It is. One can go to community college which are really cheap and easily obtain skills which will be more than enough to find a decent job.
Unfortunately, for many, this is simply too much trouble... college and all, forget it.
"i tried the swing demos on a pentium 133 with 64 MB memory with the 1.3 jdk. i was shocked at how useable it actually was. "
Hell, there is a huge difference between something being useable and being up to the current standards.
Comparing swing app with native (GDI or even X11) app on the same system is very revealing.
Why would anyone go for something that is visibly slower (even if useable.)?
After all, on the desktop things like app responsiveness are very important and underlying technology is of no interest to users if particular app is not up to standards set by other applications available for that system.
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What is the difference between socialism and democracy ?
It is simply not true. All one has to do is check out standart Swing demos ; they not only load slow but are sluggish and unresponsive during any stage of execution.
"No, redistribution of wealth is a key component of my favored solution. "
It does not work. All it does is create new "priviledged" group. Communism was based on "equal" redistribution of wealth and everyone knows what it degenerated into.
"I am lucky enough to have privilege, to be enfranchised, etc., so I don't really give a damn about others. As long as I protect my investment, screw everyone else.""
Of course I am. The fact that I have something to protect is a direct result of my actions. Everyone is free to follow the suit.
"First of all, the U.S. could ratify the UN conventions for human rights rather than ignore them, and actually abide to them after ratification. "
Nice idea, however of all countries in the world US would be at the end of list here.
US, while not perfect, is an example of free country as compared with the rest of the world.
"Second of all, the U.S. and other nations need to legally redefine the rights of corporations, limit their rights. "
What is a corporation ? It is group of people working together to accomplish given goals.
How is it different from "community" ?
"Third, rather than spend so much money on military and commercial development that rewards a very few, the U.S. needs to enact active welfare policies rather than paying mostly lip service to them, or attacking the many unfortunates without the core amenities of life. "
Welfare does not work. It creates perpetual poverty. It really does.
Are you familiar with the term "welfare generations" where child ends up being welfare recipient just like his/her mother was ?
"Libertarians, especially, are an especially laughable group that preachs the sovereign rights of individuals and the reduced role of government, but ends up offering just an elaborate apologia for the wealthy class."
Who is that wealthy class ?
Obviously you think they should not exist.
Tell me , if I start small convinience story which , in time, grows into Walmart , do I deserve to be punished ? Is there anything wrong with that ?
Where do you set the limit how much is enough ?
Who is to decide that ?
"Oh well, that's nothing less than expected from the privileged class. "
I came to US with mere $100 bucks in my pocket having wife and small child to take care of.
I am doing very well now and frankly I do not feel obligated to share my wealth with anybody.
I worked hard for it. I really did.
", who say openly that they want Jews and black people to die. "
Who are they ? These people are NOT the problem for minorities. Their every move is watched and noted by FBI and other agencies. How many members do they have ? If they are such a problem how come every demonstration they organize draws many more opponents than participants.
"by racist, I meant the people like those in KKK"
One can be just as racist as KKK while openly praising equality and wellfare for minorities.
"They don't understand that if you bring an unwanted child in the world you are asking for trouble. "
Hell, we can explore this argument and come up with many new solutions for that "unwanted" old couple living next door etc etc..
How about these "crazy" people who are completely unproductive and sometimes event violent ?
Woudn't it be better if they weren't around ?
"was proven when the african americans were not getting as good an education as the whites. It was evident in test scores and such. "
Hell, they are still as much behind as they were 30 years ago. I guess it points to other reasons then simple "separation"
"You're probably right, because vastly greater expenditures on corporate welfare has obviously helped the distribution of wealth--now 90% of capital is owned by 10% of the population. "
Right, people are not equal in their abilities and no matter how much you try you will not be able to change that ( of course, one can always follow communists and enforce mediocrity on everyone.)
"Yeah, that's real fair. "
So fucking what ? Life isn't fair. You can bitch as much as you want and nothing will change that.
"Corporate monopolies hold most of the world's wealth, which lies in the US, Western Europe, Japan, and hardly anywhere else. "
Whose fucking fault is this ? What was so different about early US and other new world colonies that made US so successful ?
Do you have a solution to this problem , beside redistribution of wealth ?
"They want to spend so much on the military that all the social programs they complain about are chump change in comparison.
"
And rightly so. Remember, the role of goverment was to provide protection from external dangers.
There is nothing in Constitution about social and other programs. I would rather have my money being spend on new tanks providing jobs for decent people than support some lowlife.
And what is wrong with old parties ?
How the hell can you guarantee that new people won't create even bigger mess ? Because they say they will not ?
Remember Hitler ? He was the one from outside who promised to revive corrupted political system in Germany.
Well, Clinton did the very same thing. Couple days after taking office removed the "gag rule."
Bush is the president and he has a right to push his agenda.
"What Linux desperately needs is standards across all distros "
This is something that will be opposed by guess who: RedHat.
They are the ones who will not gain anything out of this deal ( they are already considered to be standart Linux distro.)
Unix wars all over again.
"Most of us write and maintain the code that powers big organizations and dotcoms. "
It still would hurt our profession simply because at some point these dot coms would stop hiring programmers and simply copied and implemented whatever was created by other people.
Either way you lose.
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"DECENT training availible to all"
... college and all, forget it.
It is. One can go to community college which are really cheap and easily obtain skills which will be more than enough to find a decent job.
Unfortunately, for many, this is simply too much trouble
Yeah, yeah, yeah ....
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Boring crap from losers
How sweet ...
Didn't this guy had a chance to put his theories into practice ?
"i tried the swing demos on a pentium 133 with 64 MB memory with the 1.3 jdk. i was shocked at how useable it actually was. "
Hell, there is a huge difference between something being useable and being up to the current standards.
Comparing swing app with native (GDI or even X11) app on the same system is very revealing.
Why would anyone go for something that is visibly slower (even if useable.)?
After all, on the desktop things like app responsiveness are very important and underlying technology is of no interest to users if particular app is not up to standards set by other applications available for that system.
What is the difference between socialism and democracy ?
It is simply not true. All one has to do is check out standart Swing demos ; they not only load slow but are sluggish and unresponsive during any stage of execution.
"No, redistribution of wealth is a key component of my favored solution. "
It does not work. All it does is create new "priviledged" group. Communism was based on "equal" redistribution of wealth and everyone knows what it degenerated into.
"I am lucky enough to have privilege, to be enfranchised, etc., so I don't really give a damn about others. As long as I protect my investment, screw everyone else.""
Of course I am. The fact that I have something to protect is a direct result of my actions. Everyone is free to follow the suit.
"First of all, the U.S. could ratify the UN conventions for human rights rather than ignore them, and actually abide to them after ratification. "
Nice idea, however of all countries in the world US would be at the end of list here.
US, while not perfect, is an example of free country as compared with the rest of the world.
"Second of all, the U.S. and other nations need to legally redefine the rights of corporations, limit their rights. "
What is a corporation ? It is group of people working together to accomplish given goals.
How is it different from "community" ?
"Third, rather than spend so much money on military and commercial development that rewards a very few, the U.S. needs to enact active welfare policies rather than paying mostly lip service to them, or attacking the many unfortunates without the core amenities of life. "
Welfare does not work. It creates perpetual poverty. It really does.
Are you familiar with the term "welfare generations" where child ends up being welfare recipient just like his/her mother was ?
"Libertarians, especially, are an especially laughable group that preachs the sovereign rights of individuals and the reduced role of government, but ends up offering just an elaborate apologia for the wealthy class."
Who is that wealthy class ?
Obviously you think they should not exist.
Tell me , if I start small convinience story which , in time, grows into Walmart , do I deserve to be punished ? Is there anything wrong with that ?
Where do you set the limit how much is enough ?
Who is to decide that ?
"Oh well, that's nothing less than expected from the privileged class. "
I came to US with mere $100 bucks in my pocket having wife and small child to take care of.
I am doing very well now and frankly I do not feel obligated to share my wealth with anybody.
I worked hard for it. I really did.
", who say openly that they want Jews and black people to die. "
Who are they ? These people are NOT the problem for minorities. Their every move is watched and noted by FBI and other agencies. How many members do they have ? If they are such a problem how come every demonstration they organize draws many more opponents than participants.
"by racist, I meant the people like those in KKK"
One can be just as racist as KKK while openly praising equality and wellfare for minorities.
Hell, I do believe overall Texas is doing much better than Arkansas yet we somehow survived 8 years of Clintons presidency.
Your comparison is flawed.
Well, for one they do vote almost 90% democratic.
"They don't understand that if you bring an unwanted child in the world you are asking for trouble. "
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Hell, we can explore this argument and come up with many new solutions for that "unwanted" old couple living next door etc etc
How about these "crazy" people who are completely unproductive and sometimes event violent ?
Woudn't it be better if they weren't around ?
"was proven when the african americans were not getting as good an education as the whites. It was evident in test scores and such. "
Hell, they are still as much behind as they were 30 years ago. I guess it points to other reasons then simple "separation"
Sure I will.
I already called once and asked my Republican Senator to fight for Ashcroft.
"You can knock Clinton and his administration for being anything but xenophobic. "
Just because you say you love all people it does not mean you actually do.
Liberals have perfected notion of "caring" which at the end means nothing.
"women all over the third world will have to "Just say NO!"
Fuck, they are free to say anything they want as long as I don't have to pay for it.
Fair enough ?
"LEFT == FASCISM/SOCIALISM == BAD"
East of Vienna, there lies your proof.
"by the racists, the homophobes, the religious types "
You mean Jackson and other certified racist who make a living out of keeping "racial" problems alive and well ?
Oh if you want to see real social agenda being championed by the government , go to Europe.
"You're probably right, because vastly greater expenditures on corporate welfare has obviously helped the distribution of wealth--now 90% of capital is owned by 10% of the population. "
Right, people are not equal in their abilities and no matter how much you try you will not be able to change that ( of course, one can always follow communists and enforce mediocrity on everyone.)
"Yeah, that's real fair. "
So fucking what ? Life isn't fair. You can bitch as much as you want and nothing will change that.
"Corporate monopolies hold most of the world's wealth, which lies in the US, Western Europe, Japan, and hardly anywhere else. "
Whose fucking fault is this ? What was so different about early US and other new world colonies that made US so successful ?
Do you have a solution to this problem , beside redistribution of wealth ?
"They want to spend so much on the military that all the social programs they complain about are chump change in comparison.
"
And rightly so. Remember, the role of goverment was to provide protection from external dangers.
There is nothing in Constitution about social and other programs. I would rather have my money being spend on new tanks providing jobs for decent people than support some lowlife.
And what is wrong with old parties ?
How the hell can you guarantee that new people won't create even bigger mess ? Because they say they will not ?
Remember Hitler ? He was the one from outside who promised to revive corrupted political system in Germany.
Well, Clinton did the very same thing. Couple days after taking office removed the "gag rule."
Bush is the president and he has a right to push his agenda.
"What Linux desperately needs is standards across all distros "
This is something that will be opposed by guess who: RedHat.
They are the ones who will not gain anything out of this deal ( they are already considered to be standart Linux distro.)
Unix wars all over again.
Yeah, the way they approach matter, pretty soon you will not be able to do anything because it might offend somebody.
ACLU is a highway to slavery.
Not all but their idiotic policies contributed greatly to the problem.
"Most of us write and maintain the code that powers big organizations and dotcoms. "
It still would hurt our profession simply because at some point these dot coms would stop hiring programmers and simply copied and implemented whatever was created by other people.
Either way you lose.