They're in for a surprise then, ANYTHING passing through my computer can be logged and saved... audio, video, keystrokes. No NSA required.
Seriously though, with movies you get into the issue of quality, joe dad doesn't want fuzziness on his $5k 70" LED TV, so he buys $30 blu-rays. To stream the same, you need an insane connection that most people don't have access to. Even Netflix HD is kinda meh, and they've been trying.
Rampant piracy over refusal to adhere to draconian media industry pricing and behavior have led to the emergence of reasonable internet based alternatives to piracy and overpriced physical media.
Think $1 a song vs $15 for a cd buying online vs in store.
I agree, people have already forgotten about Katrina it seems. And there are other models that imply that weather SHOULD be different as the earth moves from ice age to ice age. Sounds like a "keep calm" statement from the government so we don't lose sleep over what's to come.
In addition, how much did Intel pay ABI for the report I wonder?
With Intel wanting to get a bigger share in the mobile market as bad as they do (they restructured around it), paying for a favorable research report doesn't sound all that out of scope.
You really don't get how what you're talking about actually works do you? The jews killed by the nazis were still dead at the time of the trial. A more worrisome development would've been if they weren't.
However, I am not aware of any way that one could "send them to prison" or force the government to stop collecting information on everyone because you think (without proof) that they've probably caught your stuff when they shouldn't have.
public protest is one way, voting out the supporting politicians is another. There is no penalty for violating the constitution, the constitution states that the government must operate within its means, we need a safeguard for when they choose not to. Jail seems like an excellent deterrent for a pudgy politician.
The bottom line is they've still collected information on US citizens that they can't constitutionally posses without a warrant. Whatever their intent is is irrelevant as they cannot constitutionally have the information in the first place.
By recording the communications without a warrant they are targeting everyone without a warrant. How about passing a law that states you go to jail for violating the constitution and then hitting the NSA with 313 million counts of it?
In the name of terrorism however, this will never happen.
Written communication by an American cannot possibly be distinguished from written communication by a foreigner. Grammar? 2nd languages? How are they able to tell who's who?
If they accidentally targeted even one American, they've just breached the constitution and are in violation of US laws that came before their grandfathers making them criminals. Why has nobody in the government been arrested over this?
Because they think they can get away with anything. Scary stuff.
You're 100% right, so here's the difference: the NSA says they have ready made stacks of exploits ready. 0-day by nature is a revolving door of ever changing exploits.
It doesn't matter how secret or back-doored Cisco is as countries like China will never use it. Their equivalent of Cisco will be hardened with no NSA back doors built in.
Right on sneaking it in, but a computer can detect when somethings connected to it and each of those devices has a unique ID, at least in windows... there's enterprise software that blocks the device and sends an alert when its plugged into a computer.
These types of software are pretty costly and smart and have been around for a long time.
A better bet would be a micro camera to take code screen shots, but that's not an easy one to not get caught on.
RTFA, they can't bring electronic devices in or out, so they can't just copy the DB and go home. They may be able to memorize an exploit or two, but that comes with the job and security clearance.
At this level yes, but what if it was given to the already semi-corrupt PD?
And what about the NSA snopping? Nobody detected that, not much you can do when you're tapped at the exchange either (Britian's case) in terms of detecting it, short of walking your wire to the exchange and ensuring its plugged in somewhere safe.
You're right about the court thing.... to date... if you know what I mean.
I'm sure they can figure out how to put a gag order on an exploit's use as well, while not making it obscure forever, it would certainly extend the exploit's life.
It probably comes down to cost, they have a limited budget and raising taxes is a sensitive issue, they simply don't have the resources and besides the NSA is already on it.
I disagree most real world exploits are configuration specific and further behind hardened network defenses. Our code is shit, but our router and switch are solid. I somehow doubt that the government has secret cisco buffer overflows that were over looked by millions of security researchers since the beginning of computing.
Spearfishing? Definitely Obscure industrial systems? Yep (see DES key article on/) Corporate / Government networks? Nah, maybe some but not most.
Systems not directly connected to the internet? Definitely not Adobe Flash and the Java plugin? Easily (don't get why though) Encryption? They face the same exact challenges, super computers aren't a catch all here.
Now to just get charlie to open your random link with exploit code from his outlook. (see #1)
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They're in for a surprise then, ANYTHING passing through my computer can be logged and saved... audio, video, keystrokes. No NSA required.
Seriously though, with movies you get into the issue of quality, joe dad doesn't want fuzziness on his $5k 70" LED TV, so he buys $30 blu-rays. To stream the same, you need an insane connection that most people don't have access to. Even Netflix HD is kinda meh, and they've been trying.
The truth is quite the opposite.
Rampant piracy over refusal to adhere to draconian media industry pricing and behavior have led to the emergence of reasonable internet based alternatives to piracy and overpriced physical media.
Think $1 a song vs $15 for a cd buying online vs in store.
The most useless checkbox in the history of browsers.
I agree, people have already forgotten about Katrina it seems. And there are other models that imply that weather SHOULD be different as the earth moves from ice age to ice age. Sounds like a "keep calm" statement from the government so we don't lose sleep over what's to come.
It is well within recent event's limits to believe that he is being funded by the FCC... who want to censor real life: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NDPT0Ph5rA
Pretty sure NoScript blocks it. Analytics is JS based which is what NoScript is for.
This is true, now you can add Amazon to that list.
And that's why smoking is disallowed in airplane bathrooms.
In addition, how much did Intel pay ABI for the report I wonder?
With Intel wanting to get a bigger share in the mobile market as bad as they do (they restructured around it), paying for a favorable research report doesn't sound all that out of scope.
You really don't get how what you're talking about actually works do you? The jews killed by the nazis were still dead at the time of the trial. A more worrisome development would've been if they weren't.
There is currently no penalty.
There is no way of passing a law after some repugnant behavior occurs
They're still monitoring you.
However, I am not aware of any way that one could "send them to prison" or force the government to stop collecting information on everyone because you think (without proof) that they've probably caught your stuff when they shouldn't have.
public protest is one way, voting out the supporting politicians is another. There is no penalty for violating the constitution, the constitution states that the government must operate within its means, we need a safeguard for when they choose not to. Jail seems like an excellent deterrent for a pudgy politician.
Yes the Patriot act used in this way is unconstitutional. The question is whether they were acting inside or outside of the bounds of the patriot act.
The bottom line is they've still collected information on US citizens that they can't constitutionally posses without a warrant. Whatever their intent is is irrelevant as they cannot constitutionally have the information in the first place.
Did the NSA buy Skype for Microsoft?
No, but the NSA probably paid MS more in tax payer dollars for access to that information than skype cost to buy for MS.
By recording the communications without a warrant they are targeting everyone without a warrant. How about passing a law that states you go to jail for violating the constitution and then hitting the NSA with 313 million counts of it?
In the name of terrorism however, this will never happen.
Written communication by an American cannot possibly be distinguished from written communication by a foreigner. Grammar? 2nd languages? How are they able to tell who's who?
If they accidentally targeted even one American, they've just breached the constitution and are in violation of US laws that came before their grandfathers making them criminals. Why has nobody in the government been arrested over this?
Because they think they can get away with anything. Scary stuff.
Rather than bringing the materials here we could send the lab there... oh wait: that's exactly what we did with Curiosity!
I'd also like a quote for how much it would cost to build a villa from this martian rock.
*shrug* No... just no.
You're 100% right, so here's the difference: the NSA says they have ready made stacks of exploits ready. 0-day by nature is a revolving door of ever changing exploits.
It doesn't matter how secret or back-doored Cisco is as countries like China will never use it. Their equivalent of Cisco will be hardened with no NSA back doors built in.
Right on sneaking it in, but a computer can detect when somethings connected to it and each of those devices has a unique ID, at least in windows... there's enterprise software that blocks the device and sends an alert when its plugged into a computer.
These types of software are pretty costly and smart and have been around for a long time.
A better bet would be a micro camera to take code screen shots, but that's not an easy one to not get caught on.
Exploit = pipe wrench.
RTFA, they can't bring electronic devices in or out, so they can't just copy the DB and go home. They may be able to memorize an exploit or two, but that comes with the job and security clearance.
At this level yes, but what if it was given to the already semi-corrupt PD?
And what about the NSA snopping? Nobody detected that, not much you can do when you're tapped at the exchange either (Britian's case) in terms of detecting it, short of walking your wire to the exchange and ensuring its plugged in somewhere safe.
You're right about the court thing.... to date... if you know what I mean.
I'm sure they can figure out how to put a gag order on an exploit's use as well, while not making it obscure forever, it would certainly extend the exploit's life.
It probably comes down to cost, they have a limited budget and raising taxes is a sensitive issue, they simply don't have the resources and besides the NSA is already on it.
I disagree most real world exploits are configuration specific and further behind hardened network defenses. Our code is shit, but our router and switch are solid. I somehow doubt that the government has secret cisco buffer overflows that were over looked by millions of security researchers since the beginning of computing.
Spearfishing? Definitely /)
Obscure industrial systems? Yep (see DES key article on
Corporate / Government networks? Nah, maybe some but not most.
Systems not directly connected to the internet? Definitely not
Adobe Flash and the Java plugin? Easily (don't get why though)
Encryption? They face the same exact challenges, super computers aren't a catch all here.
Now to just get charlie to open your random link with exploit code from his outlook. (see #1)