I have a Geforce2 GTS which uses the same drivers as the MX for X.
It was pretty simple for me to get running; just follow along with the FAQ and readmes. However; if you wish to, I think X 4.0.2 increased the 'nv' driver to include the Geforce2 family.
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
What OS was this computer running?
If it was windows, I'm pretty sure the school could take the sysadmin to court on grounds of gross negligence.::rim shot::
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
A group of kids are playing a new sport they just invented. They are proud of the game for its innovation and its depth, they know it is revolutionary. They have been playing and enjoying it for some time when another child walks catiously up to the group.
"Can I play?" He asks the group, smelling some popularity to be gained. He isn't interested in developing the game further or teaching more kids to play it for the sake of the game; no, he is interested in it because he thinks he can become popular by playing it. So by extending the game he can become even more popular. The group knows this, but realize that not everyone is interested in the game just for the game, so they let him play.
"Sure" One kids says, and the group agrees. They teach him the rules and how to play and soon they are all playing.
This happens for a bit until the game is huge and still growing. The originators of the game are estatic, when one of the non-originators gets hurt saying "I don't like how this game is played, I'm changing the rules"
"No!" The originators protest, but the complaintant obtains a adult supervisor.
"Now kids, if people get hurt you shouldn't play the game like that; here, change the rules to this" The adult says, wagging their finger.
The originators are saddened and protest in vain, "But its our game, if they don't like it, they don't have to play!"
The adult says "You have to listen to me!"
The originators are perplexed and ask why.
The adult responds "Because... you do!"
So trends like this continue, the game being changed by new comers who really have no right to change the game. And the complaintants changed the rules, and became popular, and they lived happily ever after...
So children, does this remind you of any current situation? Yes, you in the back... Yes! that's right, it reminds me of the internet, DVD technology, MP3 tech., etc. too.
That is how I percieve things, it is full of holes and isn't really a complete thought, and of course I could be wrong. But I can't understand how the Disney and other groups give themselves the right to change the rules! If you're getting ripped off or whatever, then don't play the game.
just my opinion,
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
That's exactly my point, you fool. They aren't in the cirriculum! They're a huge part of C++ and yet they aren't even mentioned in the course.
Apparently by knowing what the basics of OO programing are, I'm trying to make myself sound smart. Believe me, if I were trying to make myself look smart I wouldn't mention that I know the basics of a topic which 90% of the people here can talk volumes on.
Thank you for missing the entire point and generally being an ass.
js.skulski --
minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
Well, at least in my experience learning C++ was no different than learning BASIC.
We went through loops, if statements, etc. barely touched on classes or even structs. So why institute a strict language with out using any of its advantages?
I just graduated from HS last year so I have a pretty good view on things I think. This problem of pandering to the underachiever is(has) corrupted the whole system.
This system creates more underachievers and in turn will have to pander to them; it puts the whole system into a downward sprial. Something needs to change, methinks.
High school is not a challenge at all; I don't know anyone who was actually, truly challenged by the work material.
HS taught me nothing more than if I am going to learn anything, i'll have to teach myself.
just my opinion,
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
You're right, I did just take the A course.
Altough, as you've said, even in the longer, tougher(?) course, they skip major topics. --
minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
Last year, which was my senior year, I took the AP Computer Science course which was billed as the hardest course I'll ever take in highschool.
The first day of class we were introduced into to the wonderful world of C++. We were told how great is was, and how perfect Object Oriented Programming is.
Excited, I took this anticipation that was instilled in me and what general knowledge of OO languages I hadto the teacher after class.
I introduced myself, and asked when in the course would we learn about pointers.
Response "... Thats college level material"
(Pointers! Pointers college level? um...)
Okay, I then asked about Classes.
Response "MAYBE at the end if we have time."
Discouraged, I asked if we would be at least doing memory management with new and delete.
Response: "Nope, college level"
Now, admittedly it was a novice level course; but whats the point of teaching us OO when they don't even bother to teach us to use classes.
(We did end up looking at them for about a day before the exam)
I think a problem that these intro to CS classes have is that they pander to harshly to the 'non-nerd'. They try to get Jonny QuarterBack to take the course.
Now it might just happen that Jonny QB is an excellent programmer and has a great interest in Design Patterns or something; but most likely he doesn't.
There are of course, exceptions; but anyone who has any real interest in programming, already has experience and/or has enough intelligence to learn a lot more in these classes.
The Jonny QBs and Stacy Makeups in my class were the ones who kept us on for loops for two weeks and are the the peopel who drop out of the class in college.
I believe this is a huge problem with Intro classes in any subject, but especially CS where most of its students already have experience with the subject.
just my opinion,
js.skulski
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
(sorry for the broken post)
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I don't think it is much of a stretch to say that you are the most stupid, ignorant person on these boards.
shouldn't you be wanting your MTV?
You completely lack tact, wit, and character. Your profanities reflect your empty head and your double digit I.Q.
Perhaps you should stop talking now.
Well, in addition to technical knowhow, a good programmer needs an active imagination. In my highschool Computer Science AP class(C++), the normal routine was to teach us something painfully easy, then to give us pages of notes, then to assign us a project that was akin to "Hello,World" or "ATMmachine" for whatever we just taught. Well I used to complain about these types of projects all the time, and eventually I got my teacher to do a project my way. My way was that he would teach for a day, give us a lot of notes on it(to be read our selves), and then the project would be "Demonstrate what we just learned". So instead of him saying use a matrix and make a Seat Reservation Program, he would teach us matrices, and then just let us go nuts. Unfortunetly this failed completely, because nobody read the documentation and didn't know what to do. However, with students who actually like to use computers, or a *tad* more direction i think this could work. It would give the student a chance to use their imagination. minusthink.
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I have a Geforce2 GTS which uses the same drivers as the MX for X. It was pretty simple for me to get running; just follow along with the FAQ and readmes. However; if you wish to, I think X 4.0.2 increased the 'nv' driver to include the Geforce2 family. minus
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
What OS was this computer running? If it was windows, I'm pretty sure the school could take the sysadmin to court on grounds of gross negligence. ::rim shot::
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
A group of kids are playing a new sport they just invented. They are proud of the game for its innovation and its depth, they know it is revolutionary. They have been playing and enjoying it for some time when another child walks catiously up to the group.
"Can I play?" He asks the group, smelling some popularity to be gained. He isn't interested in developing the game further or teaching more kids to play it for the sake of the game; no, he is interested in it because he thinks he can become popular by playing it. So by extending the game he can become even more popular. The group knows this, but realize that not everyone is interested in the game just for the game, so they let him play.
"Sure" One kids says, and the group agrees. They teach him the rules and how to play and soon they are all playing.
This happens for a bit until the game is huge and still growing. The originators of the game are estatic, when one of the non-originators gets hurt saying "I don't like how this game is played, I'm changing the rules"
"No!" The originators protest, but the complaintant obtains a adult supervisor.
"Now kids, if people get hurt you shouldn't play the game like that; here, change the rules to this" The adult says, wagging their finger.
The originators are saddened and protest in vain, "But its our game, if they don't like it, they don't have to play!"
The adult says "You have to listen to me!"
The originators are perplexed and ask why.
The adult responds "Because... you do!"
So trends like this continue, the game being changed by new comers who really have no right to change the game. And the complaintants changed the rules, and became popular, and they lived happily ever after...
So children, does this remind you of any current situation? Yes, you in the back... Yes! that's right, it reminds me of the internet, DVD technology, MP3 tech., etc. too.
That is how I percieve things, it is full of holes and isn't really a complete thought, and of course I could be wrong. But I can't understand how the Disney and other groups give themselves the right to change the rules! If you're getting ripped off or whatever, then don't play the game.
just my opinion,
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
You're probably right; they won't want the kids using just java and javac. I find this ironic:
They're trying to teach kids Object Oriented programming and yet are reluctant to have them use commandline interface. It just seems odd, that's all.
minusthink.
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
That's exactly my point, you fool. They aren't in the cirriculum! They're a huge part of C++ and yet they aren't even mentioned in the course. Apparently by knowing what the basics of OO programing are, I'm trying to make myself sound smart. Believe me, if I were trying to make myself look smart I wouldn't mention that I know the basics of a topic which 90% of the people here can talk volumes on. Thank you for missing the entire point and generally being an ass. js.skulski
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
Well, at least in my experience learning C++ was no different than learning BASIC. We went through loops, if statements, etc. barely touched on classes or even structs. So why institute a strict language with out using any of its advantages? I just graduated from HS last year so I have a pretty good view on things I think. This problem of pandering to the underachiever is(has) corrupted the whole system. This system creates more underachievers and in turn will have to pander to them; it puts the whole system into a downward sprial. Something needs to change, methinks. High school is not a challenge at all; I don't know anyone who was actually, truly challenged by the work material. HS taught me nothing more than if I am going to learn anything, i'll have to teach myself. just my opinion, js.skulski
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
You're right, I did just take the A course. Altough, as you've said, even in the longer, tougher(?) course, they skip major topics.
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
Last year, which was my senior year, I took the AP Computer Science course which was billed as the hardest course I'll ever take in highschool.
The first day of class we were introduced into to the wonderful world of C++. We were told how great is was, and how perfect Object Oriented Programming is.
Excited, I took this anticipation that was instilled in me and what general knowledge of OO languages I hadto the teacher after class.
I introduced myself, and asked when in the course would we learn about pointers.
Response "... Thats college level material"
(Pointers! Pointers college level? um...)
Okay, I then asked about Classes.
Response "MAYBE at the end if we have time."
Discouraged, I asked if we would be at least doing memory management with new and delete.
Response: "Nope, college level"
Now, admittedly it was a novice level course; but whats the point of teaching us OO when they don't even bother to teach us to use classes.
(We did end up looking at them for about a day before the exam)
I think a problem that these intro to CS classes have is that they pander to harshly to the 'non-nerd'. They try to get Jonny QuarterBack to take the course.
Now it might just happen that Jonny QB is an excellent programmer and has a great interest in Design Patterns or something; but most likely he doesn't.
There are of course, exceptions; but anyone who has any real interest in programming, already has experience and/or has enough intelligence to learn a lot more in these classes.
The Jonny QBs and Stacy Makeups in my class were the ones who kept us on for loops for two weeks and are the the peopel who drop out of the class in college.
I believe this is a huge problem with Intro classes in any subject, but especially CS where most of its students already have experience with the subject.
just my opinion,
js.skulski
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minusthink [Code poet or super hero? (you decide)]
the egg.
(sorry for the broken post) -- I don't think it is much of a stretch to say that you are the most stupid, ignorant person on these boards. shouldn't you be wanting your MTV? You completely lack tact, wit, and character. Your profanities reflect your empty head and your double digit I.Q. Perhaps you should stop talking now.
Congratulations cybrog_monkey --
Well, in addition to technical knowhow, a good programmer needs an active imagination. In my highschool Computer Science AP class(C++), the normal routine was to teach us something painfully easy, then to give us pages of notes, then to assign us a project that was akin to "Hello,World" or "ATMmachine" for whatever we just taught. Well I used to complain about these types of projects all the time, and eventually I got my teacher to do a project my way. My way was that he would teach for a day, give us a lot of notes on it(to be read our selves), and then the project would be "Demonstrate what we just learned". So instead of him saying use a matrix and make a Seat Reservation Program, he would teach us matrices, and then just let us go nuts. Unfortunetly this failed completely, because nobody read the documentation and didn't know what to do. However, with students who actually like to use computers, or a *tad* more direction i think this could work. It would give the student a chance to use their imagination. minusthink.