I see what you are getting at, but is it possible that by being blown away on the first viewing, your enjoyment is increased on your subsequently viewing of the movies? Kind of like how a song can bring about an emotional response that may be based on what you were doing or how you were feeling the first time you heard it.
Definitely possible, but it honestly doesn't really seem to bother me anymore. I can see how it would be appealing to people to discover things on their own, and I'm not immune to it myself; a more recent example being The Departed, which, if you haven't seen yet, has a scene towards the end of the film in an elevator that I did not see coming at all. It shocked me for sure, but would my enjoyment level have been reduced if I knew it was coming? I'lI never know, but I don't think so.
I may be the exception to the rule, anyway, as I will watch or read the things multiple times as a rule, unless it's so horrible that getting through that initial exposure was too traumatic in itself. For instance, I've probably read Dune about 15 freaking times in my life, and that never gets old, despite the fact that I can quote passages pretty much on demand (ditto for Star Trek: The Next Generation dialog, outside of season one that is).
Honestly, you've piqued my interest now. Typically I don't really try to guard myself against spoilers but maybe I will with a few movies I'm waiting for this fall and winter...
So, if I, like, say like every, umm, like every few words, does that make it, like, acceptable, and best to be, like, ignored?
Yeah, because otherwise you're that one insufferable ass in the group that irritates everyone because they're going out of their way to correct those around them. Even if they think they're helping, they're not, because it just irritates the piss out of everyone else. The end result isn't someone that modifies their speech to be more correct, it's someone that thinks you're an asshole, especially when it comes to nitpicky things like our current situation where there was no real confusion or ambiguity in the meaning of what was being said. In these cases, the error is brought up just to point it out and (this is purely conjectural on my part) so that person can feel better about themselves for having done so, or smarter, or superior perhaps. The fact that you knew what I meant despite my improper use of a scientific term illustrates my point clearly in my opinion.
Keep fighting the good fight and crusading against improper use of scientific terms by laypeople in non-scientific situations when it really doesn't matter, though. Just don't expect to get much respect doing it. Have a great day.
Oh come on, everyone knows that a "friendship" based on Farmville is just as deep and meaningful as a traditional friendship. None of my "real" friends cared when I got the Golden Tractor...
And if I might suggest, next time you see someone say something that bothers you on the internet, try and ignore it. Being nitpicky over a common figure of speech makes you kinda look like a dick. I assure you that everyone knew what I meant, as did you, regardless of your background, and 95% of the people in the world wouldn't care. This isn't a science journal and it doesn't really matter, does it?
Thanks for taking the time to log in and format that rant and everything though.
(HB Gary's work on rootkits, for instance, was not exactly "defensive" in nature...)
And the astroturfing software, too, that gave me the warm and fuzzies:
It was also revealed that HBGary Federal was contracted by the U.S. government to develop astroturfing software which could create an "army" of multiple fake social media profiles to manipulate and sway public opinion on controversial issues. This software could also scan for people with points of view the powers-that-be didn't like and then have the "fake" profiles attempt to discredit those "real" people.
Board rooms now regularly discuss corporate vulnerabilities and mitigation strategies. In turn, they are spending more on security as a result of these threats. That is a good thing right? Maybe.
Maybe?? Did this guy not work for a fucking security firm? Now it's "maybe" a good thing they are spending more on security?
Is he trolling himself now?
Funny how the conversation always comes around to it being all because of those damn dirty hackers. You don't see anyone in the mainstream media saying "Hey, Sony, maybe you shouldn't have been storing customer info in plaintext on your poorly secured servers?" Anonymous gets a hold of that, and they embarrass people. Eastern European or Chinese hacker groups get a hold of it, we're in a far worse position.
We can sit here and pray for a day when there won't be hackers, it'll never happen, but whatever. But what we can't do is just ignore the woefully inadequate security measures being used in these companies that, frankly, can afford a lot better. They refuse to let us use these services without every piece of information about us they can get short of a DNA sample, throw said info on an open server with no protection, and then blame everyone else when they get hacked and lose customer data.
This is why customer data should be regulated the same as medical data. If our medical records were stored like our credit card numbers are on so many sites, people would have a shit fit. It's time to start holding these companies liable for gross negligence when they can't maintain the security of our data within reason.
Twists do not have to be silly. There have be a couple of movies that had twists that caused me to immediately restart the film and watch it again to look at it in a whole new light. In those cases, knowing the ending would have completely ruined the amazement.
I agree in theory, movies I saw before the rise of the internet and the spoiler fest (like, Fight Club for instance, or The Usual Suspects), I remember being blown away by the ending the first time I saw them. Books are the same way for the most part, although I generally don't read the genres with a lot of twists and turns, I'm more of a sci-fi/fantasy buff where the awe is generally in the depth of the universe being presented and how vivid it is.
But knowing the spoiler doesn't make those movies any less enjoyable to me after the fact. I've seen Fight Club at least 4 times, Usual Suspects a dozen at least (love that movie!)...but I still enjoy watching them. I guess the important factor is whether or not the person was really looking forward to the mystery. Someone told me what happened in Captain America and I didn't give a crap at all. But if someone were to spoil something I actually really, really cared about I suppose I'd be irritated.
The argument is that you must do everything in your power to prevent the accident, regardless of who was supposed to yield the right-of-way. It's very frustrating.
Don't you typically do everything in your power to prevent an accident anyway? When I see someone coming towards an intersection perpendicular to me at a high rate of speed that doesn't look like they're slowing down, I could care less what color the light is, I'm not going to cross his path until I'm sure he's stopping. When someone ignores a stop sign, even if I was waiting at the intersection first, I'm gonna let them continue, not just head out into the intersection, too, and say "I had the right of way!!!!!"
I can certainly understand being frustrated by the shitty drivers that do that crap, and I am, too, believe me...but I'd rather let them go on their way and be shitty drivers elsewhere then to push the issue and play the "right of way" game. When I was 16 years old and I thought I was invincible and didn't give a damn about insurance since I wasn't paying for it, maybe yeah, I would have played chicken with the other guy because "fuck him"....but I'm a grown up now. The 16 year old's waiting behind me at a light may get pissed that the person in front of them didn't floor it the second the light turned green, but after watching people get T-boned at lights over 20 years of driving, I give it a second to make sure the interesection is clear (and going to remain that way). Better safe than sorry.
If it's being mined at all, it's being looked at. Not only that, but pesky things like warrants don't mean shit anymore, the government has so many loopholes in things like the Patriot Act and other laws coming down the pipe that they can pretty much make up any old reason they want and take your data.
The government has more power than it should in that area already. I'm not one of those "the government is out to get me!" nuts out there or anything, but recent developments in the way of personal freedom in this country are scary and contrary to it's ideals. While it may indeed be utilized for good in the way of finding missing children, I feel that it's potential for abuse is so high that it is too great a risk to give anyone that level of access.
Honestly, it's probably a moot point anyway because odds are there's some NSA group monitoring this shit regardless. All they're trying to do is legitimize it so they can start locking people up based on the evidence they're already looking at.
You gonna be doing photo editing in the field with a tablet? Come on...
Nowadays, a computer capable of storing the enormous amounts of data generated by shooting in RAW at 20MP, as well as running CS5, Lightroom, and a host of other photo apps is pretty much a necessity for any serious photographer. My mother generates between 80-100 GB of data a day on a typical shoot. Granted, she's a professional photographer, so she's probably at the higher end of the spectrum, but still, once you get into the SLRs you've moved beyond the typical needs of someone taking pictures with their phone and crap.
For the hobbyist a tablet is probably fine, but this person doesn't seem like a hobbyist.
Wow, I need to move to your neighborhood. The west side where I'm at near the mall, according to the techs (off the record, of course) this node is "over-saturated" or something, and it's a problem that Charter knows about, but it's going to cost them quite a bit to upgrade the equipment to handle the demand so they're dragging their feet.
Basically, according to the tech (they've been known to talk out of their ass, too, so who knows, not like you'll get a straight answer from anybody, really) it's kinda like the recall scenario described by Ed Norton in Fight Club...until it costs Charter more in service calls due to problems with internet speeds and connectivity then it will to upgrade their equipment, they're not upgrading, so I'm pretty much screwed until Netflix stops working for a ton of people, more or less.
I would love it if we got a real study, one with some depth, where they went around and tested every ISP during peak hours at several locations in their service area. I have a feeling that if they did that we'd see a much different story than this quasi-fluff piece...
Why can Internet service providers get away with crap like this?
Here in America we have this little thing called "campaign contributions"...plus, you know, all these corporations are "people" so their speech is protected.
I'm told I get 21 meg (mbps, megabits per second, kinda figured that was understood, since that's the units everyone uses, including Charter). Never in my life, hardlined, have I gotten that speed, on multiple speed tests, including Charter's own. Not even the burst speeds get close.
The speed tests are also in units of megabits per second. I know the difference between a bit and byte.
I'd like to know where they tested Charter at. If you're in a relatively sparse area they're great, but here in Madison, WI, they fucking suck. I have "21 meg" or some shit and at most I pull down between 2 and 5. Between the hours of 5 and 7 or 8 o'clock in the evening, it's damn near unusable because everybody in the city comes home and starts streaming Hulu and Netflix and I'll be lucky to pull down 700k, and the latency spikes like you wouldn't believe. The techs themselves tell me never to expect to hit the speeds I'm told I'll get, because that's not "real-world use."
So if I'm never going to get that speed in practical application, why again are they allowed to advertise said speed?
Oh, you better fucking believe it. Let's see how many defective chips get replaced now...better keep your lawyer in the loop next time you build a machine.
Oh, they have some here, too, but the thing is nobody freaking uses them because they don't feel like climbing a flight of stairs. So instead they just say "screw traffic" and walk across the street, knowing that the 10,000 people crossing with them means that traffic ain't moving no matter what color the light is or if the WALK sign is illuminated or not.
Also note that it HASN'T been banned as a disease vector control, but has been restricted so it's not sprayed around like crazy as it was in the 1950s.
My mom told me when she was young they used to drive up and down the streets spraying a fog of that crap and all the kids used to run behind the truck and play in the fog...I can't even imagine what kind of damage it did to their bodies. It can't have been good, at any rate. I mean, we're not talking about calcium here...
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My God, it's full of shit!
Your bike has a window?
I see what you are getting at, but is it possible that by being blown away on the first viewing, your enjoyment is increased on your subsequently viewing of the movies? Kind of like how a song can bring about an emotional response that may be based on what you were doing or how you were feeling the first time you heard it.
Definitely possible, but it honestly doesn't really seem to bother me anymore. I can see how it would be appealing to people to discover things on their own, and I'm not immune to it myself; a more recent example being The Departed, which, if you haven't seen yet, has a scene towards the end of the film in an elevator that I did not see coming at all. It shocked me for sure, but would my enjoyment level have been reduced if I knew it was coming? I'lI never know, but I don't think so.
I may be the exception to the rule, anyway, as I will watch or read the things multiple times as a rule, unless it's so horrible that getting through that initial exposure was too traumatic in itself. For instance, I've probably read Dune about 15 freaking times in my life, and that never gets old, despite the fact that I can quote passages pretty much on demand (ditto for Star Trek: The Next Generation dialog, outside of season one that is).
Honestly, you've piqued my interest now. Typically I don't really try to guard myself against spoilers but maybe I will with a few movies I'm waiting for this fall and winter...
Wait, so you're telling me the people that I play Mafia Wars with aren't really friends?!?!!
So, if I, like, say like every, umm, like every few words, does that make it, like, acceptable, and best to be, like, ignored?
Yeah, because otherwise you're that one insufferable ass in the group that irritates everyone because they're going out of their way to correct those around them. Even if they think they're helping, they're not, because it just irritates the piss out of everyone else. The end result isn't someone that modifies their speech to be more correct, it's someone that thinks you're an asshole, especially when it comes to nitpicky things like our current situation where there was no real confusion or ambiguity in the meaning of what was being said. In these cases, the error is brought up just to point it out and (this is purely conjectural on my part) so that person can feel better about themselves for having done so, or smarter, or superior perhaps. The fact that you knew what I meant despite my improper use of a scientific term illustrates my point clearly in my opinion.
Keep fighting the good fight and crusading against improper use of scientific terms by laypeople in non-scientific situations when it really doesn't matter, though. Just don't expect to get much respect doing it. Have a great day.
It was bound to happen eventually.
Oh come on, everyone knows that a "friendship" based on Farmville is just as deep and meaningful as a traditional friendship. None of my "real" friends cared when I got the Golden Tractor...
And if I might suggest, next time you see someone say something that bothers you on the internet, try and ignore it. Being nitpicky over a common figure of speech makes you kinda look like a dick. I assure you that everyone knew what I meant, as did you, regardless of your background, and 95% of the people in the world wouldn't care. This isn't a science journal and it doesn't really matter, does it?
Thanks for taking the time to log in and format that rant and everything though.
(HB Gary's work on rootkits, for instance, was not exactly "defensive" in nature...)
And the astroturfing software, too, that gave me the warm and fuzzies:
It was also revealed that HBGary Federal was contracted by the U.S. government to develop astroturfing software which could create an "army" of multiple fake social media profiles to manipulate and sway public opinion on controversial issues. This software could also scan for people with points of view the powers-that-be didn't like and then have the "fake" profiles attempt to discredit those "real" people.
source
Yeah, he's one of the "good guys" alright. Give me a fucking break.
Board rooms now regularly discuss corporate vulnerabilities and mitigation strategies. In turn, they are spending more on security as a result of these threats. That is a good thing right? Maybe.
Maybe?? Did this guy not work for a fucking security firm? Now it's "maybe" a good thing they are spending more on security?
Is he trolling himself now?
Funny how the conversation always comes around to it being all because of those damn dirty hackers. You don't see anyone in the mainstream media saying "Hey, Sony, maybe you shouldn't have been storing customer info in plaintext on your poorly secured servers?" Anonymous gets a hold of that, and they embarrass people. Eastern European or Chinese hacker groups get a hold of it, we're in a far worse position.
We can sit here and pray for a day when there won't be hackers, it'll never happen, but whatever. But what we can't do is just ignore the woefully inadequate security measures being used in these companies that, frankly, can afford a lot better. They refuse to let us use these services without every piece of information about us they can get short of a DNA sample, throw said info on an open server with no protection, and then blame everyone else when they get hacked and lose customer data.
This is why customer data should be regulated the same as medical data. If our medical records were stored like our credit card numbers are on so many sites, people would have a shit fit. It's time to start holding these companies liable for gross negligence when they can't maintain the security of our data within reason.
Twists do not have to be silly. There have be a couple of movies that had twists that caused me to immediately restart the film and watch it again to look at it in a whole new light. In those cases, knowing the ending would have completely ruined the amazement.
I agree in theory, movies I saw before the rise of the internet and the spoiler fest (like, Fight Club for instance, or The Usual Suspects), I remember being blown away by the ending the first time I saw them. Books are the same way for the most part, although I generally don't read the genres with a lot of twists and turns, I'm more of a sci-fi/fantasy buff where the awe is generally in the depth of the universe being presented and how vivid it is.
But knowing the spoiler doesn't make those movies any less enjoyable to me after the fact. I've seen Fight Club at least 4 times, Usual Suspects a dozen at least (love that movie!)...but I still enjoy watching them. I guess the important factor is whether or not the person was really looking forward to the mystery. Someone told me what happened in Captain America and I didn't give a crap at all. But if someone were to spoil something I actually really, really cared about I suppose I'd be irritated.
Must have been a face dancer...
The calculator says I would need 29 beers in 2 hours to get up to 0.45
Sounds like the kinda parties I used to go to when I was in school....
The argument is that you must do everything in your power to prevent the accident, regardless of who was supposed to yield the right-of-way. It's very frustrating.
Don't you typically do everything in your power to prevent an accident anyway? When I see someone coming towards an intersection perpendicular to me at a high rate of speed that doesn't look like they're slowing down, I could care less what color the light is, I'm not going to cross his path until I'm sure he's stopping. When someone ignores a stop sign, even if I was waiting at the intersection first, I'm gonna let them continue, not just head out into the intersection, too, and say "I had the right of way!!!!!"
I can certainly understand being frustrated by the shitty drivers that do that crap, and I am, too, believe me...but I'd rather let them go on their way and be shitty drivers elsewhere then to push the issue and play the "right of way" game. When I was 16 years old and I thought I was invincible and didn't give a damn about insurance since I wasn't paying for it, maybe yeah, I would have played chicken with the other guy because "fuck him"....but I'm a grown up now. The 16 year old's waiting behind me at a light may get pissed that the person in front of them didn't floor it the second the light turned green, but after watching people get T-boned at lights over 20 years of driving, I give it a second to make sure the interesection is clear (and going to remain that way). Better safe than sorry.
If it's being mined at all, it's being looked at. Not only that, but pesky things like warrants don't mean shit anymore, the government has so many loopholes in things like the Patriot Act and other laws coming down the pipe that they can pretty much make up any old reason they want and take your data.
The government has more power than it should in that area already. I'm not one of those "the government is out to get me!" nuts out there or anything, but recent developments in the way of personal freedom in this country are scary and contrary to it's ideals. While it may indeed be utilized for good in the way of finding missing children, I feel that it's potential for abuse is so high that it is too great a risk to give anyone that level of access.
Honestly, it's probably a moot point anyway because odds are there's some NSA group monitoring this shit regardless. All they're trying to do is legitimize it so they can start locking people up based on the evidence they're already looking at.
You gonna be doing photo editing in the field with a tablet? Come on...
Nowadays, a computer capable of storing the enormous amounts of data generated by shooting in RAW at 20MP, as well as running CS5, Lightroom, and a host of other photo apps is pretty much a necessity for any serious photographer. My mother generates between 80-100 GB of data a day on a typical shoot. Granted, she's a professional photographer, so she's probably at the higher end of the spectrum, but still, once you get into the SLRs you've moved beyond the typical needs of someone taking pictures with their phone and crap.
For the hobbyist a tablet is probably fine, but this person doesn't seem like a hobbyist.
Wow, I need to move to your neighborhood. The west side where I'm at near the mall, according to the techs (off the record, of course) this node is "over-saturated" or something, and it's a problem that Charter knows about, but it's going to cost them quite a bit to upgrade the equipment to handle the demand so they're dragging their feet.
Basically, according to the tech (they've been known to talk out of their ass, too, so who knows, not like you'll get a straight answer from anybody, really) it's kinda like the recall scenario described by Ed Norton in Fight Club...until it costs Charter more in service calls due to problems with internet speeds and connectivity then it will to upgrade their equipment, they're not upgrading, so I'm pretty much screwed until Netflix stops working for a ton of people, more or less.
I would love it if we got a real study, one with some depth, where they went around and tested every ISP during peak hours at several locations in their service area. I have a feeling that if they did that we'd see a much different story than this quasi-fluff piece...
Wish I could mod you up...
Why can Internet service providers get away with crap like this?
Here in America we have this little thing called "campaign contributions"...plus, you know, all these corporations are "people" so their speech is protected.
I'm told I get 21 meg (mbps, megabits per second, kinda figured that was understood, since that's the units everyone uses, including Charter). Never in my life, hardlined, have I gotten that speed, on multiple speed tests, including Charter's own. Not even the burst speeds get close.
The speed tests are also in units of megabits per second. I know the difference between a bit and byte.
I'd like to know where they tested Charter at. If you're in a relatively sparse area they're great, but here in Madison, WI, they fucking suck. I have "21 meg" or some shit and at most I pull down between 2 and 5. Between the hours of 5 and 7 or 8 o'clock in the evening, it's damn near unusable because everybody in the city comes home and starts streaming Hulu and Netflix and I'll be lucky to pull down 700k, and the latency spikes like you wouldn't believe. The techs themselves tell me never to expect to hit the speeds I'm told I'll get, because that's not "real-world use."
So if I'm never going to get that speed in practical application, why again are they allowed to advertise said speed?
Two words: installation error.
Oh, you better fucking believe it. Let's see how many defective chips get replaced now...better keep your lawyer in the loop next time you build a machine.
Oh, they have some here, too, but the thing is nobody freaking uses them because they don't feel like climbing a flight of stairs. So instead they just say "screw traffic" and walk across the street, knowing that the 10,000 people crossing with them means that traffic ain't moving no matter what color the light is or if the WALK sign is illuminated or not.
Also note that it HASN'T been banned as a disease vector control, but has been restricted so it's not sprayed around like crazy as it was in the 1950s.
My mom told me when she was young they used to drive up and down the streets spraying a fog of that crap and all the kids used to run behind the truck and play in the fog...I can't even imagine what kind of damage it did to their bodies. It can't have been good, at any rate. I mean, we're not talking about calcium here...