You are right, however, about only needing to toggle bits on the registers. Back in my day, that's what we used to do. We didn't have these fancy-schmancy mark-up languages and modeling languages. Bagh.
You don't even need these bloated tools if you just steer clear of OOP programming! Does assembler have an object or a class?
(Flamebait): Why are engineers ragging on CS when they are responsible for more UI idiocy than most? Engineers tend to want to make UIs that favor the knowledgeable and competent person, not make it easy to use for anyone.
I don't know which Engineers that you're talking about, but all of the engineers that I've ever worked with couldn't even figure out how to archive and Outlook folder. I'm sure that any Sys Admins will back me up on this. Most engineers think that they are above current computer technology, hence they don't bother to learn it.
I agree with StandardDeviant. NS 4.x is very different from the other browsers. Especially NS 4.x for Linux. This is why I develop all of my html and javascript in Linux. You can pretty much be assured that if netscape renders html properly, then Mozilla and IE will.
Javascript is a completely different story. I usually end up doing my initial Javascript coding and checking/debugging in Linux/Netscape. Eventually, I turn things to Windows and use IE, because the Javascript can be interpreted completely different. Mozilla still doesn't run some Javascript properly, and I'm sticking with JavaScript 1.1.
Hey let's not forget about Day-Nursing Care for our grandparents! I don't want my techie-grandson runnING off To his fancy schmancy day job without dropping me off at the home on the way.
If you kids knew what was good for you, then you'd all get jobs that have day-care for your elders.
Bagh, Kasporav is a young whippersnapper that deserved to get beat by that computing machine.
Back in my day, everyone knew who the real chess champion was. Capablanca was he! Capablanca didn't study fancy schmancy hyper-modern openings. He just say down and beat anyone he played, for 8 full years, he didn't lose a game! Until some young mathematician whippersnapper named Reti came along and hosed him with that fancy schmancy hyper-modern hogwash.
I may be an angry old man who rambles too much, but you need to understand that real chess players use the King's gambit and occupy hte center with their pieces.
Bagh! All you kids think that you are developing 'new' technology with all your fancy schmancy 'speed changing CPUs'.
Back in my day, we had computers that ran at different speeds. They had a TURBO button. The computer that I'm typing this on runs at an adequate 40 MHz. When I have to do some computing or send a document to the printer, then I press the TURBO button and the document gets queued in the printer at a blazing 55 MHz.
This computer is as fast as you need once it's in Turbo mode and it's over 10 years old!
Bagh. Back in my day we didn't need any fancy schmancy armed robotic guards.
If we had something to protect, then we hired a real honest human being to protect it. All you kids nowadays need to sit back behind the safety of a kiosk and do your dirty work. Show some integrity and respect and go out there and shoot your own damn intruders.
You kids are going to get your robotic gaurd confused with Slash from Quick 3 or Quack 3, or whatever and then go on a rampage shooting everyone in sight. Those damn bleeding hearts will then blame society and video games for your misunderstanding of reality.
Please, go out and find an honest job and gaurd your possessions without robotic assistance.
Bagh!! Back in my day we didn't have all of these fancy schmancy cubicles.
If we were of worth to the company which we worked for, then we were given an office. That's right a real office complete with walls, door, and ceiling. In order to avoid flourescent lights, we would shut of the overhead lights and then use lamps.
Nowadays, all you touchy feely young start-up kids need to have 'cubicles' and an open working environment. This is an obvious result of too many drugs and too much free-sex in the sixties. I say Bagh!! I'm not bothered by ringing phones and flourescent lights in my office, unless they are mine.
If you want to fix your lighting problem, young Alex, then I suggest you get a job working for a nice respectable company that uses offices.
No. But, you don't need that you young kid. Back in my day, we didn't implant our Palm Pilots into our palms. We didn't ask for very powerful portable computers either. I used my 2 bit calculator watch to calculate fancy numbers and I liked it.
All you kids don't need fancy schmancy portable devices. Just relax and sit down at a desk to do your computing. For real computing, punch up a punch of cards and go down to the nearest VAX building!
Bagh. Don't any of you kids see what this has the potential of doing?
It'll take video game graphics processing off of the graphics card and put it back on the main CPU, where it should be. Back in my day all of the graphics was rendered in the CPU before sending the data to the graphics card. This usually resulted in a respectable frame rate of 1-3 frames per second, not that fancy schmancy 100 FPS that all you kids think you need for a good time.
Since these disrespectable silicon valley hardware companies want to allow cheating with there cards, more and more graphics rendering will have to take place on the main processor. That's a step backwards.
To respond to UnknownSoldier's comment and a few other comments too, I have been using CAD systems since before CAD systems were made and you are wrong about rendering speeds. There are 2 different wireframe styles of rendering. The first is called 'wireframe' and it displays all edges in the entire FOV with no shading. It is always faster then fully shaded rendering. The second type of wireframe rendering is called 'line-clipping' and it is always slower then fully shaded rendering. This is because it is mathematically complicated to determine where to start and end lines. Line clipping looks like wireframe, except that you can't see wires behind other objects.
All that hogwash about graphics cards only using triangles is utter nonsense. Triangles and polygons are used for benchmarking purposes, but there are NO graphics cards that only use shaded triangles for 3D rendering.
Nowadays, it seems like you need 80 GB of storage just to store all that bloated young hippy-kid software that they write in Silicon Valley. Back in my day, programmers were upstanding individuals who would optimize code and only include neccessary features into applications. Entire OS's fit on a single floppy along side word processors and games! Nowadays, fancy schmany MS Word is huge, and it does useless things such as fighting with me over capital letters and nagging me about grammar.
Now there's a young'n with some sense! He cares about the Slashdot forum so much that he's willing to valiantly put aside his karma for the betterment of others.
Back in my day, hardware was required for music, books, journals, magazines, and movies (practically speaking, of course). Nowadays, every piece of information can be stored in a digital format, free of physical existance and easily copied, deleted, and consumed. I'm preaching to the choor here, but information is fundamentally free. In the past, that fact was hidden behind all of the CDs, books, tapes, and paper, but now we can finally consume it as it was meant to be: in it's non-physical form.
For once, I fear the established companies more then the fresh startups because, the established companies have more resources in which to keep information from spreading. They will continue to encrypt media, sue for copyright infringment, do whatever else they can. The younger companies can't afford those kind of protections yet.
I may be an angry old man, but for once I agree with all you young punks that think you can just copy music and movies to your heart's content. Now, where was it that I could find a copy of DeCSS...
bagh. Back in my day, we didn't have all these high priced trademarks and logos.
If we had a company and we wanted name recognition, we developed a good product! That's right, nowadays all these lazy Silicon Valley or Redmond WA kids can't come up with QUALITY to save their unproductive lives, so they invest a ton of money in a fancy schmancy trademark or a logo.
If these kids worked hard for quality instead of recognition, we wouldn't have all these legal disputes and overpaid lawyers.
Do you young'ns know the story behind The Real McCoy? Here's a little bit of the story from a 3rd grader. What she doesn't say is that others' copies of the lubricating cup were of low quality, so everyone always asked for 'the real McCoy's cup'. It's an example of good quality trademark being more sought after then well placed and superficial trademarks.
Pay attention here. The new X Desktop is pronounced "X" as in "X marks the spot." But the X in Mac OS X is pronounced "10." Got that? Okay, X Desktop will purportedly not only allow remote X applications to be displayed on the Mac OS X desktop, but will also include complete set of X tools and libraries to support local execution of X applications and X games on OS X. Extending Mac OS X with an X Window porting environment will enable high-resolution 3D-modeling and animation, graphical visualization and image rendering applications to be built directly on Mac OS X, says Holmgren.
It may be my age showing, but would someone mind translating this paragraph for me? I don't know what's an X and what's pronounced ten. Are there only ten new games and ten new applications for the Mac OS ten? Those young lazy silicon valley types are always trying to make things complicated for others, even when it comes to naming!
Finally, someone is talking some sense! The tutorial that I used is on this page. Click on the link that says 'the best LaTeX guide that I've found'. It's a dvi file so you need to have a dvi viewer. There's also a link to a good index of LaTeX commands on this page.
Bagh. Back in my day, cell phones had TONS of radiation, we put lead paint chips in our soup, AND we wore sweaters made out of asbestos.
Nowadays, everyone is so worried about these fancy schmancy cell phones causing a little problem in their head when they should be thankful that cell phones are so damn small and efficient.
When I was younger, cell phones were huge, heavy, and lasted about 5 minutes before the batteries needed charging. Each month the phone company didn't need to keep track of our minutes, they just measured how much the tumor on the side of our head grew since the previous month. My friend Eddy 'Lumpy' talked on his cell phone so much that he didn't need a pillow at night, he just slept on the side with his tumor. His tumor was huge and squishy, all the pillow that anyone needs.
Bagh. Back in my day, companies went out of business with dignity and style.
Nowadays, these lazy Silicon Valley or fancy schmancy Canadian start-ups don't know when to throw in the flag and give up. The have to weakly crawl around selling off this or laying of that before finally going under. You'd never see a fine upstanding company such as IBM or Xerox floundering around before they went out of business. Once they realized that there was no hope for survival, they'd shutdown leaving an everyone without jobs, abandoning the building and liking it!
Bagh. Everyone knows that CERTs don't have holes in them. Lifesavers have holes, not CERTs.
In my day, we didn't have any fancy schmancy Bastille scripts to harden our systems. If we wanted a secure VAX system, we wrote our own scripts to do it. If we didn't know how secure it was, then we called our friend Kevin M. to come over and test it out. Nowadays, all you lazy Silicon Valley kids couldn't secure up a computer if it was turned off. You wouldn't know a secure computer from a circuit breaker and my friend Kevin M. can't help you because he can't come within 10' of a computer. The lazy government didn't like him testing the security of their computers, and threw him in prison!
bagh. Back in my day we didn't have fancy schmancy streaming digital audio.
If we wanted to listen to something on our computer, we plopped a music CD in the CDROM tray. If we wanted to listen to something in a different part of our house, we didn't stream it to the computer in that room, we turned the volume up in the other room.
Nowadays, all you kids with your stream this, or rip that attitudes are causing those hard working record industry executives to get there panties in a bundle. The recording industry barely gets by on its razor thin profit margins, and any of this digital streaming might cause them to to go bust! If you weren't such lazy hooligans, you'd carry around your store bought CD around with you and listen to that.
Back in my day, we didn't have all these fancy schmancy ink jet printers.
As we typed character by character, the letter printed onto a sheet of paper. There were no useless CRT monitors, or LCD panels. No eyestrain either.
Instead of worrying about old Inkjet printers, you need to get yourself a good teletype printer and sell your monitor to one of those lazy silicon valley kids.
Bagh, back in my day, we didn't need any of these fancy schmancy TLD restrictions or new names.
Everyone who wanted a.com simply bought one that was their first name (e.g. bob.com, louie.com). Hardly anyone used nameservers, so nobody cared who owned what domain name. It wasn't until all these lazy Silicon Valley kids came around and started using up all the Domain Names for unimportant companies and Trademarked names. If you kids worked for a living instead of being so lazy, then you'd memorize the IP addresses of all of your favorite sites and put the nameservers to good use as VAX terminals or something.
bagh, back in my day, we didn't need any functional programming languages. LISP and SCHEME were for acedamia and procedures were for hard working people.
Everything was procedural and when we wanted to develop an algorithm, we used GOTO's and FOR NEXT's and we liked it. Nowadays, everyone wants to use fancy schmancy functions or bloated Classes and Objects.
Bagh. Data Structures are for Lazy young Silicon Valley kids that don't know good programming from a VAX prompt!
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You are right, however, about only needing to toggle bits on the registers. Back in my day, that's what we used to do. We didn't have these fancy-schmancy mark-up languages and modeling languages. Bagh.
You don't even need these bloated tools if you just steer clear of OOP programming! Does assembler have an object or a class?
Javascript is a completely different story. I usually end up doing my initial Javascript coding and checking/debugging in Linux/Netscape. Eventually, I turn things to Windows and use IE, because the Javascript can be interpreted completely different. Mozilla still doesn't run some Javascript properly, and I'm sticking with JavaScript 1.1.
If you kids knew what was good for you, then you'd all get jobs that have day-care for your elders.
Back in my day, everyone knew who the real chess champion was. Capablanca was he! Capablanca didn't study fancy schmancy hyper-modern openings. He just say down and beat anyone he played, for 8 full years, he didn't lose a game! Until some young mathematician whippersnapper named Reti came along and hosed him with that fancy schmancy hyper-modern hogwash.
I may be an angry old man who rambles too much, but you need to understand that real chess players use the King's gambit and occupy hte center with their pieces.
Thank you, I need to go to bed.
Back in my day, we had computers that ran at different speeds. They had a TURBO button. The computer that I'm typing this on runs at an adequate 40 MHz. When I have to do some computing or send a document to the printer, then I press the TURBO button and the document gets queued in the printer at a blazing 55 MHz.
This computer is as fast as you need once it's in Turbo mode and it's over 10 years old!
By the time that the internet pr0n picture got downloaded completely, we had plenty of napkins to.. ..agh.. "enjoy" the picture with.
If we had something to protect, then we hired a real honest human being to protect it. All you kids nowadays need to sit back behind the safety of a kiosk and do your dirty work. Show some integrity and respect and go out there and shoot your own damn intruders.
You kids are going to get your robotic gaurd confused with Slash from Quick 3 or Quack 3, or whatever and then go on a rampage shooting everyone in sight. Those damn bleeding hearts will then blame society and video games for your misunderstanding of reality.
Please, go out and find an honest job and gaurd your possessions without robotic assistance.
You'll thank me when you are older.
If we were of worth to the company which we worked for, then we were given an office. That's right a real office complete with walls, door, and ceiling. In order to avoid flourescent lights, we would shut of the overhead lights and then use lamps.
Nowadays, all you touchy feely young start-up kids need to have 'cubicles' and an open working environment. This is an obvious result of too many drugs and too much free-sex in the sixties. I say Bagh!! I'm not bothered by ringing phones and flourescent lights in my office, unless they are mine.
If you want to fix your lighting problem, young Alex, then I suggest you get a job working for a nice respectable company that uses offices.
Test tubes should be reserved for babies and scientific experiments. Nowadays all you kids want to shrink this, and integrate that, but not me.
I'll stick with my heavy and big VAX system and line-printer. Then, the next flu that comes around will only wipe me out, not my computer, too.
All you kids don't need fancy schmancy portable devices. Just relax and sit down at a desk to do your computing. For real computing, punch up a punch of cards and go down to the nearest VAX building!
It'll take video game graphics processing off of the graphics card and put it back on the main CPU, where it should be. Back in my day all of the graphics was rendered in the CPU before sending the data to the graphics card. This usually resulted in a respectable frame rate of 1-3 frames per second, not that fancy schmancy 100 FPS that all you kids think you need for a good time.
Since these disrespectable silicon valley hardware companies want to allow cheating with there cards, more and more graphics rendering will have to take place on the main processor. That's a step backwards.
To respond to UnknownSoldier's comment and a few other comments too, I have been using CAD systems since before CAD systems were made and you are wrong about rendering speeds. There are 2 different wireframe styles of rendering. The first is called 'wireframe' and it displays all edges in the entire FOV with no shading. It is always faster then fully shaded rendering. The second type of wireframe rendering is called 'line-clipping' and it is always slower then fully shaded rendering. This is because it is mathematically complicated to determine where to start and end lines. Line clipping looks like wireframe, except that you can't see wires behind other objects.
All that hogwash about graphics cards only using triangles is utter nonsense. Triangles and polygons are used for benchmarking purposes, but there are NO graphics cards that only use shaded triangles for 3D rendering.
Nowadays, it seems like you need 80 GB of storage just to store all that bloated young hippy-kid software that they write in Silicon Valley. Back in my day, programmers were upstanding individuals who would optimize code and only include neccessary features into applications. Entire OS's fit on a single floppy along side word processors and games! Nowadays, fancy schmany MS Word is huge, and it does useless things such as fighting with me over capital letters and nagging me about grammar.
Back in my day, hardware was required for music, books, journals, magazines, and movies (practically speaking, of course). Nowadays, every piece of information can be stored in a digital format, free of physical existance and easily copied, deleted, and consumed. I'm preaching to the choor here, but information is fundamentally free. In the past, that fact was hidden behind all of the CDs, books, tapes, and paper, but now we can finally consume it as it was meant to be: in it's non-physical form.
For once, I fear the established companies more then the fresh startups because, the established companies have more resources in which to keep information from spreading. They will continue to encrypt media, sue for copyright infringment, do whatever else they can. The younger companies can't afford those kind of protections yet.
I may be an angry old man, but for once I agree with all you young punks that think you can just copy music and movies to your heart's content. Now, where was it that I could find a copy of DeCSS...
If we had a company and we wanted name recognition, we developed a good product! That's right, nowadays all these lazy Silicon Valley or Redmond WA kids can't come up with QUALITY to save their unproductive lives, so they invest a ton of money in a fancy schmancy trademark or a logo.
If these kids worked hard for quality instead of recognition, we wouldn't have all these legal disputes and overpaid lawyers.
Do you young'ns know the story behind The Real McCoy? Here's a little bit of the story from a 3rd grader. What she doesn't say is that others' copies of the lubricating cup were of low quality, so everyone always asked for 'the real McCoy's cup'. It's an example of good quality trademark being more sought after then well placed and superficial trademarks.
Finally, an article that helps answer the age old Linux vs. BSD debate and it doesn't even get posted on the front page!
Finally, someone is talking some sense! The tutorial that I used is on this page. Click on the link that says 'the best LaTeX guide that I've found'. It's a dvi file so you need to have a dvi viewer. There's also a link to a good index of LaTeX commands on this page.
Nowadays, everyone is so worried about these fancy schmancy cell phones causing a little problem in their head when they should be thankful that cell phones are so damn small and efficient.
When I was younger, cell phones were huge, heavy, and lasted about 5 minutes before the batteries needed charging. Each month the phone company didn't need to keep track of our minutes, they just measured how much the tumor on the side of our head grew since the previous month. My friend Eddy 'Lumpy' talked on his cell phone so much that he didn't need a pillow at night, he just slept on the side with his tumor. His tumor was huge and squishy, all the pillow that anyone needs.
Nowadays, these lazy Silicon Valley or fancy schmancy Canadian start-ups don't know when to throw in the flag and give up. The have to weakly crawl around selling off this or laying of that before finally going under. You'd never see a fine upstanding company such as IBM or Xerox floundering around before they went out of business. Once they realized that there was no hope for survival, they'd shutdown leaving an everyone without jobs, abandoning the building and liking it!
In my day, we didn't have any fancy schmancy Bastille scripts to harden our systems. If we wanted a secure VAX system, we wrote our own scripts to do it. If we didn't know how secure it was, then we called our friend Kevin M. to come over and test it out. Nowadays, all you lazy Silicon Valley kids couldn't secure up a computer if it was turned off. You wouldn't know a secure computer from a circuit breaker and my friend Kevin M. can't help you because he can't come within 10' of a computer. The lazy government didn't like him testing the security of their computers, and threw him in prison!
If we wanted to listen to something on our computer, we plopped a music CD in the CDROM tray. If we wanted to listen to something in a different part of our house, we didn't stream it to the computer in that room, we turned the volume up in the other room.
Nowadays, all you kids with your stream this, or rip that attitudes are causing those hard working record industry executives to get there panties in a bundle. The recording industry barely gets by on its razor thin profit margins, and any of this digital streaming might cause them to to go bust! If you weren't such lazy hooligans, you'd carry around your store bought CD around with you and listen to that.
As we typed character by character, the letter printed onto a sheet of paper. There were no useless CRT monitors, or LCD panels. No eyestrain either.
Instead of worrying about old Inkjet printers, you need to get yourself a good teletype printer and sell your monitor to one of those lazy silicon valley kids.
Everyone who wanted a .com simply bought one that was their first name (e.g. bob.com, louie.com). Hardly anyone used nameservers, so nobody cared who owned what domain name. It wasn't until all these lazy Silicon Valley kids came around and started using up all the Domain Names for unimportant companies and Trademarked names. If you kids worked for a living instead of being so lazy, then you'd memorize the IP addresses of all of your favorite sites and put the nameservers to good use as VAX terminals or something.
Everything was procedural and when we wanted to develop an algorithm, we used GOTO's and FOR NEXT's and we liked it. Nowadays, everyone wants to use fancy schmancy functions or bloated Classes and Objects.
Bagh.
Data Structures are for Lazy young Silicon Valley kids that don't know good programming from a VAX prompt!