I know people who don't know squat about PC's but they still install Quicktime and Realplayer and WinDVD and powerDVD and whatever else they get.
If anything Apple should be shot for there proprietary iTunes system, quicktime plugin and such. Atleast with WMP you can configure it to work with seevral different stores, all different formats (with the purchase of 3rd party codecs such as divx, dvd and even open source codecs)..
Hell, when you buy a PC the vendor can install whatever he/she wants. You have a choice - microsoft isn't stopping you from making your own decisions.
HOWEVER they shouldn't be punished for providing a feature that you CHOSE to pay for in there core OS.
After all its YOU choosing not to use something that could potentially be better or offer more features.
A monopoly would be microsoft prohibiting real video from making a client. A monopoly would be blocking winDVD and powerdvd from market share (or any other add-on vendor)
Instead all of these companies making media players are making millions. Real is highly succesfull with Listen.com services, Windvd and powerdvd sell millions and infact WMP required a 3rd party purchased DVD program for playback and i'm sure that made people happy.
WMP 10 even offers competing stores in its player.
OS/2 had a media player befor Windows - was that a monopoly? The entire workplace shell was integrated as everything was an object in essence so while IBM shipped a standard plugin you chould choose to run whatever you wanted in the end run - no diference then microsoft.
Heck, IBM was also the first to ship a web browser with the OS.
OS/2 defigned more of the market then Microsoft could ever take credit for and just goes to prove that microsoft had better marketing and i'm sure some nasty tactics to win the market - however they're not being anti-competitive by including basic features as a part of the os.
I chose to run windows. I also chose to run OS/2 and i also chose to run Linux and Solaris.
I chose to use Internet explorer and i chose to use Netscape and now i choose to use Firefox.
I also chose to use windows media player over everything else and i agree that the media player should be fully integrated with the OS because that is a feature we as in windows users request just as sound in kde/linux is done.
I don't think there is any injustice in the practices the EU are suing for. I don't want the EU suing so anoter crappy business (Real Audio) can get in with spyware and take over my pc - if anything Microsof thas been the most cooth over keeping things clean and protecting your consumer rights.
Server code doesn't need to be shared either. Thats like telling Oracle they need to share there IP because other databases that are emulating them are having to hack support or use proprietary systems.
Please tell me how microsoft has and continues to stimmy competition, the market and harm consumers?
Tell me again how the government suing microsoft in this case and the others will benefit the tax payers paying for these suits?
The "greed and deceit" of microsoft pales in comparison to the issues governments on both sides of the pond should be attacking.
It just seems like a waste of time and so 5 years ago. Market has changed, economy has changed and believe it or not there is competition and i don't think any of these lawsuits had anything to do with building the open market we have today.
Remember, this lawsuit and appeal will only affect people who choose to support microsoft products. This doesn't make linux or apple more prevelant. This doesn't stop contracts with vendors and this doesn't do much to open windows up.
I don't get it how the governments on both sides have attacked microsoft for being closed, proprietary and "cheating" the system with the hooks and features they only know about yet companies like SCO are suing for billions to try and make sure that it's code remains proprietary, remains closed and remains controlled.
Well, thats if we had the exports to boot. The issue with your sceneorio is that not only is the dollar falling, but so our exports. Our trade deffecit is increasing - not falling. Instead of better deals, we see to be accepting inflation as a fix.
The US dollar is falling, so its highly doubtfull LCD tv's will fall that much unless they decide to saturate the market and cut earnings.
3 new LCD plants have opened that i'm aware of so we may get lucky and see that saturation..
HOWEVER, Buyer-Be-Ware - Not all tv's are the same. Look at those resulutions, refresh rates and pixel speeds before forking out the cash. Make sure you only buy from a place with a satisfaction guarantee & warranty.
not to mention 99.99999 percent of "consumer" printers are wildly off calibration so you would never or should never calibrate your monitor according to what comes out of your printer...
yeah, i hate it too - but it works. Keeps those "one timers" who come in just to hammer the board with crap and then get re-prompted for a login they most likely forgot before and have to go through a registration process again and usually just give up..
Ofcourse you could also just regenerate the cookies bsaed upon post scoring - for example if people get modded up lengthen cookie time and such because there is some trust being given.
But DoS attacks as well. Running several political blogs I often get "freeped"
The best solution for me:
1. User email address verification 2. server generated images to verify real user for registration 3. Regular cookie expiration after x amount of time 4. host filtering (referr filtering usually gets ride of "freepers" unless they open a new window
However - nothing beats good moderators, quality users and sticking to your nich. Don't go pissing people off tossing your blog around the world yourself and not expect to get anything in return.
A goal or principle served with dedication and zeal: "the cause of freedom versus tyranny" (Hannah Arendt).
Agenda:
A list or program of things to be done or considered: "They share with them an agenda beyond the immediate goal of democratization of the electoral process" (Daniel Sneider).
A Cause for Democracy is completely different than an Aegnda for Americans. Sorry you can't see the difference..
If anyone was throwing propaganda, you sure hit it on the head with a nail. Defamation of character with no merit.. your spot on!
Why did we spend MILLIONS for GPS location policies on Cell phones if we're going to shutdown GPS when its most needed? (post 9/11)
Why are we speaking of shutting down the tried and true radio becaons in lieu of GPS only to shut it down again, when it's most needed?
Transportation, Environmental Protection, Hobbyists and professionals alike rely upon and use GPS daily. Shutting them down or any attempt thereof is only points for the "terrorists"
How much time before Bush bans Rand McNally Maps & Globes?
Typical of right-wingers with an agenda instead of a cause.
You see the Agenda we can't stand is the smoke & mirrors of these projects. You know the smoke that a missile defense "shield" will make us stronger/"safer" and the mirror that the failure of the program that Bush wants isn't Bush's fault. Take a vote, and I bet the public would drop this for the pork project it is.
If this were a cause, it would be an international & consorted effort of defense of democracies against known enemies and terrorist groups. Instead it's an agenda to line the pockets of specific groups and agenda makers.
Instead we're told pork-barrel projects such as Social Security, Medicare, Health-Care and welfare are a huge waste of tax dollars yet ALL of them could have been solvent for our lifetime had we not insisted on these useless "defense" programs and wars.
Scramjet is completely different than missile defense programs and dummy ICBM's being wasted. Scramjet is a technology that could potentially increase our feasibility of cheaper exploration of space and faster transportation. I guess Scramjet falls under that useless "science" category huh?
Remember, It's a democracy and we can voice our opinions just like you. Dissent and questioning government is the only defense and expectation of a true democracy.
If Bush didn't want us to think his policies were useless then its up to that man to turn those views around. I'm tired of the pointless defenses of this man without any sustenance.
If your not a right-winger or a neo-con I must apologize. However as a citizen of this country and someone who is fitting the bill for our government my voice should be heard and democracy doesn't mean the blind leading the blind.
Certain problems exist with simply end-tasking explorer.exe with Windows. What happens if explorer.exe has issues when it starts up? Just doing an End Task/End Process on it will cause it to restart, and bounce into the same problem again.
True - but this exists under KDE as well.. if kdm is in a loop of crashing because of something crashing it or a bad configuration setting your in the same boat. You can just as easily kill the bad process or startup regedit or run a regcleaner on windows to recover as you could kill kdm and cleanup your confs from a shell prompt on linux/unix.
Why does explorer also decide to restart every application that it normally would on startup, yet fails to re-iconify basic system services into the system tray? This leads to increased memory usage and the user having to log out and log back in just to get their volume controls back. To be properly effective during a restart, Explorer must detect and re-iconify any application that resides in the system tray. Those that are not, and exist only in the system tray, will not be retrievable unless those icons reappear.
Behavior for explorer.exe is different on 2k/xp and xp with sp2. With sp2 i have no issues restarting explorer and everything coming back to life - even the taskbar and startup iconsl.. anything previous to sp2/xp..
I don't generally have a problem with windows crashing unless i'm farting around with it - and this same farting around in linux often casuses the same crashes.
A good admin will keep a windows box running as long as any linux box these days..
For me, on EVERY system i've had over the past 2-3 years KDE/Linux or Gnome/LINUX crashes more than Windows. HARD crashes.
These are systems ofcourse running gimp, or wine, or openoffice and playing games such as UT2k4 and Doom 3 - So they're getting heavy use.
Getting back to the bug discussion my point was that with all the fluff both operating systems have the same crashing habits.. Add in overclocking, hacking, cracked programs and or anything else to the mix (such as a poor admin or newbie end user) and the risk of crashes jumps 1000 times..
KDE can "krash" a system just as bad - if not worse than XP/Windows with explorer.exe running.
Windows has been recoverable to a great extend since 2k by ctrl-alt-deleting and killing explorer.exe - if it doesn't restart then ctrl-alt-del - file - new task/run -> type "explorer.exe" and voila your desktop is back..
This is really comparing apples to oranges without even being able to open up the orange to have a peek at anyhow.
Infact they make much more then that. ERP is lucrative business - believe me. I've been working on these systems for 6+ years now.
When i worked for Oracle - even the most basic project was a 2-5 million dollar project and that was before montly/yearly support plans and extended consulting fees.
There is money to be made, but also technology to be learned from. Peoplesoft has its HR roots and JD Edwards has its MRP/Manufacturing roots that oracle could learn tons from.
I'm still not sure of what your talking about. Wireless is wireless - they all have the same limitations of range, line of sight and bandwidth. Cellular/PCM is at its limits, but being greatly expanded through 3G and other services.
While it would be great to have VoiP over "wireless" you still have the same network problems you have as PCM/Cellular calls. (irregardless of bandwidth)
If you want a bluetooth or 802.11 phone, lookup cisco's phones. However they're not free-roaming or networked and require a base station and cost an arm and a leg. My 2ghz and 5ghz home phones work great with VoIP so free-roaming at home is useless.
Bluetooth itself is a "short" wireless protocol - not mean to contact anything but a few feet away from you.. Cell towers can be miles away and still picked up.
Going back to Vonage i'd say they're great. First service getting better, getting cheaper and keeping me in touch and providing quality services without f'ng me on the rates. Video over IP would be interesting and i'm glad they're researching what it takes.
I just don't think there is the money to be made on remaking a global network of wireless spots or relying on a patch-work of hotspots just yet. T-Mobile is getting close, so that may change.
Let me get this straight - your Vonage service is nearly flawless (rare & lucky), while your cell service sucks, so you don't want Vonage service on your "cell" phone to replace it? And IP video has been around for years, failed in your Houston startup, but will take off now? No wonder you can pull stats about 99% of new Treo owners first 2-3 days experience, and say things like "it does so much it's useless". Forgive me when I don't take your criticism of these technologies seriously.
Yes, my vonage service is nearly flawless. I havn't had any downtime that prohibited me from making a call and the only poor call service i had was because of network failures on the behalf of Comcast. I live in Amish country so if it works out here this good, i can't imagine it being much worse anywhere else.
Cell phone service is shady at best. And no, i don't necessarily want Vonage on my cell phone since there isn't a cell phone network broadcasing IP with the latency to handle voice calls correctly that is affordable. I drive to Delaware on a daily basis - s well as frequent baltimore, washington and philly.. all of these cell networks are shady at best. I hate it, my wife hates it and so does everyone else i know up here.
I've had "gimmick" phones left and right - including earlier treo's, earlier kyocera smartphones (palm os) and even some of the Windows CE phones. They were all fun to "fart around with" but sucked having them hanging off my belt. One camera "phone" was about the size of a 4x6 photo and said "say cheese" when it took photos.. cute.. for about 5 minutes.
There are ofcourse "power users" that will use the Treo.. i thought i was one being the ubber geek i am, but it just wasn't worth the hassle. From not having USB access at work, to poor battery life, OS crashes or simply too much for the task i need to do and never enough time to fart around with what i thought i wanted to do with the thing.
Networks Online was an ISP, and they worked with CuSeeMe to host the software as a service. NOL was bought up, traded and still operates to some extent.. that wasn't the point of my message either - just showing its been done.
I'm also not sure what your point is..
Would you want to hold a cell phone in front of you to talk on it with video? Does your cell phone work while your driving, in buildings or in cities surrounded by noise and building blocking your cignal? Does your vonage really have as many dropped calls as your cell phone?
Believe me.. i've had them all. Sprint, Cingular, AT&T, Nextel, Houston Cellular, Verizon, and countless others. My vonage service has been much more reliable, much more affordable and MUCH more responsive to my needs and actually has IMPROVED and gotten CHEAPER over the years - unlike cell phone networks.
Seems braindead from my perspective to abandon everythig we work from.
Everyone thought AMD was stupid for 64bit X86, but its worked, and so well that Intel is following soot. No code retooling necessary unless you want specific new features - allowing a smooth migration path and a cost-effective solution.
Uhh.. isn't that "Video on Demand
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AKA Pay Per View - which is HIGHLY successfull and RAPIDLY exploding market. (Making cable companies millions)
Sure, its taken 9-10 more years to become standard but its here:)
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I know people who don't know squat about PC's but they still install Quicktime and Realplayer and WinDVD and powerDVD and whatever else they get.
If anything Apple should be shot for there proprietary iTunes system, quicktime plugin and such. Atleast with WMP you can configure it to work with seevral different stores, all different formats (with the purchase of 3rd party codecs such as divx, dvd and even open source codecs)..
Hell, when you buy a PC the vendor can install whatever he/she wants. You have a choice - microsoft isn't stopping you from making your own decisions.
HOWEVER they shouldn't be punished for providing a feature that you CHOSE to pay for in there core OS.
After all its YOU choosing not to use something that could potentially be better or offer more features.
Pack-ins have never meant monopolies.
A monopoly would be microsoft prohibiting real video from making a client. A monopoly would be blocking winDVD and powerdvd from market share (or any other add-on vendor)
Instead all of these companies making media players are making millions. Real is highly succesfull with Listen.com services, Windvd and powerdvd sell millions and infact WMP required a 3rd party purchased DVD program for playback and i'm sure that made people happy.
WMP 10 even offers competing stores in its player.
OS/2 had a media player befor Windows - was that a monopoly? The entire workplace shell was integrated as everything was an object in essence so while IBM shipped a standard plugin you chould choose to run whatever you wanted in the end run - no diference then microsoft.
Heck, IBM was also the first to ship a web browser with the OS.
OS/2 defigned more of the market then Microsoft could ever take credit for and just goes to prove that microsoft had better marketing and i'm sure some nasty tactics to win the market - however they're not being anti-competitive by including basic features as a part of the os.
You see, it hasn't hurt me.
I chose to run windows. I also chose to run OS/2 and i also chose to run Linux and Solaris.
I chose to use Internet explorer and i chose to use Netscape and now i choose to use Firefox.
I also chose to use windows media player over everything else and i agree that the media player should be fully integrated with the OS because that is a feature we as in windows users request just as sound in kde/linux is done.
I don't think there is any injustice in the practices the EU are suing for. I don't want the EU suing so anoter crappy business (Real Audio) can get in with spyware and take over my pc - if anything Microsof thas been the most cooth over keeping things clean and protecting your consumer rights.
Server code doesn't need to be shared either. Thats like telling Oracle they need to share there IP because other databases that are emulating them are having to hack support or use proprietary systems.
Please tell me how microsoft has and continues to stimmy competition, the market and harm consumers?
Tell me again how the government suing microsoft in this case and the others will benefit the tax payers paying for these suits?
The "greed and deceit" of microsoft pales in comparison to the issues governments on both sides of the pond should be attacking.
It just seems like a waste of time and so 5 years ago. Market has changed, economy has changed and believe it or not there is competition and i don't think any of these lawsuits had anything to do with building the open market we have today.
Remember, this lawsuit and appeal will only affect people who choose to support microsoft products. This doesn't make linux or apple more prevelant. This doesn't stop contracts with vendors and this doesn't do much to open windows up.
I don't get it how the governments on both sides have attacked microsoft for being closed, proprietary and "cheating" the system with the hooks and features they only know about yet companies like SCO are suing for billions to try and make sure that it's code remains proprietary, remains closed and remains controlled.
doesn't make sense
Well, thats if we had the exports to boot. The issue with your sceneorio is that not only is the dollar falling, but so our exports. Our trade deffecit is increasing - not falling. Instead of better deals, we see to be accepting inflation as a fix.
The US dollar is falling, so its highly doubtfull LCD tv's will fall that much unless they decide to saturate the market and cut earnings.
3 new LCD plants have opened that i'm aware of so we may get lucky and see that saturation..
HOWEVER, Buyer-Be-Ware - Not all tv's are the same. Look at those resulutions, refresh rates and pixel speeds before forking out the cash. Make sure you only buy from a place with a satisfaction guarantee & warranty.
not to mention 99.99999 percent of "consumer" printers are wildly off calibration so you would never or should never calibrate your monitor according to what comes out of your printer...
Open minded doesn't mean they necessarily agree with you - just that they see things differently then you.
:)
Put a 100 liberals in the room and no one will speak ot one another.. stick 100 righties in a room and you have an organized gang..
just the way it seems to work. "No 2 thinkers, think alike"
yeah, i hate it too - but it works. Keeps those "one timers" who come in just to hammer the board with crap and then get re-prompted for a login they most likely forgot before and have to go through a registration process again and usually just give up..
Ofcourse you could also just regenerate the cookies bsaed upon post scoring - for example if people get modded up lengthen cookie time and such because there is some trust being given.
Give a reward for participation of sorts
But DoS attacks as well. Running several political blogs I often get "freeped"
:)
The best solution for me:
1. User email address verification
2. server generated images to verify real user for registration
3. Regular cookie expiration after x amount of time
4. host filtering (referr filtering usually gets ride of "freepers" unless they open a new window
However - nothing beats good moderators, quality users and sticking to your nich. Don't go pissing people off tossing your blog around the world yourself and not expect to get anything in return.
It's a jungle out there
Why Use trillian?
1. Its simple.
2. It auto-updates now with 3.0
3. Very customizeable
4. Great plugin support
5. Feature rich
6. Fast/Efficient
7. Well known
I can go on and on. I use trillian for the above reasons and the superb support and almost up to the minute fixes for bugs/network changes and such.
There is a reason you pay for software or use the free variants thereof. The service trillian offers ontop of a great IM client is worth the cause.
And you can already get 4 gig flash cards.
I have a few legacy servers just around for my use and i don't want to pay for the upgrade and downtime..
anyone know of any ensim pro updates or packages someone has continued to build for this setup?
(or possibly redhat 7.3 updates..??)
thanks!
wtf are you talking about?
Cause:
A goal or principle served with dedication and zeal: "the cause of freedom versus tyranny" (Hannah Arendt).
Agenda:
A list or program of things to be done or considered: "They share with them an agenda beyond the immediate goal of democratization of the electoral process" (Daniel Sneider).
A Cause for Democracy is completely different than an Aegnda for Americans. Sorry you can't see the difference..
If anyone was throwing propaganda, you sure hit it on the head with a nail. Defamation of character with no merit.. your spot on!
woooo go tiger!
Why did we spend MILLIONS for GPS location policies on Cell phones if we're going to shutdown GPS when its most needed? (post 9/11)
Why are we speaking of shutting down the tried and true radio becaons in lieu of GPS only to shut it down again, when it's most needed?
Transportation, Environmental Protection, Hobbyists and professionals alike rely upon and use GPS daily. Shutting them down or any attempt thereof is only points for the "terrorists"
How much time before Bush bans Rand McNally Maps & Globes?
Typical of right-wingers with an agenda instead of a cause.
You see the Agenda we can't stand is the smoke & mirrors of these projects. You know the smoke that a missile defense "shield" will make us stronger/"safer" and the mirror that the failure of the program that Bush wants isn't Bush's fault. Take a vote, and I bet the public would drop this for the pork project it is.
If this were a cause, it would be an international & consorted effort of defense of democracies against known enemies and terrorist groups. Instead it's an agenda to line the pockets of specific groups and agenda makers.
Instead we're told pork-barrel projects such as Social Security, Medicare, Health-Care and welfare are a huge waste of tax dollars yet ALL of them could have been solvent for our lifetime had we not insisted on these useless "defense" programs and wars.
Scramjet is completely different than missile defense programs and dummy ICBM's being wasted. Scramjet is a technology that could potentially increase our feasibility of cheaper exploration of space and faster transportation. I guess Scramjet falls under that useless "science" category huh?
Remember, It's a democracy and we can voice our opinions just like you. Dissent and questioning government is the only defense and expectation of a true democracy.
If Bush didn't want us to think his policies were useless then its up to that man to turn those views around. I'm tired of the pointless defenses of this man without any sustenance.
If your not a right-winger or a neo-con I must apologize. However as a citizen of this country and someone who is fitting the bill for our government my voice should be heard and democracy doesn't mean the blind leading the blind.
Now that we control them
errr
Now that they're our allies they are our friends!
True - but this exists under KDE as well.. if kdm is in a loop of crashing because of something crashing it or a bad configuration setting your in the same boat. You can just as easily kill the bad process or startup regedit or run a regcleaner on windows to recover as you could kill kdm and cleanup your confs from a shell prompt on linux/unix.
Behavior for explorer.exe is different on 2k/xp and xp with sp2. With sp2 i have no issues restarting explorer and everything coming back to life - even the taskbar and startup iconsl.. anything previous to sp2/xp..
I don't generally have a problem with windows crashing unless i'm farting around with it - and this same farting around in linux often casuses the same crashes.
A good admin will keep a windows box running as long as any linux box these days..
And whats your point?
For me, on EVERY system i've had over the past 2-3 years KDE/Linux or Gnome/LINUX crashes more than Windows. HARD crashes.
These are systems ofcourse running gimp, or wine, or openoffice and playing games such as UT2k4 and Doom 3 - So they're getting heavy use.
Getting back to the bug discussion my point was that with all the fluff both operating systems have the same crashing habits.. Add in overclocking, hacking, cracked programs and or anything else to the mix (such as a poor admin or newbie end user) and the risk of crashes jumps 1000 times..
Not true at all.
KDE can "krash" a system just as bad - if not worse than XP/Windows with explorer.exe running.
Windows has been recoverable to a great extend since 2k by ctrl-alt-deleting and killing explorer.exe - if it doesn't restart then ctrl-alt-del - file - new task/run -> type "explorer.exe" and voila your desktop is back..
This is really comparing apples to oranges without even being able to open up the orange to have a peek at anyhow.
Infact they make much more then that. ERP is lucrative business - believe me. I've been working on these systems for 6+ years now.
When i worked for Oracle - even the most basic project was a 2-5 million dollar project and that was before montly/yearly support plans and extended consulting fees.
There is money to be made, but also technology to be learned from. Peoplesoft has its HR roots and JD Edwards has its MRP/Manufacturing roots that oracle could learn tons from.
I'm still not sure of what your talking about. Wireless is wireless - they all have the same limitations of range, line of sight and bandwidth. Cellular/PCM is at its limits, but being greatly expanded through 3G and other services.
While it would be great to have VoiP over "wireless" you still have the same network problems you have as PCM/Cellular calls. (irregardless of bandwidth)
If you want a bluetooth or 802.11 phone, lookup cisco's phones. However they're not free-roaming or networked and require a base station and cost an arm and a leg. My 2ghz and 5ghz home phones work great with VoIP so free-roaming at home is useless.
Bluetooth itself is a "short" wireless protocol - not mean to contact anything but a few feet away from you.. Cell towers can be miles away and still picked up.
Going back to Vonage i'd say they're great. First service getting better, getting cheaper and keeping me in touch and providing quality services without f'ng me on the rates. Video over IP would be interesting and i'm glad they're researching what it takes.
I just don't think there is the money to be made on remaking a global network of wireless spots or relying on a patch-work of hotspots just yet. T-Mobile is getting close, so that may change.
Let me get this straight - your Vonage service is nearly flawless (rare & lucky), while your cell service sucks, so you don't want Vonage service on your "cell" phone to replace it? And IP video has been around for years, failed in your Houston startup, but will take off now? No wonder you can pull stats about 99% of new Treo owners first 2-3 days experience, and say things like "it does so much it's useless". Forgive me when I don't take your criticism of these technologies seriously.
Yes, my vonage service is nearly flawless. I havn't had any downtime that prohibited me from making a call and the only poor call service i had was because of network failures on the behalf of Comcast. I live in Amish country so if it works out here this good, i can't imagine it being much worse anywhere else.
Cell phone service is shady at best. And no, i don't necessarily want Vonage on my cell phone since there isn't a cell phone network broadcasing IP with the latency to handle voice calls correctly that is affordable. I drive to Delaware on a daily basis - s well as frequent baltimore, washington and philly.. all of these cell networks are shady at best. I hate it, my wife hates it and so does everyone else i know up here.
I've had "gimmick" phones left and right - including earlier treo's, earlier kyocera smartphones (palm os) and even some of the Windows CE phones. They were all fun to "fart around with" but sucked having them hanging off my belt. One camera "phone" was about the size of a 4x6 photo and said "say cheese" when it took photos.. cute.. for about 5 minutes.
There are ofcourse "power users" that will use the Treo.. i thought i was one being the ubber geek i am, but it just wasn't worth the hassle. From not having USB access at work, to poor battery life, OS crashes or simply too much for the task i need to do and never enough time to fart around with what i thought i wanted to do with the thing.
Networks Online was an ISP, and they worked with CuSeeMe to host the software as a service. NOL was bought up, traded and still operates to some extent.. that wasn't the point of my message either - just showing its been done.
I'm also not sure what your point is..
Would you want to hold a cell phone in front of you to talk on it with video? Does your cell phone work while your driving, in buildings or in cities surrounded by noise and building blocking your cignal? Does your vonage really have as many dropped calls as your cell phone?
Believe me.. i've had them all. Sprint, Cingular, AT&T, Nextel, Houston Cellular, Verizon, and countless others. My vonage service has been much more reliable, much more affordable and MUCH more responsive to my needs and actually has IMPROVED and gotten CHEAPER over the years - unlike cell phone networks.
Why re-tool?
Seems braindead from my perspective to abandon everythig we work from.
Everyone thought AMD was stupid for 64bit X86, but its worked, and so well that Intel is following soot. No code retooling necessary unless you want specific new features - allowing a smooth migration path and a cost-effective solution.
AKA Pay Per View - which is HIGHLY successfull and RAPIDLY exploding market. (Making cable companies millions)
:)
Sure, its taken 9-10 more years to become standard but its here