Apple in this exact example has shown they want to control their own ecosystem. It's the exact same reason they developed WebKit and switched to LLVM.
Apple failed at controlling Webkit because Google got fed up with Apple's governance and forked it (Blink) and rapidly made Webkit irrelevant, now used by Safari and nobody else. Apple will eventually give up backporting Blink improvements and repurpose their engineers officially as Blink contributors. Apple has to play nice with LLVM or that history will play out again the same way.
Unlike HTML and Compiler tech, Apple has no credible business case for a bespoke 3D library. In fact there is a strong case to the contrary, as proved by the Autodesk pullout.
Time Cook should start reading Slashdot, right? So coulda avoided this embarrassing mistake. Looking forward to the upcoming walkback, how can Apple PR hacks possibly spin that as anything other than ignominious capitulation?
A marginal design on a mature process can still have poor yield.
There are no credible reports of that, instead Intel draws attention to how successful they have been with incremental improvements at 14nm. But there are pervasive reports, including from Intel, of problems at 10nm. You're just throwing shit at the wall to see if it sticks.
A single quarter blip does not a trend make. The home PC market continued its trip south and the biz segment will be following along shortly. These days, biz is about texting on your Android phone. How many laptop bags do you see in the wild? Be honest.
You'll be doing it with Microsoft Office on Android.
Only a complete idiot would pay for that garbage instead of using Libreoffice for free. But face the facts: how many dissertations did you write last week, or in your entire life?
"Unknown" and "other" both tend to be really big in these web stats. Identifying as googlebot to counter cloaking newsites is a thing, that would be mostly firefox meaning mostly Linux.
Can you tell me how I can get my company to accept and follow policies that were only discussed via instant messages and never actually typed up into a formal document?
That mostly happens on the web now, not in a word processor. And what does "formal document" mean? Offset printed on legal size sheets, impressed with the corporate seal? Get with it.
And it's usually a mistake to accept the claims of a random shill without verifying. What does "if you want to do it yourself" mean? The $299 is for "developer workstation" including "incident reports" (means access to Redhat's bugzilla?) not a "workstation license". In fact, Redhat doesn't sell a "license", they sell a "workstation" for $49. Presumably you pay for Redhat putting it onto a disk because "license" is a loaded term, sounding too much like additional restrictions.
Redhat is in the bottled water business... what they sell is free, you pay for getting it conveniently in a bottle with somebody at least minimally attesting as to its quality. Funny business that, selling free stuff for money, but it works. You pay for it if you want to. If you don't want to pay, download the exact same thing from Centos, also run by Redhat. I don't begrudge Redhat their business model at all. Compared to Microsoft, there is no such thing as being sued by Redhat for a license violation, that is, unless you go full evil on GPL license violations, that's another thing.
I'm not saying Linux is expensive. I am saying, some server operators choose to pay a lot of money to Red Hat, when any serious Linux geek knows it's probably a dump idea because free distros are at least as reliable and usually have more up to date kernels. That's their business.
The big boys like Google, Facebook and even Microsoft don't buy per-machine support from Red Hat, and for the most do not run RPM-based distros. They do however hire Red Hat for consulting from time to time.
Speaking of lame, it's kind of lame to not read the post you are replying and notice that you're actually arguing on the same side.
The reality though is most apps are web based and windows still has more than 90% of the desktop marketshare and that is not changing anytime soon with no real competition out there.
Microsoft is indeed hanging onto its illegally gotten share of the PC market but the PC market is shrinking fast, didn't get the memo?
It all comes down to Microsoft Office. If you have it then people will want to use your machine.
The 90's called and wants you back. Most people don't give a crap what they write their text on, most people don't even write documents like the old days. It's all instant messages and video chat now. You retired or something?
Let's be real: 99% of Windows revenue comes from companies who don't care about Android, ChromeOS or any other OS in their AD- fueled desktops.
Good thing that segment of employees is shrinking so they can lay off some of those fat ass point and click Windows sysadmins.
And when K12 and Android users get a job, they will also use.. a Windows desktop.
See, that's the point, a lot of them won't because email isn't how you do things now, and Microsoft doesn't do a whole lot more of value. They don't even do a great job on email. So many businesses running on Gmail now. You don't need to accept my prediction, it's already a thing, and it's getting bigger fast. Why do you think PC sales are tanking?
Google is moving radidly into the full PC desktop space with ChromeOS aka Linux (check out Crostini [chromeunboxed.com]) and they already have a lock on the cloud productivity space.
Are you high? ChomeOS is a blip in a rounding error of the market share.
Right, MS bailed on phones, therefore losing the war. Google is moving radidly into the full PC desktop space with ChromeOS aka Linux (check out Crostini) and they already have a lock on the cloud productivity space. You will also see ChromeOS increasingly present with a standard windowing interface. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that many major software vendors are already eyeing ChromeOS ports. That's Microsoft's last line of defence.
Even without defeating Microsoft on its home turf, the world is just changing. Most users never did need to run a spreadsheet, now many of them don't even need to run a word processor. They do things by messaging now, not by documents. The world is moving on and Microsoft just can't.
It's not about yield. These are all 14nm parts, a very mature node. This is about segmenting the market to extract more dollars from high end users to fund its pushback campaign against AMD at the low end. Bad luck for Intel that AMD is already out with high end 2700 for low end price.
The 10nm node is a yield disaster for Intel, no argument about that.
Unfortunately the OS only matters in terms of what software it can run.
And Windows can't run Android apps, so it is doomed.
But not too soon I hope, because I quite like the cheap PC hardware scene for Linux installs. Who woulda thunkit, Windows hardware turns out to be more open for desktop Linux than Google machines.
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Apple in this exact example has shown they want to control their own ecosystem. It's the exact same reason they developed WebKit and switched to LLVM.
Apple failed at controlling Webkit because Google got fed up with Apple's governance and forked it (Blink) and rapidly made Webkit irrelevant, now used by Safari and nobody else. Apple will eventually give up backporting Blink improvements and repurpose their engineers officially as Blink contributors. Apple has to play nice with LLVM or that history will play out again the same way.
Unlike HTML and Compiler tech, Apple has no credible business case for a bespoke 3D library. In fact there is a strong case to the contrary, as proved by the Autodesk pullout.
Apple is not for professionals anyway.
Soon it won't be for amateurs either.
millions of Mac and iOS users wah wah wah
Reality: those millions of Mac and IOS users don't know or care what Metal or Vulkan are. Single button minds.
The most logical reason is that Apple doesn't want to put the development of a crucial part of their OS in someone else's hands.
It's not a crucial part of Apple's OS, it's just a library. The most logical reason is that Tim Cook is a crack addict.
Time Cook should start reading Slashdot, right? So coulda avoided this embarrassing mistake. Looking forward to the upcoming walkback, how can Apple PR hacks possibly spin that as anything other than ignominious capitulation?
A marginal design on a mature process can still have poor yield.
There are no credible reports of that, instead Intel draws attention to how successful they have been with incremental improvements at 14nm. But there are pervasive reports, including from Intel, of problems at 10nm. You're just throwing shit at the wall to see if it sticks.
A single quarter blip does not a trend make. The home PC market continued its trip south and the biz segment will be following along shortly. These days, biz is about texting on your Android phone. How many laptop bags do you see in the wild? Be honest.
You'll be doing it with Microsoft Office on Android.
Only a complete idiot would pay for that garbage instead of using Libreoffice for free. But face the facts: how many dissertations did you write last week, or in your entire life?
"Unknown" and "other" both tend to be really big in these web stats. Identifying as googlebot to counter cloaking newsites is a thing, that would be mostly firefox meaning mostly Linux.
Can you tell me how I can get my company to accept and follow policies that were only discussed via instant messages and never actually typed up into a formal document?
That mostly happens on the web now, not in a word processor. And what does "formal document" mean? Offset printed on legal size sheets, impressed with the corporate seal? Get with it.
And it's usually a mistake to accept the claims of a random shill without verifying. What does "if you want to do it yourself" mean? The $299 is for "developer workstation" including "incident reports" (means access to Redhat's bugzilla?) not a "workstation license". In fact, Redhat doesn't sell a "license", they sell a "workstation" for $49. Presumably you pay for Redhat putting it onto a disk because "license" is a loaded term, sounding too much like additional restrictions.
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Redhat is in the bottled water business... what they sell is free, you pay for getting it conveniently in a bottle with somebody at least minimally attesting as to its quality. Funny business that, selling free stuff for money, but it works. You pay for it if you want to. If you don't want to pay, download the exact same thing from Centos, also run by Redhat. I don't begrudge Redhat their business model at all. Compared to Microsoft, there is no such thing as being sued by Redhat for a license violation, that is, unless you go full evil on GPL license violations, that's another thing.
Heh, then my comment was self referential.
I'm not saying Linux is expensive. I am saying, some server operators choose to pay a lot of money to Red Hat, when any serious Linux geek knows it's probably a dump idea because free distros are at least as reliable and usually have more up to date kernels. That's their business.
The big boys like Google, Facebook and even Microsoft don't buy per-machine support from Red Hat, and for the most do not run RPM-based distros. They do however hire Red Hat for consulting from time to time.
Speaking of lame, it's kind of lame to not read the post you are replying and notice that you're actually arguing on the same side.
So you are comparing cell phones to computers? I wonder which one people buy more...
Seriously? Cell phones, or rather smart phones. Revenue for smartphones and tablets passed revenue for PCs/Laptops years ago.
The reality though is most apps are web based and windows still has more than 90% of the desktop marketshare and that is not changing anytime soon with no real competition out there.
Microsoft is indeed hanging onto its illegally gotten share of the PC market but the PC market is shrinking fast, didn't get the memo?
It all comes down to Microsoft Office. If you have it then people will want to use your machine.
The 90's called and wants you back. Most people don't give a crap what they write their text on, most people don't even write documents like the old days. It's all instant messages and video chat now. You retired or something?
Let's be real: 99% of Windows revenue comes from companies who don't care about Android, ChromeOS or any other OS in their AD- fueled desktops.
Good thing that segment of employees is shrinking so they can lay off some of those fat ass point and click Windows sysadmins.
And when K12 and Android users get a job, they will also use.. a Windows desktop.
See, that's the point, a lot of them won't because email isn't how you do things now, and Microsoft doesn't do a whole lot more of value. They don't even do a great job on email. So many businesses running on Gmail now. You don't need to accept my prediction, it's already a thing, and it's getting bigger fast. Why do you think PC sales are tanking?
Kids playing with toys doesn't affect the OS that is used to keep the economy going.
Haha, that's really funny. Surely you have not forgotten that the PC was originally a toy home computer to compete with Apple II.
Even if you are a knuckledragger with mod points you did not change the facts because the internet remembers
Kids playing with toys doesn't affect the OS that is used to keep the economy going.
Haha, that's really funny. Surely you have not forgotten that the PC was originally a toy home computer to compete with Apple II.
Google is moving radidly into the full PC desktop space with ChromeOS aka Linux (check out Crostini [chromeunboxed.com]) and they already have a lock on the cloud productivity space.
Are you high? ChomeOS is a blip in a rounding error of the market share.
Are you drunk? Chromebook shipments surge by 38 percent, cutting into Windows 10 PCs. Chromebooks are perennial Amazon bestsellers. Chromebooks hold a majority of the US K-12 market. Chromebooks can do everything Android can. Time to sober up. Or don't, nobody cares about your Slashdot upchuck.
Did I mention, Chromebooks are pretty damn secure.
Right, MS bailed on phones, therefore losing the war. Google is moving radidly into the full PC desktop space with ChromeOS aka Linux (check out Crostini) and they already have a lock on the cloud productivity space. You will also see ChromeOS increasingly present with a standard windowing interface. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that many major software vendors are already eyeing ChromeOS ports. That's Microsoft's last line of defence.
Even without defeating Microsoft on its home turf, the world is just changing. Most users never did need to run a spreadsheet, now many of them don't even need to run a word processor. They do things by messaging now, not by documents. The world is moving on and Microsoft just can't.
Kde is too slow for network files.
Whaaaat?
It's not about yield. These are all 14nm parts, a very mature node. This is about segmenting the market to extract more dollars from high end users to fund its pushback campaign against AMD at the low end. Bad luck for Intel that AMD is already out with high end 2700 for low end price.
The 10nm node is a yield disaster for Intel, no argument about that.
Unfortunately the OS only matters in terms of what software it can run.
And Windows can't run Android apps, so it is doomed.
But not too soon I hope, because I quite like the cheap PC hardware scene for Linux installs. Who woulda thunkit, Windows hardware turns out to be more open for desktop Linux than Google machines.
This is the graph that should worry Microsoft.