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I typically travel with a laptop and camera, but usually with a bag for each: a
backpack for the laptop and a lowepro top loader for the camera. I'd really prefer a single
backpack for both a 17" macbook and a DSLR with a larger 24-70mm or 70-200mm lens attached, as well as perhaps a few spare lenses and accessories. I've seen options from Case Logic (the SLRC-206), Kata (the DR-467), the Streetwalker Hard Drive, and LowePro (the CompuDay Photo 250, the CompuPrimus AW), but I'm not seeing a clear winner. I'm guessing a few of you have opinions on this subject, so share them so I don't buy a piece of garbage.
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oh come on! The article is about a backup and all we get a few lines? You can do better Dr. Bob!
I use a LowePro ProTrekker 300 AW. It fits the description you provided, but it might be a bit large for you.
If you haven't checked out the bags from Think Tank , then you're missing out on the good stuff. They do it right, and charge accordingly. Several flavors of bags/packs well suited to the sort of mix you're talking about. Their ShapeShifter is worth some study, as are some of the Urban Disguise models. I use lots of their products in one way or another, and swear by them.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
After dragging my 25lbs. backpack of Canon DSLR gear around for 10 hours in Amsterdam one time (too many) I changed gears (literally) and went with a rangefinder system. So much easier to deal with, and there's no need to drag around a huge back anymore. Read more about it;
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Nice backpack for lots of stuff. Lots of body hugging stuff too. /flame on!
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The folks over at Naneu make some great bags. I carry a briefcase style one that came with SLR/DSLR inserts, and it is fantastic. Based on your criteria and my experience with their other products, I expect that the U220 would be an excellent choice. http://www.naneubags.com/products-by-series/urban-gear/u220n . It's $300, so that's the other side of it. IMO, you get what you pay for in this sort of thing.
I've traveled all over the place carrying all that gear (that's actually my exact list of typical stuff) and I've used a Tamrac "Aero Speed Pack". I actually have the older version (unfortunately orange), but the newer one has a side zipper to get that camera out of there faster. I've never had to complain really. And ditching the laptop is hardly a possibility sometimes. Sometimes you just need all that stuff.
Best photo related investment. Never looked back. They say it's only for 15in laptop, but my MacBook Pro 17" fits perfectly.
Honestly, I can't see the argument for a single bag. I travel with similar equipment and the last thing I want to do is add the weight of a laptop when I'm out photographing. The laptop stays in the hotel or car. What I do carry with the camera is a small USB drive which holds one of my three backups (in case my laptop is stolen.)
Keep in mind that the laptop requires a power adaptor and, internationally, a plug adaptor. If you're like me, you might even include a mouse and other USB cables to charge phones and MP3 players. In other words, you might as well have a dedicated bag.
For bag advice, I strongly recommend that you go to a dedicated site such as dpreview. I've received excellent advice for people there.
Regards,
Keith
... for you to place all of this valuable gear into a single, easy to handle package for someone else to walk of with.
I have a Lowepro Compudaypack (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EY5R8C/). I bought it in a sort of emergency need situation (I had doubts about an old bag holding up) for use in international travel.
I love it.
This bag gets extremely heavy (two DSLRs with 4-5 lenses, 17" XPS, my wife's netbook; along with extra batteries and a complement of chargers for everything) and has held up extremely well. Best pack I've owned, if you shop around some of the Ritz/Wolf camera places will sell it for under $60 from time to time.
I'm guessing a few of you have opinions on this subject, so share them so I don't buy a piece of garbage.
Bad idea. By the time you're done listening to everyone's opinions on Slashdot, you'll be fully convinced absolutely everything on planet earth and beyond is a piece of garbage.
I think the winner would be StreetWalker® HardDrive, based on the specifications and photos I see it looks like that is the perfect job for your needs and most of photographers which get their camera equipment and the laptop. A problem might be that you asked to fit your 17" laptop and StreetWalker® HardDrive is only for 15" I think.
-Gent
I just tried the Lowepro Fastpack 350. Online, it looked perfect, but the top compartment is rather small, while the bottom (camera) compartment was way too big for me. You didn't mention what DSLR you have. I have the Nikon d7000, middle-of-the range, about 700g + lens (18-105) attached. I intend to own a 50mm lense (rather small) and an ultrawide once I can afford it. Anyway, after much hesitation and research, I gave up finding a good backpack. Instead, I choose the Lowepro Inverse 200 AW - rain cover, tick materials, and comfortable to use. A bit big for your waist, and fully loaded perhaps a bit heavy, but it does have a shoulder strap. I'm kinda worried about safety - there are thieves riding fast motorbikes that can grab your camera - so I use both. It's on my waist while I have the shoulder strap across my body (that relieves some of the weight from my waist) - it's more comfortable than you'd think. I'm rather happy with this set up, for I have really fast access to my camera. This bag holds a DSLR like mine with a 70-200 attached + one lens, or a smaller lens attached and two other lenses. That's enough for me, I don't need quick access to more lenses. If I go out to shoot landscapes, I'd attach the wide lens, and I'd put a more generic lense in the bag. Same with portraits. I'd keep the third lense safely in my backpack. This, waistbelt + a small, comfortable backpack provides the best mobility/safety combo. For me, at least.
Check out the Computrekkers from Lowepro. I have had the AW version for a little over 7 years. I've taken it all the way thru the rain forests of Costa Rica and across Europe without any problems.
I don't know about you, but have you ever tried to take a tablet + DSLR with you for more then a week?
One day, tablet's will be available for power users. right now, you might as well just dump/edit photos on the camera itself. it'll provide you little for functionality.
Go to your favorite store that sells knapsacks for hikers and students. REI is great if you don't mind the price premium.
Bring all your gear.
Load all your gear into each and every pack they have, and put the pack on your back. Include the packs which you're sure wouldn't work.
You should be able to find something that comfortably fits everything and which doesn't scream, "Mug me! I'm carrying around thousands of dollars of easily-fencable equipment!" Instead, you're going after the "I'm a poor student lugging around waaay too many textbooks" look.
If you don't have cases for the individual items, you can get padded cloths with velcro to wrap them in; your local pro camera shop should have some. Winter socks also work great for lenses. The goal here is just something that'll keep stuff from scratching as it rubs against each other plus a very little bit of shock protection. No backpack will provide more than that, so there's no point in pretending. If that's what you really need, get a Pelican case and a custom foam insert -- and forget about carrying it on your back.
Cheers,
b&
All but God can prove this sentence true.
I recommend something from Crumpler (http://www.crumpler.com/US/). I use one of their backpacks and its pretty nice and is fairly stealth compared to Tamrac/Lowepro.
I've also noticed a lot of the "show me evidence" science-cultists, too. They can't argue Chiropractic's merits so they attack me.
Asking for evidence isn't an attack, it's called being rational. I think you're the one that can't argue Chiropractic's merits, no one from from Big Whatever-a cares.
The Resolution has a laptop compartment.
They just released their 2012 gear this weekend. Definitely check them out in person.
Haven't used their photo packs, but I've had good luck with lots of their other packs over the years.
I've got LowePro, Kata and Clik Elite bags and I'll probably wind up getting more.
None are perfect but they all are pretty good, depending on your needs.
LowePro: quality construction, high price, thick padding. Photo Trekker AW has water resistant zippers. Bag (not me!) survived a tumble out of a minivan on the Kalahari desert when the hatch wasn't latched properly. Only damage was a slightly decentered 50-500 OS lens, 1DIV, 5D2, Sigma 12-24 and TCs flash guns unscathed. Bag didn't flinch with 42 pounds of gear. Bag is on it's way out with plastic stiffener bits coming out after 8 years of heavy weight use. No tears or rips in the fabric and looks perfect externally though.
Kata: lighter weight, innovative design. Love their sling bag 3N1-20. Just doesn't hold enough for me. Also evaluating Bumblee-222 and front pack but probably not the one I should have tried (220). Front harness system looks less functional than the Clik Elite, but the frame ventilation system seems the most comfortable and coolest (but takes up valuable space). Padding seems adequate but choosing the lightweight series makes me question the protection.
Clik Elite: lower pricing than LowePro, less padding, slightly lighter weight. Average fit and finish. Clean and innovative design. Pro Express bag not wide enough (center row lens hood gets squeezed with lenses in the outside lanes) compared to LowePro design but guaranteed for airline compatibility. Front harness system integrates well to pack.
I'm going to look at the Tenba shootouts as well, and the newer LowePro replacement for my older Photo Trekker, the 400AW (pricey, especially in Canada).
I carry around an iPad and a 13" MacBook Air so I don't need a 17" laptop carrier.
I have a Fullframe DSLR (implying large large and heavy lenses) and a MBP 17". Fits perfectly in the FP 350. I really like the good and quick access to the camera, that can be taken out without fully removing the backpack.
Negative point is that only slim laptops fit in it. Don't expect to put anything thicker than a macbook.
I've had almost 15 kg of gear in it, and was still comfortable. Fitted nicely, MBP 17, Western Digital mybook (one 3.5 HDD format), 1 extra tele lens, 1 extra fixed focal lense (small) , flash and various accessories (power supplies, cables, etc). The bag is still compact for all that content. The compartments are well organized and optimized.
Largest drawback is that you can't nicely strap a tripod or monopod to it. I miss that a lot.
http://products.lowepro.com/product/Fastpack-350,2087,14.htm
http://www.caselogic.com/slr_camera_laptop_backpack/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=138052
This case is wonderful. Its modular and allows me to carry my laptop, charger, and camera all in the same bag.
A little spendy though.
The short version is that a good mix between the two doesn't exist if you want to use the backpack effectively for either item. So if you want a backpack that you can pull your camera out of quickly but still have easy access to your laptop you'll be hard pressed to find one that fits a 17" laptop. I've searched myself for such a backpack before (looked at the CompuDayPack before - a companion to the CompuDay Photo - stay well clear) and the my conclusion is that how you use a laptop and how you use a camera are too disparate for one bag. The best you can hope for is a storage bag (basically luggage) that stores both. To solve this issue I usually go for a laptop backpack big enough to hold a smaller camera bag that I can take out when needed. As others will point out, the weight will be a serious issue if you're doing a day's travel so your mileage may vary.
-- More squirrels than sense
I've enjoyed my Crumpler "Karachi Outpost (M)". They're pricey, but quality built. There's plenty of room for a DSLR, a couple of lenses, and my 15" MacBook Pro. See: http://www.crumpler.com/us/Camera-Bags/Camera-Backpacks.html?LanguageCode=EN
why dont you focus on the original, SPECIFIC question instead of offering useless off topic answers. he lugs around 17 inch mbp for a reason. probably because it's the best tool for the job. christ you people
I carry the Kata 467 with a Sony a500 (I know, I know...), nifty 50, 100mm 2.8 macro, 18-55mm kit lens, external flash and a bunch of light modifiers. The bag is awesome, and has kept all of my stuff safe for the last year and a half.
if you want to pack that much though, expect to have a BIG bag.
A 17" MBP and a big DSLR just happen to be a bad choice for travelling. Go for a 11" MBA and a Panasonic or Olympus MFT camera instead. Almost the same capability at a fraction of the weight and bulk, and less expensive to boot. You can easily half your pack's weight this way.
Their backpacks are designed for this exact combo. Got my laptop, filters, lenses and body in one backpack.
Look for the "c list celebrity"
I think you're looking for something like this:
http://www.crumpler.com/us/Camera-Bags/Camera-Backpacks/C-List-Celebrity-L.html?LanguageCode=EN&SKU=CLC001-B00170
You can go smaller too, but that should carry everything you could possibly want and then some.
Manfrotto had a numer of very good bags. They not only carry a laptop and DSLR, but also can carry the short Manfrotto tripod.
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
I love Tamrac bags, they have a great build quality for the cost.
I have had the Adventure 9 and am currently using the Expedition 7x and they are great bags.
I would highly reccomend any of these bags:
http://www.tamrac.com/5587.htm
http://www.tamrac.com/5588.htm
http://www.tamrac.com/5549.htm
http://www.tamrac.com/5550.htm
Really?? You can't even buy a backpack without trying to turn it into rocket science?
http://www.crumpler.com/AU/Camera-Bags/Camera-Backpacks/Karachi-Outpost-L.html?LanguageCode=EN&SKU=KOT001-X00170
I have one, its heavy but does what you want.
Try the Tenba Messenger series. Great bags. And I own a lot of bags, so I speak from quite a bit of experience. I actually own the "Mini" size, which holds my iPad or MB Air (actually both if I try), and can fit my Canon 7D without grip, plus a couple of lenses and a flash pretty easily. That's the mini... there's a small, and a large also. It will hold your gear. You can check this thread to see how it will work with a 70-200 attached (hood reverse, obviously).
Crumpler makes great bags for that kind of thing. They aren't cheap, but I've had my backpack for 5 years and it still looks pretty good. www.crumpler.com
I have & like the Lowepro Fastpack 350, and I think it will meet your needs. There's a full sized laptop sleeve along the back. The bottom part of the compartment will hold a DSLR+lens and 4 other lenses or 2 lenses+flashes. The camera compartment can be opened from the side, so you can get your camera out without taking the backpack off. There's a side pouch that can be used to carry a tripod (be careful with the mesh) if you add a strap at the top, or you can strap it to the bottom/back. The top compartment is large enough to hold a light jacket + other random stuff (MP3 player, chargers, mouse, grad filters, cleaning gear, filters, etc). Take a look at the pictures on Amazon to get a better sense of the layout.
I visited a local photo store to check out options before ordering this one, which met my needs and was reasonably priced relative to the alternatives.
This is the first photo backpack I have been satisfied with after using for an extended period of time. All the others I found something to dislike after a while.
My recommendation is to not get one of those sling-shot-thingies, they are going to get uncomfortable if you are out walking for a while. Get a proper backpack. The LowePro FastPacks combine the one advantage the sling-thingies have, namely fast access to your camera, with comfortable carrying. It was on my back more or less constantly for a week in Ireland, and the camera was never more than a quick move away. The ability to grab the camera without taking the back-pack off is going to pay off again and again.
It does of course depend a little on what you are hauling, I have a (rather largish) Canon 7D and a selection of lenses. If you are only carrying a single lens in addition to the one mounted on the cam, the camera compartment may be a little big. My experience is that you can never get enough space in the camera compartment though. I have a few lenses, a charger, an extra battery, some filters, a remote, some cleaning stuff etc in there. Fits beautifully.
My only point against it would be the lack of a place to hook your tripod, but you can attach it to the back of the bag if it is not too big and heavy.
I can not overstate the value of having easy access to the camera without taking the pack off your back. Both for speed, and also for convenience. You don't want to set the pack down on a wet/dirty ground or somewhere else nasty.
I have a compurover AW and it's awesome. Holds my DSLR w/ 4 lenses & Flash, laptop, then has a massive storage compartment above the camera for all your other goodies & a change of clothes or your lunch. Also has a built in holster thing for strapping on a tripod. Top it off, if the weather turns, it's got a rain cover.
I gave up on the idea of carrying both in one bag myself. I went back to a backpack for my dslr, which also includes tripod straps and a regular laptop bag with shoulder strap for the laptop. Leaves me with plenty of miscellaneous storage space, everything is easier to reach, and when I need to travel a little lighter I just leave the laptop bag in the room/car/whatever. Most of the time when I'm out on a shoot I don't use the laptop anyway (exceptions would be something like outdoor portraits).
I don't think it's all that relevant but I use an HP elitebook rather than a macbook pro.
How about you you show me before/after x-rays of subluxations. Then we can talk about chiropractic's merits.
Oh wait, you can't. Subluxations don't exist.
Have fun peddling your quackery. Your profession is giving one of my friends (a physical therapist) TONS of business repairing the damage you quacks inflict on people.
I don't know about that, overpriced: yes. funky: sure.
but "garbage": I don't think so. they may not be the most ROBUST laptops in the world, but they'll take a beating. and for internals, it's hard to find a laptop with real components in it these days.
Tamrac has the Evolution Series which can carry a multitude of equipment including a laptop in the 8 and 9 models. Nicely padded, quick and easy access to the camera (maybe a little too easy if you have it on your back and a thief comes walking up behind you), and it can carry a tripod.
The bottom section has movable velcro walls to allow you to position your gear as needed.
It also can be used as a sling bag or as a backpack. I bought the 8 model for myself and it has worked great for me.
http://www.tamrac.com/f_evolution.htm
I picked one of these up a couple months back, and it's been great so far. I don't have a ton of gear, but that means that I have quite a bit of flexibility in deciding what goes where. I have three main configurations:
Light. This is mostly for around town.
Canon 450D w/ Sigma 50mm 1.4
Canon PowerShot S90
18-55mm kit lens in case I want a wider angle
Luma Loop
iPad in the laptop pouch
MiFi
Cables, adapters, etc in the various pockets
Heavy, for when I leave town. All of the above, plus:
15" MacBook Pro, charger, camera battery chargers, and the MiFi charger.
500gb portable disk
Shure earbuds
Diaper. I'm a dad, and this backpack is big enough to hold the light configuration, plus a second iPad, diapers, wipes, a change of clothes, bag of snacks, and a couple books and toys. I sometimes leave the kit lens at home, since the S90 covers most of the same range and it's easier to pull out than swap lenses anyway. I can actually (barely) stuff the laptop, charger, and disk into there, too, but I don't usually need to.
Even loaded to the gills, it's not terribly uncomfortable. My only complaint is that the tripod straps on the side are kind of lame. They'll hold my tripod fine, but it becomes impossible to set the bag down and the balance is totally whacked. Some have a center read-mounted tripod setup, and that would be much preferable — but at the expense of easy access to the contents. The one other thing is that it's hard to use the last couple inches in the bottom because of how the flap opens. I don't mind, I just put the larger / less frequently used stuff down there.
Otherwise, it's been great. I love that it sits upright when I put it down instead of falling over, and I feel much better about having the camera up at the top of the pack instead of on the bottom.
http://www.tenba.com/products/Messenger--Photo-Laptop-Daypack.aspx This bag has enough room for a laptop, body, 2-3 lenses, and still has a compartment up top for miscellaneous items. Plus, it still fits under most airline seats, saving the overhead compartment for your luggage.
-Ryan
That would be a good Ask Slashdot question.
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That reason might have been made moot by the advent of different and more interesting tablet options.
I will be dumping my netbook for an Android tablet very soon because of this.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
They make a variety of bags that look and don't look like camera bags. I use the urban disguisel line myself.
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You haven't said how you use your camera gear. Do you want quick access to it while walking around which would require side access? I do. To use these bags you swing them around like a sling off of one arm to get to the side access. I also want the ability to keep a 70-200 2.8 mounted on a body of considerable girth (7D/5D).
These are the bags I am considering that have those requirements.
The Tamrac Evolution 8 and soon to come out Evolution 9 have Laptop sleeves and side access. The 8 does fit a 70-200 2.8 Mk II mounted but it is awfully tight to put anything else in there easily and switch stuff on the go.
The Kata 3n1 33 has a laptop sleeve but is more expensive than the better made Tamracs.
Another bag to look into is the Vanguard Uprise series. These also include side access.
The Tamrac appears to be the best option for me, I'm going to wait and see an Evolution 9 in person to see how big it really is.
I'm a big fan of my Tamrac Expedition 8x. Feels good on, holds my camera, flash, 150-500mm, 6 lenses, with room to spare. Holds a tripod on the outside, and has the M.A.S. and S.A.S. system too so you can add external attachments. I also have a little pack for my camera and lenses from them that fit the M.A.S. system too.
Downsides I have found with it, the camera equipment is against your back, not the laptop like in most packs, no room (without loosing room for camera equipment) for laptop accessories, and I have found it does not fit in all overhead compartments with the laptop in it.
It does however fit my 17" laptop and Xoom in the same pocket without issues.
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T after you."
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SWISSGEAR-IBEX-NOTEBOOK-RUCKSACK-17/dp/B000VSFLCI
this has room for my laptop and my DJ decks and external hard drive and associated accessories. nicely padded and protective from a solid reliable brand
Clearly you fall outside the target demographic that is able to answer, or even appreciate the question. This is a topic that generates a lot of debate even among professional photographers. Camera bags are specialized pieces of equipment that that must protect potentially tens of thousands of dollars worth of fragile and oddly shaped gear and provide efficient access for somebody who might be billing thousands of dollars for a job.
I've got the Kata DR-467 you mention. In it I put my 17" MBP, a Nikon D5k and two (kit) lenses. Comfortably it holds as well both chargers (camera, computer) extra camera batteries, a fold up reflector, moleskin notebook, Slik Sprint Pro tripod (not always, but when I want it it fits well), a full size mouse, an iPad (not terribly well but you can squeeze it in with the MBP), and some other misc stuff. There is room left over in the top compartment for, easily, a jacket and, say, some food.
I used to carry this with me everyday everywhere for about 6 months (have your camera with you all the time). The bag is entirely fine. YMMV. I stopped carrying it because, as others have pointed out, it's pretty heavy. I never cared enough to weigh it but it is heavy enough that I just stopped wanting to deal with it.
tl;dr Kata bag holds a ton of shit. Mine held up well to everyday use for 6 months.
Get yourself a military backpack. Since you're going through a lot of airports with expensive equipment, put "Explosives" in large lettering on the outside so nobody will steal it. (Cough.)
I was in a Timbuk2 store the other day looking for the same kind of bag and even though pricey their snoop camera bag looks and feels nice. I actually tried my camera with a slightly smaller lens that you mentioned and feels comfortable while carrying. you can check from this link .They have various sizes. http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/products/search-results/snoop-camera-messenger
I just ordered a Targus XL for a 17" laptop + some large tools (multimeter, hand tools). I haven't received it yet, so I can't speak firsthand, but from what I've seen online it may be big enough for you. You might want to look into it further.
You gonna be doing photo editing in the field with a tablet? Come on...
Nowadays, a computer capable of storing the enormous amounts of data generated by shooting in RAW at 20MP, as well as running CS5, Lightroom, and a host of other photo apps is pretty much a necessity for any serious photographer. My mother generates between 80-100 GB of data a day on a typical shoot. Granted, she's a professional photographer, so she's probably at the higher end of the spectrum, but still, once you get into the SLRs you've moved beyond the typical needs of someone taking pictures with their phone and crap.
For the hobbyist a tablet is probably fine, but this person doesn't seem like a hobbyist.
I'll second Think Tank...they're built better than any of the other brands, don't look like camera bags, and several of the backpack models have a laptop sleeve that slides into the bag, but can be removed when you're out shooting. I've dragged mine all over the world for several years and they basically look the same as the day I bought them.
I notice that probably 90% of laptops are carried in bags made by the manufacturer (I see lots of Dell backpacks) or companies who focus on laptop bags (caselogic as an excellent example). When you're carrying such a bag that is clearly designed for carrying a laptop, you are pretty well advertising to potential thieves that you are carrying a laptop.
Maybe you live in a utopian world where laptops are never stolen, and you have nothing to worry about - if so, congratulations. I would otherwise suggest you find something that might get you slightly more cover when you set it down.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Use a backpack, so much easier to carry. You can buy backpacks made for laptops with additional storage, Targus makes some nice laptop backpacks.
I have a Kata backpack that is my main 'case' to carry stuff. I generally cram in a 5D, 70-200 f/2.8L IS, 85mm f/1.2, 24-70 f/2.8 L, 100mm f/2.8 macro, a flash, blow bulb, all hoods, lenspens, batteries, chargers, 1.4x tele converter and maybe a few other odds and ends... This is NOT light. I originally got it thinking I'd put a 15" laptop in there but the space they give you for the laptop feels VERY VERY tight and I wasn't comfortable doing that.
Again, a backpack of this size is NOT going to be light, you will NOT want to carry it very much and you WILL have a sore back/neck afterwards.
I don't recall the model Kata I have, it was quite a few years ago and probably not a current model. Construction on their bags appears to be great though so I wouldn't hesitate recommending them as a brand to consider. I would suggest that you bring what you are considering packing into it to a store and trying it for size/weight/fit first.
If Taco is like me (and in this respect I expect that he is), he intends to do some editing during his downtime while on vacation. At present, that's just not something that a semi-serious photographer is going to be able to take on using a tablet.
CmdrTaco, consider something from Kata, maybe the R-106. I'll vouch for the feel of the thing - I have a 105, and the weight distribution when loaded is pretty good.
You know... I seem to remember a group of people taking the "martyrdom" approach when defending their point of view as well.
We, in the scientific community, call this a charade and dismiss it.
Crack doctors are laughable, a trolling crack doctor... hilarious.
Did you completely miss who asked this question?
"One can not truly appreciate Shakespeare until you have heard it in it's original Klingon" -Star Trek
Lowepro is my bag of choice. IMO. Perhaps now that tablets can tether to my camera, I too will be looking for a small, lighter bag, with more room for flashes and pocketwizard space not to mention more lens. I try to hold it down to carry on weight, but have to put on my superman face because when I hoist that bugger in the overhead, the 50lbs + almost throws out my back.
As is the classic Domke FX.
I have an R-103 and it is about ... 6 years old now. Been hiking with it in Hawaii, honeymoon in Jamaica and countless other places and is in perfect shape. The bag itself is pretty light for the padding and construction.
What I travel/keep in there most of the time. Canon Rebel XT (yes it is old but invested in my lenses), battery grip, 17-85f4, 50mm 1.4, 70-200 f4 IS, 580ex flash, plus spare batteries. All that is just in the inside compartment. There is still the oustide and inside zipper compartment. I tend to use those for my iPod, phone and small point and shoot. With everything in there it is tight, but manageable. I usually will take some things out of the bag if I am taking somewhere where I know I won't need that equipment.
Laptop - I don't use it much but when I do I have a Powerbook 12" I put in there. I just have many CF cards.
I have found the key is don't bring stuff you won't use, and if you do leave some in the hotel room and travel light. For example I didn't need my 70-200 IS on a nature hike so I locked it in the safe.
Fear Is the Only God
Just get an iPhone! You are not supposed to carry a giant laptop and a huge camera anymore. Take crappy photos on a cell phone and send them to the cloud!
Sorry, but gray text on gray background is making my eyes bleed.
No, the 50 pound backpack is mine (LowePro CompuTrekker) with a small laptop (13" is sufficient for basic photo and video editing), DSLR, 6 lenses, teleconverter, hot shoe flash, videocamera, wideangle lens, external mic, and various accessories, cleaning supplies, batteries, snacks, maybe a change of clothes, etc. The amount of gear in the question is probably about 20 pounds.
The problem here is that "travel" is a vague term that can have many different meanings. On a typical trip, I will usually have three different configurations. For transit to/from my destination, only the expensive/irreplaceable components (and lithium batteries) are placed in a lightweight laptop bag to keep the weight down to about what is required by international air carriers (though usually slightly over). For basic sightseeing or small events where I need high mobility, I'll go with either a belt system or a cheap old beat up backpack (with everything inside in padded cases). And for when I need to have everything with me, I load up the heavy duty camera bag, sometimes with a tripod hand carried or in a separate bag. The camera bag also doubles as a padded interior for a Pelican case, which in turn functions as on-site storage for everything I'm not using (and sometimes as furniture). All of this is easily manageable for me and is a great theft deterrent - try to lift my fully-loaded bag too quickly and you'll be in need of medical assistance.
No idea about whether any of these would be appropriate, but here are the Lowepro backpacks that are designed to fit both cameras and laptops (they have dedicated padded sections for naked cameras):
http://products.lowepro.com/catalog/Notebook-Camera,16.htm
Others have recommended plenty of non-cute backpacks, so here are some more fashionable alternatives....
At Targét, this gal found the perfect solution for her laptop, camera and a few lenses, and for only $20!
Trey chic, this cotton bag with pink lace design Techie Diva found doesn't offer as much padding, but squee, cuteness!
Here are several other options Lynette compiled for us, not just purses, but messenger bag style as well, which would be easier to carry over the long haul.
For the future, just check with your favorite bloggers, if you don't like to shop as much as the next gal! ;-)
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Good-bye
You might want to look at the Quantaray Pro line before you purchase. I use an U-100 to carry my Nikon D300 with 80-200 f2.8 plus lenses and flash. I don't usually carry a laptop when I shoot but the pack has a compartment large enough for your laptop. It was less expensive than the other contendors here. Food for thought.
This happens with every Ask Slashdot. People who don't have anything to contribute in the way of an on-topic answer are still compelled to chime in, so they start arguing about whether or not the question is valid, changing the specifics of the question, etc.
And so you get, "Why ask for a $100 backpack solution when you could just buy a $600 tablet?"
The answer is, "Nevermind why he wants to carry his laptop. Answer the question or don't."
National Geographic sells the Earth Explorer series. Durable hemp canvas and plenty of padding; sew a patch over the National Geographic logo for stealth (or don't; looking like an NG photographer may be a pro or a con depending on where you're traveling).
I've got the medium, and use it extensively for traveling (albeit not with camera gear), and I'm more than impressed with the quality. I've visited three different continents with it as my only pack, and would buy it again in a heartbeat.
Keep in mind that NG apparently measures laptops differently than everyone else; it would be wise to try fitting your laptop into the bag before purchasing.
They have a variety of hand bags and backpacks. Just don't forget to either remove the red label, or cover it with something else.
http://www.tiffen.com/results.html?search_type_no=455&tablename=domke
The canvas finish is durable and timeless.
"Please don't sigh like that, maam"
Has several nice camera back packs that have laptop areas. Best of all, they're compatible with Tamrac's modular component system. So you can buy additional lens and accessories pouches and mount them on the back pack for expansion.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/544650-REG/Tamrac_558701_5587_Expedition_7x_Backpack.html
I used this bag on a three week trip to Euope last winter.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/428388-REG/National_Geographic_NG_5162_NG_5162_Earth_Explorer_Medium.html
It held my DSLR, Two lenses, notebook, Rain gear, has many pockets. I used it as my carry-on and as a daypack. They also have larger and smaller packs available.
I carry a Nikon D7000 and a 15" MBP every day in this: http://www.tamrac.com/3447.htm
The bag does well protecting its contents and also has enough storage for camera and computer stuff. I like this bag and I am glad I got it.
I have exactly the setup mentioned in the post, and I use a Lowepro CompuRover AW. I'll put in the bag a Canon 7D with 24-70mm f/2.8L attached (with the giant lens hood loose in the upper compartment), a 70-200mm f.28L, a 580EX, a 50mm f/1.8, and accessories in the top compartment. I also put a Macbook Pro 17" in the laptop slot. It all fits. It's heavy. I fly with this arrangement as a carry on (no airline has asked me to check it yet, and it's smaller than many people's carry on suitcases). Still have some room for water/food/nook. I have fit another camera body and lens in the camera compartment for a wedding before.
The other packs listed look smaller than the CompuRover AW to me. I like having the flexibility of a larger bag so I can fill it up when necessary.
The solution that I have is to use a regular laptop backpack and a camera shoulder bag that will fit inside the backpack. That way, when I want just one I can get just one.
Are you adequate?
http://www.tenba.com/products/Messenger--Photo-Laptop-Daypack.aspx
I use a Tamrac Cyberpack 8. It will hold all this and more.
Sigma 50-500 Lens
Nikon D300 w/ 18-200 and Grip
Nikon GPS
Remote Control for D300
Nikon P5100
P5100 Underwater Case
Battery Chargers for both D300 and P5100
Pack of 10 Filters.
SB600 Flash
17" Dell XPS M1710
External Mouse
Laptop Charger
Blank DVD's
You can strap a Monopod and/or Tripod to the sides of the pack
Yeah, but it's got no less than $8000 of gear in it, even if he's a cheapskate when it comes to glass; maybe $20k if he's OEM all the way. $400 seems trivial in that light.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
...oh, right - you can't. Sorry 'bout that!
(FWIW, I have a D3 and an F4s. It's hard to justify the cost of shooting film these days.)
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/ngs/product/gear-%26-gadgets/cameras-and-photography-gear/national-geographic-walkabout-rucksack
Has served me well so far!
As a semi-professional I can highly recommend any bag made by FStop. I have the older version of this bag. I don't however carry a 17" laptop....I have instead the 15" Dell XPS with B+RG screen and it fits perfectly. http://fstopgear.com/en/mountain/tilopa Bonus - It fits (with a bit of help) into any overhead bin compartment...this way my gear never leaves my side. The Satori is what you want if you carry a 17" http://fstopgear.com/en/mountain/satori Not sure if it fits into a bin. Hope that helps! The best
I fly a lot with my Macbook and a DSLR and my worst nightmare is leaving one of these bags someone that isn't on my back. I know this also has something to do with my general ability to remember stuff but when you're 30 mins past check-in for an international flight (which happens to me several times since I live in Bangkok, i.e. worse traffic than NYC), memory tends to come second. I second the Think tank bag choice, I have the one with the security cable attached to it and it's worth it's weight in gold (no pun intended)
Greetings:
I use a Tenba Shootout large backpack to carry a 17" ASUS laptop, 2 Nikon bodies, 4 or 5 lenses, and all the chargers, cabling, etc. Walked it up mountains and down into the Grand Canyon without anything bad to say. Small enough to go onto planes as a carry-on. Have carried it weekly for over a year without any problems.
-Scott
As a biker (motorised or not) who needed to lug around a lot of gear, I have to say that a 15" courier-style bag has served me very well. In it, I can fit a lot of different combos, depending on what kind of thing I intend to shoot:
- 40D + 200mm zoom lens, 40D + 50mm lens and 13" macbook pro for candid/street photography.
- same photo gear, but instead of the 13" mbp, a manfroto tripod (for night street photography).
- 80mm zoom + tripod for timelapses.
The handy part of a courier bag, is that I can switch between the 50mm and 200mm in less than a couple of seconds. The 200mm + 40D body fits perfectly in the 15" bag. Just get a bit of cushioning fabric so it fits nicely, and you're off. Also, the good point about the courier bag is that you don't necessarily look like a photog, and you can just put the bag on your hip/back when shooting. Because of the nice strap, it's also handy to just attach to the bike when parked and loading/moving stuff from the bike's cases/storage. It does burn in your shoulders a bit, especially with configuration 1, but sometimes you do need the lot when shooting interesting stuff that needs to be sent out immediately (I'm still waiting for a 3G capable card that emails specific shots to a pre-defined address).
I've had a number of occasions where I just put the bike in neutral, whipped out the 200mm and got a grand candid shot, and was gone before the subject ever even saw me.
I think you're completely wrong with the tablet idea. No tablet provides great connectivity/applications for photo editing/retouching on the field. This being said, the 17" mbp is a mistake. Get a smaller one.
In the field, just about any computer will do. The main thing you're wanting is something that's going to allow you to take a look at the composition in full and get a fair amount of the composition at the pixel level. Also, you're not going to be performing a proper back up in the field, so all you're going to get to do is copy the cards to the laptop and keep the originals still on the card until you get home.
The other thing is taking notes, and you're probably going to be better off taking notes on a write in the rain notepad anyways than trying to enter everything into the computer.
What about something to carry your iPad: http://ibackflip.com
Somebody mentioned Naneu pro sahara already?
http://www.naneubags.com/component/tienda/products/view/35?controller=products
"I'm guessing a few of you have opinions on this subject, so share them so I don't buy a piece of garbage." You already did. You bought a mac. .....Sorry I had to XD
I'm not so sure about that..
My iPad + iPad Camera Connection Kit + Filterstorm Pro & Brushes have worked nicely for me.
If you're out hiking there is no need perfectly touch-up a photo. You can do all this when you return home on your powerful desktop or laptop. When you're out in the field you just take the photos and save them to an external storage device so you can free up space on your memory cards.
I've got three Lowepro bags, for different situations.
1) An old holster-type bag, with a shoulder strap. Similar to the Toploader Zoom 50, but much older. I use it for day trips to the fair, things like that -- it'll take my SLR (with or without grip) with an 18-125 lens, and I can fit a 50mm in the outside pocket with a few extra memory cards and a spare battery.
2) A slingshot 200. This is my tool for all-day walks. I spent a few weeks walking all over Italy with it, I take it for day hikes, and I carry it pretty much everywhere on a daily basis. It will hold the gripped SLR with any lens I own, up to the 70-300 VC attached, with my other two main lenses (the 50mm and the 18-125OS) and a flash also in the main compartment. The front pocket holds my remote shutter release, a couple of batteries, a notebook and pens. The top pocket holds a Nook perfectly, and still has space for either lunch or a few other travel necessities -- glasses, contact lens stuff, and an address book, for instance.
3) A Fastpack 250, I think. It may be the 350. With all of my lenses, the gripped SLR, a 15.6" laptop, spare batteries, remote trigger, memory cards, tripod, windbreaker, lunch, ebook, notebook, and all the chargers for everything I'm carrying in it it weighs a ton. But it IS a convenient (more or less) way to move everything at once, and make sure it all makes it through airport security. I usually stick one of the other two bags in my checked luggage if I'm going to bring this along, because it's just too big for daily use.
I have been pleased so far with Tamrac's Evolution 8, otherwise known as Model 5788. It's got enough room for a 17" MacBook Pro, DSLR and a few lenses as well as an additional compartment for charger and accesories. It converts from a backpack to a sling bag, has a tripod pocket and strap to carry a tripod, and contains its own rain cover. The literature says it will carry a DSLR with a lens up to eight inches long attached.
I carry my MBP 15", 7D, 50 mm f/1.4, 100 mm macro, 17-55 f/2.8, 45 mm TS/E, 18-55 kit lens, 2x580EX flashes, extra batteries, charger, flash diffuser, MacBook charger, and wallet all at once. None of those lenses are quite as big as the 70-200, though some of the others are comparable in size to the 24-70 you mentioned. I wear my equipment somewhat hard and this bag had held up very well for me so far. I would recommend you take a look.
I do feel a little concerned that the MacBook lies against my back when I wear it as a backpack, but I know of no other way to carry all my equipment so conveniently.
Good luck in your search.
Lowepro CompuDaypack does not have enough pockets for stuff. It's also phenomenally uncomfortable to wear. I feel like they designed it to suck a lot just so they could put a bigger price tag on their nicer bags.
I also have a Ground Bass Pack (http://www.groundwear.com/showprod.php?idnum=30000205255) which is pretty awesome as a backpack/laptop bag. But it doesn't have the DSLR pockets. It is, however, big enough that you can buy a small camera back and nest it inside.
That reason might have been made moot by the advent of different and more interesting tablet options.
I will be dumping my netbook for an Android tablet very soon because of this.
So which tablet has the 1920x1200 screen, like my 8-year-old laptop (Sony VAIO VGN-A117S)? Which ones also have a mouse and keyboard for effective interaction/editing at the pixel level? When you're dealing with pictures from a DSLR, you don't want to go below this sort of resolution. Image quality can reach the individual pixel level using a DSLR with 14Mpixels and a good lens, with data at 12-14 bits per pixel in the raw image. It's not some crappy phone camera with a miniscule detector and tiny lens, where pixel count is just a marketing number.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
You don't mention whether you're looking for a fast-loading bag to walk around with and have quick access to all your camera gear, or just something that can comfortably hold everything to travel with on a plane. I wanted that latter - I frequently travel with a laptop, tablet, a couple of camera bodies and 3-4 lenses - and I ended up settling on a Think Tank Shapeshifter bag, which expands easily and has neoprene pockets to hold lenses, etc. It's not really set up to be a fast-loader; but when I'm out shooting, I usually have the camera on a strap, or I have a lightweight bag I throw in checked baggage. I don't usually want to lug the laptop along when I'm out shooting, but I need to carry all the expensive stuff on when I get on the plane. Crumpler has a good name, and I really liked the construction, but it didn't have enough internal pockets (for cables, writing utensils, etc.) for my traveling tastes.
I just picked up a Snoop, easily holds my MB Air, 60D and a few large prime lenses w/o any issues.
I have a a giant quantaray backpack. It holds a 17-inch macbook pro and a freak ton of camera. You can get from wolf/ritz camera. I put a clipboard in the back between me and the mackbook for just a little added rigidity. It works fine but it's way too heavy a setup.
If you want to focus on taking pictures take one camera one lens and maybe a filter or two. The more stuff you take the more time your are futzing with tech.
The big backpack is for the airplane trips so I can take everything but the light setup and not have to check it. On a shoot I do not take the full backpack. I take just what I need.
I personally have a bag from cinebags: http://www.cinebags.com/
It's a great, bombproof, well thought out bag. I use it on location all the time.
But it's really really heavy when it's loaded with 2 Camera bodies, 4-5 lenses, chargers, batteries and a laptop. Personally I'd ditch the 17" Macbook Pro and travel with a Macbook Air and shave four pounds. Also consider travelling with a couple of primes instead of those zooms. Those are seriously heavy lenses. I try not to travel with my Canon 24-70L/2.8 or 70-200L/2.8. They're just so darn heavy. I'd rather have a 21mm, 50mm and 85mm prime. And if I really need the reach of the 200 bring a 135mm and a 7D body.
I also used to travel with all of my camera gear. I've since learned that having too many gadgets with me eats up too much time. Between charging, cleaning, packing for side trips, editing, etc. I always felt rushed.
I've sinced pared my travel kit down to two cameras, Canon 40D and S95, one lens, 17-40 f4L, and a light 4.5lbs HP DM4T 13" widescreen laptop. I leave all of the rest of my gear at home. The Canon S95, which gives me DSLR like results and which has HD video, is pocketable and is great for taking to the bar or restaurant.
I find that most of my travel photos are either of scenes, which can be captured by multiple images and then stitched, or people. Very rarely am I taking pictures of animals or objects in the distance where a long zoom would be required. Then again, I like getting close to scenes, people, objects, etc. when I am on vacation. I also have time to do so.
David
i have an old crumpler, it is an australian brand. Can fit a laptop and a slr, no problem, top quality, on the expensive side.
http://www.crumpler.com
does not look like a "steal me - fill with expensive toys bag", great for long travel.
I travel with a 13"macbook and a sony dslr with a vertical grip including the "Bigma" which is a huge lens. Plus chargers, extra lenses, flash units, etc. For that I use QANTARRAY PRO backpack that has the added benefit of not looking like it is filled with thousands of dollars worth of electronics. And the camera portion of the bag can be removed, which has proven incredibly useful sometimes.
see link: http://freelance-zone.com/blog/gear/quantaray-pro-photolaptop-backpack/
I also bought a cart for 9.99 at some airport and it is great combination.
similar to this: http://www.industry-nb.com/products/Foldable-baggage-cart-546401.html
unfortunately, your 17" requirement renders my advise useless
http://www.thinktankphoto.com/products/streetwalker-harddrive-backpack.aspx These guys make really good bags. I have heard many pro-photo bloggers raving about them.
$2.50 for a decade.
I really liked this bag when I saw it at the SXSW trade show this year:
http://www.amazon.com/National-Geographic-NG-2475-Explorer/dp/B000FJ2OTG
It would hold two camera bodies and a few lenses along with a 15" laptop, but it wouldn't hold a 17" MacBook Pro.
Does anyone know of a similar-looking bag that could hold a slightly larger laptop?
It doesn't hurt to be nice.
No, I noticed it was posted by Rob "Micropeen" Malda.
I have the Crumpler Karachi Outpost, and love it ... if you don't mind a pretty heavy backback. It'll hold a 17" laptop, DSLR, and quite a few lenses/flashes/filters.
I currently carry a Tamrac 3380, when fully loaded it holds two laptops (Dell Latitude E6500 and XT2) along with a Nikon D700 with the extra grip and 3 lenses. And all other accessories. It is pretty heavy but i can comfortably put it under a seat in an airplane. The bag is going on 2 years old and has held up well for all the travel I do and protects the camera and laptop well.
Love my ThinkTank Urban Disguise: http://www.thinktankphoto.com/search.aspx?find=Urban+Disguise. This is a briefcase-look bag, which you wouldn't think held camera gear. Can get a harness for backpack use. Word to the wise: this is a LOT of gear to be hauling. My bag weighs a ton without ANY laptop, and my 15" MacBook Pro makes it a strain on a shoulder. Travel lighter than me, please.
I've thought about getting a 15" laptop just to fit in a field bag with my camera, but honestly I prefer the 17" screens and I'd rather just use the same laptop on short- and long-distance events.
It doesn't hurt to be nice.
Last year I picked up a national geographic laptop/camera bag for the same reason. I will say that the name brand bumped up the price a lot.. and the ergonomics are not great. But! It is a great looking bag with lots of room and pockets, and it gets the job done. Of course, now I have more stuff, so I carry a Swiss army laptop back pack to carry up to 2 laptops, the ntl geo camera bag for dslr, and a manfrotto messenger bag for camcorder. Looking back on it, I think the extra money and loss of room for a laptop bag was a waste. You add the word laptop to a camera bag and it taks on $100 min, and takes away space that you could have used for field gadgets..
I see several scenarios for this guy and they all change what kind of bags he need. Personally I do work mostly with people and urban scenery, which is my perspective.
Anyway, according to his story has experience of traveling, which means that he knows about the hazzle of carrying equipment. But I agree, travelling with a 17" does not seem wise if a netbook would do (which it would in most circumstances).
If the guy is doing professional work and he needs to send pics during work, I certainly understand his request for this kind of bag.
Otherwise I would just recommend getting a big bag for clothes accessories and laptop + small bag for day trips. Carrying less equipment improves your pictures a lot! Unless of course you are doing nature photography, when you are better of with a mule to carry the 50 pound tripod needed for shooting panther's in the dark with your 200mm f2 (possible with 2x extender).
I carry a camera body, three lenses and a iPad in a Timbuk2 Photo Messenger bag without a problem. The laptop compartment has plenty of space for a laptop, and there is plenty of storage for accessories. Also, it doesn't look like a photo bag, which has advantages at times, too. I find the messenger bag format to be quite comfortable for hauling a bunch of gear.
Take a look at Thinktank brand bags... they have exactly what you're looking for, they're designed for pro photographers, and are used by pro photographers around the world.
I own a couple of their bags and belt systems, great quality, great features.
-Jeff
http://uncrate.com/stuff/burton-f-stop-pack/
ive never been myself, but my best friend, a world rated gymnist, he had major back problems. he went to a chiropractor for a few years 2 times a week and he cant stop talking about how great it was for him even 7 years later.
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
Buy a stealth AW bag. Big enough for all the gear you mentioned, plus laptop. I use 24-70, 12-24, 70-200, teleconverters, macro lens, flashes, pocket wizards, hard drive backup unit, cleaning stuff, spare crap, cards, etc... Top access is there for getting to your stuff fast and will accomodate 70-200 w/body and hood reversed on it. Backbacks suck. You cannot get to your stuff fast enough and have to put it on ground, etc... Shoulder bags work much better for photography. I've had them all and will not have another backpack. I put my stuff in a pelican case to transport it and bring the stealth with me full of clothes, etc... Then when I get to where I am going, I switch the stuff around (clothes in pelican, gear in stealth). Seems to work pretty good so far. If you are taking short trip and don't need much clothes, just mail them to yourself at the destination point.
external storage??? ipad??? you sure??
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
Built tough and able to withstand constant back country use if desire. Its the bag of choice for most mountain bike photographers I know.
http://www.amazon.com/Dakine-8100-460-29-DAKINE-Sequence-Photo/dp/B002G7JA7E
http://www.zappos.com/dakine-reload-26l-camera-pack
You need to take your stuff to a proper store and figure this out.. I have gone through a ton of bags before being reasonably satisfied w/ the lowepro 250 (which is fine with the 70-200/f4 and the 17" macbook pro), which is my day trip and airplane travel bag. Even with this I also use an old velocity 7 for wandering around with because it is lighter and I can leave my laptop @ the hotel / home. For international 3rd world travel / hiking I use the velocity bag as an insert to a normal camping bag. This gives you the proper framing that camping bags have and also doesn't scream out rob me and is also not easily unzipped from the back.
Tenba sells inserts. Other manufacturers might too. The problem I had with specialized camera + laptop bags was that sometimes I didn't want to bring the camera or the laptop. That resulted me in buying two bags - one for when I want just the laptop, another for when I want the camera+lenses (with or without laptop). The photo-centric design of many bags meant they frequently can't take a laptop, necessitating a third bag for camera+lenses with the laptop.
The insert lets me do it with just one bag. If I want the camera + lenses, I put in the insert. If I don't want them I remove the insert. Having my photo gear in the insert also makes it easy to switch between these two modes without having to move all my lenses one by one between bags. The size of the insert won't work for a pro, but I find it's enough to carry a 70-200, 28-70, one body, and a flash. If the bag I was using were bigger, I could probably squeeze in an extra big lens (put the flash outside but to the side of the insert - like I do the power adapter and cord for the laptop).
The insert also has the advantage of being extraordinarily cheap ($15-$30) compared to dedicated photo bags ($100+, for some reason when you put the word "photo" on something it triples or quadruples in price). And it gives you the flexibility to use whatever bag you like as long as it's big enough, instead of being limited to the dedicated laptop + photo bags that scream "valuable stuff inside!" to thieves.
not ipad. For sure.
How well does that setup handle HD video? And who said anything about hiking or home being nearby? "In the field" can mean spending several weeks thousands of miles from home.
When hiking around, stick both laptop (in sleeve), and camera (in its small camera bag) into your backpack.
Added bonus: there's also space for your lunch box, an extra set of clothes, water bottle, or whatever else you might need on a hike. And when you reach a scenic stretch of trail, take your camera out of the backpack, and put it around your neck (or on belt), so it's easily accessible without having to stop every 20m to take your camera... And when you reach a more boring stretch, back it goes into the backpack where it's easier to carry.
I had the same requirements and ended up with the Tamrac 5788. You can find it here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003D5MZUW
It's a great pack with an excellent laptop compartment and it has the slingshot capability from either side and the ability to use it as a pack or just a sling over. Carried it for 10 days during travels and Russia this spring and it was awesome!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002VPE1WK/ - AmazonBasics Backpack for SLR camera is my standard airplane travel bag. Holds my D90 with two or three spare lenses, gps, backup usb harddrive, and a 10inch netbook with power cables. Still has room for travel docs and a snack.
Of course. Trashcans are great external storage devices.~
Cool post bro, highfive \o
One bag will not fit all situations but when I am flying or can only take one bag and want a laptop and DSLR I use my Lowe Pro 250, the 350 would suit a larger laptop, the 250 suits my tablet or 12 inch laptop.
I have a Kata DR-467, which I bought instead of a LowePro (forgot the name) which had some kind side opening system... wellwell.
The Kata DR-467 has a good price and looks good, but the camera compartment is not speedy to get to if you looking for that. So it's more of a carrying bag than a photographing bag, which was what I looked for. It also comes with a nice weather cover which fits the bag very well. The laptop compartment is also nice and carries a 15 incher pretty easily (but if you have a smaller computer maybe the 465 or whatsitname may be better, as the top compartment doesn't do that much good anyway).
Oh, and make sure you get the i-model if it isn't too much more expensive. I miss the extra tripod-strap sometimes and would love to be able to remove the wall between the camera and top compartments.
I've been using a Kata R-103 for about 5 years now. The bag is bulletproof. It's been all over the world from urban travels in europe to camping trips in the US. I load it up with my 1D and lots of L glass. While the pocket layout isn't perfect, the bag has protected my gear even when the cabbie knocked out of his cab and when I've abused it in the woods. Try as I might to abuse it, the bag still looks brand new. Honestly, I wish it would get a bit dirty. I feel like a poser (ok, a bigger poser than I am) it looks so new. I took the bag with me in to Haiti after the earthquake last year and everything else I took came back smelling horrible. I couldn't wash the "funk" out of some of my clothes, but that bag didn't pick it up. I'm really starting to think it has some magical properties that keep it clean.
I do have a few complaints. First of all the easy access camera section in the front isn't idiot proof. Twice now I have left it open only to have my camera fall out when I pick the bag up later. I shouldn't expect them to fix stupid. The other real problem I have is with their "system." I got the W-92 waist pack to hold my second body. Sadly it took some modification to make the system work. The bags just didn't attach to each other well enough to become one. I also made some minor modifications to the W-92 to make it work as a shoulder bag.
I've had bags from a bunch of other manufactures like crumpler (stylish, but don't protect well) LowePro (just not as good) and Tamrac (not as sturdy) and I have replaced them all with kata bags.
Oh and don't listen to the folks who tell you to get a regular pack. The velcro-in mesh lens bags and dividers do a good job keeping you glass from getting banged around all the time. I used to put my 10d in my Spire laptop bag (if you need a laptop only bag they are great,) but it took too much abuse and collected too much dust and dirt.
They're great!
Which laptop can you buy now that has a 1920x1200 screen?
Since HDTV has taken over the monitor market, Hi-res displays have become almost impossible to find, especially in laptops.
We have the odd situation that older laptops are actually better than newer ones, at least as far as their displays go.
Ignorance killed the cat. Curiosity was framed.
My solution to this was to use a generic looking messenger bag that had a padded computer insert, and add an inexpensive camera/lens insert for around $20-25.
For example:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/509016-REG/Tenba_638_251_Pro_Digital_2_0_Photo.html
That way, I can customize the bag for whatever I need to carry and save weight when needed. Let's say I'm going to a conference for work and sightseeing a few days afterwards. For the trip out, I put both inserts in the bag. When I'm at the conference, I take the camera insert out and keep the computer insert in. When I'm sightseeing, I do the reverse (camera in, computer out).
You could probably do this with a backpack instead of a messenger bag too. Plus, having a non-dedicated bag won't advertise "I have an expensive computer" or "I'm carrying an expensive camera" as much as dedicated bag would.
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Most bags are great, the big deal will be if you're doing a pro body (or standard body + grip) or a standard body. Lots of options that will depend on if you're hiking or hitting airports. I had to go the Lowepro route due to the pro body - and it'll fit a 70-200/2.8 and 3-4 lenses.
Not going to be performing a proper backup in the field? I have a pair of 500GB external hard drives that would beg to differ. Unless you have a big stack of cards or shoot everything in the lowest resolution setting, you're going to need to wipe the cards at least a couple of times a week (or day in the case cited by the previous poster).
everything you need in one bag, they have something for everyone. I love their bags, they can withstand tropical downpours if you get an all weather one.
I speak from experience.
I have this same issue and after trying various solutions I went back to 2 bags with a bit of a twist.
I don't want to have to take a big bag and/or my laptop out with me when shooting and I did not want to have to have a laptop bag and a camera bag as part of my carry on bags when flying so I ended up with a bag inside a bag solution. I got a Lowepro Slingshot bag (I have the 220) that is big enough for me to have my camera a few lenses, filters, etc when I am shooting without being the size of a full pack, and it fits inside a Wegner backpack that also holds my laptop, chargers, kindle etc, so I have a single bag with all my electronics/valuables for a carry-on on the airplane, and then when I am at my destination I can pull out the camera bag for going out taking photos - the laptop and all the accessories are all still together in the backpack and should I decide I need all of it for some reason I just put the camera back back inside the backpack.
It is not ideal, but better than having two separate bags, and better than having just one that is big enough for the laptop as well.
I have a Dakine Mission Photo I bought after my brother gave me his old Dakine bag that had been through hell and proved to be quite durable. It has a removable "photo block" with padding to separate components, rain fly and a board/tripod strap. The removable part is great because if i'm going out of town I can use the main bag to carry clothes and toiletries and throw the camera block on a sling and not have to check any luggage. The backpack is my carry on and the personal is the photo block. My laptop fits in the same compartment the photo block is in, nicely padded. What I usually carry is my Nikon D700, two SB-800 strobes, an 18-105, 50 prime, charger, audio recorder, mini tripod(table top dealy), cords, lens kit, filters, etc. along with my macbook. Big tripod stays home if it can.
One advantage I see to this bag is it doesn't mark you as a photog, Dakine bags are hugely popular among students, skaters, snowboarders, etc. so you blend in well. Crumpler and Lowepro are nice, but everyone knows WTF you are carrying. Also there is a lifetime warranty should anything break. Also since the block is removable you can throw it into any other bag, I toss it in my REI backback when I go camping, if you wanted to be really incognito you could toss it in a cheap jansport school bag. Dakine doesn't sell the photo blocks separate anymore sadly, but I'm sure there is a company that sells something similar.
And I've been reasonably happy with it. As you can probably guess, all of these bags are compromises. You can carry your laptop, and your DSLR, but you aren't going to carry much more. I've got my Canon 350D (with my "go-to" lens, the standard Canon 27-135 IS lens) mounted on it in the top spot in the camera area, then another 5 lenses (ranging from a Sigma 75-300 to a Canon 50 mm prime), along with a Sigma shoe flash stashed in camera area. I still have enough room for my 17" MacBook Pro and power adapter (the laptop has a dedicated, zippered pouch that fits like it was made for it). That's ALL you have room for, though.
You won't have room for much more than a thin paperback (I had JUST enough room to stick my Nook in the front pocket where the wall wart/mouse/extra stuff goes).
So the verdict: it does what you need it to do, and does it well (it even has a pretty nice system for carrying a tripod along). Just don't expect to carry much more than the camera and laptop.
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And I've been reasonably happy with it. As you can probably guess, all of these bags are compromises. You can carry your laptop, and your DSLR, but you aren't going to carry much more. I've got my Canon 350D (with my "go-to" lens, the standard Canon 27-135 IS lens) mounted on it in the top spot in the camera area, then another 5 lenses (ranging from a Sigma 75-300 to a Canon 50 mm prime), along with a Sigma shoe flash stashed in camera area. I still have enough room for my 17" MacBook Pro and power adapter (the laptop has a dedicated, zippered pouch that fits like it was made for it). That's ALL you have room for, though.
You won't have room for much more than a thin paperback (I had JUST enough room to stick my Nook in the front pocket where the wall wart/mouse/extra stuff goes).
So the verdict: it does what you need it to do, and does it well (it even has a pretty nice system for carrying a tripod along). Just don't expect to carry much more than the camera and laptop.
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Not the cheapest option, but this rollaboard is also a backpack -- it's basically a backpack inside of a rollaboard, so you get the best of both worlds, plus a bonus that if you buy a bunch of stuff while traveling, your one bag turns into two. I recently purchased it for business travel, and couldn't be happier.
http://www.amazon.com/Lowepro-Pro-Roller-x100-Camera/dp/B0027JM3B6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1313439687&sr=8-2
Hair products count as heavy items? If they're using that much product, they might have other health issues...
...you said you own a MacBook, you already have a large piece of garbage.
Price of the SD card reader: $30
Price of a 32 gb ipad: ~$600
Carrying around ipad: er... bulky and potential for damage/theft.
Price of another 32gb sd card to use when you've filled up the first one that you can then manipulate on your home computer with a mouse: ~$30.
Not having to carry an ipad with you when you're taking pictures: priceless
On the off chance that the laptop is only there to move the pictures, I thought I'd mention the eye fi cards. I haven't bought one yet, but I'm thinking they might be interesting to use with a smartphone, send pictures from the camera to the phone to an online storage site.
Anyone know if there's some way one could automate cloud storage via such a system? I take a picture with my DSLR, it automatically sends it to the phone, and the phone automatically uploads it to flickr? Seems like there could be some interesting uses there, real-time photostreaming, making sure your documentation of police brutality or other crime couldn't be taken easily, etc.
I'd be lying to myself if I said I would probably ever be in an interesting situation where that would be useful though...
Check out the advertisements in Digital Photo Pro and similar. There are usually a number of ads for backpack style bags----some of which are designed for laptops as well. I'd tell you what I use, but I don't haul around my photo-laptop so my setup wouldn't work for you. A smallish bag is good for my Nikon and my best guess regards needed lens(s) of the day. I know I've see adds, sorry can't remember specifics....
I am exceptionally happy with my Tasmanian Tiger Mission Pack MC. They're made by Tatonka, a German manufacturer of quality outdoor/camping gear. The pack is comfortable, spacious and each storage area differs from the rest so as to be flexible and practical.
I bought my Mission Pack MC at a military gear-specific post exchange at the Kandahar Air Field and paid $200 US for it, which is about 52 dollars less than what it goes for from the manufacturer. I've had it for about three months here at my base and I use it every day, with only the slightest amount of wear showing even after a few trips back and forth to KAF and amongst the Afghan dust that permeates everything.
You'd need to pad all of your gear, and maybe the bottom of the pack for extra security, but I'm expecting my new 17" laptop will fit with ease once it arrives. My only regret is I did not have enough money for one of the slightly more modular systems that have detachable bags, an adjustable back panel with aluminum braces for varying loads and even better padding and materials. Check them out, you won't be disappointed.
My pack: http://intranet.tatonka.com/infosys/infocgi/artintt9.dll?7836_TT_Mission_Pack_MC&0
Main Tasmanian Tiger website: http://www.tasmaniantiger.info/EN/TasmanianTiger/tasmanian-tiger.htm
Parent company: http://www.tatonka.com/en/
Why are you putting all this in a backpack? To travel to/from the bus/airport? Or to walk around when you're wherever you want to be?
If someone is looking for stuff to sell quickly and cheaply, they'll know what makes/brands of bags to look out for ... IMHO, bags such as this do nothing to make yourself less of a target and they lack certain ergnomics (see below) that make them a useful backpack.
When I'm travelling, I pack my camera bag into a carry-on bag with wheels and carry my laptop in a laptop bag. For anyone that sees me at the airport, there's *zero* indication that I'm carrying expensive camera equipment. I just look like another ordinary traveller.
When I'm walking around wherever it is that I want to be to take photographs, I have a camera bag and camera over my shoulders because I can keep both within easy reach of my hands. Nothing is flung over my back where I can't see it and/or is easy pray for someone approaching me from behind.
When I'm hiking, I use a backpack for hiking and the camera bag stays in the car. In circumstances such as this, I would love to use a camera-laptop backpack but they're nothing special for hiking, so why pay a premium for it? Now if my camera-backpack could double as a camel-back backpack when the laptop isn't in it, *that* would be a useful backpack to own. Let me put a couple of litres of water in there somewhere and I'm sold.
So considering that the only useful purpose of a camera-backpack is really between accommodation and your means of transport, aren't there better ways to solve that problem?
Oh, and as for camera backpacks being good for taking your stuff around with - if you see something really cool (lets pretend it is a bear at Yosemite or similar), do you think that the bear will stay where it is long enough for you to unmount your bag, unzip and get your camera out? Not likely. You may have a bit more luck in metropolitan/suburban areas where the subject is usually a bit more static.
Been using this for 2 years...holds lots, decent ergonomics, great for consolidating a DSLR, laptop and all the accompanying stuff:
Lowepro CompuTrekker Plus AW Camera Backpack
($165 on amazon)
I spent all of last month trying to figure out the best backpack for similar needs except a 15.4" laptop. The two finalists were the Kata Bug 205 PL and the Crumpler Karachi Outpost (L). I ended up going with the Crumpler KO since I like the fact that the zipper is behind the backstraps so it keeps curious fingers at bay when traveling. Crumpler has amazing reviews and if you are looking for more info, they have different names for the same product in different markets.
US Name -> European/Asian Name
Karachi Outpost (L) -> Karachi Outpost
Karachi Outpost (M) -> Whickey and Cox
Karachi Outpost (S) -> The Keystone
they have a few more names for some south east asian countries, but just search for Karachi Outpost or Whickey and Cox for the reviews.
Well, that's probably good advice in spite of the rest of the message.... However, I don't think it goes nearly far enough. My advice would be to not use a backpack at all except for carrying the laptop. If you're carrying around a bunch of lenses in a bag on your back, you're going to be throwing your balance way off, and that's just plain not good for your back.
Instead, invest in a large fanny pack and wear it in front of you. Wear the backpack on your back with the laptop, and put your DSLR camera, flash, a couple of spare batteries, some disposable lens wipes, and two or three of your most commonly used lenses into the fanny pack. Leave everything else at the hotel or at home. This is how I travel when I'm shooting (minus the laptop—I leave that at the hotel, too). It's easier to deal with than a shoulder bag, but without the problems of having all that extra weight so far from your center of gravity.
Alternatively, use a rolling backpack and get all the weight off your back.
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I carry a Tom Bihn Brainbag with their sleeves in it for laptops since 2007. I carried two laptops with it (T60+Dell M40) for a long time, now a W500+Sony NX5+acc and a crap load of other goodies. It has been on about 500 (?) maybe 600 flights with me, well over 1,000,000 air miles, was strapped to a pallet in a CJ in Afghanistan (and offloaded at the wrong fob where it spent the night and finally got back to me awfully dusty), bounced around Iraq, and accompanied me to to other difficult, sometimes less than gracious environments without any failures. The zippers are tight and with an occasional NikWax have kept the contents dust-free and dry.
My only complaint is that the Freudian Slip doesn't organize enough stuff - I wanted to make a rigid MOLLE style insert for the front pocket to strap sacks of cables and crap to and keep organized, and still keep an eye out for semi-rigid containers for delicate things, but so far nothing has been smashed inside, the straps and zippers work like new, no real fraying. The waist strap on mine has been a vestigial annoyance, but newer models have removable ones.
The only system failures are that the sternum straps disappeared one by one, but my GF has a later edition of the same bag and gave me hers since they interfere with her anatomy and the updated ones work better, no problems since. She's had hers for almost as long and almost as many miles and pretty much the same difficult travel schedule with no problems at all.
If it ever fails, I'll get another. It would be really cool if they had a ballistic spectra option and it would be very cool if there was an easy option to lock the zippers.
I myself was like you and I picked up a crumpler back pack. Take a look they are pricey but they do the job. Click the link below http://www.crumpler.com/CA/Laptop-Bags/Laptop-Backpacks/C-List-Celebrity-M.html?LanguageCode=EN&SKU=CLC001-B00150 hope that helps NCC
I was searching for a bag such as this as well and eventually ended up with. http://www.naneubags.com/products-by-series/military-ops/alpha-l
Who said his DSLR supported HD video let alone any video. Mine doesn't so my setup works for me.
Unfortunately, it is a Euro-only bag, but I was lucky enough to have my ship pull into Amsterdaam and bought one there. It is a bit pricey, but worth it!
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We're real happy with our Tamrac 3385: http://www.tamrac.com/3385.htm
It fits the laptop nicely, and our DSLR with about any lens that a normal person is going to put on it. We store two extra lenses (70 - 300, and 50mm) and keep the 18 - 135 on the camera usually. Also in the lower camera-section of the bag is the external flash, hood, and other small odds and ends.
Above the camera-section is a nice sized compartment that easily fits the power adapter, and plenty of other stuff that you might need.
The camera is quickly accessible from the side zipper or from the back, so it's easy to quickly get to.
We recently took it on a two week trip to Uganda, and it was comfortable and easy to travel with and took good care of our equipment. It travels as a "personal item" so you can still take a carry-on bag for your clothes and whatnot.
This will hold an SLR and medium sized lens, http://www.booqbags.com/All-Products/Boa-laptop-bags/Boa-flow-XL-laptop-backpack I carry a Canon T2i with 24-105 lens for travelling and it fits perfectly.
Pre-face: Just finishing up a year-long trip around the world... 30+ countries, almost 100 flights etc.
I store-tested everything, even bought a few and got rid of them before settling on my fav setup. Happened to be both Lowepro.
Pro Runner x350 AW: if you carry anything anywhere for an extended amount of time, or fly, the rolling backpack is ABSOLUTELY necessary. The convenience factor of not having to lug stuff on your back UNLESS you absolutely have to, is a godsent. It has space for a computer, 1 big lens, 1 big body + lens + a ton of other accessories.
Classified 160 AW: The key to carrying a camera everywhere while travelling for a year, is to be able to lug it comfortably and to be discrete about it when you want to. This bag offers just that. Most people don't even know it's a camera bag. The shoulder strap and everything is made well and durable. includes a weather cover, which is necessary when you get caught in a downpour somewhere.
I use a cheap backpack (£20) and pad the cameras with my socks and underwear. Yes, the dirty ones are in plastic bags.
Works great, inconspicuous, no extra weight to lug through airports.
It's big enough to carry everything you've mentioned, but no bigger than necessary. It comfortably distributes the weight when fully loaded, and is unbelievably durable. I've used mine on a daily basis for four years, including several cross-country and international trips, and it still looks new. Worth every penny. Highly recommended.
I got a Kata bubblebee, very light and well designed.
I took backpacking in vietnam and it held my 7D (with grip) and a 24-70 L with no dramas, had room for 3 other lens and 2 flashes, + cleaning kit.
I was also able to slot 2 cardreader/HDD's and a few days of clothes, passports etc into the laptop section. (only use the laptop side when i am travelling for work, otherwise its clothes storage when I am hiking)
It was heavy but only because i crammed so much stuff it in, when its empty it almost floats away its that light!
Has a rain and sun cover and heaps of points to get a carabena hooked on to.
Only gripe that since the camera part is well built it does take a bit of time to unzip everything to get at the camera, that said, when walking along somewhere i know nothing is going to fall out or shake loose.
Plus it was great to be able to put a lock or a carabena on to the zips and attach it to the bag, so it stops pick pocketers.
I run my Nikon D90 and laptop around in Crumpler's Whikey&Cox backback. Absolutely the best compromise for carrying both I've ever seen.
It zips in the rear so there's no way for someone to get into your gear while you're carrying it.
Great padding. Comfortable straps and webbing - important when you're hauling so much gear. Even has a loop for a tripod as well.
Laptop pouch is removable to make it camera only, or you can pull the camera/lenses/pockets section as a complete unit to make a big laptop bag.
Can't find this model on their site any more (mine's like 10 years old now) but the "Karachi Outpost" looks like it http://www.crumpler.com/AU/Camera-Bags/Camera-Backpacks/Karachi-Outpost-M.html?LanguageCode=EN&SKU=KOT001-X00150)
The Booq Boa could be what you are looking for: Booq Boa Flow XL Digital SLR/17" Laptop Backpack I have a regular laptop bag made by Booq and it's perhaps the nicest thing I own. I was blown away by the quality of it when it arrived. I also paid through the nose for it, but it was worth every penny. Rushfaster, the site I just linked to, also have an excellent website and excellent customer service. Not a shill, just a regular, satisfied customer :)
Hope it helps.
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In answer to the original question, I'm assuming that only the camera gear (DSLR, lenses, flash, etc.), laptop, and related accessories are to be carried in the backpack. I have used a few of the larger Tamrac bags, and have never been let down by them. However, I don't carry a laptop to shoots. Here are some suggestions which might be good choices:
Tamrac Expedition 8x 17" laptop and a lot of photo gear, including 2 DSLRs with lenses attached.
Tamrac Cyberpack 7 17" laptop and a lot of photo gear, but not quite as much as the Expedition 8x.
Tamrac LP8 17" laptop and similar amount of photo gear to the Cyberpack 7.
The LP8 is also convertible between backpack and rolling bag, and might be the best bet as an airline carry-on, if that's a factor (not stated in original question). Of course, if you're hoping to carry your raincoat, food, toothbrush, spare socks, etc. in the same backpack, these models are not the best choice. There are backpacks available which will do this, but they necessarily compromise on the space for photo gear.
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Probably not the dog's bollocks of bags, but this thing does me just dandy. I was out with it last week with a 15.6" notebook, a 10.1" netbook, power packs for both, DV camcorder, four spare tapes, one spare battery, Kodak compact DC, two litres of Lucozade and a complete change of clothes.
Hardly even noticed I was carrying it.
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Which laptop can you buy now that has a 1920x1200 screen?
Not many, and probably no consumer models. They've all gone for the shortscreen 1920x1080 instead. To get a proper 1920x1200, you'll have to shop for one of the few business models where it's an option, such as Dell's m6500, and pay a premium for the extra 120 vertical pixels. Alas, Sony and HP no longer make any 1920x1200 laptops, not even for business customers.
This is one of the reasons we have not replaced our old laptop. Its processor power and RAM are adequate, and its 17" 1920x1200 display is unsurpassed. In fact, its display is a lot nicer than the 15.6" 1920x1200 on my Dell m4400 at work. I fully expect that the next laptop I get at work will be a shortscreen model.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
Is this a commercial?
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I think the best solution for your problem is to give away either your camera or your macbook! :)
This happens pretty much in any place with a community. Since they opened the Internets to everyone, that's it.
Holds all my 7D and various other bits and pieces, as well as the 17" macbook pro in a comfortable backpack style. Be warned, they aren't cheap, but will outlive your camera and laptop easily.
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Awesome case for my Canon 550D and MBP, waterproof base that makes it stand upright, tripod straps, quick access to camera, my 70-200mm lens only takes up one of the 8 compartments inside, extra pockets for small accessories too, I also carry my magic mouse, filter sets, battery pack, etc,
Think Tank Shape Shifter
I have used a number of packs, including lowepro, but for small cameras such as 35mm slrs the Think Tank is the way to go.
Well, if it was intended for an SLR, it would need to be much bigger than it would for a DSLR.
Why? Because 1,000 frames worth of film takes up a LOT of room in that bag. My 32GB card fits very neatly inside the camera, not taking up any more room in the bag.
I have a lowepro fastpack 350 and love it. It fits my macbook pro, my nikon dslr, and a few lenses with room to spare.
I've travelled around Mexico and Central America many times with a Customary Barge (http://www.crumpler.com/AU/Camera-Bags/Camera-Backpacks/Customary-Barge-Deluxe.html?LanguageCode=EN&SKU=CBE001-T01170) bought some six years ago. It holds perfectly both my 15" laptop and my camera with lenses and flash, with plenty of room for even taking along some beers. I would consider buying the same one next time, but so long it has not even a scratch, and if you travel to less than 'safe' places as I have it has the plus side that it does not seem as a "Laptop + DSLR bag".
I went with the Burton Resolution Camera Backpack. Holds my 15" MBP, and most of the camera gear I bring on trips. Also doubles as a great non-camera pack when you don't need that gear by taking out the removable camera pack. The camera pack has a strap on it, so if you want to just carry your camera gear on its own without the rest of the pack, you can sling the strap over your shoulder. It's the best solution I've found to the exact problem you describe.