...your idea of what exactly they mean by "open source movement"
If they (we?) are strictly referring to the idea of software being open source, then red hat definitely has a point, although taking the M$ or Al Gore standpoint of "I/we invented blah-blah-blah" is a bit goofy..
But if you think of the open source movement as simply the idea that information should be free, then red hat is full of it because that was around long before us long-haired pot smoking hippie freak computer geeks existed. If you think about it, that idea can be traced back through history... it gets more general as you go back before patents, but you can go clear back to monks.. they treasured information... copied and compiled it... if not for them we would know nothing about history before at least the renaissance, probably more!
Anyway, my (sorta philosophical) point is that while the idea of the "open source movement" can be pretty specific, there are other ways of looking at it...
I really am not sure about this so thats why i am asking - would the temperature in a black hole be absolute zero (or at least be approaching it as you went farther in)? I would think with the matter so densely compacted there would be no vibration of the particles and this would mean absolute zero.... Hopefully someone has some idea...
The current limitations of paramaters, code, etc prevent anything like that, but 2 letters end all problems to this and make science fiction like The Terminator and The Matrix science reality, and those letters are... (drumroll)
AI
Even what AI stands for explains it - Artificial Intelligence - once we make a self aware computer, all bets are off and if it lears quickly enough that we are no more than an annoyance to it, by the time we realize what we have done it has already taken over robot factories and started rolling out the T-1000s
This may sound very pessimistic and impossible, but with our current exponential rate of technological advances, nearly anything is possible - just think about it, put yourself in an imaginary time machine, and go back several centuries...
1200-1300 - dark ages - try to explain renaissance and be branded a heretic
1500 try to explain enlightenment and natural law and be branded a heretic
1700 try to explain industrial revolution and have farmers laugh at you
1900 try to explain world as we know it in 2000 - get thrown in asylum
2000 try to explain problems and possibilities of future - 2 options, get listened to, or get modded down....
Cracks of Doom become Blue Screen of Doom, Frodo gets hypnotized by eerie blue light and forgets about One Ring
Halfway through the first (and second, third, and fourth) trial runs, box pops up with message "Program MegaSuperDuperRenderer has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down" followed by intense programmer swearing
For some odd reason, no matter what they do, Sauron and his nazgul show an eerie resemblance to Steve Jobs (and gollum looks just a little bit like Linus...)
No one can figure out why the stars move towards them all the time, making everyone sick
By the time the movie is made, Microsoft has become Micro and Soft, and both of them want credit
Um, excuse me Scully (or Marvin, gotta give you credit for the Hitchhiker's Guide reference), but where did the article say anything about chips in your bloodstream or knowing your DNA sequence or the NSA locking on to you and knowing where you are at all times???
This is about nanotech, something that is coming and will change everything. Just because this specific application uses DNA doesnt mean the DNA is yours or mine or Bob Sagets, its just how the technology works..
With that said, your point could be valid about nanotech and the possibility of nano-probes (star trek: voyager, anyone?) floating around in your blood, but please save your conspiracy theory possibilities for when those things actually exists!
EXACTLY!!! Just like you can use a CD burner to make illegal copies of CDs, use a stereo with 2 tape decks to make illegal copies of tapes, or use 2 vcrs to make illegal copies of movies... all these devices can be used illegally but weren't made for that purpose and have plenty of legal uses...
What i think the big deal with this case and with Napster is that when you use the above devices for illegal purposes you really can't do it in a big way without being discovered.... hell, Lars Ulrich even said that he didn't care about people copying a metallica tape for a friend, he cared about "digitally perfect copies of master recordings being widely available over the internet"... the MPAA and RIAA are worried because when a few thousand people make illegal copies of CDs or tapes or movies for their friends, it doesnt mean much, but when millions of people can get the same thing over the internet for free, they start to notice!
In fact, the evidence shows that the Linux argument is a red herring: DeCSS was developed for and runs under the Microsoft Windows operating system. Further, one of the creators of DeCSS, Jon Johansen, admitted that he first provided DeCSS to an Internet Relay Chat ("IRC") room, called "#pcdvd," which is not limited to users of the Linux operating system. (Tr. 632:9-14, 633:1-4 (Johansen)).
What crap is this? Is the lawyer that said it completely uninformed or does he just assume the judge and everyone else to be... The whole idea behind DeCSS was to let people watch dvds on linux, but since the player only works with windows, the necessary decryption (DeCSS) would sorta HAVE to happen with windows and not linux...
Furthermore, the guy also argues that since Johansen first provided DeCSS to an IRC chat and since IRC is not limited to linux that the whole linux fair use thing was just a cover for the nasty, sneaky little hackers...
The fair use of DeCSS is pretty obvious, and i sure hope the judge doesnt ignore it, after all, that would mean that maufactuers of CD burners, dual tape deck stereos, and vcrs can now be sued because their products can be used for "illegal duplication of copyrighted work", even though they have a whole lot of other fair uses as well...
Actually, your point of FINDING the stolen comp could be a better idea for a _realistic_ system.... some sort of homing device like they have in some cars, with a seperate unit that comes with the computer when you buy it that you give to the cops to home in on the jerk that nabbed your laptop (might seem like a bit of overkill but for some people with really expensive laptops whose LIFE is using that computer, it could work... maybe include a button on the remote unit that sends signal to comp to lock it until the 2 are reconnected...)
also, regarding the stupid patent idea... have the "kill" email wipe the hard drive? wouldnt that make it about 10 times easier for thief to use your stolen comp if you have bios or login password?
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If they (we?) are strictly referring to the idea of software being open source, then red hat definitely has a point, although taking the M$ or Al Gore standpoint of "I/we invented blah-blah-blah" is a bit goofy..
But if you think of the open source movement as simply the idea that information should be free, then red hat is full of it because that was around long before us long-haired pot smoking hippie freak computer geeks existed. If you think about it, that idea can be traced back through history... it gets more general as you go back before patents, but you can go clear back to monks.. they treasured information... copied and compiled it... if not for them we would know nothing about history before at least the renaissance, probably more!Anyway, my (sorta philosophical) point is that while the idea of the "open source movement" can be pretty specific, there are other ways of looking at it...
AI
Even what AI stands for explains it - Artificial Intelligence - once we make a self aware computer, all bets are off and if it lears quickly enough that we are no more than an annoyance to it, by the time we realize what we have done it has already taken over robot factories and started rolling out the T-1000s
This may sound very pessimistic and impossible, but with our current exponential rate of technological advances, nearly anything is possible - just think about it, put yourself in an imaginary time machine, and go back several centuries...1200-1300 - dark ages - try to explain renaissance and be branded a heretic
1500 try to explain enlightenment and natural law and be branded a heretic1700 try to explain industrial revolution and have farmers laugh at you
1900 try to explain world as we know it in 2000 - get thrown in asylum2000 try to explain problems and possibilities of future - 2 options, get listened to, or get modded down....
Cracks of Doom become Blue Screen of Doom, Frodo gets hypnotized by eerie blue light and forgets about One Ring
Halfway through the first (and second, third, and fourth) trial runs, box pops up with message "Program MegaSuperDuperRenderer has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down" followed by intense programmer swearing
For some odd reason, no matter what they do, Sauron and his nazgul show an eerie resemblance to Steve Jobs (and gollum looks just a little bit like Linus...)
No one can figure out why the stars move towards them all the time, making everyone sick
By the time the movie is made, Microsoft has become Micro and Soft, and both of them want credit
This is about nanotech, something that is coming and will change everything. Just because this specific application uses DNA doesnt mean the DNA is yours or mine or Bob Sagets, its just how the technology works..
With that said, your point could be valid about nanotech and the possibility of nano-probes (star trek: voyager, anyone?) floating around in your blood, but please save your conspiracy theory possibilities for when those things actually exists!
What i think the big deal with this case and with Napster is that when you use the above devices for illegal purposes you really can't do it in a big way without being discovered.... hell, Lars Ulrich even said that he didn't care about people copying a metallica tape for a friend, he cared about "digitally perfect copies of master recordings being widely available over the internet"... the MPAA and RIAA are worried because when a few thousand people make illegal copies of CDs or tapes or movies for their friends, it doesnt mean much, but when millions of people can get the same thing over the internet for free, they start to notice!
In fact, the evidence shows that the Linux argument is a red herring: DeCSS was developed for and runs under the Microsoft Windows operating system. Further, one of the creators of DeCSS, Jon Johansen, admitted that he first provided DeCSS to an Internet Relay Chat ("IRC") room, called "#pcdvd," which is not limited to users of the Linux operating system. (Tr. 632:9-14, 633:1-4 (Johansen)).
What crap is this? Is the lawyer that said it completely uninformed or does he just assume the judge and everyone else to be... The whole idea behind DeCSS was to let people watch dvds on linux, but since the player only works with windows, the necessary decryption (DeCSS) would sorta HAVE to happen with windows and not linux...
Furthermore, the guy also argues that since Johansen first provided DeCSS to an IRC chat and since IRC is not limited to linux that the whole linux fair use thing was just a cover for the nasty, sneaky little hackers...
The fair use of DeCSS is pretty obvious, and i sure hope the judge doesnt ignore it, after all, that would mean that maufactuers of CD burners, dual tape deck stereos, and vcrs can now be sued because their products can be used for "illegal duplication of copyrighted work", even though they have a whole lot of other fair uses as well...
also, regarding the stupid patent idea... have the "kill" email wipe the hard drive? wouldnt that make it about 10 times easier for thief to use your stolen comp if you have bios or login password?