Do you really think the average office worker cares about examining mount points or finding out how many USER handles a process is using? That's why Microsoft doesn't ship any of that with Windows, and they probably never will. More importantly, I'd rather have a third party write these kinds of tools. They're not limited by what marketing and support think is a good idea to ship. If Microsoft made them they probably wouldn't be as useful - not to mention everyone would whine about how they're evil because they're killing a niche.
As long as these tools are available, I could care less where I have to get them from or what I couldn't do before I install them. Duh.
You just know that he would have demanded that Linux be called 'GNU/Linux' and so on. He's known for turning down speaking engagements from people who refuse to do that, too.
I beginning to think Richard Stallman is techdom's Michael Jackson. Once brilliant, his past work is appreciated by all... but he currently exists in a vacuum where he lives off his dwindling reputation and fawning attention of a few creepy adoring fans while everyone else just scratches their heads and wonder what the hell happened to him.
These always make me smile. Microsoft, the big bad outsourcer. You're going to move IBM as well? IBM is the largest consumer of L1 visas in the US. These are much more insidious than the evil H1-Bs, I suggest reading up on them.
I don't know if you've ever interacted with IBM - specifically IBM Global Services (aka IBM India), but lately I've been thinking that the only American left in that company is Palmisano. Everyone else has to be either Indian or Chinese. I jest - just slightly.
While you're at it, send all the large financial and services companies in the US. Heck, just transfer the entire Fortune 1000 over there. That will take care of your problems.
Oh and BTW, I love the "Ballmer was at it again" bit here. Any chance of the submitter actually mentioning which CEOs have lobbied Washington for increased quotas and more relaxed requirements? Naaah, that doesn't sell any ad impressions nowadays.
Virtual PC was and always will be a desktop solution. It's what MS uses for XP mode in Vista. Virtual Server is the big box equivalent (although I suppose it's based off VPC).
several apps written by Apple itself don't follow standard UI conventions
Not following interface guidelines in itself is quite common on both Windows and OS X, but that usually has nothing to do with the lack of a unified platform UI.
The Windows situation is even worse: there are several native toolkits there
You're confusing the shell's control library with the stack used to access it. On Windows when you write a.NET, WTL, MFC or plain Win32 application, you're still targeting the Windows shell native controls.
These are the same analysts whose opinion is dismissed when the say anything positive about Microsoft, but when they say something worth spinning negatively, it makes the Slashdot front page.
An OEM copy of Windows XP Pro goes for about $40 these days. I don't know where you got that $70 figure, unless you're talking about the OEM version that you get on TigerDirect, which no actual OEM uses.
Installing the average Linux distro is no longer hard either, and hasn't been for a few years, but that doesn't stop idiots from claiming it is when they're trying to come up with arguments against using that OS. Funny how that works, eh?
BSODs are caused by bad drivers and/or bad hardware, nothing more. Fix that and they go away. It's that simple. I'd feel stupid if I claimed my car sucks because I was putting in the wrong transmission fluid, so to fix the problem I just bought another car.
Did they also push an evil midget through teh intertubes that forced you to code in C# at gunpoint? I must have missed that the last time I ran Windows Update.
not very successful proprietary virtual machine and framework
So.NET is not successful? Can you please explain why, exactly, a technology that counts millions of active developers and thousands of products is not "successful"? What exactly constitutes success, in your book?
has been partially abandoned by its own masters
Uh, abandoned how, exactly? Please be specific, you were modded up for your comment so I assume you have more than just a Slashdot-style FOSS advocacy blurb here to back it up.
You might recall Microsoft spent like three years rewriting parts of Windows in.NET
You might recall that they did indeed rewrite parts of Windows in.NET, like the management console subsystem and several tools like PowerShell. Were you expecting them to rewrite the whole thing in C#, and is that why you claim.NET is not successful? And please, I'd like to see some evidence that they didn't do something they claimed they were going to do in Vista with.NET, because as far as I remember they did exactly what they said they would - nothing more and nothing less.
Maybe we can learn from their very expensive learning experience?
Maybe you can cut down on the impressive-sounding hyperbole a bit. I feel liked I just walked into the Slashdot Spin Zone(TM) here.
So flocktard, let's see all the content you shared without receiving compensation of any kind and don't really mind - in fact it made you positively happy to do so. Let's see it.
I don't think anyone would blame Microsoft for user-installed malware.
People do, in fact. They simply lump those into the "Windows is insecure" mantra. Statistically the number of actual vulnerabilities that have not been patched and have an exploit in the wild (which would be a good example of security breakdown) are rare.
But like many a Windows trojan/malware that relied on user intervention to get its foot in the door, I don't see why this cannot be blamed on Apple's "sloppy code" (to draw a parallel with the same things that get blamed on Microsoft).
A Unix-like system with a root account is not superior to an NT box, even when used by someone who runs under a non-privileged account but cannot be bothered to exercise some damn common sense wrt what they put on their computers.
As their numbers grow, I expect masses of stupid Apple users (probably the same stupid Windows users that migrated to OS X to be "safe") to do things like enter their root password into browser add-ons because they are asked for it, and download "cool" screensavers and pirated software like this, loaded with malware. Membership in botnets cannot be far behind at that point.
And then when Apple machines get hit by exploits to vulnerabilities that have been patched for three months which users can't be bothered to install updates for, all will be good.
Slashdot Mirror
How these tools are used and % of userbase that cares about them:
Windows:
- <- Developers
------------------- <- Everyone else
Linux:
------------------- <- Developers
- <- Everyone else
Do you really think the average office worker cares about examining mount points or finding out how many USER handles a process is using? That's why Microsoft doesn't ship any of that with Windows, and they probably never will. More importantly, I'd rather have a third party write these kinds of tools. They're not limited by what marketing and support think is a good idea to ship. If Microsoft made them they probably wouldn't be as useful - not to mention everyone would whine about how they're evil because they're killing a niche.
As long as these tools are available, I could care less where I have to get them from or what I couldn't do before I install them. Duh.
You just know that he would have demanded that Linux be called 'GNU/Linux' and so on. He's known for turning down speaking engagements from people who refuse to do that, too.
I beginning to think Richard Stallman is techdom's Michael Jackson. Once brilliant, his past work is appreciated by all... but he currently exists in a vacuum where he lives off his dwindling reputation and fawning attention of a few creepy adoring fans while everyone else just scratches their heads and wonder what the hell happened to him.
If we missed something that big about to hit Jupiter what else are we missing? I hope to hell that's not an impact feature.
And where the hell is Bruce Willis??
I have no idea what you just said.
These always make me smile. Microsoft, the big bad outsourcer. You're going to move IBM as well? IBM is the largest consumer of L1 visas in the US. These are much more insidious than the evil H1-Bs, I suggest reading up on them.
I don't know if you've ever interacted with IBM - specifically IBM Global Services (aka IBM India), but lately I've been thinking that the only American left in that company is Palmisano. Everyone else has to be either Indian or Chinese. I jest - just slightly.
While you're at it, send all the large financial and services companies in the US. Heck, just transfer the entire Fortune 1000 over there. That will take care of your problems.
Oh and BTW, I love the "Ballmer was at it again" bit here. Any chance of the submitter actually mentioning which CEOs have lobbied Washington for increased quotas and more relaxed requirements? Naaah, that doesn't sell any ad impressions nowadays.
Virtual PC was and always will be a desktop solution. It's what MS uses for XP mode in Vista. Virtual Server is the big box equivalent (although I suppose it's based off VPC).
several apps written by Apple itself don't follow standard UI conventions
Not following interface guidelines in itself is quite common on both Windows and OS X, but that usually has nothing to do with the lack of a unified platform UI.
The Windows situation is even worse: there are several native toolkits there
You're confusing the shell's control library with the stack used to access it. On Windows when you write a .NET, WTL, MFC or plain Win32 application, you're still targeting the Windows shell native controls.
When has [anyone] ever released an OS that wasn't a support nightmare [when it's actually put in the hands of users]?
All better now?
These are the same analysts whose opinion is dismissed when the say anything positive about Microsoft, but when they say something worth spinning negatively, it makes the Slashdot front page.
An OEM copy of Windows XP Pro goes for about $40 these days. I don't know where you got that $70 figure, unless you're talking about the OEM version that you get on TigerDirect, which no actual OEM uses.
Installing the average Linux distro is no longer hard either, and hasn't been for a few years, but that doesn't stop idiots from claiming it is when they're trying to come up with arguments against using that OS. Funny how that works, eh?
BSODs are caused by bad drivers and/or bad hardware, nothing more. Fix that and they go away. It's that simple. I'd feel stupid if I claimed my car sucks because I was putting in the wrong transmission fluid, so to fix the problem I just bought another car.
the Blue Screen of Death
1996 called, he wants his meme back.
Did they also push an evil midget through teh intertubes that forced you to code in C# at gunpoint? I must have missed that the last time I ran Windows Update.
Java isn't as an independent technology.
Independent of whom? Sun Microsystems? And have you established that absolutely none of the Java source infringes on anyone's patents?
not very successful proprietary virtual machine and framework
So .NET is not successful? Can you please explain why, exactly, a technology that counts millions of active developers and thousands of products is not "successful"? What exactly constitutes success, in your book?
has been partially abandoned by its own masters
Uh, abandoned how, exactly? Please be specific, you were modded up for your comment so I assume you have more than just a Slashdot-style FOSS advocacy blurb here to back it up.
You might recall Microsoft spent like three years rewriting parts of Windows in .NET
You might recall that they did indeed rewrite parts of Windows in .NET, like the management console subsystem and several tools like PowerShell. Were you expecting them to rewrite the whole thing in C#, and is that why you claim .NET is not successful? And please, I'd like to see some evidence that they didn't do something they claimed they were going to do in Vista with .NET, because as far as I remember they did exactly what they said they would - nothing more and nothing less.
Maybe we can learn from their very expensive learning experience?
Maybe you can cut down on the impressive-sounding hyperbole a bit. I feel liked I just walked into the Slashdot Spin Zone(TM) here.
So flocktard, let's see all the content you shared without receiving compensation of any kind and don't really mind - in fact it made you positively happy to do so. Let's see it.
I took your post, replaced "KDE" with "Vista" and had a good chuckle.
I don't think anyone would blame Microsoft for user-installed malware.
People do, in fact. They simply lump those into the "Windows is insecure" mantra. Statistically the number of actual vulnerabilities that have not been patched and have an exploit in the wild (which would be a good example of security breakdown) are rare.
But like many a Windows trojan/malware that relied on user intervention to get its foot in the door, I don't see why this cannot be blamed on Apple's "sloppy code" (to draw a parallel with the same things that get blamed on Microsoft).
A Unix-like system with a root account is not superior to an NT box, even when used by someone who runs under a non-privileged account but cannot be bothered to exercise some damn common sense wrt what they put on their computers.
As their numbers grow, I expect masses of stupid Apple users (probably the same stupid Windows users that migrated to OS X to be "safe") to do things like enter their root password into browser add-ons because they are asked for it, and download "cool" screensavers and pirated software like this, loaded with malware. Membership in botnets cannot be far behind at that point.
And then when Apple machines get hit by exploits to vulnerabilities that have been patched for three months which users can't be bothered to install updates for, all will be good.
And guess what OS will be next up.
That's funny, the first time I saw KDE I thought of Windows 98.
Interesting. Thank you for the explanation.
This also ignores how such a body could form, certainly beyond my creativity to imagine.
Yeah, I suppose that's the main problem.
Really, just because of the diameter? I admit that sounds counter-intuitive to me but then I'm not a physicist.
The tag-substitution gobbldy-gook encourages all kinds of bad page-development practices.
That "gobbldy-gook" generates valid XHTML, if you tell it to.
templating taglibs seen in JSP
Bwahaha... sorry. There are better templating engines than ASP.NET 2.0, but JSP is not one of them - not in a million years.
Obviously because of growth through the years. The same file in 2001 was pretty much empty as well.