While many people hate Microsoft and make Bill Gates the butt of every joke, very few people who know him ever call his character into question. While the very mention of Ion Storm and John Romero make some people hopping mad, very few people who have met John hold him in such disregard. Maybe people need to make a better distinction between a "company" and a "person." They aren't the same thing.
I think you're right. This reminds me of the whole Wil Wheaton thing -- where people bash on him for years only to find out here that he's actually pretty cool. Personal attacks suck, and they're especially ignorant when you don't know anything about the person.
In addition, it seems like most people are attacking the Daikatana hype, and trying to say that the programers have 'hubris' -- when really, all the hype was just a function of the marketing department.
Company purchaser looks at options and says "Well, the open source one is way better, but who knows if they'll be around in a year or two. Hell, let's go with the company we know will be there."
When a closed source software company goes under, the source code is lost forever and that program will likely never be developed on again. But when an open-source developer abandons a project, anyone can pick it up. If noone does, you can just hire someone to.
When I was first getting into BBS's, I logged onto a local board and wanted to create a fake account. So, to make sure all the user information sounded real, I picked a name completely at random out of the phone book and entered in that persons' name, address, and phone number into the database.
Turns out, the name I picked at random out of the phone book just so happened to be the name of a sysop of another local BBS! The sysop of the BBS I was on was watching me log in and was friends with the guy. So, while I was looking around I was granted sysop-level access for no-apparent reason. Then, the local sysop broke into chat and started talking to me, saying, "Hey, Bryan, what's going on? How's you been?", etc., etc.
Anyway, I guess this post is waay to late to actually be read, but i'll still never get over that amazing coincidence. I mean.. I literally just opened the phone book and picked out a name at random.
I bet a lot of other Linux apps could easily be ported to Windows, and this would probably increase Linux's popularity quite a bit. It sounds like Gnumeric uses more of gnome that just gtk, though.
3. PR. Red Hat has been doing a good job, but IBM has only been preaching to the choir. We need good Linux PR.
My girlfriend says that she saw a Linux commerical from IBM just yesterday on tv.
It was something about the manager running around an empty server room crying, 'They're gone! They're all gone!' (referring to their servers). Then he gets the police down there and whines. Then a tech walks around the corner eating a donut and explains that they only have one server now instead of 100. They bought it from IBM and since it runs Linux it's x times faster/more efficient.
Well, the Founding Fathers _were_ traitors. They just had the nerves and the guns to get away with it. The Conferdate States of America had the nerves, but not the guns, so they failed.
Hmmm.... so this begs the question, were the Confederates patriots?
Here's the thing about writing your congressman: i'm not so sure it's that effective.
If I were a congressman, when laws were proposed, I would vote my conscience. Think about it: if you're a congressman, you are already into politics. You've probably been into politics for your whole life. You are hard-core enough about issues to actually run for office. That type of person already has their mind made up on an entire range of issues. Are they really going to change their mind for me? Probably not -- not unless it's an issue that they haven't really thought about before.
Take Judge Kaplan for example. I know, he's not a congressman, but it's only an example. If you've read the court transcripts for the 2600 case, it's quite clear that his mind is already made up. He is a professional judge, and he clearly tries to be unbiased, but he's enough into politics that he just can't help but have his own very strong opinions. Is writing the man begging him to change his mind really going to change anything?
Now you're right, I should at least try. Perhaps this is the clue for me to be more vocal to the right people.
Well, most of what you said is right of course. I suppose I just got caught up in the moment and lost perspective. I was only voicing how I felt at the time I read the story -- frustrated.
However, it's hard to be patriotic knowing that my private e-mail could be read, my phone could be tapped (without a warrant), if my computer is tapped, the anti-virus companies won't help me, my house could be searched (again, without a warrant), and I could be considered a terrorist and thrown in jail for pointing out a security flaw. Thank god i'm not a middle-eastern American, or I might be locked up without a trial.
And on top of all that, to now know that I can't even post a copy of source code on a website if I want to. I am a programmer. Computers are my life. When I get out of college, what if I decide to do crypto research? Suddenly there will be things that I might find that I will not be allowed to talk to anyone about, or I could be thrown in jail. It's a violation of my free speech. To say I only want to decrypt PDF's trivializes the issue. I want to be able to speak freely on the internet about things in my field.
I know, I know, i'm not starving, and I have a pretty good life. You're absolutely right. Now is a very good time. But I see where this country is going and I don't like it, and I suspect that this is only the beginning of a much larger shift for this country.
Well, so much for freedom.
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DMCA 2, Freedom 0
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Great, just great. This country is going to hell, no one cares, and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it. If they're going to take my freedoms away and not listen to reason, then I officially refuse to be patriotic about anything.
I just had to comment out one line of code and change my username so that it didn't have any spaces in it. It might not have all the bells and whistles of KDE or Gnome, but at least it takes up less memory. Probably faster, too.
Why are people saying that this isn't a GPL violation?
You must provide a copy of the source code when you redistribute software that is under the GPL license. Forked.net and Openosx.com did not do this. Not only that, but they were both charging for the software that they basically just downloaded and repackaged.
Furthermore, i'm pretty sure both parties violated parts A, B, and C of section 2.
2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:
a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change.
b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License.
c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively when run, you must cause it, when started running for such interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a notice that there is no warranty (or else, saying that you provide a warranty) and that users may redistribute the program under these conditions, and telling the user how to view a copy of this License. (Exception: if the Program itself is interactive but does not normally print such an announcement, your work based on the Program is not required to print an announcement.)
Anyway, it's pretty clear to me that there are a lot of Mac folks out there that haven't a clue about open source. It doesn't look like forked.net or openosx.com meant any harm, though. that they didn't mean any harm -- They just don't understand the GPL.
It looks like forked.net isn't charging for downloads anymore, and are trying to make it right. So it looks like it's all taken care of now.
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While many people hate Microsoft and make Bill Gates the butt of every joke, very few people who know him ever call his character into question. While the very mention of Ion Storm and John Romero make some people hopping mad, very few people who have met John hold him in such disregard. Maybe people need to make a better distinction between a "company" and a "person." They aren't the same thing.
I think you're right. This reminds me of the whole Wil Wheaton thing -- where people bash on him for years only to find out here that he's actually pretty cool. Personal attacks suck, and they're especially ignorant when you don't know anything about the person.
In addition, it seems like most people are attacking the Daikatana hype, and trying to say that the programers have 'hubris' -- when really, all the hype was just a function of the marketing department.
For those junkbuster users out there, like me, that get nothing but a blank page when clicking on that link, this link willget you past the ad:
s torm/index.html?x
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/01/02/ion_
Company purchaser looks at options and says "Well, the open source one is way better, but who knows if they'll be around in a year or two. Hell, let's go with the company we know will be there."
When a closed source software company goes under, the source code is lost forever and that program will likely never be developed on again. But when an open-source developer abandons a project, anyone can pick it up. If noone does, you can just hire someone to.
When I was first getting into BBS's, I logged onto a local board and wanted to create a fake account. So, to make sure all the user information sounded real, I picked a name completely at random out of the phone book and entered in that persons' name, address, and phone number into the database.
Turns out, the name I picked at random out of the phone book just so happened to be the name of a sysop of another local BBS! The sysop of the BBS I was on was watching me log in and was friends with the guy. So, while I was looking around I was granted sysop-level access for no-apparent reason. Then, the local sysop broke into chat and started talking to me, saying, "Hey, Bryan, what's going on? How's you been?", etc., etc.
Anyway, I guess this post is waay to late to actually be read, but i'll still never get over that amazing coincidence. I mean.. I literally just opened the phone book and picked out a name at random.
Well, GTK for Windows is available, as well as the free version of QT for Windows.
I bet a lot of other Linux apps could easily be ported to Windows, and this would probably increase Linux's popularity quite a bit. It sounds like Gnumeric uses more of gnome that just gtk, though.
You can also build Konqueror without kde using qt/embedded. I think there are a couple projects based around this.. one of them is called "Netraider".
Doh! I meant to say 'Quake 2'. Preview is now my friend...
Perhaps some enterprising programmer will take the Quake 3 engine and make it more easily configurable?
Why does every feel that it's necessary to bash the story posters? It almost seems like people are making a point of it on every story.
Can they not give their opinion on something? He's allowed to be wrong -- he's a person for chrissakes.
What happens when our aim is a few degrees off and Mars suddenly starts hurtling towards Earth?
Um, I hate to say this, but could somebody translate this bill into english for me?
At least Sun and IBM are admitting that the hole exists. Plus, IBM already has a fix out.
Well, you can just do what I do: Browse with Mozilla.
Hmm..there does appear to be at least some Fidonet postings archived.
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http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=fidon
Well, the stormtrooper helmet was actually used during filming. The Darth vader helmet was just cast from a mold of an original.
Junkbuster refused to show me the page at all. So for those with similar problems, this link gets you past the ad:
d band_bermuda/index.html?x
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/12/06/broa
3. PR. Red Hat has been doing a good job, but IBM has only been preaching to the choir. We need good Linux PR.
My girlfriend says that she saw a Linux commerical from IBM just yesterday on tv.
It was something about the manager running around an empty server room crying, 'They're gone! They're all gone!' (referring to their servers). Then he gets the police down there and whines. Then a tech walks around the corner eating a donut and explains that they only have one server now instead of 100. They bought it from IBM and since it runs Linux it's x times faster/more efficient.
Well, the Founding Fathers _were_ traitors. They just had the nerves and the guns to get away with it. The Conferdate States of America had the nerves, but not the guns, so they failed.
Hmmm.... so this begs the question, were the Confederates patriots?
Here's the thing about writing your congressman: i'm not so sure it's that effective.
If I were a congressman, when laws were proposed, I would vote my conscience. Think about it: if you're a congressman, you are already into politics. You've probably been into politics for your whole life. You are hard-core enough about issues to actually run for office. That type of person already has their mind made up on an entire range of issues. Are they really going to change their mind for me? Probably not -- not unless it's an issue that they haven't really thought about before.
Take Judge Kaplan for example. I know, he's not a congressman, but it's only an example. If you've read the court transcripts for the 2600 case, it's quite clear that his mind is already made up. He is a professional judge, and he clearly tries to be unbiased, but he's enough into politics that he just can't help but have his own very strong opinions. Is writing the man begging him to change his mind really going to change anything?
Now you're right, I should at least try. Perhaps this is the clue for me to be more vocal to the right people.
Well, most of what you said is right of course. I suppose I just got caught up in the moment and lost perspective. I was only voicing how I felt at the time I read the story -- frustrated.
However, it's hard to be patriotic knowing that my private e-mail could be read, my phone could be tapped (without a warrant), if my computer is tapped, the anti-virus companies won't help me, my house could be searched (again, without a warrant), and I could be considered a terrorist and thrown in jail for pointing out a security flaw. Thank god i'm not a middle-eastern American, or I might be locked up without a trial.
And on top of all that, to now know that I can't even post a copy of source code on a website if I want to. I am a programmer. Computers are my life. When I get out of college, what if I decide to do crypto research? Suddenly there will be things that I might find that I will not be allowed to talk to anyone about, or I could be thrown in jail. It's a violation of my free speech. To say I only want to decrypt PDF's trivializes the issue. I want to be able to speak freely on the internet about things in my field.
I know, I know, i'm not starving, and I have a pretty good life. You're absolutely right. Now is a very good time. But I see where this country is going and I don't like it, and I suspect that this is only the beginning of a much larger shift for this country.
Great, just great. This country is going to hell, no one cares, and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it. If they're going to take my freedoms away and not listen to reason, then I officially refuse to be patriotic about anything.
-- juju
I managed to get Windowmaker up and running on Cygwin, under Window 98.
Check it out.
I just had to comment out one line of code and change my username so that it didn't have any spaces in it. It might not have all the bells and whistles of KDE or Gnome, but at least it takes up less memory. Probably faster, too.
-- juju
So, NBC is now going to donate $10,000 to the EFF. Does anyone else find this kinda funny? :)
Those are the words of the submitter, m_ilya.
All Timothy said was, "Check out the posting on the Dot for some more links."
You must provide a copy of the source code when you redistribute software that is under the GPL license. Forked.net and Openosx.com did not do this. Not only that, but they were both charging for the software that they basically just downloaded and repackaged.
Furthermore, i'm pretty sure both parties violated parts A, B, and C of section 2.
From the GPL
Anyway, it's pretty clear to me that there are a lot of Mac folks out there that haven't a clue about open source. It doesn't look like forked.net or openosx.com meant any harm, though. that they didn't mean any harm -- They just don't understand the GPL.
It looks like forked.net isn't charging for downloads anymore, and are trying to make it right. So it looks like it's all taken care of now.