The sick out was a matter of speech. In effect, they were saying that they did not like how NW was bargaining with them. The fact that NW has pushed this so far upsets me.
When my local supermarket was signing people up I told them flatly that I would not give them that information. They wanted name, address, phone number. They let me sign up as Alfred E. Newman. But I use my credit card to pay, so already they can link me to my purchases.
Just to mess with them, I purchase one 'non-sequitor' each month. I know that they look at trends, but when instead of chips and beer and red meat, they see a vegetarian tofu meal, I just hope that it makes them think.
That was my first, with the 16K RAM expansion so I could play Frogger. About the size of a desktop calculator, with a printer that printed on paper like register receipts and a tape recorder for saving programs that I typed in on that impossibly small keyboard.
On second thought, forget it. As soon as I got my Vic20, I forgot it.
I had used Arcserve on Netware for years, and loved it. I once had to do a full system restore (when upgrading) and it was a breeze. Haven't used it on NT, though.
At least it is good to see another vendor supporting Linux.
Agreed. The pill and the revolution in lifestyles (not just for men but more so for women) that it created. Two-income families, ability to plan when or if to have children, made life much different for women. Women were working outside the home before the pill, but after they were able to have careers, not just jobs.
No, thank goodness, that was Kansas. We Arizonans are proud that we can usually find one state that will do *something* so we won't be considered complete morons.
Since the separation of church and state are guaranteed from the establishment clause of the Bill Of Rights, only students who are registered in Religious Studies can access these sites. For everyone else, CUT 'EM OFF!
Ain't censorship fun? Soon, all we'll have left is Mickey Mouse, and we are working on ways to get rid of him, too!
Arizona is an extremely conservative state (except for Tucson!) and this sh*t happens all the time. At least our state government doesn't take bribes and governors get impeached all every few years.
"they just need to take out a lot more full page ads and plant some employees to post to groups and handle reporters."
Just like so many AC's here now:)
I have always hated the GUI on the server console. Damn that takes up so much resources (look at Task Manager) and realize what is wasted.
I, like you, come from a Netware background. NT is meant for the lowest common denominator, a dentists office. Any moron can turn it on. And it looks purdy. I can't say that Novell\Netware is meant to task so many things (We only used, and still use file and print) but it did it so well.
Novell let their guard down when NT 3.51 was out, and didn't think that 4.0 and the M$ marketing machine was much to worry about. Shame on them. But double shame on the corporate shills who listened to the sweetalk from M$.
Amen. I began using linux because of Novell. I could get through the text based admin tools a lot faster than I ever could with user manager. I never did like nwadmin.
I must state, however, that the java x-console on Netware 5 (and I have very little experience with it) I did not like.
Give me 3.12 anyday. It ran like a champ (until I *had* to get rid of it!) and never went down. I ran 100 users on a 66Mhz/64MegRAM server until last October. And they never had a problem until NT.
BS. I ran Netware 2.2, 3.11, 3.12, 4.10 and 4.11. Lots of users, and no problems. I could count the amount of 'Abends' of the nine servers over five years on one hand. Less then five in five years!
While the NT boxes have yet to go down (3 months with weekly reboots) I think they are a pain in the ass. We have spent more money on NT in 3 months than ever on Novell.
I am beginning to believe that all AC posts come from M$.com.
I admin that I am a linux newbie (only use it at home) and that I got my first experience running a 5 user LAN with Netware 2.2. I know my way around Netware. All we use the LAN servers for where I work is file and print. Novell did this with great simplicity, and on very little hardware.
fast forward a few years: working at Megacorp Inc., the Powers That Be decide NT should be our corporate standard. "We'll Save Money!" they said. We've saved boatloads of money. On the server I had to upgrade to support NT. On the server to be the BDC. On all sorts of things. I hate my job now thanks to M$. Using "User Manager" is a pain in the ass. I hate the idea that if my server room was not secured, and I didn't have it locked down, any moron could use the server as terminal. Just because NT is pretty, doesn't make it better.
Can you tell I am partisan? Sorry, but this is too true. I want the fsckers in my company to realize they made a HUGE mistake by moving to NT.
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The sick out was a matter of speech. In effect, they were saying that they did not like how NW was bargaining with them. The fact that NW has pushed this so far upsets me.
Thanks for the URL. I just canceled my membership.
Please, be nice, but let them know that this should not stand.
Red Hat, Redhat, Caldera, OpenLinux, SuSE, S.u.s.e., applixware, news, resources, Operating, System, OS, KDE, GNOME, GNU, Server,
Searching for these things gets you LinuxOne?
Of course /. is biased, every group is.
But these questions are very loaded. We Americans hate lawyers, the government, and that is what these questions are asking about.
Government getting involved in MS software design? Does that not sound loaded to you?
When my local supermarket was signing people up I told them flatly that I would not give them that information. They wanted name, address, phone number. They let me sign up as Alfred E. Newman. But I use my credit card to pay, so already they can link me to my purchases.
Just to mess with them, I purchase one 'non-sequitor' each month. I know that they look at trends, but when instead of chips and beer and red meat, they see a vegetarian tofu meal, I just hope that it makes them think.
Let's face it. It is impossible to hide.
That was my first, with the 16K RAM expansion so I could play Frogger. About the size of a desktop calculator, with a printer that printed on paper like register receipts and a tape recorder for saving programs that I typed in on that impossibly small keyboard.
On second thought, forget it. As soon as I got my Vic20, I forgot it.
Um, read the article. That program is called "Corel Update". It is a Corel problem. Not a GNU\Linux problem.
I had used Arcserve on Netware for years, and loved it. I once had to do a full system restore (when upgrading) and it was a breeze. Haven't used it on NT, though.
At least it is good to see another vendor supporting Linux.
Agreed. The pill and the revolution in lifestyles (not just for men but more so for women) that it created. Two-income families, ability to plan when or if to have children, made life much different for women. Women were working outside the home before the pill, but after they were able to have careers, not just jobs.
No, thank goodness, that was Kansas. We Arizonans are proud that we can usually find one state that will do *something* so we won't be considered complete morons.
Since the separation of church and state are guaranteed from the establishment clause of the Bill Of Rights, only students who are registered in Religious Studies can access these sites. For everyone else, CUT 'EM OFF!
Ain't censorship fun? Soon, all we'll have left is Mickey Mouse, and we are working on ways to get rid of him, too!
Arizona is an extremely conservative state (except for Tucson!) and this sh*t happens all the time. At least our state government doesn't take bribes and governors get impeached all every few years.
Oh, geez, what was I thinking. They do.
Only problem I have with Gnome is Netscape 4.6.
Time to download 4.7......
Moderate the above comment up.
All I can say is that my experience is similar.
"they just need to take out a lot more full page ads and plant some employees to post to groups and handle reporters."
:)
Just like so many AC's here now
I have always hated the GUI on the server console. Damn that takes up so much resources (look at Task Manager) and realize what is wasted.
I, like you, come from a Netware background. NT is meant for the lowest common denominator, a dentists office. Any moron can turn it on. And it looks purdy. I can't say that Novell\Netware is meant to task so many things (We only used, and still use file and print) but it did it so well.
Novell let their guard down when NT 3.51 was out, and didn't think that 4.0 and the M$ marketing machine was much to worry about. Shame on them. But double shame on the corporate shills who listened to the sweetalk from M$.
Amen. I began using linux because of Novell. I could get through the text based admin tools a lot faster than I ever could with user manager. I never did like nwadmin.
I must state, however, that the java x-console on Netware 5 (and I have very little experience with it) I did not like.
Give me 3.12 anyday. It ran like a champ (until I *had* to get rid of it!) and never went down. I ran 100 users on a 66Mhz/64MegRAM server until last October. And they never had a problem until NT.
BS. I ran Netware 2.2, 3.11, 3.12, 4.10 and 4.11. Lots of users, and no problems. I could count the amount of 'Abends' of the nine servers over five years on one hand. Less then five in five years!
While the NT boxes have yet to go down (3 months with weekly reboots) I think they are a pain in the ass. We have spent more money on NT in 3 months than ever on Novell.
I am beginning to believe that all AC posts come from M$.com.
I admin that I am a linux newbie (only use it at home) and that I got my first experience running a 5 user LAN with Netware 2.2. I know my way around Netware. All we use the LAN servers for where I work is file and print. Novell did this with great simplicity, and on very little hardware.
fast forward a few years: working at Megacorp Inc., the Powers That Be decide NT should be our corporate standard. "We'll Save Money!" they said. We've saved boatloads of money. On the server I had to upgrade to support NT. On the server to be the BDC. On all sorts of things. I hate my job now thanks to M$. Using "User Manager" is a pain in the ass. I hate the idea that if my server room was not secured, and I didn't have it locked down, any moron could use the server as terminal. Just because NT is pretty, doesn't make it better.
Can you tell I am partisan? Sorry, but this is too true. I want the fsckers in my company to realize they made a HUGE mistake by moving to NT.
Get a life, you M$ troll. My 3.12 worked just fine with the free patches. I'll take Netware over NT anyday.
He does seem to assume that all hostility comes from white males. I guess I am guilty on both counts. But I have yet to flame. I must be an anomoly.
I can see it now, having to surrender you battery at the gate before boarding the plane.
Being a smoker, and careless by nature, I'm sure that someday I would start a fire in my laptop.