So both malice and self interest, plus mix in liberal doses of narcissism and incompetence. Situation normal. Any info on whether the ass is still there?
Apple used to have an employee evaluation process in place where the employee evaluates their manager. All the manager's direct reports evaluations of that manager were used as part of the manager's own evaluation.
The organization just round files those manager evaluations, their sole purpose is to enhance the illusion that the manager is accountable for their treatment of you. That way, you are less likely to advocate for union formation or take other inconvenient measures.
It is nothing like a union. It is just a half hearted attempt to counter some bad things that happen to profitability when middle managers take advantage of the absence of meaningful anti-abuse labour laws.
That review is frightening. The manager frames it as if (s)he is doing something good for you and the company, whereas everybody knows that this is just a way to exit an employee without cause. What causes this behavior, is it just pure malice, or is the manager's job in jeopardy if they don't exit X number of employees this way each year? A bit of both?
Amazon has a widespread reputation as a hellhole for competent engineers, perhaps the worst in big tech. Interesting that they seem to be making at least a small attempt to do something about it. Google, Apple Facebook and Microsoft have so far not made the slightest attempt. This would indicate that Amazon's brain drain is starting to hurt, and somebody upstairs made the connection between this and upcoming quarterlies.
Wouldn't it be better to fire the boss? After all, if they are arguing to fire a 'good' employee, their judgement is faulty and they need to leave.
You would think so, wouldn't you? But bosses don't fire bosses, it hits too close to home. See, nobody cares about firing a good employee as long as they get to keep taking home their own paycheck. Quite the contrary: good employees are seen as threats.
Managerial abuse is rampant in big tech, as every front line engineer knows and has personally witnessed. Somehow, this does not completely bring the industry to its knees, but it certainly slows it down, hence America losing leadership in tech.
Microsoft came up with the "curve" system. Google and others who always envied Microsoft for its monopoly control and fuck you attitude were quick to copy it. Some idealistic employees never saw that, even today. But you would need to be pretty fucking dense to miss it.
Current popular realistic alternatives to Java for back end server applications:
- Go
- Python
- Node.js
- Rust Notably also used with success:
- Ruby
- Erlang
- Eiffel
- C++
I think, the first four are just clearly better new project choices than Java for reasons ranging from quick prototyping to developer availability to code quality (Rust). Nobody in their right mind would choose Java for user-facing software. Basically, there is no good reason to use Java for anything, unless forced to. (Looks sideways at idiot Google smart people.)
Somebody confused their mod points with an argument?
For smaller shops, the price of "real programmers" exceeds the price of 30% more VPSes.
For smaller shops, the stupidity of going with Java and thus losing competitive advantage is far more severe. Go, Python, Node.js, this is reality for small shops. Pretenders go the way of the dodo.
We already followed IPv6 through to conclusion: dual stacks to the end of time. That is, in a word, failure. You conflate dual stack with extended protocol. These two things are not the same. If you think that they are, and you presume to waste internet bits with your ignorant spam about it, it just shows that you are too stupid to be entrusted with anything of importance. I hope that you are just an armchair asshole, and not an actual actor in this sad tale of software misengineering.
Most of the large data warehousing and analytics software is written in Java. Same with message queues.
You're showing your paunch. Analytics in Java means 30% average worse performance than c++, hence 30% more data center costs. Data warehousing in Java, give me a break, write in a proper language and use real programmers, not the B team. Message queues in Java instead of Go? Already not a thing.
Correct, if you don't pay for commercial support then you don't get commercial support. Your company will have to learn to live off the open source community.
Current popular realistic alternatives to Java for back end server applications:
- Go
- Python
- Node.js
- Rust Notably also used with success:
- Ruby
- Erlang
- Eiffel
- C++
I think, the first four are just clearly better new project choices than Java for reasons ranging from quick prototyping to developer availability to code quality (Rust). Nobody in their right mind would choose Java for user-facing software. Basically, there is no good reason to use Java for anything, unless forced to. (Looks sideways at idiot Google smart people.)
Very, very few people pay attention to Linux because it's a raindrop in an ocean.
Oh yeah, right. With 85% of smartphones, 70% of net servers, 95% of data centers, 100% of top 500 and 60% of embedded devices, nobody sane ignores Linux. Next goal: 30% of PC desktops.
Fuck you. I have looked at it in detail, unlike you, and I am the not only one. When you have done at least some basic homework, get back to me. Your empty rhetoric in place of technical knowledge is just too irritating.
Idea: fire Trump into orbit so that his soft body parts can aborb some of that space junk.
Mod up if you think Trump should be shot into orbit to absorb space junk, especially after today. Oh wait, sorry, that's to good for him, launch Stephen Miller instead. Got to think of something special for King Trump, more than just removing him from office in handcuffs.
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Presumably managers aren't entirely terrible, the coworkers agreeing with him 70% of the time doesn't sound very outlandish to me.
What makes you think that such agreement is only to avoid retaliation?
I'm now working at Microsoft (Azure). 3 years and going, hopefully I'll survive.
Wow, Microsoft a better place to work than Amazon, who woulda thunkit.
Any corporation would do well to fire you, I guess you also can't maintain relationships.
Russian belly crawler with mod points detected.
So both malice and self interest, plus mix in liberal doses of narcissism and incompetence. Situation normal. Any info on whether the ass is still there?
Apple used to have an employee evaluation process in place where the employee evaluates their manager. All the manager's direct reports evaluations of that manager were used as part of the manager's own evaluation.
The organization just round files those manager evaluations, their sole purpose is to enhance the illusion that the manager is accountable for their treatment of you. That way, you are less likely to advocate for union formation or take other inconvenient measures.
Any corporation would do well to fire you, I guess you also can't maintain relationships.
Sounds like a union.
It is nothing like a union. It is just a half hearted attempt to counter some bad things that happen to profitability when middle managers take advantage of the absence of meaningful anti-abuse labour laws.
That review is frightening. The manager frames it as if (s)he is doing something good for you and the company, whereas everybody knows that this is just a way to exit an employee without cause. What causes this behavior, is it just pure malice, or is the manager's job in jeopardy if they don't exit X number of employees this way each year? A bit of both?
Amazon has a widespread reputation as a hellhole for competent engineers, perhaps the worst in big tech. Interesting that they seem to be making at least a small attempt to do something about it. Google, Apple Facebook and Microsoft have so far not made the slightest attempt. This would indicate that Amazon's brain drain is starting to hurt, and somebody upstairs made the connection between this and upcoming quarterlies.
There are OBVIOUS conflicts of interest in allowing a "jury" of Amazon workers to judge the case.
It's still better than putting faith in a potentially abusive manager.
Wouldn't it be better to fire the boss? After all, if they are arguing to fire a 'good' employee, their judgement is faulty and they need to leave.
You would think so, wouldn't you? But bosses don't fire bosses, it hits too close to home. See, nobody cares about firing a good employee as long as they get to keep taking home their own paycheck. Quite the contrary: good employees are seen as threats.
Managerial abuse is rampant in big tech, as every front line engineer knows and has personally witnessed. Somehow, this does not completely bring the industry to its knees, but it certainly slows it down, hence America losing leadership in tech.
Microsoft came up with the "curve" system. Google and others who always envied Microsoft for its monopoly control and fuck you attitude were quick to copy it. Some idealistic employees never saw that, even today. But you would need to be pretty fucking dense to miss it.
Current popular realistic alternatives to Java for back end server applications:
- Go
- Python
- Node.js
- Rust
Notably also used with success:
- Ruby
- Erlang
- Eiffel
- C++
I think, the first four are just clearly better new project choices than Java for reasons ranging from quick prototyping to developer availability to code quality (Rust). Nobody in their right mind would choose Java for user-facing software. Basically, there is no good reason to use Java for anything, unless forced to. (Looks sideways at idiot Google smart people.)
Somebody confused their mod points with an argument?
For smaller shops, the price of "real programmers" exceeds the price of 30% more VPSes.
For smaller shops, the stupidity of going with Java and thus losing competitive advantage is far more severe. Go, Python, Node.js, this is reality for small shops. Pretenders go the way of the dodo.
We already followed IPv6 through to conclusion: dual stacks to the end of time. That is, in a word, failure. You conflate dual stack with extended protocol. These two things are not the same. If you think that they are, and you presume to waste internet bits with your ignorant spam about it, it just shows that you are too stupid to be entrusted with anything of importance. I hope that you are just an armchair asshole, and not an actual actor in this sad tale of software misengineering.
Most of the large data warehousing and analytics software is written in Java. Same with message queues.
You're showing your paunch. Analytics in Java means 30% average worse performance than c++, hence 30% more data center costs. Data warehousing in Java, give me a break, write in a proper language and use real programmers, not the B team. Message queues in Java instead of Go? Already not a thing.
I know it's popular around here to imagine that Java has some sort of meaningful competition
You should check out the trajectory of Go if you doubt. I would seriously question the competence of anybody starting a new project in Java today.
Corporate security.
Any hint which company? (In order to avoid.)
Except my company has a corporate policy against using open source software.
Sucks to be you.
Correct, if you don't pay for commercial support then you don't get commercial support. Your company will have to learn to live off the open source community.
Ha ha, just like 95% of devs then.
Current popular realistic alternatives to Java for back end server applications:
- Go
- Python
- Node.js
- Rust
Notably also used with success:
- Ruby
- Erlang
- Eiffel
- C++
I think, the first four are just clearly better new project choices than Java for reasons ranging from quick prototyping to developer availability to code quality (Rust). Nobody in their right mind would choose Java for user-facing software. Basically, there is no good reason to use Java for anything, unless forced to. (Looks sideways at idiot Google smart people.)
Very, very few people pay attention to Linux because it's a raindrop in an ocean.
Oh yeah, right. With 85% of smartphones, 70% of net servers, 95% of data centers, 100% of top 500 and 60% of embedded devices, nobody sane ignores Linux. Next goal: 30% of PC desktops.
Ah, so you did have the start of an idea
Fuck you. I have looked at it in detail, unlike you, and I am the not only one. When you have done at least some basic homework, get back to me. Your empty rhetoric in place of technical knowledge is just too irritating.
you are either mistaken or lying
Lying. Lots of russians hanging out here, for historical reasons.
Idea: fire Trump into orbit so that his soft body parts can aborb some of that space junk.
Mod up if you think Trump should be shot into orbit to absorb space junk, especially after today. Oh wait, sorry, that's to good for him, launch Stephen Miller instead. Got to think of something special for King Trump, more than just removing him from office in handcuffs.