...(i don't know anybody in real life who actually owns their copy of windows, nor do i know anybody who owned a copy of win 3.11 or even dos for that matter, they just seemed to "appear" on burnt cdr's or piles of floppies)
You don't have many friends then. Meet me for a cup of coffee sometime and I'll show my IBM PC DOS 5.0, Win 3.1, Win95 upgrade (very buggy non A version & no IE), Win CE 2.1, Office 97 (it's a wife must have item), Partition Magic, and Cauldra Linux software (the non buggy upgrade!). All are original software, not copies. I havent' upgraded WIN 9X since they tied IE to it.
I would guess it would be handled as it is now with manufactures. The machines are put in a "ready to run windows for the first time" state. The customer will need to connect to the internet to register giving MSFT their personal sensitive information. If you don't have an ISP, the trial version of MSN and AOL are there as always. (I bet corprate users will be upset as they have to peel all this stuff out) If not registered in like 2 or 3 days, it stays on a nag screen and locks you out.
Ang get constant product returns for refund and service calls and.... Computer manufactures who can't handle the cost of customer support will either fold or use an alternate! It's the hardware manufactures that will get burnt on this. It's the next step to making your PC a sealed digital TV cable box.
No thanks. I'm not buying crippleware, hardware or software, no matter how cool it seems otherwise
Others will! It will be just like DVD's. VHS is being replaced with DVD's. Try to find a movie not CSS encoded and region free. I heard analog TV is scheduled to go off the airwaves in the USA in 2006. Digital TV will all be encryption protected by law. Your choice is to do wihout or join in. Good luck. I have the same problem. I can't rent Laser Disks at my local video store anymore. They were not copy protected. They were too expensive to buy. I bought the player when they promised laser disks woud be cheaper than videotape because they could be cheaply stamped in mass. Tape became cheaper and laser disks became more expensive sold as premium content. Studios simply refused to provide in that format because they were afraid the media would last too long. Therefore laser disks had very limited selection and very high prices due to inflated royalties. (unless you bought the famous titles like "how to watch NFL football and how to play golf") It never became a mass market item.
Not always, but often enough. It mostly did go to poor neighborhoods and never to the elite part of town. How ever it did go to some nice country homes right on the riverbank once. About 1/4 were from cars. They were most likely to initiate flame wars thinking they were unfindable. Fortunately, they usualy parked someplace making rapid triangulation very easy. With music blaring, they seldom noticed my arrival, plate copy and departure. (I don't hang about to get shot at or identified) The DF stuff was descrete and looked like twin mirror mount trucker antennas. It wasn't the obvious loop or beam antenna. Later they get the friendly letter on the front door and under the wiper blade. Another advantage then over DOS now was the guy you were looking for was within 20 miles.
Back in the 70's the same thing happened, but it was called CB radio. Linear amplifiers and music were the common D. O. S. attacks after a flame war got started. My effective defence was a radio direction finder. Leaving a note on the offenders door worked wonders as it proved the attack was not as anonymous as they originaly thought. The difference then was they couldn't use my radio in a D.D.O.S. attack where now computing services are stolen and used in the attack. I got out of CB radio and never got into chat rooms. I got better things to do.
This begs a question: why will the hard drive OEMs design, manufacture, and distribute their crypto module for free?
I think the bill of goods was sold to the likes of TVIO and they are asking the HD manufactures to provide the hardware so TVIO can cut deals with content providers. Without content deals, they can't sell their products. Content providers will not promise releases without concessions to protect content. After the content is pay per view, you will need an enabled hard drive (read better does more feature rich) as it is compatible with the new content. Sheeple will need to get the latest and greatest. Who wants a machine incapable of doing something? It's all in the marketing!
P. T. Barnum was right! There is a sucker born every minute.
Hmm, I guess I'll do without TV and only use the internet & my tapes. Maybe I'll loose the internet to a cable company later, but I hope to push it out enough years that I'm pushing up daisies by the time it happens. Enough people still time shift with tape that all digital will be delayed.
Purchased content encrypted to your hard drive serial number won't play on a hard drive with the wrong serial number. Any other content will be considered pirated. See article "4C May Back Down On Hard-Disk Copy Protection" on Jan 7 for more info. Content in the future will be purchased and streamed encoded to your hard drive serial number so sniffed streams can't be played on another machine other than the target (buyer). If you like this business model, buy the stuff and the other stuff will vanish as they find out how to make money on the internet. When the internet is just like Cable TV with your decoder hard drive box, then content will be pay per play. I am voting against it with my pocketbook. I don't use any audio except CD's and MP3's. I do not use any format that can lock files into pay to play (Liquid Audio & others is a no-no). I won't buy a digital monitor or digital TV that has a feature of playing encrypted content.
Don't make the internet another Cable TV franchise and my computer a cable box!
Don't laugh, it's here! I got a pre approved credit card application in the mail Friday. It is smart chip enabled and they will send me a free smart card reader to hook up to my computer so I can use the card safely on the internet! The aplication is now paper dust so I can't say who it was from. I doubt the reader has a Linux driver and I didn't ask. I never impulse buy anything on the internet. If I am interested in anything, I research the source to prevent fraud. If they aren't also in the yellow pages with address, 800 number, fax number, etc., it is an automatic no sale. I do buy stuff I find, but I phone in after I find them in the yellow pages. The last thing ordered, if you are interested was bulk ink for my inkjet printer.
Think, If you were an ISP in this arena, would you provide service to a college town (expensive content porn, music, & videos used at high bandwidth) or to someplace in the farmbelt (news,sports weather all on dialup)?
To work, it would have to be just like cable TV. Basic cable is cheap. Premimum (music & video) extra + pay per view. I see multi tier service just like cable TV in the internet future. The trick is to get the ISP's to foot the bill to install the billing/access infastructure.
Think revolt. State this is the same thing as a CPU ID number that can be tracked anywhere on the web. Remember to receive any secure content, you will have to provede the HDID (hard drive ID) to encode the file (at the server) for your hard drive. You don't think they will send you the unencoded file that can be sniffed and stored on a CD then installed to a bunch of machines do you? Any file you get off the internet will be encoded with your HDID for your specific hard drive. Where are the privacy advocates? Where is the outrage? This is worse than any CPUID.
The best example I saw was part of a heating/cooling system. Part of the programming took information on how warm, how bright it was outside and anticipating it's effect on the inside. It would dim lights by the windows when it became bright outside while brightning lights away from the windows to reduce glare. Heat was reduced near sunny windows to prevent it from becomming too warm, etc. On a dull day heat is increased near the windows some to compensate for the lack of solar heat and further adjusted by the outside tempature. The result was very comfortable without all the usual hot and cold drafty spots. On mild cool days, the boiler would run at a cooler tempature for effeciency. On warm days the AC would run on low speed etc.
This was not your average thermostat on the wall on/off cycle system.
I think the biggest difference is just the job title. It is nothing more than a title. It is what you call the guy in charge of the computer department. Another title for this position is Head of Information Services. Any good size company has someone in charge of the overall corporate network computing infastructure and decides what software to use, what servers to use and what software the employees have on the desk top. He oversees the team that deploys the company network solution, manages site licenses etc. A title is not cast in stone for the person in this position.
Um... Am I missing something here? Isn't the new Digital TV's encrypted all the way to the diaplay? Didn't I see something about a law that just passed requiring all Digital TV's to use encryption? It's law. To vote against it with your pocket book, don't buy any digital TV. It's true this will set back the introduction of digital TV if nobody buys it, but don't expect to get it any other way, as it is now illegal to make a non encrypted digital TV. The TV industry learned from the RIO and are not allowing a repeat with digital TV.
1 is what are you going to do with the copy? It can't be posted and shared over the internet. This limits how far your copies can go. The tape copy can not be copied without loss unlike a digital copy.
2 To make sure the copy is poor, the output of DVD players is Macrovision encoded ensuring the recording VCR will have fits with the signal. Try it. It is required of VCR manufactures to have a non defeatable AGC that the Macrovision signal will mess up. It is part of the VHS tm. license. You will get a copy that flashes in brightness, the color changes and the video drops out.
In other words, you get what you pay for. If you buy SMDI stuff, you will get more SMDI stuff. I vote with my pocketbook. I will not buy any SDMI audio player, ripper, converter etc. Any content sold in ANY SDMI format will not be purchased by me. If you want to sell music to me, put it on Vinyl, CD, or any other format that can fully be used freely on all my MP3 devices. I am voting on this one. Please do not vote against me. I am voting for less expensive players that use smaller files that will work in my car, computer and personal MP3 player.
Hmmm, I think both AMD and Intel have an interesting problem in the low priced chips department. How to beat the other guy's price/performance with the low priced chips to take market share, but not compete with their own higher priced performance chips. I don't think Intel would like the Celeron competing with the Pentium III line. One chip is there to compete for market share, (Duron & Celeron) and the other is to make the money (Athelon & Pentium III & 4). Wouldn't want the market share competition to cut too deep into the profit chips, hence the limited cache & FSB performance in the budget line.
People in the same area would also be fried, so having a phone survive is unimportant. However having a working phone that could be carried out of the area (roam) after an EPT attack to a part of the network still up could be useful.
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If it won't run on my non internet connected machines, then it's invasive.
What, haven't your ever gotten a PC with Microsoft Works installed? It doesn't get any more coach than that.
You don't have many friends then. Meet me for a cup of coffee sometime and I'll show my IBM PC DOS 5.0, Win 3.1, Win95 upgrade (very buggy non A version & no IE), Win CE 2.1, Office 97 (it's a wife must have item), Partition Magic, and Cauldra Linux software (the non buggy upgrade!). All are original software, not copies. I havent' upgraded WIN 9X since they tied IE to it.
Fast like 8-10 years isn't funny.
I would guess it would be handled as it is now with manufactures. The machines are put in a "ready to run windows for the first time" state. The customer will need to connect to the internet to register giving MSFT their personal sensitive information. If you don't have an ISP, the trial version of MSN and AOL are there as always. (I bet corprate users will be upset as they have to peel all this stuff out) If not registered in like 2 or 3 days, it stays on a nag screen and locks you out.
Ang get constant product returns for refund and service calls and.... Computer manufactures who can't handle the cost of customer support will either fold or use an alternate! It's the hardware manufactures that will get burnt on this. It's the next step to making your PC a sealed digital TV cable box.
Hmm, Maybe it's time to ask "what part of NO do you not understand"
Others will! It will be just like DVD's. VHS is being replaced with DVD's. Try to find a movie not CSS encoded and region free. I heard analog TV is scheduled to go off the airwaves in the USA in 2006. Digital TV will all be encryption protected by law. Your choice is to do wihout or join in. Good luck. I have the same problem. I can't rent Laser Disks at my local video store anymore. They were not copy protected. They were too expensive to buy. I bought the player when they promised laser disks woud be cheaper than videotape because they could be cheaply stamped in mass. Tape became cheaper and laser disks became more expensive sold as premium content. Studios simply refused to provide in that format because they were afraid the media would last too long. Therefore laser disks had very limited selection and very high prices due to inflated royalties. (unless you bought the famous titles like "how to watch NFL football and how to play golf") It never became a mass market item.
Not always, but often enough. It mostly did go to poor neighborhoods and never to the elite part of town. How ever it did go to some nice country homes right on the riverbank once. About 1/4 were from cars. They were most likely to initiate flame wars thinking they were unfindable. Fortunately, they usualy parked someplace making rapid triangulation very easy. With music blaring, they seldom noticed my arrival, plate copy and departure. (I don't hang about to get shot at or identified) The DF stuff was descrete and looked like twin mirror mount trucker antennas. It wasn't the obvious loop or beam antenna. Later they get the friendly letter on the front door and under the wiper blade. Another advantage then over DOS now was the guy you were looking for was within 20 miles.
Back in the 70's the same thing happened, but it was called CB radio. Linear amplifiers and music were the common D. O. S. attacks after a flame war got started. My effective defence was a radio direction finder. Leaving a note on the offenders door worked wonders as it proved the attack was not as anonymous as they originaly thought. The difference then was they couldn't use my radio in a D.D.O.S. attack where now computing services are stolen and used in the attack. I got out of CB radio and never got into chat rooms. I got better things to do.
I think the bill of goods was sold to the likes of TVIO and they are asking the HD manufactures to provide the hardware so TVIO can cut deals with content providers. Without content deals, they can't sell their products. Content providers will not promise releases without concessions to protect content. After the content is pay per view, you will need an enabled hard drive (read better does more feature rich) as it is compatible with the new content. Sheeple will need to get the latest and greatest. Who wants a machine incapable of doing something? It's all in the marketing!
P. T. Barnum was right! There is a sucker born every minute.
Hmm, I guess I'll do without TV and only use the internet & my tapes. Maybe I'll loose the internet to a cable company later, but I hope to push it out enough years that I'm pushing up daisies by the time it happens. Enough people still time shift with tape that all digital will be delayed.
Don't make the internet another Cable TV franchise and my computer a cable box!
Don't laugh, it's here! I got a pre approved credit card application in the mail Friday. It is smart chip enabled and they will send me a free smart card reader to hook up to my computer so I can use the card safely on the internet! The aplication is now paper dust so I can't say who it was from. I doubt the reader has a Linux driver and I didn't ask. I never impulse buy anything on the internet. If I am interested in anything, I research the source to prevent fraud. If they aren't also in the yellow pages with address, 800 number, fax number, etc., it is an automatic no sale. I do buy stuff I find, but I phone in after I find them in the yellow pages. The last thing ordered, if you are interested was bulk ink for my inkjet printer.
To work, it would have to be just like cable TV. Basic cable is cheap. Premimum (music & video) extra + pay per view. I see multi tier service just like cable TV in the internet future. The trick is to get the ISP's to foot the bill to install the billing/access infastructure.
Think revolt. State this is the same thing as a CPU ID number that can be tracked anywhere on the web. Remember to receive any secure content, you will have to provede the HDID (hard drive ID) to encode the file (at the server) for your hard drive. You don't think they will send you the unencoded file that can be sniffed and stored on a CD then installed to a bunch of machines do you? Any file you get off the internet will be encoded with your HDID for your specific hard drive. Where are the privacy advocates? Where is the outrage? This is worse than any CPUID.
The best example I saw was part of a heating/cooling system. Part of the programming took information on how warm, how bright it was outside and anticipating it's effect on the inside. It would dim lights by the windows when it became bright outside while brightning lights away from the windows to reduce glare. Heat was reduced near sunny windows to prevent it from becomming too warm, etc. On a dull day heat is increased near the windows some to compensate for the lack of solar heat and further adjusted by the outside tempature. The result was very comfortable without all the usual hot and cold drafty spots. On mild cool days, the boiler would run at a cooler tempature for effeciency. On warm days the AC would run on low speed etc. This was not your average thermostat on the wall on/off cycle system.
I think the biggest difference is just the job title. It is nothing more than a title. It is what you call the guy in charge of the computer department. Another title for this position is Head of Information Services. Any good size company has someone in charge of the overall corporate network computing infastructure and decides what software to use, what servers to use and what software the employees have on the desk top. He oversees the team that deploys the company network solution, manages site licenses etc. A title is not cast in stone for the person in this position.
Um... Am I missing something here? Isn't the new Digital TV's encrypted all the way to the diaplay? Didn't I see something about a law that just passed requiring all Digital TV's to use encryption? It's law. To vote against it with your pocket book, don't buy any digital TV. It's true this will set back the introduction of digital TV if nobody buys it, but don't expect to get it any other way, as it is now illegal to make a non encrypted digital TV. The TV industry learned from the RIO and are not allowing a repeat with digital TV.
1 is what are you going to do with the copy? It can't be posted and shared over the internet. This limits how far your copies can go. The tape copy can not be copied without loss unlike a digital copy.
2 To make sure the copy is poor, the output of DVD players is Macrovision encoded ensuring the recording VCR will have fits with the signal. Try it. It is required of VCR manufactures to have a non defeatable AGC that the Macrovision signal will mess up. It is part of the VHS tm. license. You will get a copy that flashes in brightness, the color changes and the video drops out.
Don't bloat and lock the music. I won't buy it.
It is Content Protection for Recordable Media. I thought someone might want to know.
Hmmm, I think both AMD and Intel have an interesting problem in the low priced chips department. How to beat the other guy's price/performance with the low priced chips to take market share, but not compete with their own higher priced performance chips. I don't think Intel would like the Celeron competing with the Pentium III line. One chip is there to compete for market share, (Duron & Celeron) and the other is to make the money (Athelon & Pentium III & 4). Wouldn't want the market share competition to cut too deep into the profit chips, hence the limited cache & FSB performance in the budget line.
People in the same area would also be fried, so having a phone survive is unimportant. However having a working phone that could be carried out of the area (roam) after an EPT attack to a part of the network still up could be useful.
Looks like a real use for the hubble mirror