Stop pretending that a corporate business decision is the same thing as government censorship--it's a slap in the face to everyone who has ever had to live with actual, honest-to-god (as in "we will lock you up if you say this") censorship.
Which is that 99/100 iPhone users don't know the clock rate of their phone. They buy it specifically for "battery capacity", "sound quality", and "compatibility with existing architectures and applications" and a host of other usability criteria.
Unless your point was to say that iPhone users are making rational decisions about their phones and that Android-humping tech junkies are the ones obsessed with useless metrics.
If you think Android's success is because of growing awareness of draconian Apple policies. It is because Android phones are cheaper, some have keyboards, and they work on other carriers than AT&T.
...isn't a winning strategy, then are you saying that Apple is losing? They are printing money and consistently rank high in customer satisfaction. Doesn't really look like losing to me.
is more expensive--but that is quite different from the claims that it is prohibitively, unreasonably, or artificially expensive.
A $600 iPhone 4 is not an insane premium over a $450 Samsung Galaxy S Captivate in my opinion, and doesn't indicate that Apple is unreasonably inflating prices or that its customers are suckers. It's not like it is a factor of 2 or something.
My point is that the iPhone is a high-end phone which often gets compared in price to low-end phones or (frankly) less-desirable high-end phones--simply because Apple doesn't want to play in the low-end market.
...so that they can easily do video chats with their grandson. "Easy enough for your grandma to use" kind of thing.
There is a [dwindling] segment of the population which like having a separate [simple] phone but still want one of those thingies that can play music and do Apps and stuff.
What is the unsubsidized price for an Android phone with 32GB of flash in the same class as an iPhone 4? (is there one?)
What about the price for the unsubsidized iPod touch or iPad? Show me a device comparable to an iPod touch (high res display, front & rear-facing cameras, etc.) that sells for far less than $229.
I think the definition of expensive on this forum is whatever price Apple charges. Expensive in this space used to mean $600, now you can get a spectacular top of the line iPhone for $299 and less capable units (new) for down to $99.
$229 for a very nice iPod touch or $499 for an iPad? Seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Apple's strategy isn't to charge extra to artificially inflate their brand, but rather to make high quality devices and charge as little as they can for them and still sustain their business and large R & D expense.
...then men would consider mastery in chess at the same level as mastery in knitting. We wouldn't care.
Women are naturally superior at all sorts of things which we have defined away as trivial. For the most part, I suspect that most women don't care about mastery in chess.
China does the manufacturing--but the chips are designed in the US by US companies. Those companies chose to locate their manufacturing in China because labor is so cheap there.
None of this addresses the main point, that Linpack isn't a particularly useful metric.
If you honestly think that the US can't cable together thousands of US GPU's in order to set yet another meaningless Linpack milestone, then you are not that bright.
What if 100,000 Scientologists shut down Wikipedia? is that still activism?
Yes, because the question isn't whether the action is "activism" (clearly it is), it is whether that activism is good or bad. That's up to individuals to decide.
My opinion: some of the stuff on Wikileaks should be publicly available and some of it shouldn't (I think the world can live without knowing
I think that there should be enforceable laws against releasing classified information--the internet may not make that practical anymore (remains to be seen). There should be just enough of a legal and practical deterrent that it requires effort and sacrifice in order to release classified info--so that it will only be done when enough people feel strongly that it is a moral imperative (remember, people get arrested at sit-ins and they do it anyway, but only when they really care about the cause).
The patents in question were related to implementing a global standard for wireless communication (GSM) which Nokia has an obligation to offer on RAND terms to all comers. Nokia insisted that, in order for Apple to implement this global standard, that Nokia get full access to Apple's patents on things that had nothing to do with standards for anything--like the entire UI for the iPhone. Does that sound fair to you? If you want to build a phone then we are literally allowed to make identical clones to the iPhone and sell it with a Nokia brand.
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I'm one of them. I want a phone that works for what I want and I don't care if I'm forbidden from compiling and running SETI@home on it.
Stop pretending that a corporate business decision is the same thing as government censorship--it's a slap in the face to everyone who has ever had to live with actual, honest-to-god (as in "we will lock you up if you say this") censorship.
In the long run, labor is redistributed to jobs better performed by humans and qualify of life improves for pretty much everyone.
It's just a company, dude.
Please teach me something. What is wrong with the iPhone's battery capacity or sound quality or compatibility with existing standards?
Or did your mom already put you to bed for the night?
Have fun running SETI@home on your Droid, loser.
Which is that 99/100 iPhone users don't know the clock rate of their phone. They buy it specifically for "battery capacity", "sound quality", and "compatibility with existing architectures and applications" and a host of other usability criteria.
Unless your point was to say that iPhone users are making rational decisions about their phones and that Android-humping tech junkies are the ones obsessed with useless metrics.
If you think Android's success is because of growing awareness of draconian Apple policies. It is because Android phones are cheaper, some have keyboards, and they work on other carriers than AT&T.
But they are not equally pretty. Apple's user experience on a phone rocks the hell out of any garbage that Verizon has ever put together.
...isn't a winning strategy, then are you saying that Apple is losing? They are printing money and consistently rank high in customer satisfaction. Doesn't really look like losing to me.
is more expensive--but that is quite different from the claims that it is prohibitively, unreasonably, or artificially expensive.
A $600 iPhone 4 is not an insane premium over a $450 Samsung Galaxy S Captivate in my opinion, and doesn't indicate that Apple is unreasonably inflating prices or that its customers are suckers. It's not like it is a factor of 2 or something.
My point is that the iPhone is a high-end phone which often gets compared in price to low-end phones or (frankly) less-desirable high-end phones--simply because Apple doesn't want to play in the low-end market.
...so that they can easily do video chats with their grandson. "Easy enough for your grandma to use" kind of thing.
There is a [dwindling] segment of the population which like having a separate [simple] phone but still want one of those thingies that can play music and do Apps and stuff.
Why would he stop wearing it?
What is the unsubsidized price for an Android phone with 32GB of flash in the same class as an iPhone 4? (is there one?)
What about the price for the unsubsidized iPod touch or iPad? Show me a device comparable to an iPod touch (high res display, front & rear-facing cameras, etc.) that sells for far less than $229.
Are you comparing an unsubsidized iPhone to a subsidized Android or something?
I also posted $229 for an iPod or $499 for an iPad, both unsubsidized--care to cough up some comparable devices from competitors that are way cheaper?
You have no fucking clue--Apple has a huge hardware and software design team and they *donate* a ton of code to FOSS.
I think the definition of expensive on this forum is whatever price Apple charges. Expensive in this space used to mean $600, now you can get a spectacular top of the line iPhone for $299 and less capable units (new) for down to $99.
$229 for a very nice iPod touch or $499 for an iPad? Seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Apple's strategy isn't to charge extra to artificially inflate their brand, but rather to make high quality devices and charge as little as they can for them and still sustain their business and large R & D expense.
take your time.
...then men would consider mastery in chess at the same level as mastery in knitting. We wouldn't care.
Women are naturally superior at all sorts of things which we have defined away as trivial. For the most part, I suspect that most women don't care about mastery in chess.
China does the manufacturing--but the chips are designed in the US by US companies. Those companies chose to locate their manufacturing in China because labor is so cheap there.
None of this addresses the main point, that Linpack isn't a particularly useful metric.
If you honestly think that the US can't cable together thousands of US GPU's in order to set yet another meaningless Linpack milestone, then you are not that bright.
What if 100,000 Scientologists shut down Wikipedia? is that still activism?
Yes, because the question isn't whether the action is "activism" (clearly it is), it is whether that activism is good or bad. That's up to individuals to decide.
My opinion: some of the stuff on Wikileaks should be publicly available and some of it shouldn't (I think the world can live without knowing
I think that there should be enforceable laws against releasing classified information--the internet may not make that practical anymore (remains to be seen). There should be just enough of a legal and practical deterrent that it requires effort and sacrifice in order to release classified info--so that it will only be done when enough people feel strongly that it is a moral imperative (remember, people get arrested at sit-ins and they do it anyway, but only when they really care about the cause).
What's the difference?
Oh right, this was reported on the internet, so it is relevant here.
where all employees are rewarded exactly in proportion to their value?
Do you have any idea the thankless heroics that school teachers, lifeguards, EMTs, nurses, firefighters, etc., etc., pull everyday?
IT has got to be the whiniest fucking field out there.
or something.
The patents in question were related to implementing a global standard for wireless communication (GSM) which Nokia has an obligation to offer on RAND terms to all comers. Nokia insisted that, in order for Apple to implement this global standard, that Nokia get full access to Apple's patents on things that had nothing to do with standards for anything--like the entire UI for the iPhone. Does that sound fair to you? If you want to build a phone then we are literally allowed to make identical clones to the iPhone and sell it with a Nokia brand.