I held tight. They wanted me to know more, and thought I knew more, but I didnt. I gave no names, and only spoke without miranda rights ( which REALLY pissed them off, as they knew I called a lawyer). They tried to play the game of "you arent a suspect and have nothing to hide". Eventually they figured out that I wasnt the guy helping the guy, I was just a guy in the dorm. I was scared as hell in front of the grand jury though.
A fun little bit that would be stupid in a hollywood script... I fell asleep in my house watching tv, and apparently someone else who felt like playing with things that go boom decided to throw a device of some sort in some bushes to get rid of it. Happened to be about 2 blocks from my house, and I had no witness or alibi. They really leaned on me, but then I was sick of it and lost my cool and yelled at them. I had already told them how I would have disposed of things, and how I think some of the things they were interested were disposed of,and none of those ideas were as stupid as walk two blocks from my door and throw it in the bushes. They backed down... months later I met the guy who had done it at a party and his little bomb was nothing like the ones that my friend had made. stupid
They also called someone I knew who had found a dog. His answering machine said " if you are calling about the lost black dog..." . ATF was conviced this was code speak. They wanted proof of the dog, so they stopped by to see it, and then they were cool enough to take it to the vet as it needed help and we were college kids with no cash. Still a bunch of dicks for pushing on that issue though.
Will things move faster if a modification is put in place that is provided by Boeing than a modification that is put in place by Boeing that is supplied from a third party. It seems that some parts are going to have to be re-worked, and the scope of the replacement will determine the re-certification more than the source of the mods. We can also call into question the rigor of the original certification process at this point.
I was threatened years ago by the ATF. They had nothing on me, and we both knew it, but once the feds are knocking on your door, you are in big trouble. My crime was knowing someone who was playing with small black powder pipe bombs. They tried to threaten me with ten charges at ten years a piece, for each explosion that I could be linked to. This included an accessory charge that the actual person doing the mayhem wasnt going to get, because you cant be an accessory to yourself. This is when I knew they were just playing to scare me ( it worked however , tough to play chicken with that much of your life). These 10 sentences would have been served concurrently, so my max time would have been ten years. The volume of charges would have just looked bad on my resume.
The power doesnt lie with the voter. We only vote for the politicians, we dont get to vote for who is in power. The people in power are smart enough to not allow their position to rely on the whims of the population.
I am curious about this also. It seems that if Iran felt like launching a surprise missile like this that we would hear about the entire Israeli military being scrambled. Or , all the interested parties were aware of the test and dont really feel like giving Iran credit.
I think those went away during the failed ATT buyout. I recently dealt with contract renewals/new phones with them, and the only cheaper version with your own phone is to buy monthly access to their network. They seemed happy to do that, but it wasnt the same plan as the contracts with a discount. We ended up signing a contract for my wife, as that had the same eventual cost for the phone, they essentially financed it with no interest. The $500 upfront wasnt worth the small savings that the monthly pre-paids could offer. We rolled my no-contract phone onto her new plan as a second line, and cut our previous bills in half.
i did mention one though... scientific questioning. When a claim is made, many people as to see the base data, and that is frequently hidden. The debunking on message boards happens on both sides of the issue, and the regurgitation also happens on both sides. The facts are constantly obscured through a level of loyalty that reflects religion more than science. Both sides of this debate always question the funding of any study, and rightly question the fact that the ones paying for a study seem to have findings that reflect a benefit to the sponsor. I also mentioned the folks that dont care about facts, even called them loony tunes. This doesnt mean that anyone who wants detail to facts should be called names and dismissed as a fool. The real fun thing about this, is that I havent declared my thoughts on AGW, or climate change, or GW, or GHG... any topics... my comments are strictly related to the process of not allowing discussion at all.
to give credit, the responses that were actually written out were reasoned and decent, and could actually allow room for a conversation. It is funny that the knee jerk reaction that I was mocking occured.
I agree with this exactly. The problem I have is the frequency that anyone who raises a question is labeled as a denier. There are a lot of good points that get glossed over because the points are being addressed to a non-existent group identity with a large helping of name calling. There are many different beliefs that dont swear by AGW, and some of which are loony tune deniers, and some are pointing out scientific questioning.
I like to read through all of these comments, replacing "denialist" or "denier" with "poo-poo head", then again with "person" . The arguments can be vastly different this way.
there is no difference between being a skeptic and a denialist. Any questioning of the presented idea makes the questioner a denialist. In any situation, if a person is less fervent in their belief and anger about warming, then that person is a denialist. This makes it true, that any time two people are in a room together,no matter how strongly pro-AGW they both are, one of them is a denialist.
The disease could have been around forever, but would not have mattered as the cows were wandering around eating grass, not other cow's heads. The feed lot mentality of "protein is protein" and trying to gain as much weight as possible as quickly as possible has produced many side effects, the transfer of mad cow being a fairly obvious one.
this is true, but there is a big difference in the monitored stores and the bootleg stores that people are getting infected in. The google owned store could have junk inserted from a bad compiler, where the chinese free stores have intentional malware inserted.
This is a simple case of "just because you can, doesnt mean you should". I like the OPTION of loading apps from anywhere. I also pay attention to what gets installed and where. I turn off the alternate installation locations unless I am actively installing something. The people who want pay apps for free just pay a price that isnt money, and their stupidity should have no impact on my ability to be allowed to use my device as I want. No need to force your draconian bliss on the rest of the planet.
to me this just proves that the anti-virus vendors are busy making malware to be detected. Microsoft is busy making other things, and isnt spending time making shit to prove that their AV is good enough.
hahahah i am sure if we saw the contracts that the money was made on delivery of the device, not some long running concept of small profit ( or loss ) on the hardware delivery, but updates, service, and maintenance fees (nearly pure profit) extending over the next 5 or 10 years.
A bigger element than the planes not being blown up is the nothing else being blown up. If the terrorists were as determined as we are beig told, then why havent they been thwarted by our awesome new security doodads and moved on to other things. I am sure that in a few minutes I can think of at least 15 places where people can be successfully killed in large numbers that could have ripples through the economy. As these havent been blown up, then the terrorists as presented arent out there.
Unfortunately the TSA knows all this and is working to protect those other places so that the lack of successful terrorist plots remains at the hands of our saviors in the TSA, and no one will discover that the narrrative is bullshit.
a couple of times I called back the number they left on my voicemail. I did this if I had nothing to do that evening. I would try to find out who they were and what their address was so I could make things official, but they never would give any information that could give me any legal standing. I basically trolled them by wasting their time as I would let these calls go until they got sick of me and hung up, and then I would just call back. Didnt do anything to stop them, but it could eat into the small profit they were going to get from any payments.
exactly. I even considered my own public shaming campaign, but then I would be breaking the laws by publicizing the debtors obligations, and they could sue me!
For a long time I had a deadbeat using my phone number while obtaining lines of credit. The collectors would start calling and asking for her, and there was nothing that I could say to them to convince them that I did not know her, she did not live at my house, had never lived at my house, etc. It looks like lies no matter what, and these arent people who are willing to actually follow the laws about harrasment. They bothered me enough that I was ready to hunt her down for them.
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I held tight. They wanted me to know more, and thought I knew more, but I didnt. I gave no names, and only spoke without miranda rights ( which REALLY pissed them off, as they knew I called a lawyer). They tried to play the game of "you arent a suspect and have nothing to hide". Eventually they figured out that I wasnt the guy helping the guy, I was just a guy in the dorm. I was scared as hell in front of the grand jury though.
A fun little bit that would be stupid in a hollywood script... I fell asleep in my house watching tv, and apparently someone else who felt like playing with things that go boom decided to throw a device of some sort in some bushes to get rid of it. Happened to be about 2 blocks from my house, and I had no witness or alibi. They really leaned on me, but then I was sick of it and lost my cool and yelled at them. I had already told them how I would have disposed of things, and how I think some of the things they were interested were disposed of,and none of those ideas were as stupid as walk two blocks from my door and throw it in the bushes. They backed down ... months later I met the guy who had done it at a party and his little bomb was nothing like the ones that my friend had made. stupid
They also called someone I knew who had found a dog. His answering machine said " if you are calling about the lost black dog..." . ATF was conviced this was code speak. They wanted proof of the dog, so they stopped by to see it, and then they were cool enough to take it to the vet as it needed help and we were college kids with no cash. Still a bunch of dicks for pushing on that issue though.
so supervillians really do include self-destruct buttons on their cool gear!
Will things move faster if a modification is put in place that is provided by Boeing than a modification that is put in place by Boeing that is supplied from a third party. It seems that some parts are going to have to be re-worked, and the scope of the replacement will determine the re-certification more than the source of the mods. We can also call into question the rigor of the original certification process at this point.
I have a strong feeling that Mr Musk has one of those too...
I was threatened years ago by the ATF. They had nothing on me, and we both knew it, but once the feds are knocking on your door, you are in big trouble. My crime was knowing someone who was playing with small black powder pipe bombs. They tried to threaten me with ten charges at ten years a piece, for each explosion that I could be linked to. This included an accessory charge that the actual person doing the mayhem wasnt going to get, because you cant be an accessory to yourself. This is when I knew they were just playing to scare me ( it worked however , tough to play chicken with that much of your life). These 10 sentences would have been served concurrently, so my max time would have been ten years. The volume of charges would have just looked bad on my resume.
The power doesnt lie with the voter. We only vote for the politicians, we dont get to vote for who is in power. The people in power are smart enough to not allow their position to rely on the whims of the population.
I am curious about this also. It seems that if Iran felt like launching a surprise missile like this that we would hear about the entire Israeli military being scrambled. Or , all the interested parties were aware of the test and dont really feel like giving Iran credit.
I think those went away during the failed ATT buyout. I recently dealt with contract renewals/new phones with them, and the only cheaper version with your own phone is to buy monthly access to their network. They seemed happy to do that, but it wasnt the same plan as the contracts with a discount. We ended up signing a contract for my wife, as that had the same eventual cost for the phone, they essentially financed it with no interest. The $500 upfront wasnt worth the small savings that the monthly pre-paids could offer. We rolled my no-contract phone onto her new plan as a second line, and cut our previous bills in half.
i did mention one though... scientific questioning. When a claim is made, many people as to see the base data, and that is frequently hidden. The debunking on message boards happens on both sides of the issue, and the regurgitation also happens on both sides. The facts are constantly obscured through a level of loyalty that reflects religion more than science. Both sides of this debate always question the funding of any study, and rightly question the fact that the ones paying for a study seem to have findings that reflect a benefit to the sponsor. I also mentioned the folks that dont care about facts, even called them loony tunes. This doesnt mean that anyone who wants detail to facts should be called names and dismissed as a fool. The real fun thing about this, is that I havent declared my thoughts on AGW, or climate change, or GW, or GHG... any topics... my comments are strictly related to the process of not allowing discussion at all.
to give credit, the responses that were actually written out were reasoned and decent, and could actually allow room for a conversation. It is funny that the knee jerk reaction that I was mocking occured.
I agree with this exactly. The problem I have is the frequency that anyone who raises a question is labeled as a denier. There are a lot of good points that get glossed over because the points are being addressed to a non-existent group identity with a large helping of name calling. There are many different beliefs that dont swear by AGW, and some of which are loony tune deniers, and some are pointing out scientific questioning.
I like to read through all of these comments, replacing "denialist" or "denier" with "poo-poo head", then again with "person" . The arguments can be vastly different this way.
skeptic and scientist are not synonyms for denialist
there is no difference between being a skeptic and a denialist. Any questioning of the presented idea makes the questioner a denialist. In any situation, if a person is less fervent in their belief and anger about warming, then that person is a denialist. This makes it true, that any time two people are in a room together,no matter how strongly pro-AGW they both are, one of them is a denialist.
that price makes the issue obvious. I a ball of paper the same size would cost more, then whatever you are purchasing isnt food.
The disease could have been around forever, but would not have mattered as the cows were wandering around eating grass, not other cow's heads. The feed lot mentality of "protein is protein" and trying to gain as much weight as possible as quickly as possible has produced many side effects, the transfer of mad cow being a fairly obvious one.
I keep a shaker on the table with the salt and pepper. I couldnt imagine bacon without a sprinkling of extra antibiotics and steroids.
this is true, but there is a big difference in the monitored stores and the bootleg stores that people are getting infected in. The google owned store could have junk inserted from a bad compiler, where the chinese free stores have intentional malware inserted.
This is a simple case of "just because you can, doesnt mean you should". I like the OPTION of loading apps from anywhere. I also pay attention to what gets installed and where. I turn off the alternate installation locations unless I am actively installing something. The people who want pay apps for free just pay a price that isnt money, and their stupidity should have no impact on my ability to be allowed to use my device as I want. No need to force your draconian bliss on the rest of the planet.
to me this just proves that the anti-virus vendors are busy making malware to be detected. Microsoft is busy making other things, and isnt spending time making shit to prove that their AV is good enough.
hahahah
i am sure if we saw the contracts that the money was made on delivery of the device, not some long running concept of small profit ( or loss ) on the hardware delivery, but updates, service, and maintenance fees (nearly pure profit) extending over the next 5 or 10 years.
A bigger element than the planes not being blown up is the nothing else being blown up. If the terrorists were as determined as we are beig told, then why havent they been thwarted by our awesome new security doodads and moved on to other things. I am sure that in a few minutes I can think of at least 15 places where people can be successfully killed in large numbers that could have ripples through the economy. As these havent been blown up, then the terrorists as presented arent out there.
Unfortunately the TSA knows all this and is working to protect those other places so that the lack of successful terrorist plots remains at the hands of our saviors in the TSA, and no one will discover that the narrrative is bullshit.
a couple of times I called back the number they left on my voicemail. I did this if I had nothing to do that evening. I would try to find out who they were and what their address was so I could make things official, but they never would give any information that could give me any legal standing. I basically trolled them by wasting their time as I would let these calls go until they got sick of me and hung up, and then I would just call back. Didnt do anything to stop them, but it could eat into the small profit they were going to get from any payments.
exactly. I even considered my own public shaming campaign, but then I would be breaking the laws by publicizing the debtors obligations, and they could sue me!
For a long time I had a deadbeat using my phone number while obtaining lines of credit. The collectors would start calling and asking for her, and there was nothing that I could say to them to convince them that I did not know her, she did not live at my house, had never lived at my house, etc. It looks like lies no matter what, and these arent people who are willing to actually follow the laws about harrasment. They bothered me enough that I was ready to hunt her down for them.
you think the police care?