>> Lots of people (myself included) get a huge amount of entertainment from PC gaming.
<jest> Man, you sound like a person that would waste $50 a month for cable modem when you can get perfectly good internet over the phone line for less than $10. Or might spend $20,000 on a car when you can take the bus for $1. Or pay $4 for a drink at the nightclub when you just buy a six pack and stay at home. Whats next? Blowing money to eat at a restaurant when you could have just made a peanut butter sandwich at home? Foolish! Foolish I say!
Everyone knows that it is just plain stupid to spend money on something you enjoy. </jest>
What makes it next generation isn't the power, it is the usability. I still play more games on my computer (P4ht/3.2ghz w/7600gt) than I do the Wii, but the CONTROL on the Wii, and the controllers, are absolutely the best. The Wii isn't more powerful than even my old computer, but the gaming EXPERIENCE is much better.
As an old fart who games a fair amount, I would say that the games on PC are more realistic, but playing on the Wii is actually more fun. Look better? No, just more fun.
1. EULAs have yet to pass muster in court. 2. It is still their software, regardless if you agree or disagree. You don't buy software, you buy a license to use it. 3. Regardless of EULA, the DMCA (as unconstitutional as it is) has made reverse engineering to bypass encryption (DRM) illegal, so no, you can't just reverse engineer or decompile it legally unless you qualify as an exception under this corrupt, but still current law.
They can do anything they want with their own system. The real problem is that they seem to be changing the rules AFTER the fact, and not letting someone buy the US version after buying a foreign version.
My guess is they will fix the issue and appologize, but they are fucking up royal in the meantime. Particularly since guys like me have always been fans of Steam, but won't continue if they shit on customers.
I'm as pissed as anyone, but you are simply spreading FUD. I have a box that I never log onto with Steam, and I play the games just fine. As long as you last successfully logged on, then firewall it off, it will cache the password and let you play locally.
If you log on from ANOTHER computer with steam, then try to play a game on the first system and it is not firewalled, then it will ask for your password, to make sure two are not ONLINE at the same time with the same account.
I play halflife1 on my laptop all the time without logging in.
I noticed they CHANGED the title and removed the word "illegal" without a proper UPDATE tag. Kinda cheezy for/. to do this, and creates confusion as anyone reading now might be thinking "wtf is this idiot thinking? the word illegal isn't in the title at all..."
'Illegal' and 'unconstitutional' are not 100% interchangable, per se. That's the only point I was making. Just as civil and criminal violations are not always the same, but *can* be the same act under some circumstances.
FISA can be argued either way. Not giving a personal opinion here, but at least it *is* a court, of sorts, that a warrant is issued from (per 4th). It also seems to have passed some review. Searches under the Patriot Act without any warrant are considerably easier to argue as illegal or at least unconstitutional in any circumstance. Patriot Act searches aren't enjoying the same success in court as FISA searches.
Regardless of anyone's opinion of FISA, it is still vastly superior to warrentless searches being conducted under the guise of the Patriot Act.
Correct. If these were "Patriot Act" taps outside FISA, then the term 'illegal' *might* could be used, in quotes. A bit of sensationalizing that Taco let through. Still, a nice payday for Comcast.
Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was actually a great piece of software, and even had wins32 to run Photoshop and such. Not perfect, but perfectly minimalistic and fast enough, and you could fine tune a fair amount of settings (time slices, etc). I still like multitasking better, but it was as good as you can expect for a non-multitasking OS desktop.
Personally I would rather see an EASIER option to run computers with the standard win95 interface. Every boxen we install has to be changed over in 15 ways to make it 'look' like win95, just for the speed. We only keep the shadows under the desktop icons which is pretty nice. Everything else is swapped to 'classic' mode, including disabling all the crapping zooming windows. I can't be the only one that uses their computer fast enough to find all this eyecandy incredibly irritating. I have already said that if our office tries to switch to Vista, I'm gone. (small shop, I _am_ the IT dept, among other things, so it's not likely.) Even the Linux desktop is getting bloated with too much eyecandy.
Attention GUI writers: some of use the computer to do things. Simply running the computer to run the computer is not why we have them. Quit making our new computers boot up and start programs slower than a Mac Plus.
so could always copy the look of a site, and yet Microsoft still "played along".
But who the hell would want a site that looks like microsofts?
Besides, they sell the t00lz to mad hax0rZ so they can steal images and html and make copies of Adobe GoLive pages using FrontPage. They are just as bad as the l0pht and cDc and 2600 d00dz!
How many people don't use any service from their ISP except internet connectivity? I couldn't tell you what my "free" email address is, or what their USENET server name/IP is, or anything else they offer. I pay to get access to the net and won't install their "extra" software with a bunch of shit that changes my preferences, homepage, etc. I am betting I am not the only one that finds most ISP's "free" software and such to be enough of a pain in the ass to not warrant finding out anything else they offer.
I was thinking the same thing, that TF2 is worth the $50. It is weird that everyone is bitching so much. TF2 will cost $60 by itself on the consoles, so would Portal if released for consoles. I may not like the way they bundled the games, but the fact is, the price is cheap for everything you are getting. Damn cheap, AND you can give away two games and yes, so they can drum up new biz.
Still: What you pay vs. what you get, it is a very good deal. Perhaps their marketing of the price is bad, but the deal isn't.
nice analogy. We all feel for him because of the hate for RIAA and all things related, but your analogy is 100% spot on: it is still hypcritical of us all.
Um, yea. I got that. That is what I was saying. If I had gone and found the man was refusing to sell to my child solely because of their grades, I would have stopped buying anything from that business. That was the entire point of my post.
why that isn't clear (including to mods) totally escapes me.
I don't think you understand how that works. There is no "exempt", since it isn't a federal law to be rated. And even if there was (and there never will be, even movies are not rated because of any law...) what matters is when something is distributed, NOT when it was made.
Corporate America has no place deciding what grades my kids can have and what the punishment should be if their grades don't meet "their" standards. This is as fucking bad as the government wanting to make the whole world child proof, or the whole "someonethinkofthechildren".
Reward for good grades? Ok, fine. Refuse to sell because of bad grades? Screw you, I don't want to give my business anyway. It is the parent's job, not the corporation's.
I respect you Bruce, but you are avoiding a point you know to be true: Linus 'gave' RMS the kernel to make RMS's dreams come true, as HURD was/is getting nowhere fast. Linus has done more to advance RMS's goals than anyone else, even though it was never his intention or goal. We have all came along for the ride. RMS loves politics, and hasn't written much code lately. It is Linus' apothy for politics that led to the fast development.
And now anyone that doesn't agree with and adopt the GPL 3 be damned. It is the most closed minded nonsense I have ever seen in the 'free' software movement.
I know RMS is a huge factor in why we have so much great FOSS software, but I'm sick of hearing him badger everyone who feels slightly different about what is Open and what is Free. It is ok to have an opinion as long as you agree with RMS? No thanks, that isn't my idea of freedom, software or otherwise, and sometimes this is exactly how he comes across.
He didn't say QEMM was made by MS. He said by adding it, it was better. I think you were reading more in the comment than was there.
As to QEMM, I ran multiline BBS's on both IBM DOS 4 and MS DOS 5 and QEMM. There was a insane difference, even with just 2mb ram and an even more insane amount of hand tuning to get three instances of the BBS with a single shared RAM drive for overlay files. (Ezycom)
The difference between 4 and 5, imho, was greater than any other single version, including 6.x
There is no basis for what you are claiming and I think you are missing the point. First, you can never lose the rights to use the software. Read it yourself. By design, steam can fix an oversight by simply uploading the license to you when you log in. This isn't the same as a proprietary license, so they can distribute as long as they comply, as there is no court order forcing them to stop. You NEVER need to ask permission to distribute GPL software, outside of a court order banning you.
Most important: it was a simple oversight, ID is very pro GPL, and everyone who is making a big deal out of this, accusing them of "theft" has not a single clue. It is good that it was found and fixed, and that maybe someone can learn a little about the GPL, but they god damn sure aren't going to learn about the GPL from reading slashot and the linked blog. jeez...
You are aware that "redhat sucks" has over 800,000 ghits alone, and there are more than a few people who think RH screwed their customers over a few years ago? I won't even go into what is incorrect about your statements, as you make too many assumptions to make sense.
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>> Lots of people (myself included) get a huge amount of entertainment from PC gaming.
<jest>
Man, you sound like a person that would waste $50 a month for cable modem when you can get perfectly good internet over the phone line for less than $10. Or might spend $20,000 on a car when you can take the bus for $1. Or pay $4 for a drink at the nightclub when you just buy a six pack and stay at home. Whats next? Blowing money to eat at a restaurant when you could have just made a peanut butter sandwich at home? Foolish! Foolish I say!
Everyone knows that it is just plain stupid to spend money on something you enjoy.
</jest>
Because even Will Wright says that the Wii is the only next generation console.
What makes it next generation isn't the power, it is the usability. I still play more games on my computer (P4ht/3.2ghz w/7600gt) than I do the Wii, but the CONTROL on the Wii, and the controllers, are absolutely the best. The Wii isn't more powerful than even my old computer, but the gaming EXPERIENCE is much better.
As an old fart who games a fair amount, I would say that the games on PC are more realistic, but playing on the Wii is actually more fun. Look better? No, just more fun.
1. EULAs have yet to pass muster in court.
2. It is still their software, regardless if you agree or disagree. You don't buy software, you buy a license to use it.
3. Regardless of EULA, the DMCA (as unconstitutional as it is) has made reverse engineering to bypass encryption (DRM) illegal, so no, you can't just reverse engineer or decompile it legally unless you qualify as an exception under this corrupt, but still current law.
They can do anything they want with their own system. The real problem is that they seem to be changing the rules AFTER the fact, and not letting someone buy the US version after buying a foreign version.
My guess is they will fix the issue and appologize, but they are fucking up royal in the meantime. Particularly since guys like me have always been fans of Steam, but won't continue if they shit on customers.
I'm as pissed as anyone, but you are simply spreading FUD. I have a box that I never log onto with Steam, and I play the games just fine. As long as you last successfully logged on, then firewall it off, it will cache the password and let you play locally.
If you log on from ANOTHER computer with steam, then try to play a game on the first system and it is not firewalled, then it will ask for your password, to make sure two are not ONLINE at the same time with the same account.
I play halflife1 on my laptop all the time without logging in.
Baseball isn't boring. It's a great sport where the team with the best performance enhancing drugs wins. What can be more American than that?
Of course, this explains why I haven't watched it since the 80s. It's about as honest as boxing. Or maybe pro wrestling. Or voting in Chicago.
I noticed they CHANGED the title and removed the word "illegal" without a proper UPDATE tag. Kinda cheezy for /. to do this, and creates confusion as anyone reading now might be thinking "wtf is this idiot thinking? the word illegal isn't in the title at all..."
Let the bad moderation begin.
> 'illegal' *might* could be used
Illegal might? That sounds scary.
'Illegal' and 'unconstitutional' are not 100% interchangable, per se. That's the only point I was making. Just as civil and criminal violations are not always the same, but *can* be the same act under some circumstances.
FISA can be argued either way. Not giving a personal opinion here, but at least it *is* a court, of sorts, that a warrant is issued from (per 4th). It also seems to have passed some review. Searches under the Patriot Act without any warrant are considerably easier to argue as illegal or at least unconstitutional in any circumstance. Patriot Act searches aren't enjoying the same success in court as FISA searches.
Regardless of anyone's opinion of FISA, it is still vastly superior to warrentless searches being conducted under the guise of the Patriot Act.
Correct. If these were "Patriot Act" taps outside FISA, then the term 'illegal' *might* could be used, in quotes. A bit of sensationalizing that Taco let through. Still, a nice payday for Comcast.
Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was actually a great piece of software, and even had wins32 to run Photoshop and such. Not perfect, but perfectly minimalistic and fast enough, and you could fine tune a fair amount of settings (time slices, etc). I still like multitasking better, but it was as good as you can expect for a non-multitasking OS desktop.
Personally I would rather see an EASIER option to run computers with the standard win95 interface. Every boxen we install has to be changed over in 15 ways to make it 'look' like win95, just for the speed. We only keep the shadows under the desktop icons which is pretty nice. Everything else is swapped to 'classic' mode, including disabling all the crapping zooming windows. I can't be the only one that uses their computer fast enough to find all this eyecandy incredibly irritating. I have already said that if our office tries to switch to Vista, I'm gone. (small shop, I _am_ the IT dept, among other things, so it's not likely.) Even the Linux desktop is getting bloated with too much eyecandy.
Attention GUI writers: some of use the computer to do things. Simply running the computer to run the computer is not why we have them. Quit making our new computers boot up and start programs slower than a Mac Plus.
so could always copy the look of a site, and yet Microsoft still "played along".
But who the hell would want a site that looks like microsofts?
Besides, they sell the t00lz to mad hax0rZ so they can steal images and html and make copies of Adobe GoLive pages using FrontPage. They are just as bad as the l0pht and cDc and 2600 d00dz!
(showing my age now...)
How many people don't use any service from their ISP except internet connectivity? I couldn't tell you what my "free" email address is, or what their USENET server name/IP is, or anything else they offer. I pay to get access to the net and won't install their "extra" software with a bunch of shit that changes my preferences, homepage, etc. I am betting I am not the only one that finds most ISP's "free" software and such to be enough of a pain in the ass to not warrant finding out anything else they offer.
Hey does anyone know how I can dual boot ME and Vista?
Yes, use GRUB. The question is: why?
Then wouldn't it be in Microsoft's best interest to ship all installable releases with deliberately deficient code?
Are you saying they aren't?
I was thinking the same thing, that TF2 is worth the $50. It is weird that everyone is bitching so much. TF2 will cost $60 by itself on the consoles, so would Portal if released for consoles. I may not like the way they bundled the games, but the fact is, the price is cheap for everything you are getting. Damn cheap, AND you can give away two games and yes, so they can drum up new biz.
Still: What you pay vs. what you get, it is a very good deal. Perhaps their marketing of the price is bad, but the deal isn't.
Thats only true half the time.
nice analogy. We all feel for him because of the hate for RIAA and all things related, but your analogy is 100% spot on: it is still hypcritical of us all.
Um, yea. I got that. That is what I was saying. If I had gone and found the man was refusing to sell to my child solely because of their grades, I would have stopped buying anything from that business. That was the entire point of my post.
why that isn't clear (including to mods) totally escapes me.
I don't think you understand how that works. There is no "exempt", since it isn't a federal law to be rated. And even if there was (and there never will be, even movies are not rated because of any law...) what matters is when something is distributed, NOT when it was made.
Duh.
Corporate America has no place deciding what grades my kids can have and what the punishment should be if their grades don't meet "their" standards. This is as fucking bad as the government wanting to make the whole world child proof, or the whole "someonethinkofthechildren".
Reward for good grades? Ok, fine. Refuse to sell because of bad grades? Screw you, I don't want to give my business anyway. It is the parent's job, not the corporation's.
I respect you Bruce, but you are avoiding a point you know to be true: Linus 'gave' RMS the kernel to make RMS's dreams come true, as HURD was/is getting nowhere fast. Linus has done more to advance RMS's goals than anyone else, even though it was never his intention or goal. We have all came along for the ride. RMS loves politics, and hasn't written much code lately. It is Linus' apothy for politics that led to the fast development.
And now anyone that doesn't agree with and adopt the GPL 3 be damned. It is the most closed minded nonsense I have ever seen in the 'free' software movement.
I know RMS is a huge factor in why we have so much great FOSS software, but I'm sick of hearing him badger everyone who feels slightly different about what is Open and what is Free. It is ok to have an opinion as long as you agree with RMS? No thanks, that isn't my idea of freedom, software or otherwise, and sometimes this is exactly how he comes across.
He didn't say QEMM was made by MS. He said by adding it, it was better. I think you were reading more in the comment than was there.
As to QEMM, I ran multiline BBS's on both IBM DOS 4 and MS DOS 5 and QEMM. There was a insane difference, even with just 2mb ram and an even more insane amount of hand tuning to get three instances of the BBS with a single shared RAM drive for overlay files. (Ezycom)
The difference between 4 and 5, imho, was greater than any other single version, including 6.x
There is no basis for what you are claiming and I think you are missing the point. First, you can never lose the rights to use the software. Read it yourself. By design, steam can fix an oversight by simply uploading the license to you when you log in. This isn't the same as a proprietary license, so they can distribute as long as they comply, as there is no court order forcing them to stop. You NEVER need to ask permission to distribute GPL software, outside of a court order banning you.
Most important: it was a simple oversight, ID is very pro GPL, and everyone who is making a big deal out of this, accusing them of "theft" has not a single clue. It is good that it was found and fixed, and that maybe someone can learn a little about the GPL, but they god damn sure aren't going to learn about the GPL from reading slashot and the linked blog. jeez...
You are aware that "redhat sucks" has over 800,000 ghits alone, and there are more than a few people who think RH screwed their customers over a few years ago? I won't even go into what is incorrect about your statements, as you make too many assumptions to make sense.
Many of us love Linux but don't like RedHat.