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GitHub, Medium Remove Public ICE Employee Data Repository (obsceneworks.com)
owenferguson shares a report from Obscene Works: Medium.com and GitHub have today quashed the release of a set of data comprising of all the ICE employees who openly list themselves on LinkedIn.com. All the data released was gathered from publicly listed LinkedIn profiles. The data was assembled by Sam Lavigne of http://lav.io/ and was published as a repository on GitHub, and announced via an article on Medium.com.
Disgusting political pandering. Slashdot, you are better than this.
"If you want to improve, be content to be thought foolish and stupid." - Epictetus
Okay, I'll bite. The "article" doesn't even answer the question. What the heck is an ICE employee? A gas-powered employee?
Answer via Google: U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
And now you validated that ass-hat by writing about him.
Lav.io is an appropriate URL because it needs to get flushed.
I stopped coming to /. years ago and this "article" is a stark reminder why.
and I'll grant the story, touching on Github as it does, has some potential validity. But what the hell is up with that headline? "Willfully Destroyed"? They didn't destroy anything. They took it off their servers. Probably because there's a lot of emotions running high and they're rightfully worried some nutjob is going to go off half cocked and hurt somebody.
I'm grateful to Github for nipping this in the bud. Crap like this is exactly the sort of response that our countries current extreme immigration policies are meant to solicit. We're being trolled; probably as a point of distraction from economic issues that otherwise would dominate the mid-term elections (the economy's doing crap with poor wage growth despite full employment). Now is the time to calm the heck down and apply appropriate and legal pressure. Not dox a bunch of poorly paid gov't employees who most likely took the job out of desperation (and yes, I know folks who work in some of the less upstanding law enforcement jobs and believe me, it's not by choice).
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Why would anyone want this information? It is not like these folks are policy makers. Just enforcers. You don't penalize the cop because you got caught going 55 in a 25 zone.
What's the point of deleting the public data if you first make a public archive of it?
I have to file this under my 'who gives a shit' category. SMH.
When they start being audited by the IRS.
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
Lets create a database of all people on facebook who made a post supportive of the pro-violence wing of antifa. Would there be a different reaction to its deletion?
This seems even l lower then MSNBC, but perhaps it exactly that level.
What next links to kitty porn?
From a purely "networked world of today" (tm) standpoint this is very interesting and sign of the times. That it was posted on Medium is kind of funny in a pathetic sort of way.
Anyone know what Beau's address is?
Microsoft doesn't even actually own GitHub yet you halfwit.
What a creep.
I find it helpful to remember that as much as internet companies use data to spy on and exploit their users, we can at times reverse the story, and leverage those very same online platforms as a means to investigate or even undermine entrenched power structures.
This is some serious confusion, or just a severe "us against the world" mindset. Yes, internet companies sometimes spy on their customers. No, the people in his stalker notebook do not spy on ISP customers. No, the spying ISPs engage in is not the same as encouraging stalking.
I've seen a certain (few) progressives justify bad behavior as "sticking it to the man", "speaking truth to power", or "punching up". Invariably, this was an excuse to be rude or make accusations about a person who wasn't in a position to defend themselves. This data dump goes beyond rudeness.
A cat can't teach a dog to bark.
for doing a job. I don't think there's many that would argue that we don't want and need some level of border security (there's a few extreme libertarians who do). If we're going to have that then _somebody_ is going to enforce that security.
We can argue that they should quit their jobs if they're asked to do something immoral, but a lot of them _aren't_ doing anything immoral. I'm going to Godwin this thread right now, not every German helped kill jews. There's boarder patrol agents who help people they find in the desert.
I understand wanting to do something to help Mexican and South American immigrants. But if that's our goal then there's a _lot_ more to do than immigration. We can start by legalizing drugs. The drug war fuels their violence. We can also stop meddling in their politics. "Banana Republic" has a sinister meaning and our CIA has helped run death squads in South America. Start voting for the kinds of politicians who oppose torture and unnecessary military build up. Drop food instead of Bombs, it's cheaper and more humane.
There's a lot we can do to stem the tide of illegal immigrants. But that said, we don't necessarily _want_ to do that. We're addicted to their cheap, cheap labor. Always have been.
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As I understand US law, if two citizens leave the country and have a kid, then that kid is also a legal US citizen, and may return to the country with them. Is Mexican law regarding this different? Are they not allowing the parents to bring their kid back to their country with them?
You're being ridiculous. Please cut it out.
Why Github? I can sort of accept the logic (albeit I don’t agree with it) of posting this kind of thing to Wikileaks, but github? Seriously? Was it in the form of a program? ...?
10 PRINT “HERE IS A LIST OF ICE EMPLOYEES”
20 PRINT “1. JOHN Q AARDVARK, ICE EMPLOYEE #5621, 2100 LAUREL AVE TRENTON NJ”
Seriously, I hope you get sued.
Tell that to someone in south american or mexico who has their child kidnapped in revenge.
It's tragic to lose a child. Once it happens, everyone will be screaming, "Why didn't anyone warn us!?!?"
The U.S. government is kidnapping 70 toddlers and babies a day now. Each one of those has at least a half dozen relatives who will want payback. Republicans and Mr. Trump are making more new enemeis for the U.S. all over the world but especially in mexico and south america.
Use your brain dumbass.
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Slashdot, you are better than this.
No, we're not. This site is about weird racist memes, goatse and penis bird. There may nothing beneath us.
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GitHub's decline started long before the Microsoft acquisition. When they forced out the founder and declared meritocracy, and by extension merit, unwelcome.
Venture capital turns everything it touches into evil shit. Not just evil, not just shitty - evil & shitty.
I would imagine the ultimate impetus is that Microsoft doesn't want to go to the bother of providing the FBI the IPs of all those who accessed the data for the next year.
The people that run US concentration camps and the reason why the US left the UN Human Rights Council. Trump is continuing to look more authoritarian... quick, we need a dumb tweet to try to forget immigrant children, and the news cycle continues...
The parents could always, you know, not violate US immigration law. I know, crazy idea!
While I agree with the info being released, Github is a code repository. A list of ICE employees is not code and has absolutely no purpose on there. Go upload that kind of stuff to wikileaks or something. If we are going to let this kind of stuff on a code repository, perhaps we should just start using it for piracy as well. Ill upload all my DVD images as password protected zips. If you're in the know you'll know which other repository has all the zip passwords.
Microsoft faces outrage for blog post touting ICE contract . Coincidence?
This is one of the many reasons I don't do social media. Things are too big .. not just fun and games anymore... too many people are leveraging information about you in ways you can't anticipate and probably wouldn't approve of or appreciate.
One day you'll be trying to reenter the country after a trip overseas and some government goon will demand your social media account or you'll apply for a Job and prospective employer will go trolling the net for everything about you in order to pass judgment or basically shit like this where you work somewhere and that fact becomes a magnet for mobs and crazies. Ditto on personal level.
This crap is too big and too pervasively leveraged that not only is it just not fun anymore it's increasingly detrimental.
Having said that the road to hell is paved with people who are just doing their job or just following orders. Perhaps some enterprising employers somewhere will use this list to poach ICE employees away as a means of exerting political pressure and getting cheap publicity for their trouble.
Speaking for myself I absolutely despise LinkedIn and to some extent the people who use LinkedIn. If you use LinkedIn keep it to yourself because I will judge you harshly. You may wake up one day to find your inbox crammed with "job offers". I'm not a nice person.
As in.. a relative of an ICE agent, who happens to be on vacation down there sees their child kidnapped? Or an average person living their having their child kidnapped... if the prior... how likely is that? if the latter... how does that apply?
Just one problem... 'kidnapping', is by definition an unlawful act. You can rhetorically claim that a death penalty is 'murder', however again, the law and the dictionary tend to disagree. Like it or not... based on current law and policy, you can't put these kids in the same jails as their parents, and there is not the same incentive to release them into the interior as the previous administration was (to quote the previous guy, "elections have consequences") or keep them all together in a communal space.
Maybe... maybe not. I seem to recall it was the mother of Elian Gonzalez hopped on a raft in Cuba to risk both their lives to come to the US... a trip which cost her her own life, a trip his father opposed.
What % of these family members would view such a trip as risky and be grateful their helpless relative was protected from future harm?
In terms of payback... you also would seem to have the issue of them being able to do something.
Strange how it's only an issue now, while the caging of kids under Obama wasn't an issue... until those photos were claimed to have ocured under Trump.
Perhaps... you should explain your thought process a little better before resorting to such things.
The U.S. government is kidnapping 70 toddlers and babies a day now.
Wow, talk about reinterpretation of facts.
Dude, their parents smuggled them into a foreign country, and when they got caught and detained, you're equating that to kidnapping. This is entirely the fault of their dumbass parents that took this enormous risk with their own children.
And you act like they are being sent to a gas chamber or something.
Whatever. You're a fucking retard and there is nothing anyone can do to help you.
Communists and Marxists are using the open internet to gather information on the US federal government. :) .gov and .mil data.
;)
Stop putting information out online.
Got a resume? Print it and hand it in to the approved gov person for that promotion, side ways promotion. Nothing digital, online.
Be aware of strange new cctv, random people with a camera near any federal building.
Talking about 1st A, been a tourist. Doing a 1s A protests outside your building? That "first amendment audit" on gov workers, mil, contractors for hours?
Get quality facial recognition on anyone near any federal building. Always.
Dont use any electronic communications devices near a federal building. Remove the battery from any gov/private cell phone. Carry an extra cell phone thats powered, never used and is totally empty. Photograph any person of interest with that. Wait for the FOIA request on that device
Communists are running complex data gathering on all of the US gov. Electronic, faces, cars, internet.
Searching the internet for every fragment of
Understand how the GCHQ, the SAS, UK mil, Royal Ulster Constabulary Special Branch operated in Ireland. North and south and in the USA.
They did not have information found out by lawyers, media, activists, Communists, politicians.
How? By been secret. Stop publishing information. Use front companies and locations to run investigations from. Dont use a cell phone. Dont use the internet. When some 1st A audit finds a gov/mil front company, building used as a field office, don't send gov/mil staff out with names on badges to confirm what agency works in the building.
1st A can run their own counter surveillance with both long range audio, networking and with a network of other cameras. Say nothing, do nothing.
Set up bait offices and bait staff. See what 1st A audit shows up first with a very limited internal release of information
Use private security and local city police to do field investigations. Never confirm who is at any location to some random stranger outside with a camera.
Dont allow any building manager to list who works in the building to any strangers with a camera outside.
When using a gov or private camera to photograph a protester, 1st A person, use a cell phone, camera just for that task. No other messages, text, data, images on the device used for that interaction.
Never use a gov cell phone, your own cell phone. It will be part of a FOIA request. Make sure it has nothing extra on it.
FOIA requests will be used on that device and protester can gather all kinds of data on that device by requesting it as it was used as part of an offical investigation.
Stop just giving gov data away with every FOIA request. The FOIA image is that of the protestor and the gov device has no other data on it.
After the FOIA request stop using that camera. One camera, one encounter, one FOIA. No extra data on any police device that can be requested.
Use vehicle registration plates as bait. Drive a set of unmanned cars, vans in and out of a gov building. Uniforms and actors to ensure its a quality production outside the sally port. Track who then enters the same vehicle registration into all kinds of databases. Who goes building a database. Is someone in the gov helping look up gov workers and contractors? Find them. Is someone in the private sector helping protesters on their own databases? Find them.
Find who is doing the lookups and who is requesting the data searches on gov workers, mil, police. From gov records, on private databases.
Make sure you know who you are working with and who is getting hired. Hire on merit. Make sure the person getting hired is fit for law enforcement work, can pass gov/mil security tests.
Track all communications by disgruntled workers. They will pass information on to protesters, 1st A auditors, media, lawyers, faith groups, cults while working
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
1) No he's not.
2) So the fuck what?
3) Oh OK so only 10*habeus corpus. Great. I'd like to see how long you'd last you heartless ghoul.
4) So you're saying security is better than freedom? Got it. You're happy with a cage as long as you get 3 meals a day.
5) We don't put the children in fucking jail too. North Korea does that.
6) This is a lie. The burden of proof is on you.
7) Irrelevant.
Only crack the nuts that crack. You don't put the ones that don't crack in the sack.
Most of those are actually false (1,4,6) or at best distorted. This is not surprising as Breitbart is an awful source of any news and Steve Bannon basically helped dictate this immigration policy.
.61% of kids.
1. He's enforcing the most draconian option. They claim the kids are unaccompanied but by prosecuting the adults criminally instead of civilly -- they obviously have that right -- they can isolate both the parents and the kids. This is even happening to people trying to claim asylum at ports of entry.
2. Many do. The vast majority arrive with an adult. The trafickers posing as a family account for
3. Many, if not all, of these children have been apart from their parents for more than 20 days. Even a cursory google shows this is heinously out of context.
4. This is just unmitigated bullshit. It's child abuse (per pediatricians AND psychiatrists) and nothing DHS says has been independently verified. Either way being separated from family and put in a detention center is certainly not GOOD treatment
5. People are generally not jailed for misdemeanors. Children certainly aren't seized and they get preference in their bail hearing if they are the sole caregiver.
6. This is just unmitigated bullshit. He kept families together.
7. Ignoring the fact that DHS has started turning people away from ports of entry, yes they are actively being turned away and sometimes seized. This is, once again, easily findable via basic google. Some actual sources WITH SOURCES!
https://www.texasmonthly.com/p...
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/0...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/0...
Even if you don't like NYT or NPR, there are other outlets that report it as well, even websites like Snopes and politifact. Basically that was a shit post for covering an awful practice and an even bigger shit post because it was so laughably bad and fake,.
I found a whole bunch of those violent anti-fascist assholes. They're under white marble crosses all over Europe.
No you did not. Because the allied soldier under white crosses did not believe in beating up people over words. When the Nazis marched in Illinois in the 1970s the WW2 vets opposed them with words not violence.
It is only the comic book caricature of WW2 soldiers that antifa likens themselves to as they indulge in their own little soldierly fantasies. The immature entitled kid in black north face clothing and balaclava is far far different than the real soldiers who destroyed real fascists. Similar story for the other side of the same idiotic delusions, the neonazi wearing an armband and speaking insulting words is nothing like the real fascists. Both the violent wing of antifa and the neonazis are all posers, little more than asshole cosplayers both.
Now the peaceful wing of antifa, that is an entirely different story. That is where one might find actual WW2 vets.
Speaking as someone who had the privilege to grow up around family who were actual WW2 combat vets, and who had teachers who were actual WW2 combat vets.
Even a cursory google shows this is heinously out of context.
And the third result in a cursory google search for Hitler (in private browsing mode) is an article titled "Yes, You Should Be Comparing Trump to Hitler". Citing a google search for political facts is no longer sufficient.
Even if you don't like NYT or NPR, there are other outlets that report it as well, even websites like Snopes and politifact.
"Even if you don't like Breitbart, there are other outlets that report it as well, even websites like Infowars and Stormfront."
No.. you are either mistaken or lying.
1) Trump is only enforcing the law : Nope, it's a new policy. And it's a decision by Miller, Sessions, and Trump to do so. Presidents Bush and Obama saw no need to enforce the law this way.
2) Many children arrive unaccompanied
We are talking about babies and toddlers being taken from their parents-- we have audio of them crying for their parents.
3) Children can only be separated for 20 days
No. per former ICE head on the news tonight at 9pm, there is no procedure in place to return the children. The Parents will be "fast tracked" back to their home countries and the toddlers and babies will be returned months to *years* later. And there is no documentation being taken to tie the parents to the children. And there are already documented cases where the child has been missing longer than 20 days.
4) Their conditions are actually pretty good, better than most poor American children get, and better than where they came from.
Living in tents in near 100 degree temperatures is not "pretty" good. That's the conditions which male toddlers and children are being kept under. Babies and females we barely know about-- reporters are not being allowed in the facllities. The government (which lies constantly) is the only source saying the conditions are good.
5) We separate citizen children from their parents, when we put parents in jail
Not for minor crimes.
6) Obama did it
Obama's not president and at the least did not do it on this scale (if it did it at all- you are going to provide a cite for that because all I find when I google that is right wing sites.)
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1) That this is enforcing the law is debatable but it is definitely new policy. Bush, Obama and Trump for the first 15 months didn't do this. The policy changed on April 6th and that's what has manufactured this problem. Because it is a manufactured problem and it could be solved with a single phone call.
2) Some children do show up unaccompanied. But the majority do not and this policy is about causing them to be unaccompanied. That's why the number of kids has gone up so quickly.
3) Previously we didn't separate them at all. And in many cases they are permanently. Because in many cases the parents are released but then the kids aren't. But the parents risk arrest if they show up to get them. Or they are "lost" when they are released to someone else.
4) Leaving aside the inhumanity of saying that they get better than most poor American children get, they are being held in dog kennels and sleeping on the floor. They aren't allowed to touch and shelter staff aren't allowed to touch or console them. This type of trauma permanently scars kids.
5) When we "separate citizen children from their parents" we do so by putting the parents in jail. Here we are putting the kids in jail. And in many cases the parents get processed and released very quickly because at worst they are charged with a misdemeanor. But most cases, the people in question aren't breaking the law at all. They are legally presenting themselves at the border and requesting asylum. That's 100% legal.
6) Obama did not do it. They had similar facilities for kids that were legitimately unaccompanied and they sometimes saved kids from trafficing and the like but they did not do this zero tolerance, charge everyone and make their lives miserable to deter them bullshit. And even if Obama had done it, what difference does that make. It's still wrong.
7) Asylum seekers is what this all about. Most of the people in question are from Central America and are here to seek asylum.
No one with half a brain would suggest Breitbart is a valid source of anything but racism and hate.
Surely you can try harder than this, bot
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/06/19/the-facts-about-trumps-policy-of-separating-families-at-the-border/
Since you are so confident... by all means-- please take your kids overseas on trips.
I'm sure no one will be upset and your children will be completely safe.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
Just when I thought you might be worth taking seriously, you pull the "Russian Bot" card. Thanks for the entertainment.
And multiple Republican governors have withdrawn their national guards.
Republicans control the presidency, house, and senate. They could fix this tomorrow.
Meanwhile children are being put in cages and crying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
Breitbart had a good summary of the situation(*).
In short, it's manufactured outrage intended to gin up exactly this sort of reaction in people.
After "Breitbart" I'll just assume everything you have to say establishes the fact you're a fuckwit.
1) Trump is only enforcing the law
One can do a lot of damage to society by "only" enforcing the law so I will chalk this up as unfalsifiable gibberish due to the lack of specific substantive argument supporting course of action taken by administration.
2) Many children arrive unaccompanied
What the heck does this have to do with separating accompanied children other than a crummy attempt at deflection?
3) Children can only be separated for 20 days
The average time is 51 days and there is no upper limit for outliers.
Am I to believe locking up children under threat of violence for even 20 days with strangers against their will is acceptable behavior? If you think so then I think you're a fuckwit.
4) Their conditions are actually pretty good, better than most poor American children get, and better than where they came from.
To say most poor American children are better off separated from their parents and locked up in cages with strangers is just a reflection of how warped and out of touch with reality you truly are.
5) We separate citizen children from their parents, when we put parents in jail
Kids are not separated from their parents when their parents commit Misdemeanors. You're really a fuckwit.
The administration is only doing what it is doing to send a message. Everyone including yourself knows it. Don't pretend there is another reason and don't pretend the normal standard of what is best for the child is being followed.
6) Obama did it
No previous president has done what Trump is doing. Obama explicitly focused on jailing "bad dudes" not EVERYONE without qualification (e.g. zero tolerance). What is happening now is NEW.
>using anything as BIASED as Breitbart.
You should be 1,000x smarter than this but I guess fucking not. Or you've gone senile in old age.
No matter how you feel about immigration in the USA deleting the archive was the right thing to do.
I am ashamed of Slashdot for posting this. Scraping LinkedIn is not newsworthy. It's not an achievement or technically complex. Most people on this site could accomplish this inside a day or two. The only thing this accomplishes is the insinuation that people should take this information and use it to harass government employees, which is not only unethical but potentially criminal.
Some Jew doxed a government agency? Nice.
They scraped content from LinkedIn (or used an API?) to compile a directory, almost certainly in violation of TOS.
How was that OK?
Microsoft owns LinkedIn. Microsoft owns Github. Put two and two together. They are enforcing their TOS, and happen to have the ability to do so in this case without having to convince another site to take down the illegally-obtained material.
To rebut the tyrant's advocate, I'll present the following:
No, family separation and minor detention is not required by law.
In practice, the children can be separated indefinitely (possibly permanently), since there is poor tracking of the parents and minors, with multiple poorly communicating government agencies involved. At least one case has had a mother deported separately from her son. Can you say with any certainty that a parent deported separately to Guatemala will be reunited with a child that was still detained by the US federal government within 20 days?
To pile injury upon injury, Border Patrol is making it difficult for asylum seekers to declare themselves in ports, turning them away from legal entry. (I'm not 100% on the intercept as a source, here is their story and description of the practice). As an unfliching proponent of adherence to the law, an honest appraisal of this behavior by the border control arms of the US government may induce discomfort or cognitive dissonance, if a capability for dissonance remains present.
Breitbart is a proponent of this sort of behavior, and them promoting a line of propaganda to reinforce denial of the true consequences of their goals is unfortunately expected. Denial is a key component of atrocity. Holocaust denial is not an isolated phenomena, denial goes hand and hand with ethnic cleansing and genocidal movements in general. It may seem hyperbolic to discuss this particular issue using such terminology, but if you read through the warning signs and look to the dehumanizing rhetoric being used now, such as Trump saying these migrants are trying to "infest" us, you might understand why many, myself included, are starting to freak out.
For those of us who don't live in the US, ICE stands for (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement). I suggest editors/mods consider spelling out abbreviations in brackets when posting articles.
Many of those false images have already been debunked. It's amazing just how much fake news there is In America.
https://www.rt.com/usa/429956-caged-boy-immigration-debunk/
There are quite a few jobs where you expect threats. Immigration enforcement , people evicting others, debt collector and I pass many others. There are many jobs which may need to be done, but for which people affected by those job may not necessarily like the enforcer. Personally I don't see the usefulness of threatening ICE official, but then again I am legal resident on where I live so I am biased.
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"1) Trump is only enforcing the law"
1) He is free to decide to NOT enforce or put the accent on different part of the law
3) that is a terrible nightmare for low age children and this is why this is rightfully called child abuse
4) you can be in good physical condition and psychologically abused
5) only when they commit certain category of crime. In this case this should be the equivalent of a misdemeanor and kick the illegal out at best.
6) and YET curiously that was NEVER applied that way under Obama.... Curious that , uh ? Could it be that Trump and its advisor found a way to be depictable and a way to shift the blame on somebody else, when they could be NOT doing that, just like under Obama ? Remember how to enforce and priority are by the executive. And yet.... Those sociopath decide to enforce it that way. Maybe there is something that breitbart does not mention and this is why they are called a biased source ? Who would have thunk that ?
Soldiers that went to fight bearing arms did not at some point believe their violent acts had meaning, and expected the diplomacy and propaganda to do all the work while they marched to the meat grinder? You're insulting their reason.
Anther day in GAR
(Greater American Reich)
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It was on Github because it included both data, and code for making some use of the data. That said, pure data with no code is still a valid repository and has uses such as AI training that make it a proper fit in a repository environment, if you are serious about that sort of thing. This is actually a better model for making leaks like wikileaks, where they have a closed source web interface to the data, and pure data dumps (like Ashley Madison) where the end user has to figure out how to mount the data in a parseable manner.
you are either mistaken or lying
Lying. Lots of russians hanging out here, for historical reasons.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
Nah, that's too difficult.
It's just so easy to accidentally cross the border without knowing after walking through the desert for miles.
If you've been paying attention to what's been going on over there since they decided their "In Meritocracy We Trust" parody of the oval office carpet in the CEO's office was offensive and had to be removed you'd know the place has let the lunatics run the asylum for years already. The only surprise here is that they decided to remove this particular doxxing case as it conforms really well to their particular bent so some semblance sanity may actually be returning to the madhouse.
The far left lunatics they've let run the company have removed projects and banned people on purely political grounds, made it very easy to add extremely broad codes of conduct with a focus on "If someone claims they've felt slighted the guilty one must be punished reality and plain sense be damned" types and implemented loads of asinine "diversity" policies like restricting certain positions based on race and putting an end to mentoring new hires because of how their diversity drive has lead to to many cases of minorities and women being mentored by white men.
"Why should I want to make anything up? Life's bad enough as it is without wanting to invent any more of it."
Photos of children in cages were from 2014, under the Obama administration.
The reason for pointing this out is to expose the hypocrisy and falseness of your faux moral panic. You only gave a shit when you lost the election. Before then literally anything horrible could be done to children, because Obama.
You don't actually care about the kids. All of your points are entirely irrelevant, because you are being dishonest with your stated intent and concerns. You want to use kids to attack Trump, and advocate open borders. Nothing else. They could literally die after that purpose was served and you'd be fine with it, just like abortion.
But we all know the MSM is not going to publish any of that information.
There's a narrative being pushed here, and the worst part of it is, everyone's being told to believe in whatever they want to.
That's a path to hell paved on good intentions if I ever saw one.
The best way to keep the children and parents together would be for the parents not to invade the United States illegally.
0 marks - please show your workings.
These migrants do not come here to be apart of the American Dream. They come to destroy the dream that was America. They are not proudly displaying the U.S. flag, They are burning the American flag, and proudly displaying the Mexican flag. They are not spending their nights studying English. They speak Spanish, and make U.S. students learn Spanish too.
The choice is simple. Do you look after your own children, or are you soon generous that you will feed Mexican children while your own children starve.
GitHub et al don't want to get involved in an something which is most likely going to end up in doxxing and other attacks.
Well... that didn't take long.
ruurd
even websites like Snopes and politifact
laughably bad and fake,
Talk about the pot calling the cattle black.
"Even the Devil can quote Scripture to suit his purposes."
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Nearly as much as you'll find in RT on an average day.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Nah, its time to send them money to keep up the good work.
seems like this is still right on the spot. Nothing changes.
They're not all la migra
Take off, every Hoser
You're basically calling for vigilante / mob rule.
That's messed up, dude.
Here's a better plan:
1. Vote the xenophobic Republicans out of office.
2. Let the courts decide if the ICE officers broke the law by following orders.
Crossing the border without documentation is a misdemeanor.
It's akin to taking your kids away if you get a ticket for jay-walking.
It's the zero tolerance POLICY implemented by the administration in April that is requiring criminal detention for all border crossings. It's this criminal detention for what amounts to a misdemeanor, that is triggering the family separations.
I rate this story 1 hot potatoe
This worries me that the list was taken down. I cannot believe it violated the TOS, as the data was legally compiled. There's a judgement call being made to remove a list which is scary, and fascist.
I see a lot of pointing out problems, but no solutions in your post. What would be the icefall solution in your eyes? Have these families live in human trafficking conditions? Force the government to provide these families with housing while gathering information to prove that children belong to the people claiming to be parents?
What do you do with the children whose parents died on the way to the U.S.? What do you do with the children who were sent by themselves to live with relatives indefinitely? Would you have a program to bring the parents to the U.S.? BTW, when the families show up, got only have a couple hours to figure out all of these answers, and you need to be prepared to provide a solution to an unlimited number of people.
And yet at the same time, we are brainwashed that the "free market picks what is the best for everyone".
Avantgarde Hebrew science fiction
“We removed the project because it violates our community guidelines ... we have policies against use of GitHub for doxxing and harassment, and violating a third party’s privacy.”
- A GitHub spokesperson
I will endeavor not to smuggle my child across another nation's border illegally. Thanks for the tip.
The Cold War ended over 25 years ago. All that overthrowing Communist govts in Central America stopped before that. That is plenty of time for the locals to recover from American influence.
Two more clowns who are about to learn about the Streisand effect the hard way.
For those who may have missed the memo:
There is not, and never has been, any such thing as "privacy" on the Internet.
If you make your profile public anywhere, someone unexpected WILL read it..and use the information that you post in a way that you probably won't like.
We now return to our regularly-scheduled flamethrowing, already in progress...
All the world's an analog stage, and digital circuits play only bit parts.
So people should stop taking illegal drugs? Nope, we'd much rather take the easy way out. That and if we weren't the market, someone else would be, and those countries would still have drug-lords, we just wouldn't be the cause of it.
Willfully identifying feds for the purpose of a crime is a FELONY. No, the fact that the data was on LinkedIn does not matter.
This is why people donâ(TM)t take you seriously. Fucking stupid.
Before you downmod, check that guy's sick posting history
You are willful-lying identifying federal individuals so they can be harassed or manipulated, this is a crime slashdot. WTF
Wait until a link is found between MS-13 or cartels and people doing these kinds of acts and then there will be reason enough to declare martial law.
Oh, only 1 in 164 kids is being trafficked? Carry on then. Mami needs her medicaid.
That "data repository" is simply mass doxxing of ICE employees. It has absolutely no legitimate use, at best it is intended to intimidate the ICE-employees. Whoever sees that as a legitimate way to influence (immigration) policy is obviously unwilling to play by democratic rules.
"By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing... kill yourself." -- Bill Hicks
So now Slashdot is purposefully endorsing doxing government employees for doing their job and keeping our country safe?
ICE is behaving in the most disgusting, despotic fashion right now. All of its employees should be scared into quitting their jobs. Don't give me any of this shit about having "no choice" but to work there, either. This is America, you're not assigned your labour like the Soviet Fucking Union. You *CHOOSE* which job to have and you *CHOOSE* to ignore any evils that your employer is committing. I don't care if all you do is clean the toilets and sweep the floors at ICE, you *ARE* complicit with what's been going on just by drawing a paycheck from them. If the only employer willing to give me a job was ICE, I'd rather turn to robbery to feed myself and my family.
Everyone in this thread who has been defending them and going strictly by the letter of the law with regards to the "definition of a criminal" can get fucked. You have no idea what these families are escaping, but I would love to put all of you on a plane, take your passports from you and drop you off in the countries they're fleeing. It's because of your shitty opinions that I hope America gets its ass kicked hard some time in the future, and I hope the winds don't carry the fallout too far outside your borders when your entire nation gets the nuclear incineration it brought upon itself.
Stop being dicks, stop making enemies and you won't have anything to worry about.
Fucking Americans.
A russian propaganda site? Well done
The Biblical passage that the administration via Sessions is referring to has been used to justify, among other things:
1. slavery
2. German Christian churches submitting to the will of the Third Reich
3. Japanese internment camps
4. segregation
5. banning interracial marriage
6. anti-gay-rights legislation
Regarding the immigrants
Exodus 22:21: Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt.
Leviticus 19:33: When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them.
Leviticus 19:34: But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Deuteronomy 27:19: Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless, or the widow.
Jeremiah 22:3: This is what the Lord says: Do what is just and right. Rescue from the hand of the oppressor the one who has been robbed. Do no wrong or violence to the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place.
Malachi 3:5: âoeSo I will come to put you on trial. I will be quick to testify against sorcerers, adulterers and perjurers, against those who defraud laborers of their wages, who oppress the widows and the fatherless, and deprive the foreigners among you of justice, but do not fear me,â says the Lord Almighty.
Hebrews 13:1-2: Keep on loving one another as brothers and sisters. Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.
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Would Billy Graham support this? No.
Would Fred Rogers support this? No. Heck No.
Would Jesus support this? I can't see how he possibly could.
If you are a christian... open your eyes.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
It's quite relevant: the state takes over from parents who expose their kids to unusual risks and illegal behavior. That's a principle we apply to citizens, and it is certainly also a principle that applies to people who expose their kids to the risk of illegal migration into the US.
Who's Antifa's astroturf? Some jewish organization? Some legit orgs are jump started by a small astroturf they don't always stay that way.
WTF is it with all this bashing of a small organization who's mission is to stop Nazis or any rebranded resurgence? It is as if we had more attack on them than we did for the Neo-Nazis -- skipping criticism which is rather tired and old by this point but it is far more important to go after Nazi fanboys. Beating the shit out of Nazis is not ideally civilized but it is not the same as just about anything else; besides, they are the exception for the whole planet (FYI, war is not civilized.) One would think a tiny little known group like Antifa would be praised and people signing up like crazy when they got on the national scene protesting our recent Nazi fanboy resurgence. Especially SJW who are desperate for some meaning in their lives-- they should have a far better outlet for their righteousness... maybe they'll actually DO SOMETHING; but probably not because they really don't do anything but blab online which is why they are addicted to unfulfilling platitudes which are best suited for P.C. policing.
I question the motives or intelligence of people who jump on the bandwagon to attack the anti-Nazi crowd.
For every open Nazi fanatic there are 100s of like minded people who are not as extreme but agree with a lot of it.... just like in Germany (and quite a few in the USA at the time.) That is why you can go from fringe minority to movement size suddenly when the majority of the group decides to take action as a group... not necessarily ever following the extreme elements which always do tend to stand out. It's a silent majority of the subgroup; the so-called fanatics are never very silent, only appeased to keep their profile down.
It's an issue for all issue organizations-- look at the political parties-- they are always trying to keep a handle on their internal factions and keep them from bringing down the group or taking over too much of the group and fracturing the base. Before Obama, we had border-line fanatics who jumped the fence once a black man was in and Faux News got big on race baiting them (if you didn't see it, stop reading) and then with Trump's less subtle manipulation they felt safe to come out in the open and surprised people by how much they've grown in number and boldness. This was just those border-line fanatics that had flipped from being silent. It is proper for people to be concerned about further progression; especially around the less fanatic fascists who can rally the larger group: their real base, who will tolerate them just like any party does with it's fringes. Some are seriously wondering if this IS Trump and Trump is at minimum trying to troll concerned people (he does seem to take pleasure in tormenting people who care about things; not really understanding this himself.) You can debate this all you like, but he's clearly sending out signals to them, either he doesn't know how to be subtle, doesn't care, or wants to enjoy trolling people he mocks for caring about something greater than themselves (which totally fits his psych profile.)
Democracy Now! - uncensored, anti-establishment news
Before you spout off your "facts" you might want to look at that alt-right Trumpist media apologist, NPR for some other information.
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19...
I'm sorry it doesn't reinforce your rage-aholism.
That is called the Public School System.
The repo is still available at https://gitlab.com/marge_innov.... But Linkedin has blocked the URL for the search and all the data has disappeared from the internet. The government using BLS and census bureau tracks and monitors almost everything. I think it is good for people to monitor the government.
WHEN INJUSTICE IS LAW
REVOLUTION IS NECESSARY
2. The vast majority do NOT arrive with an adult. 80% are unaccompanied. Also, not sure where you are getting the .61% for traffickers, sounds like something you made up or some academics misuse of statistics. At most you could know that .61% were convicted of trafficking.
3. Again, you are making shit up.
4. See 3 above
5. Sounds like you suffer from white privilege
6. Obama treated the 80% of unaccompanied children exactly the same as Trump is treating them. The only difference is that Obama didn't enforce the law against the parent.
7. Because asylum was and is being abused.
I actually like that he's enforcing the most draconian option. That's generally the best way to show just how bad a law is and how much it needs to be changed, coupled with the greatest chance of political support for making a change.
Honestly, if the Democrats spent half as much effort trying to fix the immigration laws as they do blovating about them we would have had this fixed ages ago. Unfortunately, I think the politicians prefer to have it as a campaign issue than as a solved problem and so prefer the status quo.
Jesus, please help your followers and the atheists who always point out how you would feel to understand that the United States of America is not a god damned theocracy and that if they want to live in a god damned theocracy they should move to Iran or Vatican City as I cant think of any other god damned theocracies on the planet right now and also please explain to them that labeling someone a nazi and punching them is about as ridiculous as shooting a bear and yelling 'omg its coming at us' and that there is no law excluding people who punch nazis from the definition of assault and finally thank your pops for the mexican win over the descendants of the nazis in the world cup as that was a truly miraculous goal, IJNWP, AMEN
Way to argue against the points made!
made using publicly available information compiled by the asbury free press
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ3O-MKTWKDHs90QoGjjiJgjL1YRMApTQ9EqHuVsRVM5fuiY5srZbcieOj5ohA2_9wu3W_TJ_5O6J52/pubhtml
And here is photographic evidence that proves that you are either lying or completely misinformed. You really need to quit watching MSNBC and CNN exclusively.
It's getting old to say that they really are the definition of fake news and they are actively lying to the population to spread their left-leaning, political agenda.
I tend to be rather selective as to where I travel, doubly so with my kids... regardless of your perception as to why.
You must work for the Mexico Tourism Commission... what a great attitude!
Good, ICE is doing a good job and the fault lies squarely on the actions of parents.
Where's the outrage when AMERICAN children get sperated when parents are in detention?
Not a bad thing at all.
They may have taken the jobs out of desperation, but they didn't have to announce the fact on LinkedIn. They made the information about themselves public.
Using your logic, the doctors who provide abortion openly also deserve to be compiled into a list and have that list publicly posted.
The people that run US concentration camps
Interesting. Where are these, and who is being tortured, gassed to death, medically experimented on, executed without trial and/or forced to make munitions to support a war?
Someone should publicise this shit.
Tell that to someone in south american or mexico who has their child kidnapped in revenge.
It's tragic to lose a child. Once it happens, everyone will be screaming, "Why didn't anyone warn us!?!?"
The U.S. government is kidnapping 70 toddlers and babies a day now. Each one of those has at least a half dozen relatives who will want payback. Republicans and Mr. Trump are making more new enemeis for the U.S. all over the world but especially in mexico and south america.
Use your brain dumbass.
The Liberal's Creed
When in danger
When in doubt
Run in circles
Scream and shout
I wish I wasn't slightly inebriated when I wrote that. Maybe I wouldn't have left out so many words.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Aaand there's the "troll" mod anyway, because somebody can't deal with facts that temper emotional appeal.
Here's another fact: in some of these cases, they're not even the children and parents. They've been paired up because the smuggling rings are aware that having children generally got you through the system because it played on these exact sympathies. Those people are essentially human trafficking.
Facts aside, it is sad that children are pulled from their parents, but almost no one is putting any blame for the parents for putting their kids in this situation in the first place as they break another country's laws. If they went legally to the right ingress points and declared they were looking for asylum, they'd be treated better.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
So what percent of criminals should the government actually prosecute? Since you don't like 100% you must have some other number in mind. Is it 10%? 5%? 0%?.
I elect my government representatives to enforce 100% of the laws. If members of the legislature don't like the laws let them change them. The best way to get a bad law changes is to enforce it. If you ignore it it gets selectively enforced and becomes a weapon of the government against the people.
When 100,000 illegal immigrants invade your country in less than a year you are under invasion. Most countries would have called out the military by now. The legislature would have declared war on the country from whom the invaders are coming.
Personally I think are immigration laws suck. But I also think the Congress, who is responsible for passing laws, are the ones who need to fix them.
Photos of children in cages were from 2014, under the Obama administration.
Putting kids in cages = bad. It doesn't fucking matter who was president at the time.
Current outrage is centered on accompanied minors being taken from parents where the only charge is being in country illegally. Do try to keep up.
The reason for pointing this out is to expose the hypocrisy and falseness of your faux moral panic. You only gave a shit when you lost the election. Before then literally anything horrible could be done to children, because Obama.
Speaking of elections republicans are going to be thumped into the stone age. Something I very much look forward simply to spit in Trump's face. Unfortunately this means Demoncraps will win seats but it will so be worth it.
Based on some legal filings I'm seeing, Mickeysoft wasn't quick enough to avoid the lawyers who think they can go after them for hosting this info and conspiring with their LinkedIn subsidiary to provide it. The deep pockets strategy strikes again.
Aaand there's the "troll" mod anyway, because somebody can't deal with facts that temper emotional appeal.
This is unfortunate. Even if someone is dumb and wrong if they honestly believe in what they were saying it's crap to mark them a troll. Just because someone looks like a troll doesn't mean they are actually one.
Regurgitating logically incoherent political talking points unmoored from reality is the same side of the coin as "emotional appeal". None of it is based on objective reality. Don't kid yourself.
Here's another fact: in some of these cases, they're not even the children and parents. They've been paired up because the smuggling rings are aware that having children generally got you through the system because it played on these exact sympathies. Those people are essentially human trafficking.
This is the same class of unfalsifiable gobblygook Trump and every other prejudiced fool always pulls out of their assholes.
Someone in your neighborhood has committed a crime therefore everyone will be jailed just to be safe.
Some Mexicans and everyone from a list of countries are terrorists, criminals and rapists therefore all of them should be banned.
Some children accompanying human traffickers therefore children fleeing with their actual families must all be thrown in jail.
This garbage is so old and tired even the maggots have fled for greener pastures.
Facts aside, it is sad that children are pulled from their parents, but almost no one is putting any blame for the parents for putting their kids in this situation in the first place as they break another country's laws. If they went legally to the right ingress points and declared they were looking for asylum, they'd be treated better.
Root cause is actually largely the United States of America. We are the ones with laws promoting artificial scarcity of "hookers and blow" while the bulk of consequences of resulting illegitimacy are offshored to poor countries without sufficient capability to gain a monopoly interest on the use of violence.
Or to put it in another way you would understand. If you were poor and hungry and the only way to not starve to death was illegally stealing food you better fucking believe you would break the law too.
If they went legally to the right ingress points and declared they were looking for asylum, they'd be treated better.
This is like going to the grocery store and asking for free groceries when there is already a sign on the door saying no free groceries are available. Jeff Sessions has already weighed in on violence stemming from (U.S. caused) state failure as not grounds for asylum. The administration openly brags about it.
I canâ(TM)t believe Sam would take credit for distributing LinkedInâ(TM)s property without authorization.
The OP said "1+1=5" and I said, "No, 1+1=2" and you said, "But what about the cost of tea in china?"
It's really not possible to have a discussion with someone who is trolling or lying as trump and his supporters do constantly. Even his new Executive Order is really not going to fix anything and is (surprise!) another lie.
And this whole thing was probably an attempt to move the subject off of Mueller since Cohen and Manafort were nailed. Cohen has dirt going back decades and he's sounding increasingly surprised and irritated that Mr. Trump is hanging Cohen out to dry.
But meantime, a couple thousand kids might not ever see their parents again in their lives. Including a 9 month old baby.
This is immoral and evil.
And someone else did a much better job (and sourced) job of correcting the liar I was responding to to begin with.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
Yeah, it's just amazing how much fake news there is everywhere. If quoting Breitbart and RT are your BEST possible sources of unbiased, non-fake news out there, you need to stop. Just stop. You have zero credibility, and are in danger of dipping below that.
Only a small but vocal percentage of dyed-in-the-wool Trumpets still actually believe the bullshit - they are beyond help or hope, idiots dug in so deep with their heads so far up their own asses they can taste the Brylcream.. If they haven't seen through the Dear Leader's bullshit by now, they never will, and any attempt to reason with them merely causes them to dig in deeper. Cries of "Fake News" go up any time anyone or anything refutes their distorted world view.
I'll be looking forward to Trumb getting his nuts cut off at the upcoming midterms, and complete neutralization and replacement soon thereafter. We can't impeach him, Pence would be much worse, being a sneaky shit who is both evil and NOT incompetent, his potential for damage is much greater than Trumb's, who is limited by his own stupidity and lack of being able to negotiate deals well, the only skill we actually had hoped he possessed.
But no, he's a complete charlatan, a Brooklyn street trash phony POS who was accidentally born into money. A thin-skinned, mercurial racist, a misogynistic, narcissist bigot. His only skills are self-aggrandizement and lying, and he's not particularly good even at those dubious "skills".
His attempts to "drain the swamp" are a completely failed and laughable joke, replacing only a few department heads with people determined to cripple or sabotage the very agencies they were appointed to manage. Unable to kill them outright without congressional support, all he can do is maximize the damage by appointing incompetent morons to do his bidding, which is to tear down the agencies from within. See EPA, Dept of Education, HHS, FCC, CFPB, etc. for examples. All the assholes he has appointed are doing their best to destroy them from within, with lackeys ranging from incompetent nincompoops (see HHS, Dept of Education) to outright criminals (see EPA, etc.).
I just hope the damage this asshole and his band of thugs causes is reversible, eventually. It may take more than 4 years to un-do all the harmful policies he has instituted, and it will probably take many more years before the USA is no longer a universally hated entity with the rest of the world.
But hey, as long as TRUMB goes down in history with all the other great dictators of our time, like Putin, Kim Jong Un, Erdogan, and Duterte, he will be in great company once he gets to Hell. They should have LOTS to talk about 'til the end of eternity.
These people are beyond reasoning. Don't bother. Just make mental notes of who's justifying concentration camps for children around you, and make their lives difficult in any legal way you have.