Find an Amiga or Atari ST Emulator and look for Warhead. It's a game Glyn Williams made before moving on to make I-War. It's primitive by today's standards but the gameplay is a lot of fun.
If you do get it working, be sure to tell us. We have no objection to people running it on BSD and we'd quite happily link it on the official release thread.
By G2 they probably mean the PowerPC 604. (which was the predecessor of the G3 therefore G2). G3 hasn`t yet made it to the classic amiga (boards are on the way though)
Anyone who's ever done serious work in embedded systems know the kernel source is absolutely essential for debugging, not only the application but also the kernel.
Interesting comment considering that QNX have been in the embedded field for 20 years! Not everything in the world has to be open source to work. By not releasing the source QNX hope to keep the kernel from fragmenting. Linus does pretty much the same thing in a different way.
I wish people wouldn`t confuse QNX 4 (which is on the demo disk) and QNX RtP. The newest release is QNX RtP which is based on the newer Neutrino kernel.
The idea of QNX RtP was to take the stuff that made QNX 4 great and make it into a scaleable desktop/handheld OS.
And I managed to get through all that without mentioning the amiga community:)
Interesting to note that although many people have commented on the Amiga`s ram disk not one (as far as I noticed) pointed out the main reason I still want one.
The Amiga`s system for handling preferences was one of the most elegent I`ve ever seen. On boot up the amiga would copy all the.pref files from a directory on the hard drive (or floppy disk for that matter) called envarc: into a directory on the ram disk called env: If later you changed a preference (e.g screen mode or your backdrop etc) you would be offered the choice of saving the preference (write change to Envarc:) canceling or using (write the change to Env:)
The upshot of this was that it allowed you to change preferences until the next reboot when your old preferences would return.
As far as I know AmigaOS is the only OS that can do it (at least out of the major OS`s)
That was cause diskdoctor thought it had done a good job of getting back the data on the disk. More usually it meant that you needed Jesus to get your data back.
Maybe in america but definatly not in europe. The Video Toaster never even made it over to europe (where the majority of the Amiga userbase was situated).
What killed amiga was the fact that Commodore was run by idiots who allowed the PC clone side of their business to haemorage money at an astounding rate while not marketing their one good product (the amiga).
Okay. Reasons why the New OS isn`t being ported to the 68060
1) It`s not finished yet
2) There are more important chips to port it to first.
3) Motorola ASKED Tao NOT to port their OS to the 68k series.
That was a company under different management though.
I was wondering how long it would be before I heard the first ignorant Let it die in peace comment.
If you don`t like Amiga don`t comment on it. Ignore it.
There is a difference between Platform independence at the source level (Like Solaris, NetBSD WindowsNT etc) and platform independence at the binary level. Can you see your average computer user recompiling an app so he can use it on his PC and a Sega DreamCast? I doubt it. But if it`s just a case of popping a CD with the same application on and having it run on both I can see that being very popular.
Second Java is slow (at least so far it has been) that`s why it`s never taken off. Not cause people didn`t want it. Remember Sun sued MS because they deliberatly tried to cripple Java`s Write Once Run Everywhere philosophy precisely because they saw that one day it could be a threat to them.
What do they do? A smart compnay would build on Amiga's strenths: bring the existing architecture up to techological speed and harness the power of the existing user network by open-sourcing the OS
But you can`t bring the hardware up to spec. It`s just too old. We`re talking about stuff from 1992 remember! All you can do is to bring the OS up to spec which is what Amiga are doing. If they choose to do it in a proprietary manner that`s their choice. The Community instead of tinkering with the OS can then spend their time writing applications that will make people want to buy the new Amiga
It`s not the machine that is being reborn (although there is new hardware on it`s way). It`s the OS.
BTW Sony own a stake in Tao. Don`t be suprised if the PS2 can be upgraded to use Amiga`s new OS. Failing that there`s always the PS3
If you want to live in ignorance why don`t you just register and tick the exclude amiga stories box.
Why should the rest of the world have to live in ignorance just cause you don`t like something?
Suppose you took an existing kernal and wrote an OS on top of it that was based on the amiga. I`m not talking about an emulator but a full fledged OS that is now very different from the Linux it started out as. It ran old amiga games and applications as if it was a real amiga. Would that qualify as an Amiga?
What if it also stood for some of the values that the old Amiga stood for in that it was a Multimedia OS with a very small footprint?
The reason that the Amiga name is being used here is that basically that is the situation that exists. I think the new OS will be more Amiga than Elate and therefore deserves the amiga name.
The reasoning behind that comment holds for most OS`s but doesn`t hold for Amiga. Windows holds sway over other OS`s because of the sheer size of it`s user base and the amount of software available for it.
Other OS`s find it hard to break MS`s market because users won`t swop from a platform that everyone uses to a less known one with less software and fewer users (thereby making it harder to find software for your platform)
However although Amiga`s new offering is an OS in its own right it can also be run on top of another OS. This means that potential users don`t need to dual boot (something which average everyday users hate). This means that Amiga does stand a chance of breaking into the market.
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Find an Amiga or Atari ST Emulator and look for Warhead. It's a game Glyn Williams made before moving on to make I-War. It's primitive by today's standards but the gameplay is a lot of fun.
You have no idea how many of the Diaspora team would love to do one of those.
We actually choose the name before we knew that track name though. It's a complete coincidence.
BSG is the story of a diaspora, and we ourselves had split from Beyond the Red Line so it seemed like the perfect name.
If you do get it working, be sure to tell us. We have no objection to people running it on BSD and we'd quite happily link it on the official release thread.
What resolution are you running it in? I could see that error being generated if you run in less than 1024x768.
Otherwise I'll need more data.
Actually nothing except the code was shared. The assets all went to one team or the other.
By G2 they probably mean the PowerPC 604. (which was the predecessor of the G3 therefore G2). G3 hasn`t yet made it to the classic amiga (boards are on the way though)
Anyone who's ever done serious work in embedded systems know the kernel source is absolutely essential for debugging, not only the application but also the kernel. Interesting comment considering that QNX have been in the embedded field for 20 years! Not everything in the world has to be open source to work. By not releasing the source QNX hope to keep the kernel from fragmenting. Linus does pretty much the same thing in a different way.
I wish people wouldn`t confuse QNX 4 (which is on the demo disk) and QNX RtP. The newest release is QNX RtP which is based on the newer Neutrino kernel. The idea of QNX RtP was to take the stuff that made QNX 4 great and make it into a scaleable desktop/handheld OS. And I managed to get through all that without mentioning the amiga community :)
Interesting to note that although many people have commented on the Amiga`s ram disk not one (as far as I noticed) pointed out the main reason I still want one. The Amiga`s system for handling preferences was one of the most elegent I`ve ever seen. On boot up the amiga would copy all the .pref files from a directory on the hard drive (or floppy disk for that matter) called envarc: into a directory on the ram disk called env: If later you changed a preference (e.g screen mode or your backdrop etc) you would be offered the choice of saving the preference (write change to Envarc:) canceling or using (write the change to Env:)
The upshot of this was that it allowed you to change preferences until the next reboot when your old preferences would return.
As far as I know AmigaOS is the only OS that can do it (at least out of the major OS`s)
That was cause diskdoctor thought it had done a good job of getting back the data on the disk. More usually it meant that you needed Jesus to get your data back.
Maybe in america but definatly not in europe. The Video Toaster never even made it over to europe (where the majority of the Amiga userbase was situated). What killed amiga was the fact that Commodore was run by idiots who allowed the PC clone side of their business to haemorage money at an astounding rate while not marketing their one good product (the amiga).
Okay. Reasons why the New OS isn`t being ported to the 68060 1) It`s not finished yet 2) There are more important chips to port it to first. 3) Motorola ASKED Tao NOT to port their OS to the 68k series.
That was a company under different management though. I was wondering how long it would be before I heard the first ignorant Let it die in peace comment. If you don`t like Amiga don`t comment on it. Ignore it.
There is a difference between Platform independence at the source level (Like Solaris, NetBSD WindowsNT etc) and platform independence at the binary level. Can you see your average computer user recompiling an app so he can use it on his PC and a Sega DreamCast? I doubt it. But if it`s just a case of popping a CD with the same application on and having it run on both I can see that being very popular. Second Java is slow (at least so far it has been) that`s why it`s never taken off. Not cause people didn`t want it. Remember Sun sued MS because they deliberatly tried to cripple Java`s Write Once Run Everywhere philosophy precisely because they saw that one day it could be a threat to them.
Someone should do his homework before just assuming that there is no difference between the AmigaOS of 1992 and the AmigaOS under development now.
Again Someone doesn`t do their research. AmigaOS 3.5 was released last year and is still on sale.
Actually OSOpinion says you can take their stuff as long as you link back to them so you`re more than welcome to post it.
What do they do? A smart compnay would build on Amiga's strenths: bring the existing architecture up to techological speed and harness the power of the existing user network by open-sourcing the OS But you can`t bring the hardware up to spec. It`s just too old. We`re talking about stuff from 1992 remember! All you can do is to bring the OS up to spec which is what Amiga are doing. If they choose to do it in a proprietary manner that`s their choice. The Community instead of tinkering with the OS can then spend their time writing applications that will make people want to buy the new Amiga
It`s not the machine that is being reborn (although there is new hardware on it`s way). It`s the OS. BTW Sony own a stake in Tao. Don`t be suprised if the PS2 can be upgraded to use Amiga`s new OS. Failing that there`s always the PS3
But the amiga was a pioneer in the fields of shareware and Public Domain software which is only a short stretch from open source.
If you want to live in ignorance why don`t you just register and tick the exclude amiga stories box. Why should the rest of the world have to live in ignorance just cause you don`t like something?
If you don`t follow amiga closely why do you make comparisons with Java of it?
Suppose you took an existing kernal and wrote an OS on top of it that was based on the amiga. I`m not talking about an emulator but a full fledged OS that is now very different from the Linux it started out as. It ran old amiga games and applications as if it was a real amiga. Would that qualify as an Amiga? What if it also stood for some of the values that the old Amiga stood for in that it was a Multimedia OS with a very small footprint? The reason that the Amiga name is being used here is that basically that is the situation that exists. I think the new OS will be more Amiga than Elate and therefore deserves the amiga name.
The reasoning behind that comment holds for most OS`s but doesn`t hold for Amiga. Windows holds sway over other OS`s because of the sheer size of it`s user base and the amount of software available for it. Other OS`s find it hard to break MS`s market because users won`t swop from a platform that everyone uses to a less known one with less software and fewer users (thereby making it harder to find software for your platform) However although Amiga`s new offering is an OS in its own right it can also be run on top of another OS. This means that potential users don`t need to dual boot (something which average everyday users hate). This means that Amiga does stand a chance of breaking into the market.