Look at BSD, look at Linux, and look and Windows IP Stacks.
They're all different. Sure the actuall "communication" works, but most people claim BSD IP stack as the standard, and others always speak of the Windows IP stack or how linux is just hacked together (which is the reason many people believe freebsd is better, but that is another story).
So how could one claim in this "Standards" war of the new millenium that one group is right over another. Sure Mozilla may be standardized, but hell the linux components are changing every 2 seconds. You can't publish fast and publish early and still maintain a standardized system, chaos is NOT standardization my friend.
Atleast Windows as a product line standardized on the Windows IP stack. A win31 app works on a Windows 2000 stack and that what microsoft has kept. Sure new features have been added, but again, what is considered a standard. Is TCPIP as a whole standardized? Nope. I can't load BSD stack in linux without horkin the internals of the OS and simply just acknowledging tcpip data streams is not standards compliance (as we have all made it aware that microsoft products are not standards compliant because they change or add features).
So tell me my friend. What does standardized mean? Does it mean a bunch of overly paid fat asses sitting around and deciding our future or does it mean the acceptance by a consumer or product group that is widely used and established and commited? Sounds like the sitting around doesn't do jack, yet the people building a stable product such as the BSD stack or the MSIE browser or the Mozilla Browser or the Posix standards actually get work done.
So in slashdot world, conformatiy is standardization, and being unique and innovating is illegal and antitrust.
Isn't this a great time to live?
The Universe is bigger then Christianity.
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While i don't deteste anyones beliefs, i just feel people need to open up there eyes and take in what is around them.
People should be sent to see Niagra
People should gaze into the skies
People should play in the snow
People should go to the beach
Living is life, religion is your beliefs. Life != religion and Morals != religion either.
More people have died and more civilizations and societies have dissapeared because of ones "religious" belifes. I only know of a few people that died from looking at a waterfall or watching the skies or playing at the beach.
Lets not make life Moral or Ethnic or Religious, lets make life Freedom, Choice and Living. Life is not religion and you can't think of religion being life since most religions don't accept other living organisms as practicing when they to are alive and living. Its too bad my cats are only animals to most religions whenever they're really just furry loving lil people under a different disguise..
maybe i should be buddah or somethin:) but you get my point. If the way people live is to seperate themselves from society and be on the move well then maybe some people are just nomadic and getting back into the 21st century lifestyle of an 18th century nomad.
But i tell you what. Your work life can suck, your girlfriend can ditch you, but to just look around you and watch things for a bit you just can't help but feel small, you can't help but wonder what is around you and how things work and what life is.
Its people that don't care that have lost it. It is the people who don't wonder, who don't think and who gave up that ruin it for everyone else. Its the people who don't have any money that result to crime that bring down the people who work for the lil things that keep them going. I can go on and on, but for one simple matter of fact, its the grip of the lost hope that is making everyone else loose hope.
Now what benchmarks actually make use and what motherboards actually support these CPU's to its fullest?
I don't think AMD's cpu's are being optimized fully by any software/driver and hardware combination yet. The world is yet still waking up from Wintel and i'm sure with more optimizations, better memory to cpu bus and better motherboards on the horizon the same chip will outperform intel counterparts.
oh geez yes, lets listen to the RIAA, put my ass in jail for listening to music i could easily record off the radio or borrow from a friend, but let the fucken rapists and gang bangers and gun running criminals have a hay day.
wtf has this planet come to? Charge for speech but let people who do the real crime run free because real crime keeps corporate america on its feet (wonder how many insurance companies would exist if people were shot for stealing.. how many.. i know the RIAA would loose about 23% of its profits if people were not constantly buying 2nd/3rd copies of there cd's and tapes after being robbed/stolen/broken or missing somehow).
So how about we start our own litigation group to force our rights and freedoms and first ammedments rather then listen to some people who make money off other peoples livliehood and raise crackhead children to run the underground and criminalized music scene?
People are supposed to evolve, a community is built around music and the ideas behind that music. I for one listen to it for my own reasons, and i could care less how rich someone else gets.. the same goes for my job, i work for someone elses reasons and i don't have anyone litigating in court to protect my job and my publishings and my speech, so wtf should musicians get any better treatment? Insure your success by being who you are. People by Tool music to hear Maynord sing, people listen to Prince to see his crazy acts, girlies like the backsteet boys because they're cute. Nothing the RIAA does or will do can change that, so why today in a market that exists like this would artists dip into there earnings to protect the interests of corporate america and why do they think it benifets themselves to screw the very people that have probably purchased there music anyhow? Maybe i pirated it, but my friend bought it because he never heard it, or maybe i didn't have any money but i'm enjoying it.
People steal my shit all the time, and the police for sure could care less, and the mayors and people who can make decisions live pretty and don't see what goes on until its too late.
So "pirate on" and do whatever your heart desires. Until the government can uphold our rights as a citizen of the states, i won't respect the rights of corporatism and political wheelin and deeling persons.
BTW, i paid 50.00 to see NIN and Perfect Circle.. you bet i took my recorder with me to have an archive of something i paid for. (and btw, yes.. someone stole the 35.00 shirt they stiffed everyone for).
So RIAA, quit crying, and i hope to god none of my tax money supports your group.
Well, as you are all well aware of, dot.com's are going through money like nothing. Sure it is *great* publicity to have 4,000 servers witn another 2,000 coming online.
But damn, that takes a staff of 200 people to manage the security/connectivity/accounts/space and other duties just for the cluster.
The Power bill has to be outrageous!
The Cabling/switching/routing mess has to be totally unmanageable
What happens when you reach a buck in the hardware or have to patch the system or replace a kernel because of a hack that came about? It is costly and hellish to work on 4-6,000 pcs
I would have thought it to be wiser to setup Sun E10000's or something like that.. having 4 32 proc e 100000's in a cluster is a hell of alot easier to manage and cheaper. Sure your upfront bill may be more, but only have to worry about 8-16 power connections (redudancy) is alot easier then 6,000 power cords/strips/racks/floor space/cooling/maintenance.
Sure it is one hell of a beast to be proud of, but one hellova costly beast to work with.
What *IS* the deal? The PS2 is NOT even released in the US yet the X-BOX is already trying to compeat against it?
Hey people... The DreamCast is already out and i bet the games are many times better on the DC. The graphics on the PS2 are nothing to run home about.. for the same price as a PS2 i can get an 700mhz athlon MB and TNT 2 card and get better results!
I hate to say it, but please talk about competition with products that are released. The PS2 is Competing against the DC in japan and 5 months from now it will finally be *ABLE* to compete with the DreamCast (which will have 10 million units by then..).
So when speaking of competition, atleast be real! The Dreamcast, N64 and Playstation are all that are competing in the US. 5 Months from now you will be able to talk about the PS2 competing, until then.. don't dog either product as BOTH or nothing but piss in the wind for US people.
Actually you got it wrong with OS/2. IBM licensed the Windows API and early Win32's. They never reversed engineered anything as they were once in partnership.
Add to the list of Wine products "Project Odin" which takes it one step futher and allows you to convert the Win32 binary into an OS/2 Binary alongside emulating the program or providing the winelib interface to the OS/2 presentation manager
Had IBM done the marketing Win32's as we know it today would be a subset of OS/2.. But IBM lost its balls and lost the os market to Microsoft.
But it is interesting how this is an achievement, soon 64 big computing will be out and another 7 years later we will be emulating the win64's:)
I don't know how many times its been thrown out that OS/2 is dead. As of lately there have been some interesting developments that will let OS/2 live as long as linux and windows exist.
Netlabs.Org s a great starting point for people interested in OS/2. Not only do they have Project Odin But they also have many other interesting developments. Project ODIN is the PE to LX converter that allows Windows 95/98/NT binaries to be converted or ran natively on OS/2. There is a new SB Live driver that has been ported from Linux that also created a new library and code to allow OpenSound modules to be used in OS/2. (FIlling in the sound card gap) and alas there is a small passthrough driver that makes WinOS2 think you have a SB 16 installed so that no matter what soundcard you have as your OS/2 driver you won't have to find those tricky "WinOS2" drivers.. just use this "passthrough" one.
On another note, Papyrus 8 was just released. It really is a nice tight/integrated "Office" suite that still fits on 3 floppy disks (yes it does hehe) and PMview 2000 is coming out with a new version.
The most interesting note is the integration of Warp Server E-Business codebase with that of OS2 Warp 4. This was done through Fixpack 13. If you upgrade to Fixpack 13 your not limited to the 528 megs addressable space anymore, you have the 32bit KEE extensions for 32 bit filesystem driverws (such as jfs) and there are many more updates and new addons available.
On top of that a great company called scitech has released video drivers for TNT, TNT2, Geforce, 3dfx (all versions) and Matrox (all versions) cards that make the graphics fly. OpenGL and MGL acclerated support are available as well. (i believe the url is http://www.scitechsoft.com for this company).
As well as having the fastest Java implementation around, one of the best Dos/Windows and OS2 environment easiest to port to platforms, i don't know why ibm would kill it. The device drivers are there, the end users wishing for a new version are there.. and why would they continue to add 32 bit BSD based ip stacks, SMP and server related systems to kill it a measly 12 months from now?
Interesting indeed, but as usuall looks like a laywer and a business need to review this "Future plan" for OS/2 and see what it really means. I can't see IBM telling a bank to redo everything in java when there is NO support for java other then stock tickers and web page games..
And boy howdy, how sweet of a development platform Visual Age C++ 4.0 for OS/2 is once they iron out the bugs.. use the Open API and your app will compile under NT as well.. woah, offer a choice who would have ever thought of that!
I too spent a few months too long working at IDT. The conditions were rough, i worked 10-12 hours a day, was on call/page/electronic leash and was scheduled 6-7 days a week depending on how dark the circles around my eyes were and how many times i had to answer my pager the night before.
For a company that offers so many services, i don't know where the money is going to, i don't know how the CEO is featured as such a bright person and i don't know how or why anyone would use there products and services.
It wasn't until after i quit and they canceld my last paycheck and caused my life to be hell even more that i relized i was better off with IDT out of my life.
Now as the sr systems administrator, being stiffed like that i can only imagine how they would treat a customer. I wouldn't do it, i wouldn't recommend it. Sure IDT had some very nice people.
But there is no way in hell i will work for nore support the ultimate goal of someone elses dream to make millions from spreading yourself and your life soooo thin. Thats all. The answer is simple. If you want to be a long distance company then start a long distance company. Don't sell yourself as a long distance, pager, calling card, internet, e-commerce, network backbone, net2phone, 1800, 1900, systems integration, co-location, security, tech support and integration company without staffing the company and providing for the company and making sure that your employees are provided for so that you can actually ship atleast one quality service.
So my simple answer, idt is spread to thin, employees work for some unknown pie in the sky and while that 38.00 you spent might help them short term i hope they just shut doors so people can get on with what we call LIFE.
While this may be a bit off topic, it is sure one hell of a good reason to choose something better. After all making people pay to contact you sounds too much like an IDT product:) Its the IDT motto "Stiff your friends because it will make you money"
You should have gone with Digex for your webhosting machines. They have a secure network, secure facilities and all the hardware/software/monitoring in place and managed as a service.
Exodus is full of people that don't pay or want the world for nothing. Digex on the other hand has great support, strict security and very effecient services. (No restrictions on bandwitdth, backup hardware/routers/nics/switches and enough power to last weeks after a nuclear strike:)
Wasn't it just 2 days ago when everyone cried wolf how the new Unreal Engine is DX8 Based and then the sun was shinning as people stated Wine will/has support for DX subset.
Did you forget Corel is the biggest supporter of Wine and dedicates developers full time to that project?
Ever wonder how it is becoming so easy to integrate KDE 2.0 and Windows/NT machines through SMB
Did you forget Corel is the biggest linux vendor working on linux integration with Windows? They were the first to implement SMB in the gui with a library and they're happily and non hastily following the license and passing along the code to KDE developers.
Ever wonder how Debian is getting alot of publicity?
Did you forget Corel linux is based on Debian? The standard for the non standard linux?
How can you consider Corel to be riding "The Linux Bandwagon" When Corel is one of the FEW, if the ONLY vendor producing a commercially viable and professionally packaged versions of the Linux OS for WORKSTATION and PERSONAL USE.
Corel doesn't claim to be the server centric sun ball busting software. They do claim ease of use and with that comes the unleashed power of a unix based system.
A full office package, a great v 1.0 integrated and effecient OS, a full distribution and support and retail channel that reaches from the internet to the local software store. And all you can do is bash them?
BORLAND oth has been nothing but a dissapointment and i'm glad they didn't mix. Delphi is good, but pascal is the last thing that needs to be mixed in with linux. and i highly doubt Borland would be much of an adopter of the KDE/Gnome interface and interope with the right people to do what linux people think is right.
Please stop shooting yourself in the foot and crying fowl just because of what the common notion is. I'm so sick of people not thinking for themselves. It seems to be the whole linux bandwagon is an extremest advocate gone afoul. While for some people it is the perfect solution, on the other hand, its only confused the industry that has created it and is the first to cry foul when someone doesn't follow the unwritten rules and justices of the "linux" system.
So you want to establish a consortium of people who believe in something. This requires time, money and lawyers. Just because YOUR idea of a standard means a consortium, that doesn't mean it is MY idea nor ANYONE elses idea of a standard. Windows set the standard for today. Why else would gnome/kde be in such a hurry to copy it? Sure they use "open source" and "open standards" but Windows was built around Win32's, OLE and all the Windows Standards.
There is nothing wrong, nor abusive about standards. What microsoft is in trouble for is not having a closed api or a "politicized" standard, but for price gouging, license gouging, vendor contracts and bad business practices.
Java isn't a standard, everyone has there own concept of it, why don't we sue SUN for not having one? Sun had proprietary knowledge and developers that build it and can customize it for THERE os and THERE HARDWARE. Doesn't that sound kind of strange? Sure you get the source code if you want, but that doesn't stop sun from doing things behind closed doors.
The IBM PC isn't a standard either. Look at the major labels. Dell is the only one i know of that for business desktops uses replaceable components. HP's have crappy motherboards and proprietary miniature cases, Compaq's have disgusting bios's and really proprietary cheap ass hardware solutions. Just because it runs windows doesn't mean it followed some "pc standard" as i can emulate this and that and there is know "pc" standards body. Sure you have PCI folks, Vesa Groups and all sorts of other standards, but the Open source community cant afford the costs of Posix licensing/standardizing, ISO-9000 Certifications, Public meetings/relations/developer consortiums.
So tell me again, why people shouldn't use Directx 8? Is it because OpenGL is standardized by a company that is loosing money faster then a drunk tycoon at a slot machine? i mean what in the hell is going through you peoples brains? If you don't like a product, DON'T USE IT. You don't hear windows people bashing Linux/Unix users for there "standards" and you don't hear then crying wolf against sun for having an edge just the very same microsoft does. (YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT SUN DOESN'T PRICE GOUGE ON ITS HARDWARE/SOFTWARE/SUPPORT SOLUTIONS.) You can't tell me that a computer Sparc 5 should retail for 2900.00 while a pc with similar specs and tons more software and features runs for a 3'rd that price.
Sure microsoft has its own beliefs in xml/dhtml/html and whatever else, but who is to judge if that is right or wrong. Isn't that what your beliefs on standards are? follow the basics and add your own features to expand upon them. As you state that breaks the reasons for a standard. if the standard is to be followed, then ONE CHANGE by ONE VENDOR screws up the whole standard should that ONE VENDOR be the sole leader of that market. JUST like SGI & OpenGL, sure they're in with NVIDIA, but i guess that is alright since NVIDIA is a linux friendly company. Tell me howcome if NVIDIA follows a standard i can't replace it with another graphics card that follows the exact same "standard" you (*&#( think exists and have it work in the exact same fashion to the spec???
Get my point? Or do people just not think for themselves anymore? Got your head out of your ass yet? or did you think i said your head was up your ass because you run linux or did you think for a second and accept someones ideas or are you standardized on the notion that 'standards' are best and you can cry wolf when someone you don't like doesn't adopt it.
You totally missed my point. I don't care about the ethics of being open. SCREW THAT. People *CHOSE* Microsoft. Microsoft has NO responsibility to conform to ANYONE else but there OWN SELF. It is and always HAS been up to the consumer to choose what THEY WANT. Demand for something else has driven mac's, linux and other OS's out there, but the Demand for this "Opennes" that you preach about is BS. Its a CHOICE poeople. You DON'T like it. DON'T CHOOSE IT. DON'T preach to me about what is wrong or right.
Have you EVER tried mixing thise "clone" pc's you talk about? Have you ever seen the inside of a COMPAQ? They're not a clone. You can't replace the motherboard on 99% of them because they're proprietary. DO YOUR HOMEWORK before you preach to me about CLONES and this and that.
a COMPUTER is not defined as a PC CLONE, where in the world is that misnomer coming from?
I don't think SUN calls there workstations PC's and IBM had nothing to do with there creation, the market demanded a workstation and sun provided. Sure the 'clone' market exploded, but it exploded around a common software packag called DOS and then Windows and Then whatever it is today. ITs because people chose DOS and chose windows and chose whatever they want to run.
Please, get your head out of your ass and look around. Standards are just one group or one persons concept of anything. Microsoft has Microsoft Standards and maybe YOU don't agree with it, but don't give me the shpeel on how having 2000 variants can be anything good for the industry.
Should we sue telephone companies because we can't run our own protocols or signals on the network? Should we sue cable companies because they choose what we get to watch? Should we sue cars because they put the stereo to high or two low? The world would be boring if evertthing was standardized.
The dreamcast support directx as well. So it is far from fooslish to stick with DirectX when the licensing is virtually free (you get it with the compiler or when you license WinCE to develop the game).
So from one source base, and small code changes here and there you got Win95, Win98, Me, Win2000, Windows CE (Personal/Palm PC's), DreamCast and the soon to be released X-Box.
Windows still runs 99.9% of the consumer/business PC's, Dremcast has 4 million+ units shipped, and the X-box can claim more.
How is having a market of 20+ million customers a bad decision versus porting to linux and having to worry about licensing more so then quality?
You have got to be on crack! If linux is your platform, then run linux. Don't complain because people running Windows get/have what they want. Start your own company, but don't call someone elses software "crap" because it doesn't run on your os that YOU choose to run.
Unreal may have had its quircks, but Unreal Tournament is a very pioneering game and far from slow. Hell my 366 celeron witha 16 meg banshee runs hell of alot faster then 40fps. There is NO other off the shelf FPS title that does what unreal tournament does and with the 413 patches, no other FPS has the features nor network support that Unreal does.
If you want to run these games, get the platform they're written for. If you want to make money from these games in the linux world, then start a development company for linux software and tell the Windows users to go to hell.
Windows isn't any more buggy or harder to code for then Linux nor any other os out there either.
It's not that they can't do the "components" but they can't be an integral part of the OS. They cant standardized there OS around a specific component as most end users (ie, the ones bitching about windows) think that it is monopolistic to do so.
The problem here is again, a different stack here, a different browser here, a different protocol there, a different compression scheme here, a different xml engine there, a different ipsec here, and you get the point.
I could see microsoft being forced to allow its applications to run/be developed for OTHER platforms, but making win98/win2000 and future versions be broke up to replaceable components is DUMB. And that will cause problems.
P.S. You can diss glide, but it was 3dfx voodoo and glide that started the whole PC gaming era as we now it. Without them, we would all still have VLB 1 meg Cirrus Logics:)
Why the hell is the above rant "insightfull"? It didnt' make me appreciate anything, i didn't get any vision or hopes from it? Infact it was just one pissed off opinion from another person expressing his blatant choice in OS's.
Moderate it down, moderate correctly. I have to agreee with the other posts about moderation.. What the hell is going on here. enlighten me on what "If you stick your head in the ground and ignore or dismiss the negaive actions of powerful entities, they will have no recourse but to continue with that course of action, because it's obvious nobody cares. It's the same with your average eight-year old. " means. So it means now if you bust your ass working on linux stuff and some coroporation is still making millions life is good because your not an 8 year old? Gimme a break people. Microsoft is Microsoft, you people BOUGHT there software or COMPUTERS with it on there. You could have bought OS/2, Apples, or even kept the faith in very advanced for its day NeXT Boxes or BeBoxes. The consumer was the one putting there faith in Microsoft. Should we sue mcdonalds because it makes people fat and really taists like shit but the commercials make me buy it or because its the only joint on my bock its now unfair competition and they have to be sued until someone else with another shitty ass hamburger can come back in? My god. CHOICE PEOPLE! you chose a FUCKEN LAWYER to win your battle. Now think about that. You didn't choose NOT to run a Microsoft Product, you chose to waiste money on supporting a government that is just as unruely and unjust as any corporation that exists. Fear the capitalism? them move somewhere else or leave it be. DON'T take my choice! I still run Windows, I still run OS/2, i still use Linux. MY Choice. I didn't support nor write my legislature/senators to sue microsoft, that is BS. I didn't buy a distro because THAT is BS. Buying something that *IS* free for the sake of Support? If the INFORMATION is free, why would you NEED support? If it was intuitive enough, what would be so hard that you need support????? Why should redhat get my money moreso then microsoft? Atleast with microsoft i see Innovative features such as the highly popular portals/email/mapping systems, kick as gaming, ease of use, quick adaptation, forward looking and forward thinking design and gui concepts? I mean for the first time in computer la la land there is consistancy and a huge market.
And we want to distroy that because people are naive and want to accept freedoms and not be forced to choose? Microsoft didnt FORCE windows. Microsoft didn't FORCE anyting. They played the game and the lil boys lost.. wooopideee dooo. They aquired when nescape could have aquired. Why didn't netscape team up with IBM to compete with microsoft? I won't even go any further, as its pointless reall..
That is a pretty informative article. Are there any other sites your aware of that would be good to forward to local government and state representatives as a means to help alleviate alot of the problems with public transportation? I cant bitch and moan all i want, but the more studies and historic/geographic data i can send, i feel the better i can represent myself. Plus it would just be interesting reading, as i may want to move to a place that better suits my needs, after all why should i be paying property taxes to subsidize new roads for the gas guzzling SUV's and monster trucks? I think it would be interesting to actually develop resoureces that break down how people are blindly paying for all this stuff no matter what they do (walk/ride/drive, how your income is being used to subsidize drivers if you aren't one.. etc... etc..)
I ride my trusty Trek almost everywhere i go. The buses where i live are 1 an hour on each route, even further apart during non peak times. Most bus stops are non covered and costing from 1.10 to 3.45 each way, its not very economical for daily use.
What keeps towns from accepting people on bicycles? Why arent there more bike racks to lockup? What are commuter friendly towns? It looks like the big apple is (albeit not to clean nor safe at times) and Washington DC. DC seems to have the cleanest subway system i have ever seen, which is another factor in PT, how safe, how clean and how frequent the trips are. State college has a great, clean and frequent bus system. Anyone to write to that can help?
I make a great living, money is not a factor of why i dont want another car (gas, theft, insurance, loan interest, and i have all sorts of other gadgets and things i want to spend my money on besides another piece of metal that always has problems and seems to hold up a sign saying radomly break into me and cause my owner to have a living hell). I like riding my bike, i like being able to walk out to a subway and walk a block to where i want to be, i like catching the train to NYC and cabbing/subbing around town. For one, i save money, (parking is ridiculous), 2, less worries (will my car be there, will i get any tickets for whatever reason, is my insurance still valid, where is my insurance card, keys?).
I guess there are many reasons, but i find my life better spent and exponentially simpler without a car. (although very it is harder in some ways since i can't depend on pt...).
Is it just me, or is there some unknown force set upon us that makes us write about what is wrong and what is right?
The "Evil Empire" is now found guilty of marketing to a naive market, and now the AOL empire is going to be prosecuted for catching the other end of the Naive market???
SO were just going to sue *everyone* because they don't know better? Or because they think they have rights to be in business even if people don't want there goods and services??
That may be a bit off the wall, but so is this article. Who is slashdot or even ourselves to judge the 22 million people who appreciate AOL for the simplicity it offers
And most of all, why is AOL wrong for supporting Windows???? After all it *IS* the defacto standard UNTIL something better comes along that makes it easier and fundamentally more intuitive.
You people spend too much time bickering instead of deciding. There is no assembly of truth to operating systems and media giants. If there was to be a breakup, i'd still consider Cisco because they're practically the backbone of the internet, i'd still sue Bell Atlantic more so then AOL.
Everyone has there interests to protect the market they have cornered. And its lawyers and politicians that YOU vote in and YOU higher that give them this right. Laws or not, its YOUR decision and just because people are naive and want simplicity DOESN'T mean they're stupid nor does it mean a company should do whatever they can to refocus on linux because its better.. If it was better why are 22 million people NOT using it?
On the other hand, had this article not even brought up linux i would have considered it as being sightfull. But it plainly turned out to be dumb as Linux is NOT the reason AOL or Microsoft should be change. the Consumer and market is the reason. Had the market been fair, linux could have ousted Microsoft and AOL within a very short time span.. but nope.. we hire more people to make more laws or we just try and break the laws and bicker about how pointless they are.
either way, the linux people are playing just as shamefull as a game as any other business. Overly priced stocks, no profits,.com fever, network appliances, how many times can we reinvent the wheel? If microsoft wasn't innovative then why are we trying to duplicate the features? I would have thought linux would have engineered and new and improved way of computing.. but nope.. we sue or get the government to do it for us.. and now were looking at AOL for our next target.. NICE.. i'm proud to be an american, where atleast i know i'll never have job security no matter how productive or influential of a business i work for.
PS: I don't work for AOL or Time or Microsoft, but if i did, i'd be pissed if the government decides to take away what i worked so hard on for whatever reasons. (monopoly or not, you ARE talking about HUMANS with Respectfull JOBS and CHILDREN and FAMILIES TO FEED)
Hehe, you do have some good Points. But i don't believe this warrants anticompetitve lawsuits from the goverment.
Wine is a great project, but only came about as a means for linux to emulate the windows environment to run the windows applications. Wine by no means was a commercial effort to compete against windows or microsoft.
As far as closed API's has anyone ever tried writing a competing product to Oracle RDBMS that is compatible? Nope, can't be done, but do we Sue Oracle for that? I mean have you seen there new licensing schemes and how they rape the consumer?
How about Novell, do we get to sue them because nobody could make a compatible product? Weren't they the cause of the downfall of that good ol' company that made Banyan Vines and lantastic? Is it my right to sue Novell for that?
Unlike the majority of AC's here I do have a job and I do have systems to run. I don't have the time nor patience to sit back and make sure my grammar and spelling is 100% correct.
Besides, i feel its better when people express there opinions, and not the lack thereof. So go have fun shoving grits down your pants and let people with half a brain speak.
OTH, i'm not here to preach. Your freedom if ignorance is as much my freedom to speech. So have fun saying whatever you want to say. I'm not gonna stop you.
Tell me. As a consumer, how will i be any better off with Microsoft being sued? Driving the costs up because of lawsuits? Fragmenting a stable market with many more buggy programs?
I for one, USE linux. Let me say that again. I USE LINUX. and I also Use Microsoft. I don't consider them the Evil Empire, since in my time with computers i have used other OS's such as OS/2, FreeBSD and Solaris and for the Desktop *I* chose to run Windows.
I don't understand how people can pick at microsoft for writing the OS and the Applications. After Microsoft will sun be next? Will they have to split the processor division from there OS division? Doesn't that give them unfair advantage in the market? Or is it because the consumers who don't know about Sun and other Systems out there don't think to sue them too?
Flame me all you want, slashdot is about opinions and not about whats right or wrong.
But my opinion is, let them exist. Let the CONSUMER Choose. NOT a lawyer. I feel you are doing the BIGGEST Injustice by making my choices for me in court. Microsoft has NEVER prevented anyone from making a compatible system, had they done that it would have been anticompetitve. But simply existing without anything better or no one stepping up to the bat does not make microsoft an evil empire.
Sure some of you don't like the "Windows Tax" when you buy a new PC. But for the average consumer, why would they want to go out and choose something else that there friends or neighboors don't use? Why would someone want to choose something that is Niche when they can choose something that is a standard? Sure it may not be an OPEN standard, but gee golly sir when i go to the story and there is 400 games and 1000s of applications i can run on my computer. THAT IS A STANDARD!
I would feel sorry for the thousands of employees, the foundations that Gates supports, the 5,000+ college students that could loose scholarships, the grants and donations to the city and areas of which microsoft works (redmond receives lots of support from microsoft).
I'd feel sorry for all the ASP's, Developers and people who make a living off software because that is what the chose.
You have always had a right to choice. I'm just curios why you think it is YOUR right to make my choice now?
SGI, Sun, Sparc, Alpha, Mac, Amiga, RISC OS, RS2000, Aix, FreeBSD, NeXT, DOS, Novell DOS, CPM, TRS 80. They were all your choices. You chose a PC witch Built its foundation in Windows. You didn't Choose a 10,000 dollar Sparc to not run Solaris on it, so why should it be any different here. Like i said, Sun will be under the radar next, hell RedHat could get sued for anticompetive faults with Microsoft coming up and saying they're dumping there product for free to saturate the market.
I believe the rights of the consumer belong to the consumer, not to Hypocrites, people who are anal about things (fuck you to people who will pay more attention to my spelling rather then *MY* opinions).
Like i said, i use linux. I run HP-UX systems, i have a few dozen Sparcs, and yes i have 250 Windows Workstations on the floor and yes, i have a few dozen linux workstations. So yeah, as an educated consumer i know what fits MY bill. And my employees know what fits there own. So let it be.
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Its nice to see some new ports coming our way, but how about finishing up some existing ones? I know loki isn't responsible for UT, but come on people! Push out a port that supports sound, has better video support and on par with every other version. One of these days i hope i can once again play UT 405 and higher servers. heh
First off, i dunno why your moderated down to a troll, sounds like some Sony employees got moderator access for the day.
Back to your post:) Isn't it funny how Japan's news coverage was showing an awesome game playing on the monitors which turned out to be Shenmue for the DC. I guess it helps if the demo screens they show are for the console they're trying to demo!
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They're all different. Sure the actuall "communication" works, but most people claim BSD IP stack as the standard, and others always speak of the Windows IP stack or how linux is just hacked together (which is the reason many people believe freebsd is better, but that is another story).
So how could one claim in this "Standards" war of the new millenium that one group is right over another. Sure Mozilla may be standardized, but hell the linux components are changing every 2 seconds. You can't publish fast and publish early and still maintain a standardized system, chaos is NOT standardization my friend.
Atleast Windows as a product line standardized on the Windows IP stack. A win31 app works on a Windows 2000 stack and that what microsoft has kept. Sure new features have been added, but again, what is considered a standard. Is TCPIP as a whole standardized? Nope. I can't load BSD stack in linux without horkin the internals of the OS and simply just acknowledging tcpip data streams is not standards compliance (as we have all made it aware that microsoft products are not standards compliant because they change or add features).
So tell me my friend. What does standardized mean? Does it mean a bunch of overly paid fat asses sitting around and deciding our future or does it mean the acceptance by a consumer or product group that is widely used and established and commited? Sounds like the sitting around doesn't do jack, yet the people building a stable product such as the BSD stack or the MSIE browser or the Mozilla Browser or the Posix standards actually get work done.
So in slashdot world, conformatiy is standardization, and being unique and innovating is illegal and antitrust.
Isn't this a great time to live?
People should be sent to see Niagra
People should gaze into the skies
People should play in the snow
People should go to the beach
Living is life, religion is your beliefs. Life != religion and Morals != religion either.
More people have died and more civilizations and societies have dissapeared because of ones "religious" belifes. I only know of a few people that died from looking at a waterfall or watching the skies or playing at the beach.
Lets not make life Moral or Ethnic or Religious, lets make life Freedom, Choice and Living. Life is not religion and you can't think of religion being life since most religions don't accept other living organisms as practicing when they to are alive and living. Its too bad my cats are only animals to most religions whenever they're really just furry loving lil people under a different disguise..
maybe i should be buddah or somethin :) but you get my point. If the way people live is to seperate themselves from society and be on the move well then maybe some people are just nomadic and getting back into the 21st century lifestyle of an 18th century nomad.
But i tell you what. Your work life can suck, your girlfriend can ditch you, but to just look around you and watch things for a bit you just can't help but feel small, you can't help but wonder what is around you and how things work and what life is.
Its people that don't care that have lost it. It is the people who don't wonder, who don't think and who gave up that ruin it for everyone else. Its the people who don't have any money that result to crime that bring down the people who work for the lil things that keep them going. I can go on and on, but for one simple matter of fact, its the grip of the lost hope that is making everyone else loose hope.
I don't think AMD's cpu's are being optimized fully by any software/driver and hardware combination yet. The world is yet still waking up from Wintel and i'm sure with more optimizations, better memory to cpu bus and better motherboards on the horizon the same chip will outperform intel counterparts.
Just my 2 pence
wtf has this planet come to? Charge for speech but let people who do the real crime run free because real crime keeps corporate america on its feet (wonder how many insurance companies would exist if people were shot for stealing.. how many.. i know the RIAA would loose about 23% of its profits if people were not constantly buying 2nd/3rd copies of there cd's and tapes after being robbed/stolen/broken or missing somehow).
So how about we start our own litigation group to force our rights and freedoms and first ammedments rather then listen to some people who make money off other peoples livliehood and raise crackhead children to run the underground and criminalized music scene?
People are supposed to evolve, a community is built around music and the ideas behind that music. I for one listen to it for my own reasons, and i could care less how rich someone else gets.. the same goes for my job, i work for someone elses reasons and i don't have anyone litigating in court to protect my job and my publishings and my speech, so wtf should musicians get any better treatment? Insure your success by being who you are. People by Tool music to hear Maynord sing, people listen to Prince to see his crazy acts, girlies like the backsteet boys because they're cute. Nothing the RIAA does or will do can change that, so why today in a market that exists like this would artists dip into there earnings to protect the interests of corporate america and why do they think it benifets themselves to screw the very people that have probably purchased there music anyhow? Maybe i pirated it, but my friend bought it because he never heard it, or maybe i didn't have any money but i'm enjoying it.
People steal my shit all the time, and the police for sure could care less, and the mayors and people who can make decisions live pretty and don't see what goes on until its too late.
So "pirate on" and do whatever your heart desires. Until the government can uphold our rights as a citizen of the states, i won't respect the rights of corporatism and political wheelin and deeling persons.
BTW, i paid 50.00 to see NIN and Perfect Circle.. you bet i took my recorder with me to have an archive of something i paid for. (and btw, yes.. someone stole the 35.00 shirt they stiffed everyone for).
So RIAA, quit crying, and i hope to god none of my tax money supports your group.
But damn, that takes a staff of 200 people to manage the security/connectivity/accounts/space and other duties just for the cluster.
The Power bill has to be outrageous!
The Cabling/switching/routing mess has to be totally unmanageable
What happens when you reach a buck in the hardware or have to patch the system or replace a kernel because of a hack that came about? It is costly and hellish to work on 4-6,000 pcs
I would have thought it to be wiser to setup Sun E10000's or something like that.. having 4 32 proc e 100000's in a cluster is a hell of alot easier to manage and cheaper. Sure your upfront bill may be more, but only have to worry about 8-16 power connections (redudancy) is alot easier then 6,000 power cords/strips/racks/floor space/cooling/maintenance.
Sure it is one hell of a beast to be proud of, but one hellova costly beast to work with.
Just my 2 cents
Hey people... The DreamCast is already out and i bet the games are many times better on the DC. The graphics on the PS2 are nothing to run home about.. for the same price as a PS2 i can get an 700mhz athlon MB and TNT 2 card and get better results!
I hate to say it, but please talk about competition with products that are released. The PS2 is Competing against the DC in japan and 5 months from now it will finally be *ABLE* to compete with the DreamCast (which will have 10 million units by then..).
So when speaking of competition, atleast be real! The Dreamcast, N64 and Playstation are all that are competing in the US. 5 Months from now you will be able to talk about the PS2 competing, until then.. don't dog either product as BOTH or nothing but piss in the wind for US people.
Meanwhile get a DC and play some real games!
Add to the list of Wine products "Project Odin" which takes it one step futher and allows you to convert the Win32 binary into an OS/2 Binary alongside emulating the program or providing the winelib interface to the OS/2 presentation manager
Had IBM done the marketing Win32's as we know it today would be a subset of OS/2.. But IBM lost its balls and lost the os market to Microsoft.
But it is interesting how this is an achievement, soon 64 big computing will be out and another 7 years later we will be emulating the win64's :)
Netlabs.Org s a great starting point for people interested in OS/2. Not only do they have Project Odin But they also have many other interesting developments. Project ODIN is the PE to LX converter that allows Windows 95/98/NT binaries to be converted or ran natively on OS/2. There is a new SB Live driver that has been ported from Linux that also created a new library and code to allow OpenSound modules to be used in OS/2. (FIlling in the sound card gap) and alas there is a small passthrough driver that makes WinOS2 think you have a SB 16 installed so that no matter what soundcard you have as your OS/2 driver you won't have to find those tricky "WinOS2" drivers.. just use this "passthrough" one.
On another note, Papyrus 8 was just released. It really is a nice tight/integrated "Office" suite that still fits on 3 floppy disks (yes it does hehe) and PMview 2000 is coming out with a new version.
The most interesting note is the integration of Warp Server E-Business codebase with that of OS2 Warp 4. This was done through Fixpack 13. If you upgrade to Fixpack 13 your not limited to the 528 megs addressable space anymore, you have the 32bit KEE extensions for 32 bit filesystem driverws (such as jfs) and there are many more updates and new addons available.
On top of that a great company called scitech has released video drivers for TNT, TNT2, Geforce, 3dfx (all versions) and Matrox (all versions) cards that make the graphics fly. OpenGL and MGL acclerated support are available as well. (i believe the url is http://www.scitechsoft.com for this company).
As well as having the fastest Java implementation around, one of the best Dos/Windows and OS2 environment easiest to port to platforms, i don't know why ibm would kill it. The device drivers are there, the end users wishing for a new version are there.. and why would they continue to add 32 bit BSD based ip stacks, SMP and server related systems to kill it a measly 12 months from now?
Interesting indeed, but as usuall looks like a laywer and a business need to review this "Future plan" for OS/2 and see what it really means. I can't see IBM telling a bank to redo everything in java when there is NO support for java other then stock tickers and web page games..
And boy howdy, how sweet of a development platform Visual Age C++ 4.0 for OS/2 is once they iron out the bugs.. use the Open API and your app will compile under NT as well.. woah, offer a choice who would have ever thought of that!
For a company that offers so many services, i don't know where the money is going to, i don't know how the CEO is featured as such a bright person and i don't know how or why anyone would use there products and services.
It wasn't until after i quit and they canceld my last paycheck and caused my life to be hell even more that i relized i was better off with IDT out of my life.
Now as the sr systems administrator, being stiffed like that i can only imagine how they would treat a customer. I wouldn't do it, i wouldn't recommend it. Sure IDT had some very nice people.
But there is no way in hell i will work for nore support the ultimate goal of someone elses dream to make millions from spreading yourself and your life soooo thin. Thats all. The answer is simple. If you want to be a long distance company then start a long distance company. Don't sell yourself as a long distance, pager, calling card, internet, e-commerce, network backbone, net2phone, 1800, 1900, systems integration, co-location, security, tech support and integration company without staffing the company and providing for the company and making sure that your employees are provided for so that you can actually ship atleast one quality service.
So my simple answer, idt is spread to thin, employees work for some unknown pie in the sky and while that 38.00 you spent might help them short term i hope they just shut doors so people can get on with what we call LIFE.
While this may be a bit off topic, it is sure one hell of a good reason to choose something better. After all making people pay to contact you sounds too much like an IDT product :) Its the IDT motto "Stiff your friends because it will make you money"
did i say that? :)
Exodus is full of people that don't pay or want the world for nothing. Digex on the other hand has great support, strict security and very effecient services. (No restrictions on bandwitdth, backup hardware/routers/nics/switches and enough power to last weeks after a nuclear strike :)
Go digex
Did you forget Corel is the biggest supporter of Wine and dedicates developers full time to that project?
Ever wonder how it is becoming so easy to integrate KDE 2.0 and Windows/NT machines through SMB
Did you forget Corel is the biggest linux vendor working on linux integration with Windows? They were the first to implement SMB in the gui with a library and they're happily and non hastily following the license and passing along the code to KDE developers.
Ever wonder how Debian is getting alot of publicity?
Did you forget Corel linux is based on Debian? The standard for the non standard linux?
How can you consider Corel to be riding "The Linux Bandwagon" When Corel is one of the FEW, if the ONLY vendor producing a commercially viable and professionally packaged versions of the Linux OS for WORKSTATION and PERSONAL USE.
Corel doesn't claim to be the server centric sun ball busting software. They do claim ease of use and with that comes the unleashed power of a unix based system.
A full office package, a great v 1.0 integrated and effecient OS, a full distribution and support and retail channel that reaches from the internet to the local software store. And all you can do is bash them?
BORLAND oth has been nothing but a dissapointment and i'm glad they didn't mix. Delphi is good, but pascal is the last thing that needs to be mixed in with linux. and i highly doubt Borland would be much of an adopter of the KDE/Gnome interface and interope with the right people to do what linux people think is right.
Please stop shooting yourself in the foot and crying fowl just because of what the common notion is. I'm so sick of people not thinking for themselves. It seems to be the whole linux bandwagon is an extremest advocate gone afoul. While for some people it is the perfect solution, on the other hand, its only confused the industry that has created it and is the first to cry foul when someone doesn't follow the unwritten rules and justices of the "linux" system.
There is nothing wrong, nor abusive about standards. What microsoft is in trouble for is not having a closed api or a "politicized" standard, but for price gouging, license gouging, vendor contracts and bad business practices.
Java isn't a standard, everyone has there own concept of it, why don't we sue SUN for not having one? Sun had proprietary knowledge and developers that build it and can customize it for THERE os and THERE HARDWARE. Doesn't that sound kind of strange? Sure you get the source code if you want, but that doesn't stop sun from doing things behind closed doors.
The IBM PC isn't a standard either. Look at the major labels. Dell is the only one i know of that for business desktops uses replaceable components. HP's have crappy motherboards and proprietary miniature cases, Compaq's have disgusting bios's and really proprietary cheap ass hardware solutions. Just because it runs windows doesn't mean it followed some "pc standard" as i can emulate this and that and there is know "pc" standards body. Sure you have PCI folks, Vesa Groups and all sorts of other standards, but the Open source community cant afford the costs of Posix licensing/standardizing, ISO-9000 Certifications, Public meetings/relations/developer consortiums.
So tell me again, why people shouldn't use Directx 8? Is it because OpenGL is standardized by a company that is loosing money faster then a drunk tycoon at a slot machine? i mean what in the hell is going through you peoples brains? If you don't like a product, DON'T USE IT. You don't hear windows people bashing Linux/Unix users for there "standards" and you don't hear then crying wolf against sun for having an edge just the very same microsoft does. (YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT SUN DOESN'T PRICE GOUGE ON ITS HARDWARE/SOFTWARE/SUPPORT SOLUTIONS.) You can't tell me that a computer Sparc 5 should retail for 2900.00 while a pc with similar specs and tons more software and features runs for a 3'rd that price.
Sure microsoft has its own beliefs in xml/dhtml/html and whatever else, but who is to judge if that is right or wrong. Isn't that what your beliefs on standards are? follow the basics and add your own features to expand upon them. As you state that breaks the reasons for a standard. if the standard is to be followed, then ONE CHANGE by ONE VENDOR screws up the whole standard should that ONE VENDOR be the sole leader of that market. JUST like SGI & OpenGL, sure they're in with NVIDIA, but i guess that is alright since NVIDIA is a linux friendly company. Tell me howcome if NVIDIA follows a standard i can't replace it with another graphics card that follows the exact same "standard" you (*&#( think exists and have it work in the exact same fashion to the spec???
Get my point? Or do people just not think for themselves anymore? Got your head out of your ass yet? or did you think i said your head was up your ass because you run linux or did you think for a second and accept someones ideas or are you standardized on the notion that 'standards' are best and you can cry wolf when someone you don't like doesn't adopt it.
Have you EVER tried mixing thise "clone" pc's you talk about? Have you ever seen the inside of a COMPAQ? They're not a clone. You can't replace the motherboard on 99% of them because they're proprietary. DO YOUR HOMEWORK before you preach to me about CLONES and this and that.
a COMPUTER is not defined as a PC CLONE, where in the world is that misnomer coming from?
I don't think SUN calls there workstations PC's and IBM had nothing to do with there creation, the market demanded a workstation and sun provided. Sure the 'clone' market exploded, but it exploded around a common software packag called DOS and then Windows and Then whatever it is today. ITs because people chose DOS and chose windows and chose whatever they want to run.
Please, get your head out of your ass and look around. Standards are just one group or one persons concept of anything. Microsoft has Microsoft Standards and maybe YOU don't agree with it, but don't give me the shpeel on how having 2000 variants can be anything good for the industry.
Should we sue telephone companies because we can't run our own protocols or signals on the network? Should we sue cable companies because they choose what we get to watch? Should we sue cars because they put the stereo to high or two low? The world would be boring if evertthing was standardized.
Innovation is NOT conformity people
So from one source base, and small code changes here and there you got Win95, Win98, Me, Win2000, Windows CE (Personal/Palm PC's), DreamCast and the soon to be released X-Box.
Windows still runs 99.9% of the consumer/business PC's, Dremcast has 4 million+ units shipped, and the X-box can claim more.
How is having a market of 20+ million customers a bad decision versus porting to linux and having to worry about licensing more so then quality?
Unreal may have had its quircks, but Unreal Tournament is a very pioneering game and far from slow. Hell my 366 celeron witha 16 meg banshee runs hell of alot faster then 40fps. There is NO other off the shelf FPS title that does what unreal tournament does and with the 413 patches, no other FPS has the features nor network support that Unreal does.
If you want to run these games, get the platform they're written for. If you want to make money from these games in the linux world, then start a development company for linux software and tell the Windows users to go to hell.
Windows isn't any more buggy or harder to code for then Linux nor any other os out there either.
The problem here is again, a different stack here, a different browser here, a different protocol there, a different compression scheme here, a different xml engine there, a different ipsec here, and you get the point.
I could see microsoft being forced to allow its applications to run/be developed for OTHER platforms, but making win98/win2000 and future versions be broke up to replaceable components is DUMB. And that will cause problems.
P.S. You can diss glide, but it was 3dfx voodoo and glide that started the whole PC gaming era as we now it. Without them, we would all still have VLB 1 meg Cirrus Logics :)
Moderate it down, moderate correctly. I have to agreee with the other posts about moderation.. What the hell is going on here. enlighten me on what "If you stick your head in the ground and ignore or dismiss the negaive actions of powerful entities, they will have no recourse but to continue with that course of action, because it's obvious nobody cares. It's the same with your average eight-year old. " means. So it means now if you bust your ass working on linux stuff and some coroporation is still making millions life is good because your not an 8 year old? Gimme a break people. Microsoft is Microsoft, you people BOUGHT there software or COMPUTERS with it on there. You could have bought OS/2, Apples, or even kept the faith in very advanced for its day NeXT Boxes or BeBoxes. The consumer was the one putting there faith in Microsoft. Should we sue mcdonalds because it makes people fat and really taists like shit but the commercials make me buy it or because its the only joint on my bock its now unfair competition and they have to be sued until someone else with another shitty ass hamburger can come back in? My god. CHOICE PEOPLE! you chose a FUCKEN LAWYER to win your battle. Now think about that. You didn't choose NOT to run a Microsoft Product, you chose to waiste money on supporting a government that is just as unruely and unjust as any corporation that exists. Fear the capitalism? them move somewhere else or leave it be. DON'T take my choice! I still run Windows, I still run OS/2, i still use Linux. MY Choice. I didn't support nor write my legislature/senators to sue microsoft, that is BS. I didn't buy a distro because THAT is BS. Buying something that *IS* free for the sake of Support? If the INFORMATION is free, why would you NEED support? If it was intuitive enough, what would be so hard that you need support????? Why should redhat get my money moreso then microsoft? Atleast with microsoft i see Innovative features such as the highly popular portals/email/mapping systems, kick as gaming, ease of use, quick adaptation, forward looking and forward thinking design and gui concepts? I mean for the first time in computer la la land there is consistancy and a huge market.
And we want to distroy that because people are naive and want to accept freedoms and not be forced to choose? Microsoft didnt FORCE windows. Microsoft didn't FORCE anyting. They played the game and the lil boys lost.. wooopideee dooo. They aquired when nescape could have aquired. Why didn't netscape team up with IBM to compete with microsoft? I won't even go any further, as its pointless reall..
That is a pretty informative article. Are there any other sites your aware of that would be good to forward to local government and state representatives as a means to help alleviate alot of the problems with public transportation? I cant bitch and moan all i want, but the more studies and historic/geographic data i can send, i feel the better i can represent myself. Plus it would just be interesting reading, as i may want to move to a place that better suits my needs, after all why should i be paying property taxes to subsidize new roads for the gas guzzling SUV's and monster trucks? I think it would be interesting to actually develop resoureces that break down how people are blindly paying for all this stuff no matter what they do (walk/ride/drive, how your income is being used to subsidize drivers if you aren't one.. etc... etc..)
What keeps towns from accepting people on bicycles? Why arent there more bike racks to lockup? What are commuter friendly towns? It looks like the big apple is (albeit not to clean nor safe at times) and Washington DC. DC seems to have the cleanest subway system i have ever seen, which is another factor in PT, how safe, how clean and how frequent the trips are. State college has a great, clean and frequent bus system. Anyone to write to that can help?
I make a great living, money is not a factor of why i dont want another car (gas, theft, insurance, loan interest, and i have all sorts of other gadgets and things i want to spend my money on besides another piece of metal that always has problems and seems to hold up a sign saying radomly break into me and cause my owner to have a living hell). I like riding my bike, i like being able to walk out to a subway and walk a block to where i want to be, i like catching the train to NYC and cabbing/subbing around town. For one, i save money, (parking is ridiculous), 2, less worries (will my car be there, will i get any tickets for whatever reason, is my insurance still valid, where is my insurance card, keys?).
I guess there are many reasons, but i find my life better spent and exponentially simpler without a car. (although very it is harder in some ways since i can't depend on pt...).
The "Evil Empire" is now found guilty of marketing to a naive market, and now the AOL empire is going to be prosecuted for catching the other end of the Naive market???
SO were just going to sue *everyone* because they don't know better? Or because they think they have rights to be in business even if people don't want there goods and services??
That may be a bit off the wall, but so is this article. Who is slashdot or even ourselves to judge the 22 million people who appreciate AOL for the simplicity it offers
And most of all, why is AOL wrong for supporting Windows???? After all it *IS* the defacto standard UNTIL something better comes along that makes it easier and fundamentally more intuitive.
You people spend too much time bickering instead of deciding. There is no assembly of truth to operating systems and media giants. If there was to be a breakup, i'd still consider Cisco because they're practically the backbone of the internet, i'd still sue Bell Atlantic more so then AOL.
Everyone has there interests to protect the market they have cornered. And its lawyers and politicians that YOU vote in and YOU higher that give them this right. Laws or not, its YOUR decision and just because people are naive and want simplicity DOESN'T mean they're stupid nor does it mean a company should do whatever they can to refocus on linux because its better.. If it was better why are 22 million people NOT using it?
On the other hand, had this article not even brought up linux i would have considered it as being sightfull. But it plainly turned out to be dumb as Linux is NOT the reason AOL or Microsoft should be change. the Consumer and market is the reason. Had the market been fair, linux could have ousted Microsoft and AOL within a very short time span.. but nope.. we hire more people to make more laws or we just try and break the laws and bicker about how pointless they are.
either way, the linux people are playing just as shamefull as a game as any other business. Overly priced stocks, no profits, .com fever, network appliances, how many times can we reinvent the wheel? If microsoft wasn't innovative then why are we trying to duplicate the features? I would have thought linux would have engineered and new and improved way of computing.. but nope.. we sue or get the government to do it for us.. and now were looking at AOL for our next target.. NICE.. i'm proud to be an american, where atleast i know i'll never have job security no matter how productive or influential of a business i work for.
PS: I don't work for AOL or Time or Microsoft, but if i did, i'd be pissed if the government decides to take away what i worked so hard on for whatever reasons. (monopoly or not, you ARE talking about HUMANS with Respectfull JOBS and CHILDREN and FAMILIES TO FEED)
Wine is a great project, but only came about as a means for linux to emulate the windows environment to run the windows applications. Wine by no means was a commercial effort to compete against windows or microsoft.
As far as closed API's has anyone ever tried writing a competing product to Oracle RDBMS that is compatible? Nope, can't be done, but do we Sue Oracle for that? I mean have you seen there new licensing schemes and how they rape the consumer?
How about Novell, do we get to sue them because nobody could make a compatible product? Weren't they the cause of the downfall of that good ol' company that made Banyan Vines and lantastic? Is it my right to sue Novell for that?
Just some thoughts.
Besides, i feel its better when people express there opinions, and not the lack thereof. So go have fun shoving grits down your pants and let people with half a brain speak.
OTH, i'm not here to preach. Your freedom if ignorance is as much my freedom to speech. So have fun saying whatever you want to say. I'm not gonna stop you.
I for one, USE linux. Let me say that again. I USE LINUX. and I also Use Microsoft. I don't consider them the Evil Empire, since in my time with computers i have used other OS's such as OS/2, FreeBSD and Solaris and for the Desktop *I* chose to run Windows.
I don't understand how people can pick at microsoft for writing the OS and the Applications. After Microsoft will sun be next? Will they have to split the processor division from there OS division? Doesn't that give them unfair advantage in the market? Or is it because the consumers who don't know about Sun and other Systems out there don't think to sue them too?
Flame me all you want, slashdot is about opinions and not about whats right or wrong.
But my opinion is, let them exist. Let the CONSUMER Choose. NOT a lawyer. I feel you are doing the BIGGEST Injustice by making my choices for me in court. Microsoft has NEVER prevented anyone from making a compatible system, had they done that it would have been anticompetitve. But simply existing without anything better or no one stepping up to the bat does not make microsoft an evil empire.
Sure some of you don't like the "Windows Tax" when you buy a new PC. But for the average consumer, why would they want to go out and choose something else that there friends or neighboors don't use? Why would someone want to choose something that is Niche when they can choose something that is a standard? Sure it may not be an OPEN standard, but gee golly sir when i go to the story and there is 400 games and 1000s of applications i can run on my computer. THAT IS A STANDARD!
I would feel sorry for the thousands of employees, the foundations that Gates supports, the 5,000+ college students that could loose scholarships, the grants and donations to the city and areas of which microsoft works (redmond receives lots of support from microsoft).
I'd feel sorry for all the ASP's, Developers and people who make a living off software because that is what the chose.
You have always had a right to choice. I'm just curios why you think it is YOUR right to make my choice now?
SGI, Sun, Sparc, Alpha, Mac, Amiga, RISC OS, RS2000, Aix, FreeBSD, NeXT, DOS, Novell DOS, CPM, TRS 80. They were all your choices. You chose a PC witch Built its foundation in Windows. You didn't Choose a 10,000 dollar Sparc to not run Solaris on it, so why should it be any different here. Like i said, Sun will be under the radar next, hell RedHat could get sued for anticompetive faults with Microsoft coming up and saying they're dumping there product for free to saturate the market.
I believe the rights of the consumer belong to the consumer, not to Hypocrites, people who are anal about things (fuck you to people who will pay more attention to my spelling rather then *MY* opinions).
Like i said, i use linux. I run HP-UX systems, i have a few dozen Sparcs, and yes i have 250 Windows Workstations on the floor and yes, i have a few dozen linux workstations. So yeah, as an educated consumer i know what fits MY bill. And my employees know what fits there own. So let it be.
Its nice to see some new ports coming our way, but how about finishing up some existing ones? I know loki isn't responsible for UT, but come on people! Push out a port that supports sound, has better video support and on par with every other version. One of these days i hope i can once again play UT 405 and higher servers. heh
Back to your post :) Isn't it funny how Japan's news coverage was showing an awesome game playing on the monitors which turned out to be Shenmue for the DC. I guess it helps if the demo screens they show are for the console they're trying to demo!