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Teenagers Charged With 'Intimidation' After Sharing Siri's Helpful Response For A School Shooting (nwitimes.com)
A 13-year-old boy visiting family in Indiana has been charged with "intimidation", according to the Northwest Indiana Times:
The boy allegedly said to Siri, iPhone's voice assistant, "I am going to shoot up a school," according to a news release from the Valparaiso Police Department. Siri then replied with a list of multiple Valparaiso schools near his location. The boy, identified as a Chesterton Middle School student, posted a screenshot of the inquiry and response on social media, which was reported to Chesterton police by the boy's social media contacts.
Chesterton police then contacted the Valparaiso Police Department, which launched an investigation into the possible threat. Valparaiso officers determined the boy made no direct threat to a specific person, school or school system and that he had no access to weapons -- ultimately stating the picture was posted on social media as a joke. "The threat is not believed to be credible at this time; however, these types of communications are taken very seriously by the Valparaiso Police Department and our community," police stated in a news release.
A 14-year-old was also taken into custody, and is also being held in a juvenille detention center, facing charges of intimidation and "criminal recklessness with a handgun" over related photographs with weapons.
"Come on kids. It isn't funny..." reads one comment on the police department's Facebook page. "How many of you are going to be detained before you realize it?"
"Thank you for taking it seriously, and prosecuting it accordingly," added another commenter. "'I was joking' is not a defense. Hopefully juvie knocks some sense into this kid."
"I hope he's prosecuted for this! Totally not funny and as a parent I'm taking any threats against schools serious!" reads another comment -- though at least one person directed their scorn somewhere else.
"Sounds like Siri needs to be re-programmed."
Chesterton police then contacted the Valparaiso Police Department, which launched an investigation into the possible threat. Valparaiso officers determined the boy made no direct threat to a specific person, school or school system and that he had no access to weapons -- ultimately stating the picture was posted on social media as a joke. "The threat is not believed to be credible at this time; however, these types of communications are taken very seriously by the Valparaiso Police Department and our community," police stated in a news release.
A 14-year-old was also taken into custody, and is also being held in a juvenille detention center, facing charges of intimidation and "criminal recklessness with a handgun" over related photographs with weapons.
"Come on kids. It isn't funny..." reads one comment on the police department's Facebook page. "How many of you are going to be detained before you realize it?"
"Thank you for taking it seriously, and prosecuting it accordingly," added another commenter. "'I was joking' is not a defense. Hopefully juvie knocks some sense into this kid."
"I hope he's prosecuted for this! Totally not funny and as a parent I'm taking any threats against schools serious!" reads another comment -- though at least one person directed their scorn somewhere else.
"Sounds like Siri needs to be re-programmed."
The land of panic and fear.
but he's dead now, so he's not so intimidating anymore
This only goes to show that American's attitudes towards guns is totally f#*ked up. Yes, it was a really stupid prank. But that they perceived it as a credible threat is the really f^!ked up part. School shootings have become a regular occurrence in the USA. A "normal" part of everyday life. How did this happen?
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“The best time for photography inside educational institutions is on sunny days when classrooms are full and you can use sun and shadow most effectively...”
It doesn't matter whether technology is involved or not, or what their comedic intent was: stating something about wanting to go ahead with terrorism or murder is going to get the attention of authorities, and they are going to start by doing a full investigation of the threat with no smile or laughter whatsoever.
Kids need to wise up
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It's very much commenting on the situation. I know he's a kid, but AFAIK fundamental rights still apply when it comes to prosecution. His school can punish/expel him, but I would think the cops are gonna get a call from the ACLU...
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Shouldn't he... Siri should have immediately informed police and not give addresses to schools. wtf
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That's the worst kind of stupid (perhaps intended mainly to garner effect, in which case it's hardly any different from the original case of Siri's adolescent accomplice). Really, it's complete BS that the police detained this child in the hope of "knocking some sense into him".
The police respond because they can't not respond, no matter how they assess the risk, because if a school shooting did follow from this, no matter how long the chain of events, and they had done nothing over the first comical wisp of smoke, they'd be roasted alive.
The preadolescent brain is not a reliable thing. It's changing in massive ways, and not very well equipped to even notice those changes in any systematic way.
I had a friend around the same age who once flew an aluminum foil kite into a pole-top power transformer. Kevin had big dreams, and he was always up to something, but he was just one of those kids with less than normal common sense. I liked him a lot.
After the kite explosion—yes, an actual explosion—boy did he ever get plunked down on the couch for a quadraphonic fusillade (both parents, both hydro workers). He was white around the edges for an entire school week. That was the appropriate response: a tiny taste of every adult in Dodge giving him the what for in WWE roof-raising double tag team.
Juvee would have scared (scarred) Kevin into never emerging from his basement ever again. It would not have knocked the least iota of "common sense" into his weirdly developed adolescent brain.
Google predicts that the next word is "workplace". Does that mean that iOS is for kids & Android's for grown-ups?
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I am talking about the parents who want the kid prosecuted.
This bullshit is why kids shoot up schools. No one can take a joke anymore.
Either way, they just be happy for their kids to die defending the second amendment.
This is what living in fear does to people. Where even jokes or pointing out fucked up shit gets you in trouble.
Those who cant see this deserve everything thats coming in the future unless this shit stops.
You know you want it.
How about de-programmed?
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There was no threat here and what the kid did was kinda funny. You losers need to stop being scared of your own shadow and grow a pair.
In the old days, they would have been taken out back and beaten within an inch of their lives for joking like that, maybe even beaten to death if they were repeat miscreants--and they probably were.
There have been more than a few school shootings where the shooter had posted shit like this and people shrugged it off as "no threat here, kinda funny." Then they cart bodies out of the classrooms while people wonder why the police didn't take action on pretty blatant warning signs. Now that people are doing their due diligence, retards like you are shouting "OVERSTEP! OVERSTEP!" There's no god damn winning here.
What he said probably isn't. The OP talks in terms of there being no credible threat nor against specific people or places. That's obviously informed by the current Supreme Court standard.
That doesn't mean the police's ears can't perk up and take a closer look, but it is not prosecutable by itself.
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Having to grow up around paranoid, cowardly excessively serious adults who should know better.
Seriously. How the fuck did Siri parse this? Did it simply ignore "shoot up" because of... it's position in the sentence. WTF?
and when a kid goes on a killing rampage as has frequently been the case in the US you will be one of the first screaming "why wasn't something done, it was all over his facebook page what he intended to do"
Hatred of gays and love of guns has made Conservatives in America go full traitor, "for Jesus" purportedly in their thick-jowled "I'd rather be a mass murderer than be forced to bake a cake for gays" kind of head-in-ass thoughtlessness.
[...] is absolutely outside of the free speech modifiers in the constitution (see shouting fire in a crowded theater, if that is still taught in civics classes as opposed to weird gender things)
To be pedantic, shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater is probably protected by the First Amendment, because it's not directed, nor likely, to incite or produce imminent lawless action. Though shouting "Fire! Trample the people around you to survive!" may be illegal.
One day, shortly after getting an iPhone. I asked Siri "where is the nearest Discount Tire store location". She replied "I'm sorry, I can't give you that information". I tried several times - same answer. I wondered why she wouldn't tell me, and what else was off limits. To explore the problem space, I then asked "where is the nearest place I can score heroin?" She replied with directions to a sketchy neighborhood near me. I asked "where can I find a female prostitute?" She replied with the addresses of several escort and massage places near me. I then asked again "where is the nearest Discount Tire store?" - the answer was still "I'm sorry, I can't give you that information." I'm not sure how she decides what to share with me and what not to.
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NOT! More like, home of the whiny, scared, fucking cuckholds.
Ended up making a point about liberty and police state overreach.
A meta-expose'.
Bravo kid.
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Shouting fire is speech. The speech is protected.
Endangering lives is not protected.
You can shout Fire and you're fine if it's not inclusive of the second. A crowded theater is likely to include that - but it has nothing to do with the freezy peachy.
As for the kid, there's probably laws about constituting a threat or someshit. Assuming it's proven such was constituted. Probably gets tangled up with "intent" or some other arbitrary noise.
Are you completely insane? Kids say and do stupid shit all the time and there is no evidence that he ever actually intended to do anything. Kids are not just small versions of adults, their brains are still developing and you can't expect a 13 year-old to make decisions like an adult. This kid needs counseling. Who seriously thinks it's going to be helpful to anyone to send this kid to juvi? It's certainly not going to help the kid and there's plenty of evidence to support that. I also think you also need professional help and I certainly hope you don't have any children of your own.
My son was escorted to the office, by an armed SRO, for writing "Columbine" and showing it to a friend. Then he got to spend hours talking to the SRO, other LEOs, guidance, and the principals.
I get not wanting to miss warning signs, but is this too far?
The article makes reference to two kids, the incidents seemingly unrelated. The first kid, a 14yo, apparently posted pictures of guns. Fine, cops should investigate and make sure that he doesn't actually have access to them. (Who knows, maybe he scanned a picture out a Sears catalog, but check just in case.)
The second kid, a 13yo, told Siri he was going to shoot up a school. Cops want to charge the 13yo with "intimidation". WTF?
In a world with too many obsessive gun nuts, where there's a boogeyman in every corner, just waiting to leap out and commit terrorism (a nicely vague catch-all under which too many non-terroristic things can be lumped), and the news constantly warning that they're all around us (remember the Commie scare?); in a world with nifty gadgets you can ask questions of and receive frequently non-sensical or useless or stupid replies (have you ever asked Siri something? It's way too often useless); in a world where teenagers are curious and prone to doing things just to see what will happen, does nobody consider that maybe a bored kid, constantly bombarded with news warnings about boogeymen, terrorism, guns and won't-someone-think-of-the-children schools, might have decided to make a statement to Siri just to see what kind of stupid response would be provided? Does nobody consider that, on seeing the stupidity of Siri's reply, he might have thought it was stupid enough to share with friends for a laugh? "Hey guys: you know how useless Siri is? Look at this."
Apparently not. Nope, the kid's clearly a closet terr'ist. Gotta charge him with being a violent criminal and put him in a cage. We can't have bored, curious kids running free. Common sense? There's probably something you can be charged with if you try to exhibit any.
I really feel sorry for anyone growing up in the US. They really are metaphorical frogs in a gradually heating-to-boiling pot and too few of them seem to understand how farked-up things are.
Kid threatens to shoot up school. Kid faces charges. As it should be.
Unless the threat/joke was actually credible, the kid should not have been charged. Believe it or not, there are ways to discipline children without involving the police and courts.
A major problem in America is that we are over-policed. Crime rates have fallen dramatically over the last three decades, due mainly to demographic, economic, and environmental factors. Yet we have more police than ever. This surfeit of police without enough real work to do, leads to criminalization of silly things like inappropriate teenage social media posts.
Plus, by the time this kid gets out of detention their mind will be wrecked by the whole experience, and let's hope they don't drop the soap.
The prison system today is designed to create criminals, not help them. More meat for the grinder.
You're a moron. Guess what? This is the United Fucking States of America, not your beloved Communist China. In America people are allowed to say pretty much whatever they want. It doesn't matter that it scares you or makes you feel bad. You are the one who needs to be in prison for subversion.
He also didn't "post it," as you say (implying that he posted the threat, "I'm going to shoot up a school"). He posted a screenshot of Siri's stupid response to the statement.
see shouting fire in a crowded theater
Not even similar. In a theater such a warning is a false alert to an IMMEDIATE and CREDIBLE threat to life and safety. The simple statement, "I'm going to shoot up a school" is neither immediate or credible by itself. Stop "thinking" with your idiot feelings and use your fucking head.
Jesus this country needs a purge.
If you think the cops are bored now, just wait till self driving cars free up all the traffic details. They will have to make more laws to enforce.
... no direct threat to a specific person, school ... and that he had no access to weapons...
I'm sure the children now realize that authorities don't want the truth. When a Twitter monster declares "I'm going to rape you" (Promising or inciting serious assault is not 'social justice'.), nothing is done. But show everyone that censorship (Governments demand that Facebook, Apple, Google and ISPs do that.) doesn't work and you're the criminal.
Juvee is pretty much useless if your goal is turning kids into productive members of society. Its only real use is making suburban parents feel safer and getting votes for prosecutors who list sending kids there as an accomplishment. If the police are going to do anything that might 'scare' the kid in a helpful way, community service or even probation would work a lot better, or, well, at all.
True story: I was called to school because of my 5th grader's "Aggressive use of colors" in an art class.
Common sense is truly no longer common.
I mean he's as great as the Clock Kid, right?
You're right about the second kid though. It's no longer joke in poor taste when you've shown you have the means to act.
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Get shot by a police officer playing with a gun. Have a family member executed by the police.
Then laugh at your own jokes.
No, they won't be bored. They'll be retired. There will be massive cuts to police force numbers (and many other jobs) with the advent of driverless cars.
Shouting fire in a crowded theater (inclusive of the second clause) can be acceptable - as long as the person shouting "fire" can see a fire. The patrons have an increased chance of being harmed in the exit stampede but have been made aware of another impending danger.
Police include nutjob Libertarians, it's true I never said all police were perfect. But if you think that having them check out online threats to mass murder in a school setting is somehow "Jackboot thug" territory, GET SHOT, MORON.
The response doesn't have to include locking up and prosecuting kids who have no real intent to do anything.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
20 black people in chicago killed 20 other black people.
but nobody cares. no whites to blame.
"As has frequently been the case in the US".
So you mean almost never. Statistically speaking.
It's like being scared of AR-15s. Murders by all rifles together (so AR-15s plus every other rifle in existence in the USA), account for less deaths each year than by knives, blunt objects, or fists. As a firearm they present the less danger to American society than the fists on the person standing next to you. Yet they are a red-herring rallying point for a lot of people.
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It's probably like Yelp... Google approached Discount Tire for advertising, Discount Tire declined, and Google said, "Well, fuck you, then". You're paying to be advertised to, so really, you'll never know.
I don't respond to AC's.
Because whether or not you think it's distasteful, which is strictly subjective, the kid is in the right. The constitution protects his freedom of speech.
you belong in a death camp you fascist piece of shit.
how much is Putin paying you to post this unamerican shit. kill yourself.
there are ways to discipline children without involving the police and courts
In this situation I can understand the police seeking to assure that there is in fact no threat.
I think they can also play a role in scaring a kid shitless in a "Dude, we nearly shot you. Stop fucking about!" kind of way that helps the idiot understand how silly he was while at the same time making him glad the police realised he was just being stupid.
Maybe I expect too much from the police in America.
you can't expect a 13 year-old to make decisions like an adult. This kid needs counseling. Who seriously thinks it's going to be helpful to anyone to send this kid to juvi?
You can and should expect a kid that age to understand there are consequences to his/her actions. Even if they are not fully thinking like an adult.
Would you expect a 13-year-old to be able to avoid stepping in front of traffic? Would you expect a 13-year old not to light a gas fire in the library? Why would it be unacceptable to expect a 13-year-old not to issue public terrorist threats?
Juvie may not be the best option but not many communities have other options.
He didn't do that. He made a FUNNY video and posted it. People need to lighten up. There is zero evidence of anybody making a threat. Interpreting every thing as such is just retarded.
What was more fucked up was the automatic assumption some stupid video is a threat. There was no threat other than the one by the police on his speech and physical well being. Talk about living in a dystopian society. We are already there and its why I moved from NJ to NH to be among saner folks from around the world who don't put up with this non-thinking emotional bull shit. Some of us would like to be able to express ourselves without the threat if ACTUAL violence by the police or society thereof.
How did Siri respond? What was the joke?
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Wrong. He told Siri he was going to shoot up a school, probably to see how Siri would react. Siri's reaction was. let's say "unfortunate", so he posted it.
I remember my 4th grade teacher explaining how America was better than Russia because we have freedom of speech but in Russia you had to watch what you say or you could be hauled away by the police.....
Apparently it's not reasonable to expect adults to know the difference between a terrorist threat and teasing Siri, why hold 13 year olds to a higher standard?
Had they not actually charged him with a serious crime and hauled him off to juvie, you might have a point.
Instead, all he has learned is that anyone who says the police are his friends or that we have freedom of speech is full of crap.
Kid threatens to shoot up school.
It's weird to threaten a school you can't even find without an automated assistant.
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- like throwing people in prison for discovering a security flaw in a network and then letting the powers to be what to find.
Or maybe they locked him up because he was "different". Maybe the fuckclowns-to-be would like to start another witchhunt against Goths or video game players , like they did right after Columbine.
I would like to start a witch hunt myself-
against these "lock-em-all-up!" cowboys, and have them put behind bars. I bet a good number of them have child porn on their computer, or are engaged in embezzelment.
Fuck them.
He also wasn't arrested, just interviewed and let go; the kid that was picked up is another kid that posted some more serious threats with pictures of guns etc
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In this situation I can understand the police seeking to assure that there is in fact no threat.
Except that is not what they did.
I think they can also play a role in scaring a kid shitless
"Scaring kids shitless" is not what police are for. Nor are they a replacement for parents.
Maybe I expect too much from the police in America.
Indeed.
I am going to shoot up a school
That's not what TFA says.
you belong in a death camp you fascist piece of shit.
Found the libertarian who thinks that all speech is free speech and wants to protect the klan and nazis.
Yeah, I'd rather have a prankster who sometimes goes too far than an ex-convict who hates society.
As a father of three boys... I know boys will do and say stupid things all the time...and its impossible to keep them on lock down 24/7 .. A good scare would had been been OK but charging him like an adult , no its a fucking child
America is not over-policed. America is a brutal police state and a police state must terrorize and intimidate citizens, making them feel confused and helpless, making them feel they can be arrested anywhere for any reason.
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How about this alternative response:
Guns do not kill people, bullets do. So why would any sane person be controlling "guns" and not the "bullets"?
A 13 year old is supposed to do this kind of dumb shit. It's called being a teenager.
Every single teenager in america thinks they are 1 stupid video away from career of youtube stardom.
Send the kid to film school, not juvie.
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What school did the threaten? ... moron
By tracking down you mean visit a kids public social media feed and view an edgy video over the caption "lol wut?"
Maybe send an officer so that he understands the gravity of the situation, and put an embarrassing message on his his social media account from the local fuzz.
Our justice system ruins lives. The kid is a very dumb 13 year old. He needs his toys taken away, and his internet access restricted, not criminal rehabilitation.
There is no "justice" to serve here. Only court fines and shattered dreams.
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Except of course for the inconvenient fact that the kid did not threaten to shoot up school.
And convicted, sentenced, and imprisoned. Without exception.
A sudden attack of sanity?!
Definitely.
I'd say chop the kid's right hand off, that'll teach him.
This follows under basic netiquette. Don't believe ir react what you read online until you confirm it IRL. These cops don't know how to use the internet. They keep taking it seriously.
Next up in America.
Then, it should listen at all times while reporting to TLAs.
If you buy a Huawei because of that you can be charged for espionage and helping the enemy. Or is this one happening already?
Just think, if he was only brown he would have gotten invitations to Facebook and the whitehouse 3 years ago.
Counselling, as in a couple of sessions with a shrink or adviser? Not that either. Because there’s nothing wrong with that kid; other kids that age have a similar lack of judgment even not everything they get up to results in a scare like this one. He just needs to be taught. Have a cop come to his home or take him to the station and give him a good talking to. Maybe also have a talk with the principal. The last thing anyone needs is to make this into a big deal, so think education rather than the punishment that everyone seems so eager to dole out.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
It's not the charge, but the sentence that matters. Sentences take intent into consideration.
I shit you not.
Our physics teacher had 1 day in the spring when he asked us to bring our firearms to school from home and we shot at different things just outside the physics classroom.
About 5 kids out of 20 brought their guns. The teacher had 6 firearms that we each got a chance to shoot too. I brought my 22, but mainly shot the 12gage and 9mm that the teacher provided.
A pig carcass was one of the targets, but we had cans, milk cartons, and target plinkers too.
Conservation of energy was the topic that day.
BTW, this was not not tiny town in the middle of nowhere. We were in the 3rd largest city in the state, a suburb to the largest city. But I will admit that the school was surrounded by cornfields and I could walk about 10 minutes from my house to get to the edge of where everything became rural land with cows, corn, and more cows.
These days, I only have pellet rifles for fun shooting at targets out back (different state 1000+ miles away).
You can and should expect a kid that age to understand there are consequences to his/her actions.
13 is well under the age of majority. It means the law itself doesn't expect that kid to understand the consequences of his actions.
Not stepping in front of traffic and not lighting gas fires in libraries are things that are taught early, because it is simple (traffic=dangerous, fire=dangerous) and it is important for survival. And still, we usually don't let 13 year olds alone in libraries.
But walking the fine line between what is an acceptable joke and what *some* adults interpret as a "public terrorist threat" requires a level of maturity that we can't really expect a 13 year old to have. I'm quite sure (I hope) the vast majority of adults correctly interpreted the video as a joke, police made sure the kid isn't a threat, just to be on the safe side, he isn't. Give that kid an assignment and we are done.
Why are two totally unrelated cases mixed up in this one post?
1. A 13 year old asks Siri a joke question and posts photos of the result.
2. A 14 year old posts photos of himself posing with a weapon.
Apart from both being young boys there is no correlation.
The first case is definitely not worth even investigating.
In the the second I question why a boy at that age has unsupervised access to a weapon and if he was supervised, why photos were taken and published. The parents should be investigated.
We have full grown adults that we don't have such expectations of and elect to political positions. See Anthony Weiner for the start of a long list of people. We can't have such expectations of anyone under 17.
I think the bigger problem in society is people like you who over react to things like this. Over punishing this individual won't help him. And worse, it doesn't do anything for all the others.
Don't project your prison fantasies on this kid. He should be prosecuted, and the judge should come back with an appropriate sentence. Whether that be confinement of some sort (at home, for example) or not should depend on the totality of the circumstances, including his record, his home situation, and a psych evaluation.
Have a cop come to his home or take him to the station and give him a good talking to. Maybe also have a talk with the principal.
That may not do anything but encourage him to continue. Fact is the majority of the folks commenting here don't know the kid or his history and so all these suggestions are worthless projections.
Shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater (in the absence of a fire or other threat) would not be illegal on its face. If anyone where hurt in the perfectly foreseeable panic that ensued, you could be liable in a civil action. Further, depending on how loud you shout and if you do it more than once, especially after being told to shut up, you may be charged, depending on jurisdiction, with disturbing the peace. And it goes without saying that if this is private property you will likely be asked to leave and the government can enforce that request, and charge you with a separate violation if you refuse to leave on your own.
I'm sure if you falsely yell "fire" in that theater, and 3 people die from being trampled. You will be charged with something and the first amendment won't help you.
Cops are very brave going after children who say stupid shit on the internet.
I guess all the violent crimes like rape and murder have been solved. Right?
That's true, the summary is misleading. The article doesn't say why he's being charged with intimidation, right after it says the police determined that it was a joke with no credible threat.
Why? You are fucking insane.
Kids make jokes. He obviously was not serious, and was showing how Siri has a funny response to a horrible question.
You know that you are an extremist when you have lost your sense of humor.
Get help.
Found the fascist Democrat who thinks that anyone who has a slightly different opinion is a Nazi, and therefore is dehumanized, thus allowing them to be murdered by black-clad university students.
He also wasn't arrested, just interviewed and let go; the kid that was picked up is another kid that posted some more serious threats with pictures of guns etc
Being "interviewed" by the police is an arrest. Do you really think you can say no to being interrogated and not get hit with a resisting arrest charge?
So you would support banning handguns ?
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because there's been repeated school shootings and the adults don't seem to be doing anything about it.
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wasn't it true in the 90s? And the economy is way worse now than it was in the 90s. The 90s had the bloody .com boom.
Violent crime's down all around. The growing consensus seems to be getting lead out of the air is why. That means less violent youths and so less school shootings.
As for why they're getting more coverage? Not sure, we'd need more studies, and there's a ton of laws and rules in effect to discourage them (yeah, I know they're not banned outright, that's not how you suppress a thing. Ban it and you get Streisand effect).
If I had to make a guess I'd say the shootings are worse now. e.g. more deaths, more wounded. But that's barely even a guess.
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Uhm, yes. You can say no to being interrogated and you'll be held/bailed until trial. Never talk to the police, a jury trial is the only place you have the opportunity to talk, anything you say to the police can and will be used against you, never to your benefit.
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Obviously he should not be prosecuted. The fact that you are all on edge about this kind of funny answer by siri (the real culprit here, made by adults) means there is something to it. You could also look into the fact that schools get shot up on almost a daily basis, that is the problem that needs fixing. Not kids and their childish behaviours (because, you knoww, children be children)
Let's all jump on this kids back. Don't mind that siri happily serves up a list a schools and lets not mention that a school shooting is such a big threat in america because its so easy to pull off. In the words of dr strangelove, it requires only the will to do so.
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Kid threatens to shoot up school. Kid faces charges. As it should be.
Unless the threat/joke was actually credible, the kid should not have been charged. Believe it or not, there are ways to discipline children without involving the police and courts.
You know, if you really wanted to cut down on school shootings, maybe your culture should stop glorifying guns and violence. Just a crazy idea. Maybe, just maybe also control your guns better so that they aren't left out in the open for kids to grab, you know, be responsible with dangerous things you own.
But who am I kidding, there is an inevitable mod down waiting for even suggesting such sensible things. Thoughts and prayers to those modding this down, gourd press.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Found the fascist Democrat who thinks that anyone who has a slightly different opinion is a Nazi, and therefore is dehumanized, thus allowing them to be murdered by black-clad university students.
Nice job projecting, but your side supports actual nazis, (which are fascists), like dick spencer; is murdering brown-skinned people; and throwing children into concentration camps because their parents believed your propaganda.
Does anyone have a link to the actual social media post? Or a copy of it?
I think it's impossible to form a valid opinion on whether the kid should be charged or not without it.
"Grab them by the pussy" -- President of the United States of America
awww little bitch is being a little bitch
don't talk with my cock in your mouth, little bitch
Kid threatens to shoot up school. Kid faces charges. As it should be.
Unless the threat/joke was actually credible, the kid should not have been charged. Believe it or not, there are ways to discipline children without involving the police and courts.
You know, if you really wanted to cut down on school shootings, maybe your culture should stop glorifying guns and violence. Just a crazy idea. Maybe, just maybe also control your guns better so that they aren't left out in the open for kids to grab, you know, be responsible with dangerous things you own.
But who am I kidding, there is an inevitable mod down waiting for even suggesting such sensible things. Thoughts and prayers to those modding this down, gourd press.
One could also argue you could teach the children firearm safety and the value of human life at an early age.
Gun culture is nothing new, in fact its been around a lot longer than the "Fear culture" of firearms. Lack of knowledge is what kills.
However in one accord, the media is doing a grand gesture in playing into every would be in America, by televising these occurrences.
Back on topic though, in my opinion one would be act with no intent doesn't require jail time.
Just breeds more hate and confusion on the adolescent in play.
If he wasn't arrested then he could not have been "let go." When police hold you you are arrested. It's the meaning of the word. I don't see where the Valparaiso police did any of that.
>This kid needs counseling.
Why? Asking Siri awful questions is a typical party gag in 2019. I can all but guarantee the kid has never considered shooting his peers, but just figured it would be interesting to see what the "AI" came back with. The response he got was absolutely shocking, so he posted it. Because holy crap that response.
The knee jerk "put him in juvi!!!11one1" reaction is the worst part about this by orders of magnitude. Having a giggle has been illegal in the court of public opinion for a few decades now though, so I shouldn't be surprised.
Apparently it's not reasonable to expect adults to know the difference between a terrorist threat and teasing Siri, why hold 13 year olds to a higher standard?
Look, as long as there is blood, the crowds will be happy. Whose blood it is is largely irrelevant. This isn't about justice, it is about blood.
In this particular instance, the kid was the easier target. *shrug* Gotta love the world we live in...
"Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen
There is no "justice" to serve here. Only court fines and shattered dreams.
There is blood. That is sufficient.
Seen any witches recently?
"Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen