The odds of it working across various distributions (or even various configurations) are slim to none.
Any proof to your assertion? No. This is FUD. Let's reserve judgement until a product appears.
There is a big tradition with hacking things until they work under Linux. My ISP, for example, says that Linux will not work. They warn me that Internet Explorer may not work properly under Linux. Nevertheless, somehow I am able to dial in.
I really doubt that Debianism/Slackism couldn't be hacked in. The reason they are going with Red Hat is simply for market recognition/market penetration.
From the OSAR web page, it seems like this provides a portable way of collecting performance data. There has got to be more to this than just getting the system load. Anybody know/use SAR? What goodies does it have?
> independent/smaller studios (can we say Mirimax)
You mean Miramax, a studio/distribution arm of that small company called Disney?
The independence of Miramax is sorely testable, even outside the legal sphere -- after all, the holy rollers love a boycott. Remember how upset people got about Priest?
Anybody know about highly-pentium2 optimized lapack/blas libraries? Anybody know if compiling the BLAS under pgcc/pg77 breaks the test cases? Are there binaries in rpm format?
OSS is okay. They make sound very easy. Even the binary-only method is better than nothing, given an NDA-infested world. Of course, completely free and open is good too.
When I wanted to get my linux system to do sound, it was a big pain in the butt. I am lazy. I have better things to do than spend two days figuring out how sound worked. I had a stock rh5.1 system, my sound card wasn't supported, and OSS was fantastic. I gave my $20 and was very satistified. I had banged my head enough with the isapnp business.
Btw - Later, as I learned about compiling my kernel, I compiled in OSS/free support. I would still suggest a newbie try OSS if they have trouble with sound.
I think this is a popular theory for a billion Chinese. A western buddy of mine in Beijing says that nobody there buys the accident argument -- the bombing took place midway between may day and today, the 10th anniversary of the Tiannenmen (sp?) Square massacre (June 4).
I live in downtown Toronto, where infrastructure isn't updated as often as in the 'burbs. (Why?) I can wait for ADSL (Bell Sympatico HSE) or I can wait for cable (Rogers @home) or I can get something called Microwave digital right now ( Look/Internet Direct)
I ask this because the TV signal I get right now is a line-of-sight signal provided by Look, and getting the internet stuff requires very little extra hardware. In fact it sounds like the thing mentioned about the Empire State Building. (My transmitter is on the CN Tower)
My question is -- does anybody have any experience with Linux and this kind of stuff? You need a regular modem for the uplink line. The downlink is supposedly 1.5 Mbs, but there are various things about it that suck, such as time limits on connections.
Microsoft would never hire script kiddies just to make Linux look bad. That would be a dirty trick and we know they never,ever, ever do anything like that.
Provincial election underway in Ontario. The not-so-bright incumbent had his domain name registered by an opposing party. (www.mikeharris.com) I live in Ontario, and don't like the guy, but this kind of trick is slimy.
There is an article on Tim Berners-Lee, (the guy who invented http) by Financial Post (Toronto) during this conference. He espouses views that sound like RMS. In this light, RMS's award isn't too surprising. To wit:
Mr. Berners-Lee also had harsh words to say about the application of patent law and intellectual property rights, suggesting that an ethos of "whatever you can get away with" will inhibit the adoption of common standards, essential to the continued growth of the Web.
A cynical exploitation of a tragic event. This gives China a very good way to distract people from both the 10 year anniversary of Tiannamen Square Massacre as well as US spy hearings. Oh yeah, and the idea that people go in to sovereign countries and tell people to stop abusing the locals [cough - tibet?] makes China unhappy.
Where? I like the sounds of this but I don't really know anything about alpha. Is it possible to buy a prebuilt cheapo alpha-linux boxen? (like those sub $500 intel boxes)
I have heard that the gcc floating point performance isn't very good on alpha. Is this truth or FUD?
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The reason you are seeing all the Linux-growth/red hat articles is because RH has done a great deal to raise the profile of Linux. This is a GOOD DEED.
I don't know why so many people want to think the worst of Red Hat. Maybe the spectre of Microsoft is too hard to forget. But folks, it's still Linux. Anything particularly clever they help develop (like gnome) can be crossfertilized into your favourite distribution, thank you GPL.
I didn't see where in the article they talk about "trying to snuff out other distributions".
SAP is a big deal everywhere, not just Germany. They obviously like Red Hat's business side. This isn't some secret plot by RH to kill SuSE. SAP is new to linux so it is going with the market leader.
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I considered doing this too. But I balked, and bought the Cheapbytes Redhat 6.0 and let it do all that for me. It was really easy.
I am pretty sure that the Debian 2.1 cd, at $2.49, is easier to install afresh, than to do it all by hand. It has Glibc 2.07 I think.
Just wondering.
Any proof to your assertion? No. This is FUD. Let's reserve judgement until a product appears.
There is a big tradition with hacking things until they work under Linux. My ISP, for example, says that Linux will not work. They warn me that Internet Explorer may not work properly under Linux. Nevertheless, somehow I am able to dial in.
I really doubt that Debianism/Slackism couldn't be hacked in. The reason they are going with Red Hat is simply for market recognition/market penetration.
From the OSAR web page, it seems like this provides a portable way of collecting performance data. There has got to be more to this than just getting the system load. Anybody know/use SAR? What goodies does it have?
> independent/smaller studios (can we say Mirimax)
You mean Miramax, a studio/distribution arm of that small company called Disney?
The independence of Miramax is sorely testable, even outside the legal sphere -- after all, the holy rollers love a boycott. Remember how upset people got about Priest?
Maybe at first, I think this was done to death. I mean, to repeat the joke a second time was kind of flogging a dead horse.
Otherwise I enjoyed it. Jerry Springer bit -- hilarious.
IIRC it's a 32 node SP2 with special hardware for chess lookahead. Not so useful for floating point, but a great publicity stunt for IBM.
Anybody know about highly-pentium2 optimized lapack/blas libraries? Anybody know if compiling
the BLAS under pgcc/pg77 breaks the test cases? Are there binaries in rpm format?
OSS is okay. They make sound very easy. Even the binary-only method is better than nothing, given an NDA-infested world. Of course, completely free and open is good too.
When I wanted to get my linux system to do sound, it was a big pain in the butt. I am lazy. I have better things to do than spend two days figuring out how sound worked. I had a stock rh5.1 system, my sound card wasn't supported, and OSS was fantastic. I gave my $20 and was very satistified. I had banged my head enough with the isapnp business.
Btw - Later, as I learned about compiling my kernel, I compiled in OSS/free support. I would still suggest a newbie try OSS if they have trouble with sound.
I think this is a popular theory for a billion Chinese. A western buddy of mine in Beijing says that nobody there buys the accident argument -- the bombing took place midway between may day and today, the 10th anniversary of the Tiannenmen (sp?) Square massacre (June 4).
They became an official GNU project a while back.
I live in downtown Toronto, where infrastructure isn't updated as often as in the 'burbs. (Why?) I can wait for ADSL (Bell Sympatico HSE) or I can wait for cable (Rogers @home) or I can get something called Microwave digital right now ( Look/Internet Direct)
I ask this because the TV signal I get right now is a line-of-sight signal provided by Look, and getting the internet stuff requires very little extra hardware. In fact it sounds like the thing mentioned about the Empire State Building. (My transmitter is on the CN Tower)
My question is -- does anybody have any experience with Linux and this kind of stuff? You need a regular modem for the uplink line. The downlink is supposedly 1.5 Mbs, but there are various things about it that suck, such as time limits on connections.
However, it's cheap (C$30/mo) and available now.
FWIW, AIX used to offer a pc emulation for powerpc, way back, even for AIX 3.2.5
Microsoft would never hire script kiddies just to make Linux look bad. That would be a dirty trick and we know they never, ever, ever do anything like that.
Yes. from around 10pm EST last night until around 1230pm EST today.
Cracked? If so, who's cracking it? Those 10 guys Microsoft hired? Maybe Rob should post an explanation whenever there is downtime, lest we worry.
Canada angle -
Provincial election underway in Ontario. The not-so-bright incumbent had his domain name registered by an opposing party. (www.mikeharris.com) I live in Ontario, and don't like the guy, but this kind of trick is slimy.
Domain name squatting is for jerks.
The article is here.
Does the US army have a techno warfare division? For example, do they have a room full of script kiddies launching denial-of-service attacks?
A cynical exploitation of a tragic event. This gives China a very good way to distract people from both the 10 year anniversary of Tiannamen Square Massacre as well as US spy hearings. Oh yeah, and the idea that people go in to sovereign countries and tell people to stop abusing the locals [cough - tibet?] makes China unhappy.
Where? I like the sounds of this but I don't really know anything about alpha. Is it possible to buy a prebuilt cheapo alpha-linux boxen? (like those sub $500 intel boxes)
I have heard that the gcc floating point performance isn't very good on alpha. Is this truth or FUD?
The reason you are seeing all the Linux-growth/red hat articles is because RH has done a great deal to raise the profile of Linux. This is a GOOD DEED.
I don't know why so many people want to think the worst of Red Hat. Maybe the spectre of Microsoft is too hard to forget. But folks, it's still Linux. Anything particularly clever they help develop (like gnome) can be crossfertilized into your favourite distribution, thank you GPL.
I didn't see where in the article they talk about "trying to snuff out other distributions".
SAP is a big deal everywhere, not just Germany. They obviously like Red Hat's business side. This isn't some secret plot by RH to kill SuSE. SAP is new to linux so it is going with the market leader.