Very little is sterilized - most stuff is sanitized. Generally anything which touches the patient is sterile; the rest is sanitary. By their very nature most if not all ORs are impossible to sterilize. There are some cheap and effective measures which can be used but each also has its own drawbacks and gotchas, among them live steam, UV bath, ozone, and bleach and alcohol mists. It boils down to real-world realities, risks and costs, and practicality.
It's unfortunate state of affairs in that it's routine to administer a course of antibiotics post op. For instance, I've had four full-on procedures in the past year and was on a heavy regime of antibiotics after every one, with two infections acquired either from OR or hospital, and two that I had going in.
First, I don't dispute your facts, so please don't take it that way. I should maybe have been more clear about that.
Second, I'm not talking about entitlements, but direct subsidies. But even when entitlements are included (unlike many, I distinctly exclude Social Security - OASDI - because they're insurance policy payouts), direct corporate payments exceed the rest.
Third, I don't think this is a party issue (fifty years of votes will bear this out) - it's become systemic. While some roots precede it, most of this stuff started during and with the end of WWII. For example, wartime subsidies (some done as negative taxation) for oil exploration, drilling, transport, refining, and distribution were only ever partially rescinded, IIRC. Direct payments to individual subsistence farmers locked into a particular cash crop - often tobacco - in an effort to help them move to rotation, intercropping, and moving to other cash crops - were extended to corporate farming, where a corporate owner could retire on payments to not grow something. (That's a small but extreme example, to be sure, but direct subsidies of this and similar kinds persist. In wider use grew similar payments over the years done to help farmers while we tried to rationalize import-export ratios.) Programs and payments set up to help shift from wartime manufacturing to peacetime consumer goods have their own history. No sector was left untouched. Heck, we even helped out finance companies set up to help people "buy on time" such that we now have one of the higher, if not the highest, consumer debt to GNP ratios on the planet.
I firmly agree with you that these kinds of corporate welfare programs need to end. Doing so responsibly is going to be difficult - an understatement, surely. The shift to corporate and factory farming may be irreversible, something I lament, but I don't believe those corporations have any inherent right to extra profits that are reflected in the cost of foodstuffs going onto the tables of anyone but most especially those of low income who are already hard-pressed. The destruction of our soil and its attendant problems are a national disgrace and an ecological disaster - and it needs to be fixed.
The universal desire of parents for their children to have at least the practical opportunity to have a better life was last realized for the post-war generation - that's a measure of how low we've sunk, by allowing a situation where the profits of productivity can be siphoned off by the few and not re-invested in the common enterprise.
Ghosh, Rosie, I'd love to surf on over there, but my nurse is leaving, so no more channel flipping tonight for me. I'm sure that once there whatever fee might be involved in pursuing my life's dreams would be most nominal and certain to be applied only to defray necessary expenses.
Speaking of which, I could well be in a most wonderful position to make a substantial investment in this regard, as I've been left a rather embarrassingly large stack of old treasury notes in a safe deposit box which belonged to my dear recently departed uncle, a most kindly gentleman who entrusted these bonds to me in the hopes I might better myself.
Unfortunately what with my rather extensive life-support needs and their attendant, er, attendants, I'm unable to get across the country to pick them up - a task which may not be delegated according to the bank's officers. There is a possible solution, in that a professional friend at one of my city's consulates (which I fear must remain nameless out of respectful discretion) has most generously offered me the free use of the embassy's private jet if only I can provide for the small cost of the fuel needed. For the pittance of but $74,000USD then the task is complete. (Needless to say, whomever was instrumental in providing such a trifling investment would be generously rewarded; I was thinking a, um, finder's fee, shall we call it? on the order of 1/3 that amount might be a proper gesture of gratitude, don't you? - plus expenses, of course. If you could but help in this time of need against what promises to be a large windfall, I would truly be most thankful in a remunerative fashion.
Please respond to lynchspammers@upthine.org. I anxiously await your no doubt kindly, generous, and humbling missive.
Yes, really looking for methane. One of its sources is living things - metabolic by-product of fauna, and decay product of flora. Particular differentials in carbon isotopes is indicator of that biological sourcing, if it exists. It's really rather amazing what real scientists get up to, nu?
Last I looked, direct subsidies to corporations exceeded those to individuals by almost a factor of two. That's before tax breaks and loopholes. As for the 'job creators' myth, while it's true for small businesses, for going on two decades more and more of the profits of production have not been returned to the economy either in investment or job creation by the multinationals and their majority owners, nor by many of the individuals in the fraction of the 1%. All the data are out there, readily available from reputable sources. You have but to seek, or to have been paying attention the past thirty years or so. While you're at it, check out shadow banking.
For something a bit wild, as I haven't totted up the numbers so this is more of a WAG, but I'd guess that under just two presidents has occurred the greatest shift in wealth in recorded human history; but almost certainly in modern times. I've been meaning to do the sums, but so far haven't the stomach for it, so I've been going on the best estimates from people who seem to have a handle on it - along with data directly from the U.S. government (Census Bureau, IRS, Bureau of Labor Statistics, etc.)
One of the reasons for the fine balance of payments in the economy was the upper tax bracket rate of 90% after the first million (we had a progressive tax structure with far few loopholes and a much more manageable tax code), just to put some perspective on things. Another solid contributor was a large, stable (and growing) middle-class, along with union-abetted living wages for many blue-collar workers.
"....raided social security...." Nope. I was in my mid-twenties when that happened, when Nixon was president; I submit the median age of Congress was significantly higher.
The [semi-capitalistic] economy gets screwed a variety of ways by people of many age groups, as well as by what appear to be intrinsic cycles. Those in actual charge at financial firms are typically the elders. Decline of the economy in real terms roughly coincided with Reagan. Having had five different draft classifications, and having lost too many friends in Vietnam and elsewhere, laying war blame on boomers is specious. To my knowledge the majority of veterans tend to be opposed to foreign adventuring. Boomers in general were at the forefront of environmental protection, the more progressive of the preceding generation were the vanguard; the first Earth Day was April 22, 1970.
That said, my generation has its fair share of assholes and idiots, just as did, and do, the generations before and after. Generally, the people who screw things up the most are of the "I've got mine, fuck you." persuasion, a stance which knows no generational boundaries, although I see it getting worse of late.
Well, you got the science on me; I had just been doing so old-fart musing via still-surviving gee-whiz enthusiasm and pulled some stray bits out of my, um, odd niches of shelving in the mustier parts of brain. Just now I've come from Wikipedia and a quick half-hour of reading this and that; turns out O2 has a Van der Waals radius of 152pm. If there might be any interaction at, say, the tip of a spike and the adjacent bits of atmosphere, beats me. It's been too long since I've used any of this stuff, so can't make heads or tails of the viscosity info, for example.
Apart from plugging something into one, my only experience with transformers is winding secondaries for 5-250kVA distribution units; we used oil.
What I do see in my doltish way is that the biological effects seem to bear looking into, and the rest needs some thinking-cap. If there are empirical ways of delving into molecular-level actions here it'd be neat; it's not that I mistrust modeling per se but have the three-year-old's habit of asking "are we missing something?" even when it's deemed unfounded.
At any rate, this discovery strikes me as one of the beauties - finding neat stuff in otherwise ordinary places.
"If it turns out that the bugs are capable of using cell membrane potentials to selectively induce dielectric polarization...."
A most wonderful wicked question. I'm wondering, given what their metabolism is like, if they'd really need to flap their wings at all - or just do so for added effect, flying like a normal winged critter.
Depending on how this pans out, not only do we get nifty new knowledge about an area of which we mostly know nothing, but end up with great biocide wipes and, make it big enough, a flying carpet. [ducking]
Unlike with anti-biotics, this doesn't seem like something the nasties will be able to counter so readily, either. If'n we can get the manufacture down, anything we can do to prevent or deter nosocomial infections would be helpful.
Modeling - yeah, grant proposals complete with line items for headache remedies and hair regrowth factor.
Good stuff, mcgrew. A little searching goes a long way. Here's one for you, http://www.fourmilab.ch/ guy has Tom Swift books on a page; putting 'em up is one of his hobbies. Interesting site. Spent some hours there recently. His stuff on physics is interesting. Among other things.
Last para is good. Treat people right, they'll return the favor. Seems to be changing these days, tho, but it could just be I need new glasses.
Yeah, so I hear. I can dig having somewhat higher potency and all; for one thing, wouldn't have to inhale as much smoke. (Humans are funny. Watched folks come up to the campfire one night as we sat and turned the pig; they'd walk around up wind, then fire up a smoke.) Back when, my own preference was to ingest the stuff - takes more (2.4 times, according to one source back then, from a university study) but gives longer, smoother buzz.
From what a few people have told me the past few years, tho, today's weed is so wicked strong I'd almost be nervous to take a hit. Could just be I am more tuned to the active ingredients. I must have been lucky, back when, never had any truly crappy weed - even stuff grown in a flower pot on a window sill gave a decent buzz. Jeez, just figured it out, it's been almost forty years since. Wow. Time flies, even when you're not having fun.
Oh, geez, I haven't been keeping up. Last time I was around good weed was $120 a key - about $800 today.
From what I've been reading over the years, both law and cases, intent is a "gimme" by mere possession of whatever amount is designated. Place I used to live, three joints was a felony, a year per in state prison, and I think a quarter-oz. was considered intent - another felony. For a while there, I was easy going through an ounce or two per week between what I smoked, shared, and gave away.
Ah, well, far away and forty-plus years ago. All I know, this drug war crap is crazy. Nice racket with the seizures, tho. That deal with the cash is screwy. Had an uncle, paid cash for everything, including cars, his house, and even when he bought the place where he worked. Guess he'd have trouble doing that these days.
An interesting twist, extra-territoriality notwithstanding, is how the U.S. will explain its hypocrisy in the matter of the wholesale interception of all the electronic communications of their own citizens.
Sails, not sheets. Sheets are the lines used to control the sails. Hence the phrase "three sheets to the wind" indicating one has lost control.)
Anyway, as long as you're about it, why not drag along an OTEC generator at depth? You could also tether an aerial windmill to the top of a mast. Plenty of leccy to run your fan. Might even have enough left over to keep the beer cold.
Interesting. Watson makes a good springboard for a direction to grow towards. NEIL - well, nifty and all, but for right now, I'm left wondering what in blazes it's gonna make of porn, kittens, and landscapes - along with all the filler subjects.
Some damn fine posts and links. It'd help if people debating, discussing, arguing would read some of this stuff and further background. Howsomever...
I'm short in the vision department, see no good exit within current stance. What I see needful would be sweeping reformation of foreign policy, clear statement of intel policy, abolishment of bulk of Patriot Act and the Homeland Security apparat - the former several agencies were mostly doing fine, what they lacked is always what they, and the CIA always lacked: clear inter-communications. People tend to forget that DCI was not only agency head but by the Nat'l Security Act of '47 (and relevant revisions) director of all nat'l intel - fine on paper but had no teeth lacking budgetary and clear admin powers. Historically many of the intel bungles were due to squabbles over turf and rice bowls, aided and abetted by Congressional meddling for political games and gains. In a way, DHS was not so much a declaration of war on terrorists as on the American people.
Funny, in the Sixties I could go to the airport, exchange cash for ticket, go somewhere. Now it's papers, ID, background checks, strip, scan and grope - a Stasi wet dream on steroids. Of course, we're so much safer than before. Aren't we? I mean, that's what all those cameras and DPI gear are for, right?
Yeah, listen, hope it didn't seem I was knocking you for the bad link. It happens. Turns out a quick search turned up another source: http://www.oldapps.com/winamp.php (I hesitate to post it; argued with meself to no avail, so it goes.)
Cheers. Btw, your sig makes a good reminder; we can too easily forget stuff in the midst of the hurly-burly.
I think part of my confusion goes back to the transformations such as N.A.T.O. -> NATO and U.S.A. -> USA - these and quite a few others have been done just in the past few decades.
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Very little is sterilized - most stuff is sanitized. Generally anything which touches the patient is sterile; the rest is sanitary. By their very nature most if not all ORs are impossible to sterilize. There are some cheap and effective measures which can be used but each also has its own drawbacks and gotchas, among them live steam, UV bath, ozone, and bleach and alcohol mists. It boils down to real-world realities, risks and costs, and practicality.
It's unfortunate state of affairs in that it's routine to administer a course of antibiotics post op. For instance, I've had four full-on procedures in the past year and was on a heavy regime of antibiotics after every one, with two infections acquired either from OR or hospital, and two that I had going in.
First, I don't dispute your facts, so please don't take it that way. I should maybe have been more clear about that.
Second, I'm not talking about entitlements, but direct subsidies. But even when entitlements are included (unlike many, I distinctly exclude Social Security - OASDI - because they're insurance policy payouts), direct corporate payments exceed the rest.
Third, I don't think this is a party issue (fifty years of votes will bear this out) - it's become systemic. While some roots precede it, most of this stuff started during and with the end of WWII. For example, wartime subsidies (some done as negative taxation) for oil exploration, drilling, transport, refining, and distribution were only ever partially rescinded, IIRC. Direct payments to individual subsistence farmers locked into a particular cash crop - often tobacco - in an effort to help them move to rotation, intercropping, and moving to other cash crops - were extended to corporate farming, where a corporate owner could retire on payments to not grow something. (That's a small but extreme example, to be sure, but direct subsidies of this and similar kinds persist. In wider use grew similar payments over the years done to help farmers while we tried to rationalize import-export ratios.) Programs and payments set up to help shift from wartime manufacturing to peacetime consumer goods have their own history. No sector was left untouched. Heck, we even helped out finance companies set up to help people "buy on time" such that we now have one of the higher, if not the highest, consumer debt to GNP ratios on the planet.
I firmly agree with you that these kinds of corporate welfare programs need to end. Doing so responsibly is going to be difficult - an understatement, surely. The shift to corporate and factory farming may be irreversible, something I lament, but I don't believe those corporations have any inherent right to extra profits that are reflected in the cost of foodstuffs going onto the tables of anyone but most especially those of low income who are already hard-pressed. The destruction of our soil and its attendant problems are a national disgrace and an ecological disaster - and it needs to be fixed.
The universal desire of parents for their children to have at least the practical opportunity to have a better life was last realized for the post-war generation - that's a measure of how low we've sunk, by allowing a situation where the profits of productivity can be siphoned off by the few and not re-invested in the common enterprise.
We got trouble, right here in River City.
Ghosh, Rosie, I'd love to surf on over there, but my nurse is leaving, so no more channel flipping tonight for me. I'm sure that once there whatever fee might be involved in pursuing my life's dreams would be most nominal and certain to be applied only to defray necessary expenses.
Speaking of which, I could well be in a most wonderful position to make a substantial investment in this regard, as I've been left a rather embarrassingly large stack of old treasury notes in a safe deposit box which belonged to my dear recently departed uncle, a most kindly gentleman who entrusted these bonds to me in the hopes I might better myself.
Unfortunately what with my rather extensive life-support needs and their attendant, er, attendants, I'm unable to get across the country to pick them up - a task which may not be delegated according to the bank's officers. There is a possible solution, in that a professional friend at one of my city's consulates (which I fear must remain nameless out of respectful discretion) has most generously offered me the free use of the embassy's private jet if only I can provide for the small cost of the fuel needed. For the pittance of but $74,000USD then the task is complete. (Needless to say, whomever was instrumental in providing such a trifling investment would be generously rewarded; I was thinking a, um, finder's fee, shall we call it? on the order of 1/3 that amount might be a proper gesture of gratitude, don't you? - plus expenses, of course. If you could but help in this time of need against what promises to be a large windfall, I would truly be most thankful in a remunerative fashion.
Please respond to lynchspammers@upthine.org. I anxiously await your no doubt kindly, generous, and humbling missive.
Yes, really looking for methane. One of its sources is living things - metabolic by-product of fauna, and decay product of flora. Particular differentials in carbon isotopes is indicator of that biological sourcing, if it exists. It's really rather amazing what real scientists get up to, nu?
Last I looked, direct subsidies to corporations exceeded those to individuals by almost a factor of two. That's before tax breaks and loopholes. As for the 'job creators' myth, while it's true for small businesses, for going on two decades more and more of the profits of production have not been returned to the economy either in investment or job creation by the multinationals and their majority owners, nor by many of the individuals in the fraction of the 1%. All the data are out there, readily available from reputable sources. You have but to seek, or to have been paying attention the past thirty years or so. While you're at it, check out shadow banking.
For something a bit wild, as I haven't totted up the numbers so this is more of a WAG, but I'd guess that under just two presidents has occurred the greatest shift in wealth in recorded human history; but almost certainly in modern times. I've been meaning to do the sums, but so far haven't the stomach for it, so I've been going on the best estimates from people who seem to have a handle on it - along with data directly from the U.S. government (Census Bureau, IRS, Bureau of Labor Statistics, etc.)
One of the reasons for the fine balance of payments in the economy was the upper tax bracket rate of 90% after the first million (we had a progressive tax structure with far few loopholes and a much more manageable tax code), just to put some perspective on things. Another solid contributor was a large, stable (and growing) middle-class, along with union-abetted living wages for many blue-collar workers.
"....raided social security...." Nope. I was in my mid-twenties when that happened, when Nixon was president; I submit the median age of Congress was significantly higher.
The [semi-capitalistic] economy gets screwed a variety of ways by people of many age groups, as well as by what appear to be intrinsic cycles. Those in actual charge at financial firms are typically the elders. Decline of the economy in real terms roughly coincided with Reagan. Having had five different draft classifications, and having lost too many friends in Vietnam and elsewhere, laying war blame on boomers is specious. To my knowledge the majority of veterans tend to be opposed to foreign adventuring. Boomers in general were at the forefront of environmental protection, the more progressive of the preceding generation were the vanguard; the first Earth Day was April 22, 1970.
That said, my generation has its fair share of assholes and idiots, just as did, and do, the generations before and after. Generally, the people who screw things up the most are of the "I've got mine, fuck you." persuasion, a stance which knows no generational boundaries, although I see it getting worse of late.
Well, you got the science on me; I had just been doing so old-fart musing via still-surviving gee-whiz enthusiasm and pulled some stray bits out of my, um, odd niches of shelving in the mustier parts of brain. Just now I've come from Wikipedia and a quick half-hour of reading this and that; turns out O2 has a Van der Waals radius of 152pm. If there might be any interaction at, say, the tip of a spike and the adjacent bits of atmosphere, beats me. It's been too long since I've used any of this stuff, so can't make heads or tails of the viscosity info, for example.
Apart from plugging something into one, my only experience with transformers is winding secondaries for 5-250kVA distribution units; we used oil.
What I do see in my doltish way is that the biological effects seem to bear looking into, and the rest needs some thinking-cap. If there are empirical ways of delving into molecular-level actions here it'd be neat; it's not that I mistrust modeling per se but have the three-year-old's habit of asking "are we missing something?" even when it's deemed unfounded.
At any rate, this discovery strikes me as one of the beauties - finding neat stuff in otherwise ordinary places.
"If it turns out that the bugs are capable of using cell membrane potentials to selectively induce dielectric polarization...."
A most wonderful wicked question. I'm wondering, given what their metabolism is like, if they'd really need to flap their wings at all - or just do so for added effect, flying like a normal winged critter.
Depending on how this pans out, not only do we get nifty new knowledge about an area of which we mostly know nothing, but end up with great biocide wipes and, make it big enough, a flying carpet. [ducking]
Unlike with anti-biotics, this doesn't seem like something the nasties will be able to counter so readily, either. If'n we can get the manufacture down, anything we can do to prevent or deter nosocomial infections would be helpful.
Modeling - yeah, grant proposals complete with line items for headache remedies and hair regrowth factor.
It means that entering "dhs usa" into a search engine is something you have not experienced.
Good stuff, mcgrew. A little searching goes a long way. Here's one for you,
http://www.fourmilab.ch/
guy has Tom Swift books on a page; putting 'em up is one of his hobbies. Interesting site. Spent some hours there recently. His stuff on physics is interesting. Among other things.
Last para is good. Treat people right, they'll return the favor. Seems to be changing these days, tho, but it could just be I need new glasses.
Yeah, so I hear. I can dig having somewhat higher potency and all; for one thing, wouldn't have to inhale as much smoke. (Humans are funny. Watched folks come up to the campfire one night as we sat and turned the pig; they'd walk around up wind, then fire up a smoke.) Back when, my own preference was to ingest the stuff - takes more (2.4 times, according to one source back then, from a university study) but gives longer, smoother buzz.
From what a few people have told me the past few years, tho, today's weed is so wicked strong I'd almost be nervous to take a hit. Could just be I am more tuned to the active ingredients. I must have been lucky, back when, never had any truly crappy weed - even stuff grown in a flower pot on a window sill gave a decent buzz. Jeez, just figured it out, it's been almost forty years since. Wow. Time flies, even when you're not having fun.
;-)
$2500-5500 per pound
Oh, geez, I haven't been keeping up. Last time I was around good weed was $120 a key - about $800 today.
From what I've been reading over the years, both law and cases, intent is a "gimme" by mere possession of whatever amount is designated. Place I used to live, three joints was a felony, a year per in state prison, and I think a quarter-oz. was considered intent - another felony. For a while there, I was easy going through an ounce or two per week between what I smoked, shared, and gave away.
Ah, well, far away and forty-plus years ago. All I know, this drug war crap is crazy. Nice racket with the seizures, tho. That deal with the cash is screwy. Had an uncle, paid cash for everything, including cars, his house, and even when he bought the place where he worked. Guess he'd have trouble doing that these days.
I first heard them called hub caps circa '54; I may have heard of wheel covers before your post but can't recall when.
An interesting twist, extra-territoriality notwithstanding, is how the U.S. will explain its hypocrisy in the matter of the wholesale interception of all the electronic communications of their own citizens.
Officializes?
No, thanks.
Sails, not sheets. Sheets are the lines used to control the sails. Hence the phrase "three sheets to the wind" indicating one has lost control.)
Anyway, as long as you're about it, why not drag along an OTEC generator at depth? You could also tether an aerial windmill to the top of a mast. Plenty of leccy to run your fan. Might even have enough left over to keep the beer cold.
Interesting. Watson makes a good springboard for a direction to grow towards. NEIL - well, nifty and all, but for right now, I'm left wondering what in blazes it's gonna make of porn, kittens, and landscapes - along with all the filler subjects.
IIRC US gave UK imagery, sigint, and some related intel (sub-surface sourcing.)
Some damn fine posts and links. It'd help if people debating, discussing, arguing would read some of this stuff and further background. Howsomever...
I'm short in the vision department, see no good exit within current stance. What I see needful would be sweeping reformation of foreign policy, clear statement of intel policy, abolishment of bulk of Patriot Act and the Homeland Security apparat - the former several agencies were mostly doing fine, what they lacked is always what they, and the CIA always lacked: clear inter-communications. People tend to forget that DCI was not only agency head but by the Nat'l Security Act of '47 (and relevant revisions) director of all nat'l intel - fine on paper but had no teeth lacking budgetary and clear admin powers. Historically many of the intel bungles were due to squabbles over turf and rice bowls, aided and abetted by Congressional meddling for political games and gains. In a way, DHS was not so much a declaration of war on terrorists as on the American people.
Funny, in the Sixties I could go to the airport, exchange cash for ticket, go somewhere. Now it's papers, ID, background checks, strip, scan and grope - a Stasi wet dream on steroids. Of course, we're so much safer than before. Aren't we? I mean, that's what all those cameras and DPI gear are for, right?
Yeah, listen, hope it didn't seem I was knocking you for the bad link. It happens. Turns out a quick search turned up another source: http://www.oldapps.com/winamp.php (I hesitate to post it; argued with meself to no avail, so it goes.)
Cheers. Btw, your sig makes a good reminder; we can too easily forget stuff in the midst of the hurly-burly.
Quibbles always welcome when they inform. Thanks.
I think part of my confusion goes back to the transformations such as N.A.T.O. -> NATO and U.S.A. -> USA - these and quite a few others have been done just in the past few decades.
IIRC correctly, soap messes with the bacterium's cell wall. I s'pose someone could look it up.
Or hydrogen peroxide. Or iodine solution. Or soap and water. Or have your dog lick your owie, and hope it and you don't get sick.