that's why the KDE devs don't see this as a KDE bug).
An init system shouldn't be doing that stuff.
Then who should?
You know how sometimes people complain that "systemd is monolithic?" That is what they are talking about: you can't get that stuff separately from your init system.
Yes you can. It's a SMOP. That nobody else can be bothered to do the programming isn't systemd's fault.
As the response to your bug report says:
This is free software: scratch your own itch. Don't expect that others scratch your itch.
Devuan doesn't support any of the interfaces that KDE needs, that can be fixed by either:
1. the KDE team adding special support for Devuan
or
2. Devuan adding any of the packages KDE needs to support power management.
RESOLVED, DOWNSTREAM seems perfectly reasonable.
I'd expect the VUA's to have a fix for Devuan in short order.
So why not mention of the fairtrade 2?
https://www.fairphone.com/2015/11/18/guest-blog-ifixit-on-fairphone-2-the-first-truly-smart-smartphone/
Get an old nexux 5, download the sailfish 2.0 image, insall it.
Wow, you mean that:
It's articles like these that are meant to stir climate hysteria given the fact that 1) the record only goes back to 1880 which 2) gives any day, week, month or year a very high chance of either becoming the coolest or warmest on record given how short the time frame is.
is total bollocks, the coldest months on record all happened long ago while the hottest ones are all happening now.
Who would have guessed it.
Strange. Nowhere in there is the word "peer" or "review".
Boy, do you know how to cut'n'paste though.
I'm following my political agenda -- a bit, anyway. But isn't that the right of the editor?
-- Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen.
had we known then how that outlet would evolve beyond 1999 we certainly wouldn’t have published there
-- Roger Pielke Jr.
It's not like they have a webpage that lists the global mean temperature for every month going back 100 years.
They don't? http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
Wow. A list of names. Where does any of that describe E&E's reviewing policy?
So, when exactly was the last coldest month on record?
The M&M Critique of the MBH98 Northern Hemisphere Climate Index: Update and Implications (PDF)
(Energy & Environment, Volume 16, Number 1, pp. 69-100, January 2005)
- Stephen McIntyre, Ross McKitrick
E&E? Peer reviewed?
Hahaha...
Additionally Mears and Spencer don't automatically trust their results, as you pointed out, which I think means they are more objective in it's handling.
given how often they've fucked up tha's not supprising.
Belgium.
Why does anyone require 'due diligence' and fact-checking against insane violent assholes like these Sunni extremist fuckstains that laughingly call themselves the 'Islamic State'
Why, you're absolutely right!
That's why we've just dispatched a drone to bomb your basement. After all, there's nothing to prove you're not the evil mastermind behind ISIS.
Fortunately, French Greens don't seem to be able to stop investment in infrastructure.
Because the airport at Notre-Dame-des-Landes, the dam at Sievens and the nuclear power plant at Plogoff were all constructed with no resistance,
Maybe you should stop commenting about things you know nothing about?
That's because the US has Greens while France doesn't. We can only dream of being 85 percent nuclear.
So, how many seats did the US Green party get in the last elections? Here in France they have 17 MP's, 12 senators and 6 MEP's.