It runs the software that most people want to run and it interacts with their lives in a positive way.
If you have special wants and needs then that's a great reason for you to look elsewhere, but it doesn't invalidate the value of Apple's technology for everyone else.
This is so obvious that you must know it so I'm going to assume that you are either (a) trolling or (b) far too stupid to grasp these basic concepts--either way, I'm bored.
You think the value of a technology is measured by gigabytes and megapixels but in fact the point of all technology is to improve the quality of life for some human. Nokia's symbian phones might have some good engineering but they don't have the full package the way Apple's products do, with great hardware, great software and a large & well-executed media-delivery ecosystem (tv/movies/music/apps/books/etc.) on a platform which extends elegantly across phones/tablets/computers.
Because you aren't capable of understanding the complete story of how that technology really affects peoples lives then you are left grappling from some explanation of the overwhemling success Apple's had--and so you dismiss it as "good marketing" with a "trendy logo". It's sad and pathetic.
Nokia does have a proud history and they rode the value of that brand quite a while after they stopped making the best smartphone on the block. What existing product do they have which is comparable to an iPhone4 or an iPad2?
Apple is still making excellent products. If they stop making good products and then 3 years later people are still buying it then you could maybe make a case that they are buying it "just for the logo".
The "just for the logo" crowd is just so outrageously stupid. The logo has basically been unchanged for about 30 years--during which time Apple has nearly gone out of business several times (coincidentally when they were making crappy products)--why didn't the "logo" save them then? Why don't other companies get themselves magical logos if it is that frickin easy?
People buy iPhones because they are well-built with a user-friendly interface and a well-executed ecosystem for media (tv/movies/music/apps) across iOS products (iPad/iPhone/AppleTV). iPhone [generally speaking] don't want to tinker with their phones or write code for them.
You are mad that what the majority of people want is not what you specifically want. You want something you can fiddle with and hack at. And that's great, but it is unreasonable for you to expect the rest of the consumer world to subsidize your desire to tinker.
Apple has not misled anyone. People are getting exactly what they want and paid for. It just isn't what *you* want.
Do you think anybody buys an iPhone because they were tricked into thinking they could do some C++ coding for it right out of the box?
The technology is impressive and well-executed. If it isn't something you want, then don't buy it (there are alternatives). I don't see why you have to shit all over anyone who makes a different value judgement about what they want from a phone.
The hype is justified if you understand the technology, but since most customers don't then the hype from them is unjustified? Do you have any idea how that sounds?
Even non-technical people can appreciate good engineering. You don't have to know how bridges are built to appreciate that good ones don't collapse and bad ones do. If you then associate the good bridges with the companies that made them, does that mean that you only care about that company's logo?
for its entire history--it has covered all manner of technology (closed or not). The PS3/Wii/Xbox are all far more closed platforms than iPhones, and they've all gotten plenty of ink here. The space shuttle program has also gotten a lot of ink, I assume you don't believe that's an open platform, do you?
because there is now quite a bit of historical evidence of Apple building high-quality, well-engineered products. I can understand why that would be perplexing to you (a) don't mind fiddling with technology to get it to work, and (b) don't understand technology well enough to appreciate good engineering.
but many people don't care about replacing the battery and they'd rather not have some rickety plastic door on it that pops open all the time.
Every phone blocks signal based on how you hold it--I can understand why that isn't obvious to you but this is a technical website so you probably shouldn't hang out here if you don't care to understand basic RF.
I've never had problems with the iPhone 4 signal quality.
It is really totally okay if you don't want to buy Apple products and you don't understand anything about technology or engineering--the world will continue to rotate just fine.
if you can't figure out that the iPhones are pretty high-quality pieces of engineering.
That's okay, there are lots of nontechnical people in the world and you are one of them. It's weird that you would hang out on a website catering to nerds.
Apple has been making quality phones for years, so it is a reasonable assumption that the next one will also be a quality product, so it is reasonable for some people to say that they will buy iPhone 5 when it comes out.
You probably use 15 electronic devices a day which have microprocessors capable of running arbitrary code but which the manufacturer prevents you from easily running arbitrary code. Why is Apple the bad guy? They are not the first ones to ever make a locked down device.
They are a profit-making venture just like every other company on the planet. Are you new to the planet? is this why you are confused by this phenomenon?
Why are you so off-topic? Are there not enough Apple-themed threads that you have to find a way to dig at Apple on a topic about battery technology?
(a) there are plenty of technical people who like Apple products. I'm one of them. Yes, I'm smarter than you. Think about that for a moment.
(b) who cares how many twelve year olds are running around with iPhones. It is a testament to good engineering that they can make such an accessible product. You should thank god that there are lots of engineers out there that are smarter than you who are willing to build things which are usable by everyone else--that's how the world works. For some reason a sizable minority of computer geeks are infected with this crap that you don't deserve to utilize technology unless you can rattle off a lot of meaningless psuedo-technical babble about how it works.
Trees are round, somebody chopped a few of them down and then noticed they could move heavy objects by sitting them on top of several logs and rolling them (moving the trailing logs over to the front as needed). All wheels are derivative of this concept.
Now you could say that trees are innovative, but they certainly aren't a human invention.
You either buy something because it's shiny or because it has a 1.16Ghz 2-way superscalar processor instead of the 1.03Ghz 2-way superscalar processor?
Maybe they looked at the usability, industrial design, application market, customer satisfaction surveys, reviews, etc. etc.
I'm consistently amazed at the sheer volume of unjustified arrogance wafting over from the Android crowd. Knowing what processor is in your phone doesn't make you smart, jackass. Do you have any idea how much extreme engineering goes into building a bridge? Do you think bridge designers sit around and make fun of everyone who crosses their bridges for not knowing what's in them?
"innovation" literally means doing something positive that hasn't been done before. Noone else has put such a focus on integration, industrial design, and usability with consumer-focused mobile computing appliances quite like Apple has. Therefore, Apple is innovative.
Can you please name me one company/product which you consider innovative? Within seconds of you doing so I'm going to reply with all sorts of prior art on their technology and how all they did was "rethink existing concepts".
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It runs the software that most people want to run and it interacts with their lives in a positive way.
If you have special wants and needs then that's a great reason for you to look elsewhere, but it doesn't invalidate the value of Apple's technology for everyone else.
This is so obvious that you must know it so I'm going to assume that you are either (a) trolling or (b) far too stupid to grasp these basic concepts--either way, I'm bored.
...that's the fundamental problem.
You think the value of a technology is measured by gigabytes and megapixels but in fact the point of all technology is to improve the quality of life for some human. Nokia's symbian phones might have some good engineering but they don't have the full package the way Apple's products do, with great hardware, great software and a large & well-executed media-delivery ecosystem (tv/movies/music/apps/books/etc.) on a platform which extends elegantly across phones/tablets/computers.
Because you aren't capable of understanding the complete story of how that technology really affects peoples lives then you are left grappling from some explanation of the overwhemling success Apple's had--and so you dismiss it as "good marketing" with a "trendy logo". It's sad and pathetic.
Nokia does have a proud history and they rode the value of that brand quite a while after they stopped making the best smartphone on the block. What existing product do they have which is comparable to an iPhone4 or an iPad2?
Apple is still making excellent products. If they stop making good products and then 3 years later people are still buying it then you could maybe make a case that they are buying it "just for the logo".
The "just for the logo" crowd is just so outrageously stupid. The logo has basically been unchanged for about 30 years--during which time Apple has nearly gone out of business several times (coincidentally when they were making crappy products)--why didn't the "logo" save them then? Why don't other companies get themselves magical logos if it is that frickin easy?
People buy iPhones because they are well-built with a user-friendly interface and a well-executed ecosystem for media (tv/movies/music/apps) across iOS products (iPad/iPhone/AppleTV). iPhone [generally speaking] don't want to tinker with their phones or write code for them.
You are mad that what the majority of people want is not what you specifically want. You want something you can fiddle with and hack at. And that's great, but it is unreasonable for you to expect the rest of the consumer world to subsidize your desire to tinker.
Apple has not misled anyone. People are getting exactly what they want and paid for. It just isn't what *you* want.
Do you think anybody buys an iPhone because they were tricked into thinking they could do some C++ coding for it right out of the box?
The technology is impressive and well-executed. If it isn't something you want, then don't buy it (there are alternatives). I don't see why you have to shit all over anyone who makes a different value judgement about what they want from a phone.
The hype is justified if you understand the technology, but since most customers don't then the hype from them is unjustified? Do you have any idea how that sounds?
Even non-technical people can appreciate good engineering. You don't have to know how bridges are built to appreciate that good ones don't collapse and bad ones do. If you then associate the good bridges with the companies that made them, does that mean that you only care about that company's logo?
for its entire history--it has covered all manner of technology (closed or not). The PS3/Wii/Xbox are all far more closed platforms than iPhones, and they've all gotten plenty of ink here. The space shuttle program has also gotten a lot of ink, I assume you don't believe that's an open platform, do you?
because there is now quite a bit of historical evidence of Apple building high-quality, well-engineered products. I can understand why that would be perplexing to you (a) don't mind fiddling with technology to get it to work, and (b) don't understand technology well enough to appreciate good engineering.
but many people don't care about replacing the battery and they'd rather not have some rickety plastic door on it that pops open all the time.
Every phone blocks signal based on how you hold it--I can understand why that isn't obvious to you but this is a technical website so you probably shouldn't hang out here if you don't care to understand basic RF.
I've never had problems with the iPhone 4 signal quality.
It is really totally okay if you don't want to buy Apple products and you don't understand anything about technology or engineering--the world will continue to rotate just fine.
if you think the right way to pick a phone is to add up all the numbered features and then take the phone with the highest total.
Apple customers really don't care about the logo, they care that it is a solidly engineered appliance.
They've built up that brand by doing solid engineering that leads to lots of repeat customers.
if you can't figure out that the iPhones are pretty high-quality pieces of engineering.
That's okay, there are lots of nontechnical people in the world and you are one of them. It's weird that you would hang out on a website catering to nerds.
Apple has been making quality phones for years, so it is a reasonable assumption that the next one will also be a quality product, so it is reasonable for some people to say that they will buy iPhone 5 when it comes out.
You probably use 15 electronic devices a day which have microprocessors capable of running arbitrary code but which the manufacturer prevents you from easily running arbitrary code. Why is Apple the bad guy? They are not the first ones to ever make a locked down device.
They are a profit-making venture just like every other company on the planet. Are you new to the planet? is this why you are confused by this phenomenon?
Why are you so off-topic? Are there not enough Apple-themed threads that you have to find a way to dig at Apple on a topic about battery technology?
Oh right.
At least fanboys are expressing a positive sentiment--haters are losers. Live and let live--somebody smart said that once.
That's funny, that's exactly what I did last night. Your wife gets around.
I'll grant that a larger fraction of iPhone users are non-technical. That isn't the same as "less intelligent".
I give up, why don't you head back to your Python-monkey coding job so you can continue feeling superior.
(a) there are plenty of technical people who like Apple products. I'm one of them. Yes, I'm smarter than you. Think about that for a moment.
(b) who cares how many twelve year olds are running around with iPhones. It is a testament to good engineering that they can make such an accessible product. You should thank god that there are lots of engineers out there that are smarter than you who are willing to build things which are usable by everyone else--that's how the world works. For some reason a sizable minority of computer geeks are infected with this crap that you don't deserve to utilize technology unless you can rattle off a lot of meaningless psuedo-technical babble about how it works.
Trees are round, somebody chopped a few of them down and then noticed they could move heavy objects by sitting them on top of several logs and rolling them (moving the trailing logs over to the front as needed). All wheels are derivative of this concept.
Now you could say that trees are innovative, but they certainly aren't a human invention.
You either buy something because it's shiny or because it has a 1.16Ghz 2-way superscalar processor instead of the 1.03Ghz 2-way superscalar processor?
Maybe they looked at the usability, industrial design, application market, customer satisfaction surveys, reviews, etc. etc.
and I own an iPhone and a MacBook.
Wanna try me?
I'm consistently amazed at the sheer volume of unjustified arrogance wafting over from the Android crowd. Knowing what processor is in your phone doesn't make you smart, jackass. Do you have any idea how much extreme engineering goes into building a bridge? Do you think bridge designers sit around and make fun of everyone who crosses their bridges for not knowing what's in them?
Loser.
think it means.
"innovation" literally means doing something positive that hasn't been done before. Noone else has put such a focus on integration, industrial design, and usability with consumer-focused mobile computing appliances quite like Apple has. Therefore, Apple is innovative.
Can you please name me one company/product which you consider innovative? Within seconds of you doing so I'm going to reply with all sorts of prior art on their technology and how all they did was "rethink existing concepts".
Go ahead, I'm waiting.
No mod points, sorry.