Hmm, could it be that AMD knew NVidia would announce this driver and slipped in the video announcement just ahead of it? As it stands, AMD still looks like the leader.
Yeah, makes me want to love bomb both of them. Only thing I can say is, when the new game is outdoing each other in openness, everybody is a winner. Better Linux support means more computer parts sold, end of story. It's not a zero sum game.
I "get" open source just fine, its great for small projects but for anything of any size where cooperation is required it shows its true colors, you get a bunch of little fiefdoms with BIG egos run by guys like Ulrich Drepper, so I "get" it just fine.
Oh, in other words, just like industry in general? Except in the open making it much easier for a self asborbed wag like yourself to criticize the warts, meanwhile missing the entire "open" part.
I stand by my comment: you don't quite get it. But I must admit, you're an entertaining bystander. And actually, I noticed that you're starting to get it. Better watch that, the dark side needs you. And we need the dark side too, it's very efficient at submitting bug reports.
...its Torvalds constant fiddling that makes you get stuck on old versions NOT AMD or anybody else. Hell name another OS that does NOT have an ABI...
Name another OS that rules the world in nearly every segment except desktop. Linus is crazy like a fox. Remember, you are only whining about the module ABI. The userspace ABI is an entirely different story. Linus has rather famously and aggressively defended the userspace ABI on several occasions recently, as he always has.
I'm running AMD GPUs of several generations, up to but not including southern islands. Stability is excellent, both for open source and catalyst. I usually run the open source drivers just for the hands-free upgrading, this is worth more to me at the moment than the extra performance from Catalyst. Which gap is steadily closing by the way, the recent release of parallel DMA specs will probably bring things close to parity. Southern Islands is more of a pain, but I can always run Catalyst if I want. Frankly, 6xxx chips work so well for me I don't mind waiting.
you can't give away somebody else's IP without getting sued and possibly having your chips blacklisted? For those that don't know HDCP is property of Intel which means AMD had to sign a license agreement and NDA to allow their systems to support HDCP.
Your thesis is that Intel can restrict distribution of source code because they have IP on HDCP? I would like to see them try it. Three word: restraint of trade. If US watchdogs won't enforce, EU will.
Actually, the community works pretty hard for AMD and they know it. You know it too. AMD is giving back not just out of gratitude but because it is good for the bottom line.
so in short, security by obscurity according to you
According to me? So long as you have both the encrypted data and the key like a BluRay disc and a BluRay player then all DRM is clearly security by obscurity...
At this exact point I zone out and disregard everything you have to say about security, now or ever. You just displayed for the world your complete ignorance of the basics of security, and more specifically, of DRM. No wonder Microsoft is the way it is. Same goes for Hairyfeet by the way.
Basilbrush posted eight times to this thread. You know what happens when somebody turns on the light in a roach infested house? Roaches sitting all over the floor suddenly scuttle away in all directions and disappear so fast you might not be sure they were really there. A post like this one is the reverse: all the Apple roaches suddenly scuttle out from their hiding places into the middle of the room and sit there acting roachlike, basking in their own roachness. After a while the roach smell becomes unbearable so normal people leave.
The North Koreans must know this too, so what about sheer numbers of artillery on their side?
Big guns cost serious money. It's much cheaper to put in just enough guns to be credible then talk the threat up as much as possible. As for sheer numbers, I suppose the high water mark was World War 1, after the role of artillery diminished as mobile armour because the most important factor, and later, air power. Artillery made a comeback in the form of missiles, but the problem for North Korea there is once again cost. Inaccurate missiles are even less effective than shells.
In two hours, NK could pretty well level Seoul. I think that's understood by both sides as well.
That is complete bull that you pulled out of your ass. I do not think you bothered to take even a cursory look at the geography of Seoul. Damage, yes. Level with conventional artillery... not on God's green earth. Not without nukes, and that of course is the issue.
the second the first rounds are fired in earnest by either side or the first troops cross the DMZ, Seoul is going to be leveled by the massive, emplaced and already aimed, artillery barrage that NK has had set up for decades
Nonsense. Just surf on in to Seoul with google street view and the first thing you will notice is that it has hardly any tall buildings. It is a huge sprawling expanse of low concrete and steel buildings. An artillery barrage to level it would take months or years like in Syria, and that just isn't going to happen. A few hours at most, and Seoul is so big that the damage would be only a small fraction. And at the first sign of trouble the whole population will be in the subways and other prepared shelters. Don't imagine that this scenario has not been anticipated.
Millions of people stand to get killed - Seoul is targetted by a *huge* collection of conventional artillery...
The incoming artillery would have maybe an hour or two to do its evil until silenced by B1s and South Korea's not insignificant anti-artillary resources. This fact is well understood by North Korea's planners. North Korea's only realistic mass murder option is nuclear, with the certainty of an immediate and overwhelming response, including from China which is no more comfortable than anyone else having a nuclear armed madman on its doorstep.
This question has to be asked, exactly in that form.
Wow, I am just astounded at the depth of moral decrepitude evidenced by all the downmodding of people who are saying exactly the same thing. Here, let me add my two bits: Mr Myhrvold, we know it's you and your minions. All you accomplish by your detestable behavior is to confirm your true nature to any observer who was not quite sure.
And for what it is worth, yes, I agree that the OP question must be asked in exactly that form. Anything less would be intellectually dishonest.
You think he has minions? On slashdot? Who happen to have modpoints to spend here?
Or, an explanation could be that not everyone (even everyone on slashdot) subscribes to the groupthink that anyone making money with patents is inherently evil. But no way, that's not it.
People who respond to their critics by trying to suppress them are inherently evil, and so are people who defend that behavior by trying to deflect. No normal person goes methodically hunting for every single critical comment and methodically mods them down to -1. Such slimy behavior is pretty much the exclusive preserve of paid "PR" toadies who sink significant time into farming karma just so they can jump in and "manage" articles about their clients. Please do not be disingenuous. This is par for the course for the likes of Microsoft and the cynical people who learned to abandon their ethics there.
This question has to be asked, exactly in that form.
Wow, I am just astounded at the depth of moral decrepitude evidenced by all the downmodding of people who are saying exactly the same thing. Here, let me add my two bits: Mr Myhrvold, we know it's you and your minions. All you accomplish by your detestable behavior is to confirm your true nature to any observer who was not quite sure.
And for what it is worth, yes, I agree that the OP question must be asked in exactly that form. Anything less would be intellectually dishonest.
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What makes you so sure that Steve is still buried?
In its Android incarnation alone, Linux outsells Microsoft and Apple. Then there's the cloud...
Hmm, could it be that AMD knew NVidia would announce this driver and slipped in the video announcement just ahead of it? As it stands, AMD still looks like the leader.
Yeah, makes me want to love bomb both of them. Only thing I can say is, when the new game is outdoing each other in openness, everybody is a winner. Better Linux support means more computer parts sold, end of story. It's not a zero sum game.
I "get" open source just fine, its great for small projects but for anything of any size where cooperation is required it shows its true colors, you get a bunch of little fiefdoms with BIG egos run by guys like Ulrich Drepper, so I "get" it just fine.
Oh, in other words, just like industry in general? Except in the open making it much easier for a self asborbed wag like yourself to criticize the warts, meanwhile missing the entire "open" part.
I stand by my comment: you don't quite get it. But I must admit, you're an entertaining bystander. And actually, I noticed that you're starting to get it. Better watch that, the dark side needs you. And we need the dark side too, it's very efficient at submitting bug reports.
...its Torvalds constant fiddling that makes you get stuck on old versions NOT AMD or anybody else. Hell name another OS that does NOT have an ABI...
Name another OS that rules the world in nearly every segment except desktop. Linus is crazy like a fox. Remember, you are only whining about the module ABI. The userspace ABI is an entirely different story. Linus has rather famously and aggressively defended the userspace ABI on several occasions recently, as he always has.
I'm running AMD GPUs of several generations, up to but not including southern islands. Stability is excellent, both for open source and catalyst. I usually run the open source drivers just for the hands-free upgrading, this is worth more to me at the moment than the extra performance from Catalyst. Which gap is steadily closing by the way, the recent release of parallel DMA specs will probably bring things close to parity. Southern Islands is more of a pain, but I can always run Catalyst if I want. Frankly, 6xxx chips work so well for me I don't mind waiting.
Intel's open source alignment is not due to software vs hardware so much as the fact that Linux rules the massive and growing cloud server market.
you can't give away somebody else's IP without getting sued and possibly having your chips blacklisted? For those that don't know HDCP is property of Intel which means AMD had to sign a license agreement and NDA to allow their systems to support HDCP.
Your thesis is that Intel can restrict distribution of source code because they have IP on HDCP? I would like to see them try it. Three word: restraint of trade. If US watchdogs won't enforce, EU will.
Ah, same doesn't go for Hairyfeet. Hairyfeet actually gets DRM unlike dunce kjella. Doesn't quite get the open source community though.
Actually, the community works pretty hard for AMD and they know it. You know it too. AMD is giving back not just out of gratitude but because it is good for the bottom line.
so in short, security by obscurity according to you
According to me? So long as you have both the encrypted data and the key like a BluRay disc and a BluRay player then all DRM is clearly security by obscurity...
At this exact point I zone out and disregard everything you have to say about security, now or ever. You just displayed for the world your complete ignorance of the basics of security, and more specifically, of DRM. No wonder Microsoft is the way it is. Same goes for Hairyfeet by the way.
so in short, security by obscurity according to you
Basilbrush posted eight times to this thread. You know what happens when somebody turns on the light in a roach infested house? Roaches sitting all over the floor suddenly scuttle away in all directions and disappear so fast you might not be sure they were really there. A post like this one is the reverse: all the Apple roaches suddenly scuttle out from their hiding places into the middle of the room and sit there acting roachlike, basking in their own roachness. After a while the roach smell becomes unbearable so normal people leave.
The North Koreans must know this too, so what about sheer numbers of artillery on their side?
Big guns cost serious money. It's much cheaper to put in just enough guns to be credible then talk the threat up as much as possible. As for sheer numbers, I suppose the high water mark was World War 1, after the role of artillery diminished as mobile armour because the most important factor, and later, air power. Artillery made a comeback in the form of missiles, but the problem for North Korea there is once again cost. Inaccurate missiles are even less effective than shells.
See here for a few details of one of the greatest failed artillery barrages ever.
In two hours, NK could pretty well level Seoul. I think that's understood by both sides as well.
That is complete bull that you pulled out of your ass. I do not think you bothered to take even a cursory look at the geography of Seoul. Damage, yes. Level with conventional artillery... not on God's green earth. Not without nukes, and that of course is the issue.
China does not want Korea unified under an nominal U.S. ally
China's fear of living with a nuclear armed despot on its doorstep dwarves its fear of a unified Korea.
the second the first rounds are fired in earnest by either side or the first troops cross the DMZ, Seoul is going to be leveled by the massive, emplaced and already aimed, artillery barrage that NK has had set up for decades
Nonsense. Just surf on in to Seoul with google street view and the first thing you will notice is that it has hardly any tall buildings. It is a huge sprawling expanse of low concrete and steel buildings. An artillery barrage to level it would take months or years like in Syria, and that just isn't going to happen. A few hours at most, and Seoul is so big that the damage would be only a small fraction. And at the first sign of trouble the whole population will be in the subways and other prepared shelters. Don't imagine that this scenario has not been anticipated.
Millions of people stand to get killed - Seoul is targetted by a *huge* collection of conventional artillery...
The incoming artillery would have maybe an hour or two to do its evil until silenced by B1s and South Korea's not insignificant anti-artillary resources. This fact is well understood by North Korea's planners. North Korea's only realistic mass murder option is nuclear, with the certainty of an immediate and overwhelming response, including from China which is no more comfortable than anyone else having a nuclear armed madman on its doorstep.
This question has to be asked, exactly in that form.
Wow, I am just astounded at the depth of moral decrepitude evidenced by all the downmodding of people who are saying exactly the same thing. Here, let me add my two bits: Mr Myhrvold, we know it's you and your minions. All you accomplish by your detestable behavior is to confirm your true nature to any observer who was not quite sure.
And for what it is worth, yes, I agree that the OP question must be asked in exactly that form. Anything less would be intellectually dishonest.
You think he has minions? On slashdot? Who happen to have modpoints to spend here?
Or, an explanation could be that not everyone (even everyone on slashdot) subscribes to the groupthink that anyone making money with patents is inherently evil. But no way, that's not it.
People who respond to their critics by trying to suppress them are inherently evil, and so are people who defend that behavior by trying to deflect. No normal person goes methodically hunting for every single critical comment and methodically mods them down to -1. Such slimy behavior is pretty much the exclusive preserve of paid "PR" toadies who sink significant time into farming karma just so they can jump in and "manage" articles about their clients. Please do not be disingenuous. This is par for the course for the likes of Microsoft and the cynical people who learned to abandon their ethics there.
Hi Nathan, is that you?
Hey mods, Troll is not code for I disagree.
They aren't real mods, they are working for Mr Myhrvold.
This question has to be asked, exactly in that form.
Wow, I am just astounded at the depth of moral decrepitude evidenced by all the downmodding of people who are saying exactly the same thing. Here, let me add my two bits: Mr Myhrvold, we know it's you and your minions. All you accomplish by your detestable behavior is to confirm your true nature to any observer who was not quite sure.
And for what it is worth, yes, I agree that the OP question must be asked in exactly that form. Anything less would be intellectually dishonest.
Something tells me that whatever PR machine ginned up this interview wasn't in touch with IV's negative publicity. Interview soon to be cancelled...
Apparently that PR machine still works well enough to pull off a few targeted astromods.
I vote for this question to be asked 10 times and nothing else.
Underrated.