WTF!!?? How can you blame someone for what his father did? What possible bearng does that have at all to his situation? Do you want to be implicated for any of your parents (or grandparents problems)? Come on, face it you just hate the fact that he might win and you can't find anything legitamate to accuse him of. He isn't satan incarnate and that conflicts with your "republicans are evil" propiganda. You are just beside yourselves trying to figure out how this can be. Maybe his character is indeed better and maybe he would do a better job for the american people. But no that couldn't possibly be true. You couldn't actually vote for the best person for the job, could you? You have to stick to your aligience to the Nazi's and are now stuck trying to come up with excuses for why you refuse to vote for the right man for the job.
How many years ago was that again? He has already admited to a drinking problem, A problem which he has over come and no longer has. He plead guilty and paid his debt to society. Much less than I can say for the current president who has sold us out to the Chineese and bombs pharmicutical factories when he is getting charged with sexual assault or something trivial as that. You liberals just don't get it, do you. There is a BIG difference between what someone has done in the past and some one who is currently a snake and a traitor (AL GORE AND SLICK WILLIE)
Well, this sounds adequatley alarmist so as to have us all worrying about making sure that "they" pay thier "fair share". Your figures sound suspiciously like the same ones used by the redistribution of wealth folks. To all of y'all, where do you get your figures (by the way, don't just quote another article which has an agenda like you do. I wanna see an unbiased account of this stuff. I keep hearing politicians and others from "the left" spouting on about this, but my personal experiance doesn't match up with it. I'm a guy who had to drop out of high school and work full time at age 15 so I could help my mom and dad pay for bills. I went without very nice clothes and we ate fairly cheap food. Meanwhile I saw (and knew) people wo were on welfare eating steak for supper and dressing in $50 bluejeans etc. Also, did I neglect to mention that the tax buren never let off during this time? Now that I am finally out of the hole and we've recovered from these kind of calamities, and have gotten oursleves out of debt. We are still barely in middle class. I make $30k My dad just got raise and now makes $40k. My dad and I both are very active in our chrch and give tithe (10%) to the church. On top of that I use my vacation time to go down to Honduras to help build homes for people and I have brought a bunch of computers to an elementry school down there and have set them up with Spanish OS and things like that. I'm a computer hardware technician and I'm not comlaining about my life or trying to toot my horn but I'm tired of the government telling me that I'm not pulling my fair share when I do more per dollar for others than they ever do. I'm tired of seeing 40% of my money going to a bunch of politicians so they can have thier drugs and prostitutes when I could do so much more with it for others. It is a fact that americans have way too much money, even the poor ones. We see this by looking at any dumpster outside of any restaraunt. It is full of food that we just throw away. I don't begrudge rich people from keeping thier money. The true fact is that "old money " isn't the richest bracket anymore. The richest ones are people who have worked hard (or maybe got really lucky) and have earned thier money themselves. Class envy only stifles progress. If I were to make a million dollars, I would want to be the one who says where it goes. Not some pencil carrying beurocrat that thinks he can do a better job of "redistribution" . The top money holders are also the ones who give our economy a big boost when they invest in companies (thats where your job comes from). If there is no incentive to inves because someone will just take al your earnings from you, then they will stop investing and just sit on it. Then what will we all do? Why must we discourage hard work (and smart work) in this country. Why is it wrong to want to keep what you earn? The president wants a line item veto on congressional bills, I want one on my tax form. on top of the fact that they are forcibly extracting monies from me, they are doing things with it that I am vehemetly opposed to. Whether you agree with my position or not, (in my case I don't like my money going to free abortions for "low income households") you must must admit that there is something wrong with taking money from people to do things that you absolutely are opposed to. I support our military, for example, but I don't think that a pacifist should be forced to help support something which he thinks is morally wrong. So give the people a real tax cut and give us an INDIVIDUAL voice in where our taxes go, the agencies who don't get enough funding because no one wants them will be shut down and should be if that many people don't want them funded. I know , big off topic rant , but I was responding to all these other posts.
People don't seem to understand that it ISN'T cheaper to recycle. In fact it sometimes costs twice or more what it does to remove it from the ground or whatever process is used to extract it from it's natural state. For example, hasn't anyone noticed that recycling depots don't pay for scrap anymore? Meanwhile they all seem to be going out of business. The reason for this is there is too much recycling (yes people are being good little socialy responsible recyclers) going on. The recyclers get stuck with tons of neatly separated glass, aluminum, steele, and TONS of newspapers and magazines that no one will buy from them because it just isn't economicaly feasable. Don't you think that if it indeed was more economical to recycle that the companies would be fight over who gets the old junk back? You'd see buy back programs and everything. I've worked for Waste Management for a while and this is the problem they keep facing. They are told to provide recycling service to people so they can feel good about themselves by recycling. All the while they were assured that when the infrastructure was in place that the recycling business would pay off. The began separating trash picked up on big conveyor belts and built special trucks to gather recyclable products for reuse. The infrastructure is now in place and there is a huge mass of neatly separated recyclable stuff just waiting for someone to want it. Tremendous expense has gone into creating this infrastructure and these nicely separated piles of recyclable goods, but the payoff never came. Waste Mangement companies are folding every where because thaey can't do anything with these huge masses of stuff that they can't get rid of. Now that it has been separated, they aren't allowed to just throw it back into the landfills (EPA would be slitting throats over that) and no one will even take it for free. This has caused some companies to file bankruptcy and have the government take their land fills and stuff and buy back thier garbage collecting trucks (not thier recycling trucks) and start all over again. Only this time they don't recycle, they just pick up for land fill. You see, until it actually becomes cheaper to recycle, people won't be able to. When it does get cheaper, you won't need to force people (or companies) to recycle or use recycled materials.
Yes, He does understand the social contract. He's just not a communist who wishes to destroy business and force others to be "socialy responsible" at gunpoint like Stalin or Hitler did. This is the end to the means of touchy feely bunny rabbit slogans like "social contract". Also, what about all the companies who went out of business and can't be billed for thier polutin' ways? Do the rest of the companies have to foot that bill too? If you currently own something harmfull to the environment, YOU are responsible for it's safe disposal when you are finnished with it!!!!!
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WTF!!?? How can you blame someone for what his father did? What possible bearng does that have at all to his situation? Do you want to be implicated for any of your parents (or grandparents problems)? Come on, face it you just hate the fact that he might win and you can't find anything legitamate to accuse him of. He isn't satan incarnate and that conflicts with your "republicans are evil" propiganda. You are just beside yourselves trying to figure out how this can be. Maybe his character is indeed better and maybe he would do a better job for the american people. But no that couldn't possibly be true. You couldn't actually vote for the best person for the job, could you? You have to stick to your aligience to the Nazi's and are now stuck trying to come up with excuses for why you refuse to vote for the right man for the job.
How many years ago was that again? He has already admited to a drinking problem, A problem which he has over come and no longer has. He plead guilty and paid his debt to society. Much less than I can say for the current president who has sold us out to the Chineese and bombs pharmicutical factories when he is getting charged with sexual assault or something trivial as that. You liberals just don't get it, do you. There is a BIG difference between what someone has done in the past and some one who is currently a snake and a traitor (AL GORE AND SLICK WILLIE)
Well, this sounds adequatley alarmist so as to have us all worrying about making sure that "they" pay thier "fair share". Your figures sound suspiciously like the same ones used by the redistribution of wealth folks. To all of y'all, where do you get your figures (by the way, don't just quote another article which has an agenda like you do. I wanna see an unbiased account of this stuff. I keep hearing politicians and others from "the left" spouting on about this, but my personal experiance doesn't match up with it. I'm a guy who had to drop out of high school and work full time at age 15 so I could help my mom and dad pay for bills. I went without very nice clothes and we ate fairly cheap food. Meanwhile I saw (and knew) people wo were on welfare eating steak for supper and dressing in $50 bluejeans etc. Also, did I neglect to mention that the tax buren never let off during this time? Now that I am finally out of the hole and we've recovered from these kind of calamities, and have gotten oursleves out of debt. We are still barely in middle class. I make $30k My dad just got raise and now makes $40k. My dad and I both are very active in our chrch and give tithe (10%) to the church. On top of that I use my vacation time to go down to Honduras to help build homes for people and I have brought a bunch of computers to an elementry school down there and have set them up with Spanish OS and things like that. I'm a computer hardware technician and I'm not comlaining about my life or trying to toot my horn but I'm tired of the government telling me that I'm not pulling my fair share when I do more per dollar for others than they ever do. I'm tired of seeing 40% of my money going to a bunch of politicians so they can have thier drugs and prostitutes when I could do so much more with it for others. It is a fact that americans have way too much money, even the poor ones. We see this by looking at any dumpster outside of any restaraunt. It is full of food that we just throw away. I don't begrudge rich people from keeping thier money. The true fact is that "old money " isn't the richest bracket anymore. The richest ones are people who have worked hard (or maybe got really lucky) and have earned thier money themselves. Class envy only stifles progress. If I were to make a million dollars, I would want to be the one who says where it goes. Not some pencil carrying beurocrat that thinks he can do a better job of "redistribution" . The top money holders are also the ones who give our economy a big boost when they invest in companies (thats where your job comes from). If there is no incentive to inves because someone will just take al your earnings from you, then they will stop investing and just sit on it. Then what will we all do? Why must we discourage hard work (and smart work) in this country. Why is it wrong to want to keep what you earn? The president wants a line item veto on congressional bills, I want one on my tax form. on top of the fact that they are forcibly extracting monies from me, they are doing things with it that I am vehemetly opposed to. Whether you agree with my position or not, (in my case I don't like my money going to free abortions for "low income households") you must must admit that there is something wrong with taking money from people to do things that you absolutely are opposed to. I support our military, for example, but I don't think that a pacifist should be forced to help support something which he thinks is morally wrong. So give the people a real tax cut and give us an INDIVIDUAL voice in where our taxes go, the agencies who don't get enough funding because no one wants them will be shut down and should be if that many people don't want them funded. I know , big off topic rant , but I was responding to all these other posts.
People don't seem to understand that it ISN'T cheaper to recycle. In fact it sometimes costs twice or more what it does to remove it from the ground or whatever process is used to extract it from it's natural state. For example, hasn't anyone noticed that recycling depots don't pay for scrap anymore? Meanwhile they all seem to be going out of business. The reason for this is there is too much recycling (yes people are being good little socialy responsible recyclers) going on. The recyclers get stuck with tons of neatly separated glass, aluminum, steele, and TONS of newspapers and magazines that no one will buy from them because it just isn't economicaly feasable. Don't you think that if it indeed was more economical to recycle that the companies would be fight over who gets the old junk back? You'd see buy back programs and everything. I've worked for Waste Management for a while and this is the problem they keep facing. They are told to provide recycling service to people so they can feel good about themselves by recycling. All the while they were assured that when the infrastructure was in place that the recycling business would pay off. The began separating trash picked up on big conveyor belts and built special trucks to gather recyclable products for reuse. The infrastructure is now in place and there is a huge mass of neatly separated recyclable stuff just waiting for someone to want it. Tremendous expense has gone into creating this infrastructure and these nicely separated piles of recyclable goods, but the payoff never came. Waste Mangement companies are folding every where because thaey can't do anything with these huge masses of stuff that they can't get rid of. Now that it has been separated, they aren't allowed to just throw it back into the landfills (EPA would be slitting throats over that) and no one will even take it for free. This has caused some companies to file bankruptcy and have the government take their land fills and stuff and buy back thier garbage collecting trucks (not thier recycling trucks) and start all over again. Only this time they don't recycle, they just pick up for land fill. You see, until it actually becomes cheaper to recycle, people won't be able to. When it does get cheaper, you won't need to force people (or companies) to recycle or use recycled materials.
Yes, He does understand the social contract. He's just not a communist who wishes to destroy business and force others to be "socialy responsible" at gunpoint like Stalin or Hitler did. This is the end to the means of touchy feely bunny rabbit slogans like "social contract". Also, what about all the companies who went out of business and can't be billed for thier polutin' ways? Do the rest of the companies have to foot that bill too? If you currently own something harmfull to the environment, YOU are responsible for it's safe disposal when you are finnished with it!!!!!