A bunch of avowed leftists/marxists who have no specilized exptertise in climatology write the president a letter whining about greenhouse gases, and the president roundfiles the letter... good, I would have too. I don't know what was in it, but color me less than shocked if it came off as a bunch of leftist/environmentalist wanking...
Argumentum Ad Verecundiam, or the Appeal to False Authority, I belive it's called... a rather large example of such, I'd say.
And yes, the president decided not to waste our time with Kyoto... it was voted down 98-0 in the senate for cripes sakes... he couldn't have done anything with it anyways. It's called a reality check. Check out how treaties are ratified in this country sometime...
Umm, since when did "Freedom of Speech" entail that I be forced to use my time, resources, etc to post your idiotic reply to something I just recently posted about you? You want to reply? Great. Set up your own damned webserver/paper/whatever, and go forth to spread the good news.
Really, I can't really see how people can belive that you can force others to do things against their will but still throw the word "freedom" in there. Egads. Evidently here on/., contradictory thoughts earn you a 5, Insightful rating.
The bid to remove inheritance taxes is, plain and simple, a desire to create a permanent aristocracy in America.
Bullshit. The bid to remove inheritance taxes is a bid for people to keep more of their money. The fact that you think inheritance should be outlawed scares me. You are saying that people can't use their money in any way they want. If I have a couple million dollars, and want to will it to my kids, I should be able to do that, without the greedy government taking yet another bite out of that money (that has been taxed numerous times beforehand).
evidently, class envy is running at a pretty high level around here...
Since when was life ever fair? And if you want fair, you can't get more fair than a flat tax. You flat out tax everyone the same percentage, say 15%. Person X makes $30,000 a year, and pays $4500 in taxes. Person Y makes $300,000 a year, and pays $45000 in taxes. Guess what. the person who makes more pays more, the person who makes less pays less. That's how a percentage works. The notion that because Person Y makes $300,000 a year, they should they pay a 30% tax is ridiculous. Who is ANYONE to tell Person Y how to use their money, or that they don't deserve it, or that they have to pay more? If you feel guilty making $300,000, then by all means, give money away, do what you have to do to assuage your guilt. But don't force Person Y to do the same thing. It's no one else's money but theirs.
Nobody is guaranteed an easy life. Forcefully taking more from the people who can afford it to "redistribute" it is bullshit. No one else has a right to the money that another owns.
Exactly.
Actually, from what I've heard, Bush's tax cuts, etc are for giving back/making things more proportional. i.e., if you are of the 10% rich, then you get more back, because you have paid more. Conversely, if you paid little, you get little back. Why in hell people have problems with this I'll never understand. You pay more, you get more back. There is nothing wrong with that whatsoever.
As for Brin's "rant", it just seems to be more liberalist crap. He's just perpetuating the liberal notion that it's the government's money, not yours, and even if it was yours, the government knows best how to handle it. Never mind that for inheritance taxes, they are taxing income and goods that have already been taxed. Never mind that the government should be in no way whatsoever entitled to get up to 50% of someone's equity and goods and such just because they died and wanted to pass it on to their offspring.
This makes the flat tax idea seem a great one. Bring on the flat tax, remove the marriage penalty and the inheritance tax (it bothers more than just the rich ya know, though some people wouldn't want you to know that), and dammit, tax EVERYONE equally (that's the way percentages work).
hey, who knows. Giving the government less of our money to work with might be the single most effective way at reducing government.
The reason a lot of us "mysql fans" never mention the licensing terms is that we (or at least I) really don't care. It's open enough in my book (I get to see source), and previous versions have been GNU-ified for the zealots.
I care about a certain level of freedom (I wanna see source) as a bare minimum. after that, bigger concerns, such as "does it work"? and "how well does it work"? take precedence over the fact that the license isn't as open as some GNU zealot wants it to be.
Why? Because unless they wanted to kill that beefy SQL server, mysql works just fine. Yes, most of us read that nice little article on "Why not mysql?", and lots of people rightly concluded that they guy had a stick up his arse about something, and decided to take it out on the mysql team. Mysql does just fine for slashdot. It's a hell of a lot faster than postgres, and more server friendly too. Remember that for all the hoopla and glitz and glamor, slashdot is a relatively easy setup, not requiring really complex database setups, or "ACID" compliance.
Besides, what's wrong with helping the mysql team? pretty soon, mysql gets most of the features everyones been bitching about (including the replication, thanks Andover!), and it still blows the pants off other dbs in terms of raw speed, and suddenly, the recently much maligned mysql does kick some serious arse.
There should be NO limit to that. If your financial institutions make it possible for you to conduct business on the web, then they should take the necessary precautions with said data as well. We don't need the courts/government/whoever, telling us that we can't link anywhere. If you put the data up, it is your responsibility to manage it however you wish. If you don't want to do that, then don't put your info up for all to see on a website. That same argument goes for the people living and dying on banner ads...
The web is basically a free-for-all. A freely accessible library useable by anyone with a web-broswer and a net connection. If you put data up, but want it visible by only a select few, take the time to manage your data that way. Otherwise, you can't bitch.
Besides, I can't see why people would bitch about it. They are still getting hits, and by others linking to them (deep or not), getting more exposure. This is what the web SHOULD be. It's sad that we may need the courts to decide that for us. In ticketmaster's case, I can't really believe that they are bitching because they still got the sale. Now misrepresentation is another matter entirely, but that is already illegal, web or no. That shouldn't be a determination of whether deep linking is legal or not.
Sure, maybe. But for him to legitmately do that, there has to be a clearly defined and industry accepted meaning of open source. Otherwise, that term will go the way of "hacker", and pretty soon won't mean anything.
And that still doesn't take care of the peons who are criticizing sun not for calling it "open source" (have they done that?), but for the license not being open enough...
Why is it that everyone feels that is their right and duty to criticize businesses who decide to take a risk and open up their code (Apple, Sun, etc) because the licenses aren't what YOU feel they should be? Is everyone forgetting the saying "he who writes the code picks the license"? It would seem even Linus is forgetting that one now.
Cripes, we should be happy that they are even giving us a chance to look at source code. If you don't like the terms of the license, then for god's sake don't bother making changes... It's not like 95% of the people bitching could even make a change, much less understand half of what they would be looking at anyways.
Whoopie. Who gives a shit about the front end webservers when the meat of the whole operation happens behind the scenes with the database transactions, which in this case run on Sun servers. (If they didn't they wouldn't blame Sun whenever their site goes down).
There is more to life than webserving, my ignorant friend.
Yeah, maybe they should. Because we all know how well Linux scales past 4 processors...
When you can get Linux running as well as solaris on a Starfire (Sun E-10000, 16 procs minimum), then go knocking on E-Bay's door. Until then, quit dreaming and start coding.
Besides which, all of E-bay's problems stem from the fact that they have idiot admins who don't install the patches sun gives them , then decide to not keep backups...
Uhh, Perl is evil. But, unlike Java, it has it's uses. This whole thing would be better if it were written in C (straght ANSI C, none of this object bullshit)
Yeah, it's real cool to see a local boy in the news... "Look Everyone!!! We's got IDIOTS here in Green Bay!!!" (technically, it was Ashwaubenon, but they're just a suburb) Idiots abound everywhere, but usually you try to not broadcast the fact. It almost seems as Davis has reached McCarthy status, as where he lives is always mentioned in the same breath as who he is...
I really wish that some of you morons would get off this kick that american government is trying to control the whole of the Internet. Whenever censorship of the Internet is mentioned, please get it into your head that they mean IN THE US ONLY!!! Even government officials can figure out that they can't control the Internet beyond US borders. They can only suggest to other countries what they would like to see done, and it is done at that.
3. NASA needs to get out of the way and let privatization of space begin in a meaningful way. Space does not belong to the government of the United States
Says you. No one said it does. But NASA's existance doesn't preclude the existance of privatized space programs. This is not to say that privatized space programs would be good either, because they wouldn't.
The fact that no other country (sans Russia/Soviet Union) has much of a space program to speak of isn't NASA's fault for cripes sakes.
Hmm, one needs to win popularity contests to get stuff submitted into the BSD distrobution (oh yeah, which version are we talking?) Assuming you are talking about FreeBSD, I'm just taking a wild guess that Jordan K. Hubbard would have a disagreement with you about that. And even if it was true, are we all forgetting how one becomes a name in the Free/Open software circles? That's right, you do something GOOD.
Good technical merit will get you just as far in the BSD camps as it will in the Linux camp. You just sound like someone who had one of their submissions turned down...
I really don't understand why Netscape don't break it into components and market it as a "suite" of nice, small, streamlined programs.
Probably because Netscape/Mozilla operates like 99% of the world: If it makes good common sense, for all that is blessed and holy, don't do it. I myself see absolutely no reason why all that BS has to be integrated into one giant, POS 13MB+ binary pig. The browser should just be everything needed to render pages (which includes a jvm, javascript interpreter, CSS interpreter, etc), but which does NOT include a mail client, a useless news client, an html editor, and instant messanger client, etc, etc...
really, why selecting the mail client from the menu bar doesn't just fork-exec off a seperate mail client is well beyond me...
Kind of knowing how people work, I doubt very highly that Free Software programmers are making a whole lot of money. If someone can do whatever they want with the code after they buy it, the code can easily wind up on an ftp server. An then, who in their right mind is gonna pay for program X from me when it is legally and freely (libre and gratis) available over at site Y.
Most of the FSF advocates seem to overlook this basic fact: the main reason that Open Source and the FSF are so mainstream and well known right now is not becase the software is libre free, but gratis free. Take away the gratis portion, and I'll bet not nearly as much noise is created over Open Source and the FSF.
linux lost, oh well. just remember that while half you people are crying about linux, and the other half saying that Open source stuff doesn't work, there is the shining example of what OSS can do sitting there serving up cdrom.com. I've yet to see Microsoft pull that kind of throughput and uptime (at that cost). But it just won't be thought of as much, because the mood still seems to be "if it's not Linux, it's crap!", and evidently, the *BSD stuff just isn't as cool. Whatever.
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this. EXACTLY this.
Ok, the UP3 then. :)
yeah, but isn't her name "Sony"?
No, it doesnt.
A bunch of avowed leftists/marxists who have no specilized exptertise in climatology write the president a letter whining about greenhouse gases, and the president roundfiles the letter... good, I would have too. I don't know what was in it, but color me less than shocked if it came off as a bunch of leftist/environmentalist wanking...
Argumentum Ad Verecundiam, or the Appeal to False Authority, I belive it's called... a rather large example of such, I'd say.
And yes, the president decided not to waste our time with Kyoto... it was voted down 98-0 in the senate for cripes sakes... he couldn't have done anything with it anyways. It's called a reality check. Check out how treaties are ratified in this country sometime...
Really, I can't really see how people can belive that you can force others to do things against their will but still throw the word "freedom" in there. Egads. Evidently here on /., contradictory thoughts earn you a 5, Insightful rating.
Bullshit. The bid to remove inheritance taxes is a bid for people to keep more of their money. The fact that you think inheritance should be outlawed scares me. You are saying that people can't use their money in any way they want. If I have a couple million dollars, and want to will it to my kids, I should be able to do that, without the greedy government taking yet another bite out of that money (that has been taxed numerous times beforehand).
evidently, class envy is running at a pretty high level around here...
Nobody is guaranteed an easy life. Forcefully taking more from the people who can afford it to "redistribute" it is bullshit. No one else has a right to the money that another owns.
As for Brin's "rant", it just seems to be more liberalist crap. He's just perpetuating the liberal notion that it's the government's money, not yours, and even if it was yours, the government knows best how to handle it. Never mind that for inheritance taxes, they are taxing income and goods that have already been taxed. Never mind that the government should be in no way whatsoever entitled to get up to 50% of someone's equity and goods and such just because they died and wanted to pass it on to their offspring.
This makes the flat tax idea seem a great one. Bring on the flat tax, remove the marriage penalty and the inheritance tax (it bothers more than just the rich ya know, though some people wouldn't want you to know that), and dammit, tax EVERYONE equally (that's the way percentages work).
hey, who knows. Giving the government less of our money to work with might be the single most effective way at reducing government.
I care about a certain level of freedom (I wanna see source) as a bare minimum. after that, bigger concerns, such as "does it work"? and "how well does it work"? take precedence over the fact that the license isn't as open as some GNU zealot wants it to be.
Besides, what's wrong with helping the mysql team? pretty soon, mysql gets most of the features everyones been bitching about (including the replication, thanks Andover!), and it still blows the pants off other dbs in terms of raw speed, and suddenly, the recently much maligned mysql does kick some serious arse.
The web is basically a free-for-all. A freely accessible library useable by anyone with a web-broswer and a net connection. If you put data up, but want it visible by only a select few, take the time to manage your data that way. Otherwise, you can't bitch.
Besides, I can't see why people would bitch about it. They are still getting hits, and by others linking to them (deep or not), getting more exposure. This is what the web SHOULD be. It's sad that we may need the courts to decide that for us. In ticketmaster's case, I can't really believe that they are bitching because they still got the sale. Now misrepresentation is another matter entirely, but that is already illegal, web or no. That shouldn't be a determination of whether deep linking is legal or not.
And that still doesn't take care of the peons who are criticizing sun not for calling it "open source" (have they done that?), but for the license not being open enough...
Cripes, we should be happy that they are even giving us a chance to look at source code. If you don't like the terms of the license, then for god's sake don't bother making changes... It's not like 95% of the people bitching could even make a change, much less understand half of what they would be looking at anyways.
Whoopie. Who gives a shit about the front end webservers when the meat of the whole operation happens behind the scenes with the database transactions, which in this case run on Sun servers. (If they didn't they wouldn't blame Sun whenever their site goes down).
There is more to life than webserving, my ignorant friend.
Hehehehe...
Yeah, maybe they should. Because we all know how well Linux scales past 4 processors...
When you can get Linux running as well as solaris on a Starfire (Sun E-10000, 16 procs minimum), then go knocking on E-Bay's door. Until then, quit dreaming and start coding.
Besides which, all of E-bay's problems stem from the fact that they have idiot admins who don't install the patches sun gives them , then decide to not keep backups...
Uhh, Perl is evil. But, unlike Java, it has it's uses. This whole thing would be better if it were written in C (straght ANSI C, none of this object bullshit)
Yeah, it's real cool to see a local boy in the news...
"Look Everyone!!! We's got IDIOTS here in Green Bay!!!" (technically, it was Ashwaubenon, but they're just a suburb)
Idiots abound everywhere, but usually you try to not broadcast the fact.
It almost seems as Davis has reached McCarthy status, as where he lives is always mentioned in the same breath as who he is...
So get a friggen' clue next time.
You are kidding, right? How big do you think Lunar Prospector is for cripes sakes? It's akin to a fly running into you, less than that even...
not belong to the government of the United States
Says you. No one said it does. But NASA's existance doesn't preclude the existance of privatized space programs. This is not to say that privatized space programs would be good either, because they wouldn't.
The fact that no other country (sans Russia/Soviet Union) has much of a space program to speak of isn't NASA's fault for cripes sakes.
No, wait, let me guess... Maybe his clients don't want a domain ending in .us? Naw, can't be, sounds too plausible...
Good technical merit will get you just as far in the BSD camps as it will in the Linux camp. You just sound like someone who had one of their submissions turned down...
Probably because Netscape/Mozilla operates like 99% of the world: If it makes good common sense, for all that is blessed and holy, don't do it. I myself see absolutely no reason why all that BS has to be integrated into one giant, POS 13MB+ binary pig. The browser should just be everything needed to render pages (which includes a jvm, javascript interpreter, CSS interpreter, etc), but which does NOT include a mail client, a useless news client, an html editor, and instant messanger client, etc, etc...
really, why selecting the mail client from the menu bar doesn't just fork-exec off a seperate mail client is well beyond me...
Most of the FSF advocates seem to overlook this basic fact: the main reason that Open Source and the FSF are so mainstream and well known right now is not becase the software is libre free, but gratis free. Take away the gratis portion, and I'll bet not nearly as much noise is created over Open Source and the FSF.
linux lost, oh well. just remember that while half you people are crying about linux, and the other half saying that Open source stuff doesn't work, there is the shining example of what OSS can do sitting there serving up cdrom.com. I've yet to see Microsoft pull that kind of throughput and uptime (at that cost). But it just won't be thought of as much, because the mood still seems to be "if it's not Linux, it's crap!", and evidently, the *BSD stuff just isn't as cool. Whatever.