This is pathetic, you are correct. With that many million users, why do they need this kind of crap. Here is an idea:
Provide an iPhone/Android app for free that make testing and report its findings (GSM/Reception points). People where coverage sucks will install it and you'll get reports. People that doesn't want to install it, it must be good enough coverage. But I'm sure you'll get a sufficiently dense map of your weak spots, for free, with no hassle.
Better, when people call to report bad coverage propose them the app in case they don't know about it. Much better accuracy that a user screaming at you over the phone.
When you look at yourself in the mirror, do the mirror takes the responsibility of your face in case you find something objectionable to it? Looks like you're missing something there.
identity theft is a felony. the individual responsible for the "Pieroxy" account is a criminal.
they have attempted to steal my identity. i am michael kristopeit. i live at 4513 brittany ct. eau claire, wi. 54701. i live there in the house i paid cash for with my wife and children and dogs and numerous firearms.
to the individual responsible: present yourself to me; admit what you've done, then i'll bring upon you the ultimate punishment for your transgressions. ---- And remember, it's just the sound of the echo (cause there's noone in there). Not me impersonating you.
The patent system is hopeless, at least when it comes to software and technology. It is based under the premise that whatever you might invent yourself, in your garage, may not be yours to sell. But you don't know.
This cannot be fixed as it is the basis of the patent system.
The patent system is just nuts and should be abolished entirely.
Of course I care about others' feelings. Just because you could have a thicker skin (or ignore me altogether) doesn't mean I deliberately go out of my way to say the most offensive thing possible.
Why not? Since words can't harm others what refrains you from "deliberately go out of my way to say the most offensive thing possible"? It is not fun?
So, even if my analogy is inaccurate, it's still hyperbole. Judging by your reply, it looks like the difference is still one of scale. It's like the difference between, say, stealing $5 and stealing someone's home -- yes, one's trivial and one's catastrophic, but they're still analogous.
Well, destroying my iPhone does no harm to anyone (assuming I didn't break it by hitting someone with it). That is because it is an object, and not a human. The damage done is only mechanics and by buying another phone I can replace it 100%. Slapping my wife will hurt her. Not physically (it might though), but emotionally. Hurting her might actually cause damage to her that might not be reparable. Not mentioning my kids that might hear me hitting her. They too will be affected, and it might taint their entire lives from a negative standpoint.
So, your analogy is basically saying it's comparable to be locked in to a marriage with a violent husband and to be locked in an iPhone. You are basically trying to relate the relationship between two human beings with the relationship to your phone? And you say it's comparable? But you OWN your phone, you can part with it anytime you want with NO impact whatsoever to anyone but yourself in case you fell in love with it. And don't talk to me about contacts list and such, it is a technicality and there are numerous ways to back them up anyways. Getting out of a marriage is not harder, it's completely different. It's not parting with property!! How can you not see that? The ramifications and implications are just... there. It's not that there's more of them, it's just that trowing your phone away has no implications whatsoever to anyone else but yourself.
Ah, and since you will bash me for refusing to refute you stupidly arrogant and careless analogy, here it is:
- Wedding is a real life lifetime commitment. It has implications in every aspect of your life. - Buying a phone is buying a fucking toy you can throw away whenever you please.
Do you see how your analogy is completely and utterly flawed? You'll never see how it can be hurtful because you don't care. How old are you? 15?
Instead of talking nonsense for the mere pleasure of doing it, you should consider the harm your words can do to another human being. That's probably a consideration that is well over your head. Warning the general population that the iPhone is bad for them, when it's really bad for you and your kind is a far more important task. Who cares about other's feelings?
I hope you're joking, and by re-reading your sentence you will realize you haven't jumped the fence, but you've jumped the whole city there. Please, let's be civilized and let's use analogies that have some credibility.
Is the issue that my analogy was too harsh, or that it was actually inaccurate? In what way does this not apply? Seems to me the only issue is knowing about it up front...
For that matter...
The first time, I though you wrote that lightly. But insisting? By trying to compare buying a phone to being battered by one's husband, you have discredited yourself as a human being. Go die someplace where it won't disturb anyone please.
Invariably, if there is a way to screw up your phone, my users will do, because they'll stumble on a website giving instructions on how to put this "marvelous" app on their phone.
Ah, so you're responsible for some people who you presumably have no real authority over, but you're allowed to choose their technology for them.
Why not allow your users to do what they want after promising (in writing) not to bother you about it? Some users get hand-held, some get to do what they want. Or why not simply factory-reset their phones if they screw them up?
I think you got me completely wrong. My users are my family. My wife and my kids. Making my wife promise me that she won't bother me? She already has another document with my signature that makes sure I owe her assistance. Plus, I have some dignity;-)
Or, if you must lock them down, is it really the case that Android provides no such security here? After all, these are presumably the same people who, if not you, then some IT department somewhere lets them use PCs. Surely, then, even if it's by locking it down yourself, an open platform is manageable.
I'm pretty sure I could lock down an Android phone down to the exact level I want, catered to the millimeter for every one of my users. But then, I'll have no time to enjoy my users. I'd rather play with my kids than lock down their phone or to keep resetting them. Especially since there is a company out there that does just that for me.
Ways to jailbreak your phone are security issues, nothing less, nothing more. Can you blame Apple from closing security vulnerabilities?
Nope, but I can blame them for setting up a situation in which a security vulnerability is what's required to "jailbreak" (read: liberate) my own device.
If you want a phone "liberated", don't buy an iPhone. There are myriads of phones out there that are already liberated. Why focusing on the one handset that doesn't fit your need and keep bashing it as if Apple removes some of your freedom, when you're not a user?
Where I live, every single Android phone has to be rootkitted in order to reinstall another kernel.
And where is that, exactly?
Motorola, among others, has pledged to ship unlocked bootloaders on new phones. You plug the phone in, run one command from the dev kit on a PC -- which will even work from a Linux PC -- to install an entire new copy of the OS.
Ok, I didn't know that. I haven't been paying much attention to the Android news lately.
Also, since when were we talking about kernels? I was talking about additional software. On iPhone, you have to jailbreak just to download an app that isn't from Apple's own app store. Not all Android devices require even the procedure I described above -- some allow you to download apps from a web browser the way PCs (and Macs) have for, well, forever. So, on some brand-new Android phones, I can take the phone out of the box, navigate to a competitor's app store website, and I'm good -- at worst, I download their app store client.
Carriers (and manufacturers for that matter) can go pretty far as far as locking is concerned. They've been spotted more than enough time removing the marketplace altogether. That said, I'm glad you found a platform that fit your need. Why keep bashing the one that fit my need because it doesn't fit yours? Must ALL phones meet your standard for you to be happy?
And for god's sake, Apple doesn't force anyone to do anything!!!! Nobody prevents anyone from using Android...
That's a bit like an abusive husband telling his battered wife that she didn't have to marry him.
I hope you're joking, and by re-reading your sentence you will realize you haven't jumped the
Also lots of phones look similar, lots of cars look similar, lots of TVs look similar, lots of computers look similar, lots of monitors look similar...
Since you qualify me as a felon, would you care to tell us:
- what felony I might have committed? Keep in mind that copy/pasting a post on an obscure online forum is far from being an identity theft. - How am I more an identity thieve than MichaelKristopeit415? I don't see you insulting him. - How am I supposed to know which of the MichaelKristopeit* accounts is the real michael kristopeit? - How does the fact of having committed a felony (in case we agree that I have) makes me a criminal? No crime has been committed and identity theft is not a crime. - How does copy/pasting the same post over and over again (for me to see, nobody else is reading this thread) help you in any way?
Since you are accusing me of being a felon, I suggest we first assess my felony.
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The article talks about reporting coverage, not taking action on said report ;-)
This is pathetic, you are correct. With that many million users, why do they need this kind of crap. Here is an idea:
Provide an iPhone/Android app for free that make testing and report its findings (GSM/Reception points). People where coverage sucks will install it and you'll get reports. People that doesn't want to install it, it must be good enough coverage. But I'm sure you'll get a sufficiently dense map of your weak spots, for free, with no hassle.
Better, when people call to report bad coverage propose them the app in case they don't know about it. Much better accuracy that a user screaming at you over the phone.
When you look at yourself in the mirror, do the mirror takes the responsibility of your face in case you find something objectionable to it? Looks like you're missing something there.
It not a bad thing, it's just not true. Apple's Siri is not competing with Google Translator. They're different products for different purposes.
Here is the sound of the echo:
identity theft is a felony.
the individual responsible for the "Pieroxy" account is a criminal.
they have attempted to steal my identity. i am michael kristopeit. i live at 4513 brittany ct. eau claire, wi. 54701. i live there in the house i paid cash for with my wife and children and dogs and numerous firearms.
to the individual responsible: present yourself to me; admit what you've done, then i'll bring upon you the ultimate punishment for your transgressions.
----
And remember, it's just the sound of the echo (cause there's noone in there). Not me impersonating you.
Why the catchy headline "To Battle Siri"? Why wouldn't it be just for "Improving Android Translator"?
The patent system is hopeless, at least when it comes to software and technology. It is based under the premise that whatever you might invent yourself, in your garage, may not be yours to sell. But you don't know.
This cannot be fixed as it is the basis of the patent system.
The patent system is just nuts and should be abolished entirely.
Of course I care about others' feelings. Just because you could have a thicker skin (or ignore me altogether) doesn't mean I deliberately go out of my way to say the most offensive thing possible.
Why not? Since words can't harm others what refrains you from "deliberately go out of my way to say the most offensive thing possible"? It is not fun?
So, even if my analogy is inaccurate, it's still hyperbole. Judging by your reply, it looks like the difference is still one of scale. It's like the difference between, say, stealing $5 and stealing someone's home -- yes, one's trivial and one's catastrophic, but they're still analogous.
Well, destroying my iPhone does no harm to anyone (assuming I didn't break it by hitting someone with it). That is because it is an object, and not a human. The damage done is only mechanics and by buying another phone I can replace it 100%. Slapping my wife will hurt her. Not physically (it might though), but emotionally. Hurting her might actually cause damage to her that might not be reparable. Not mentioning my kids that might hear me hitting her. They too will be affected, and it might taint their entire lives from a negative standpoint.
So, your analogy is basically saying it's comparable to be locked in to a marriage with a violent husband and to be locked in an iPhone. You are basically trying to relate the relationship between two human beings with the relationship to your phone? And you say it's comparable? But you OWN your phone, you can part with it anytime you want with NO impact whatsoever to anyone but yourself in case you fell in love with it. And don't talk to me about contacts list and such, it is a technicality and there are numerous ways to back them up anyways. Getting out of a marriage is not harder, it's completely different. It's not parting with property!! How can you not see that? The ramifications and implications are just ... there. It's not that there's more of them, it's just that trowing your phone away has no implications whatsoever to anyone else but yourself.
Moving on to that...
If for you the difference between a smartphone and a wife is just a matter of degree, then I can do nothing for you. Sorry.
People think in binary here. It's either perfect or not. In your case, it is not.
Ah, and since you will bash me for refusing to refute you stupidly arrogant and careless analogy, here it is:
- Wedding is a real life lifetime commitment. It has implications in every aspect of your life.
- Buying a phone is buying a fucking toy you can throw away whenever you please.
Do you see how your analogy is completely and utterly flawed? You'll never see how it can be hurtful because you don't care. How old are you? 15?
Instead of talking nonsense for the mere pleasure of doing it, you should consider the harm your words can do to another human being. That's probably a consideration that is well over your head. Warning the general population that the iPhone is bad for them, when it's really bad for you and your kind is a far more important task. Who cares about other's feelings?
I hope you're joking, and by re-reading your sentence you will realize you haven't jumped the fence, but you've jumped the whole city there. Please, let's be civilized and let's use analogies that have some credibility.
Is the issue that my analogy was too harsh, or that it was actually inaccurate? In what way does this not apply? Seems to me the only issue is knowing about it up front...
For that matter...
The first time, I though you wrote that lightly. But insisting? By trying to compare buying a phone to being battered by one's husband, you have discredited yourself as a human being. Go die someplace where it won't disturb anyone please.
Invariably, if there is a way to screw up your phone, my users will do, because they'll stumble on a website giving instructions on how to put this "marvelous" app on their phone.
Ah, so you're responsible for some people who you presumably have no real authority over, but you're allowed to choose their technology for them.
Why not allow your users to do what they want after promising (in writing) not to bother you about it? Some users get hand-held, some get to do what they want. Or why not simply factory-reset their phones if they screw them up?
I think you got me completely wrong. My users are my family. My wife and my kids. Making my wife promise me that she won't bother me? She already has another document with my signature that makes sure I owe her assistance. Plus, I have some dignity ;-)
Or, if you must lock them down, is it really the case that Android provides no such security here? After all, these are presumably the same people who, if not you, then some IT department somewhere lets them use PCs. Surely, then, even if it's by locking it down yourself, an open platform is manageable.
I'm pretty sure I could lock down an Android phone down to the exact level I want, catered to the millimeter for every one of my users. But then, I'll have no time to enjoy my users. I'd rather play with my kids than lock down their phone or to keep resetting them. Especially since there is a company out there that does just that for me.
Ways to jailbreak your phone are security issues, nothing less, nothing more. Can you blame Apple from closing security vulnerabilities?
Nope, but I can blame them for setting up a situation in which a security vulnerability is what's required to "jailbreak" (read: liberate) my own device.
If you want a phone "liberated", don't buy an iPhone. There are myriads of phones out there that are already liberated. Why focusing on the one handset that doesn't fit your need and keep bashing it as if Apple removes some of your freedom, when you're not a user?
Where I live, every single Android phone has to be rootkitted in order to reinstall another kernel.
And where is that, exactly?
Motorola, among others, has pledged to ship unlocked bootloaders on new phones. You plug the phone in, run one command from the dev kit on a PC -- which will even work from a Linux PC -- to install an entire new copy of the OS.
Ok, I didn't know that. I haven't been paying much attention to the Android news lately.
Also, since when were we talking about kernels? I was talking about additional software. On iPhone, you have to jailbreak just to download an app that isn't from Apple's own app store. Not all Android devices require even the procedure I described above -- some allow you to download apps from a web browser the way PCs (and Macs) have for, well, forever. So, on some brand-new Android phones, I can take the phone out of the box, navigate to a competitor's app store website, and I'm good -- at worst, I download their app store client.
Carriers (and manufacturers for that matter) can go pretty far as far as locking is concerned. They've been spotted more than enough time removing the marketplace altogether. That said, I'm glad you found a platform that fit your need. Why keep bashing the one that fit my need because it doesn't fit yours? Must ALL phones meet your standard for you to be happy?
And for god's sake, Apple doesn't force anyone to do anything!!!! Nobody prevents anyone from using Android...
That's a bit like an abusive husband telling his battered wife that she didn't have to marry him.
I hope you're joking, and by re-reading your sentence you will realize you haven't jumped the
Nobody's listening.
Hey! That's me !
Surprise of the day: AT&T activation servers work roughly as well as their cell coverage in urban areas.
Note that if you can't activate your iPhone, you can't drop calls!!!
ok
Also lots of phones look similar, lots of cars look similar, lots of TVs look similar, lots of computers look similar, lots of monitors look similar...
Who cares?
AppleCare.
Ah, but I didn't do identity theft. Where did you see me doing this?
So, we have asserted that I committed no felony, since you don't want to name one.
It's just about trolling then. Let's troll. But don't complain.
Since you qualify me as a felon, would you care to tell us:
- what felony I might have committed? Keep in mind that copy/pasting a post on an obscure online forum is far from being an identity theft.
- How am I more an identity thieve than MichaelKristopeit415? I don't see you insulting him.
- How am I supposed to know which of the MichaelKristopeit* accounts is the real michael kristopeit?
- How does the fact of having committed a felony (in case we agree that I have) makes me a criminal? No crime has been committed and identity theft is not a crime.
- How does copy/pasting the same post over and over again (for me to see, nobody else is reading this thread) help you in any way?
Since you are accusing me of being a felon, I suggest we first assess my felony.
What do you think?