Man, you're just begging to be told 'GO USE LINUX' aren't you?:)
I wouldn't touch Linux. But for your information heres the OS's I have tried, other than windows of course: BeOS, FreeBSD, QNX and Windows ME. FreeBSD didn't know what to do with my monitor and I didn't feel like tinking with it. BeOS was rock Solid and quite useful but at the time didn't have much in terms of networking. QNX was nice, but didn't have much in terms of networking setup. I'm sure i could have used Samba on QNX or BeOS, but again its a simple home lan, why should i learn to use such a powerful tool for such a little job.
Well since I have DAVE (for OS 8.1) sitting around and can download Sharity (for OS X) for free, I figured it would be easiest to just use CIFS. Which it was. Now, after i get around to purchasing a new monitor (which is what freaked out FreeBSD), I'll migrate to FreeBSD and use NFS for MacOS X and Samba for exporting Appleshare volumes.
"If you're serving files, using a windows PC is ludicrous."
Not really. Considering its a home lan and all it has to be able to do is at least 1-2 Megabyte a second (video). Other things I've been experimenting with is using streamsicle control my PC as a stereo (which of course since streamsicle is Java based, i could do in any OS) which is quite neat.
Before you make preemptive judgments make sure you know you facts. I could USE any OS, but using Windows was the easiest. Personally, I'm not fond of Windows and would pefer BeOS or FreeBSD and am thinking about switching in the near future.
Because my Original Nintendo, Genesis and Saturn all work flawlessly, where as my PC (whose ONLY job is to serve files to my Macs) had an incident a few months ago where it decided C: was also D:, E:, F:, and finally G: and Norton didn't know what the hell to do with it.....
"-Ban their Microsoft products? Then it would pose some serious problems to european businesses and their competitivness."
The idea that the businesses of the world need Microsoft is a bunch of hogwash. In the SHORT TERM, there would be problem in the EU if MS was blocked, but I guarantee you that vacuum would lead to someone making a replacement and implementing it.
Think of it like this. What if HP, Compac, Dell, Gateway, and IBM all decided to form a cooperative "Comapy" that would make some Free Unix be able to pass the "Mom test"? What could MS do about that?
With all due respect, given the still unresolved dispute between GPL and BSD kids, for a GPL person to say a "open source" license is too restrictive is just laughable.
Not only that, not very many people are too concerned with that the FSF's definition of "Open Source" is. If I can download the source for free (economically speaking) and look at it, it's open.
"They say it took nine mouse clicks--through a series of Windows instructions and folders--to get Kodak's software installed as the default after a camera was plugged in"
Now, I'm no expert, but doesn't Windows offer a descent scripting service for installers or or Kodaks programmers just so inept, they can't script those 9 mouse clicks. I ask seriously since being a Mac person, these kind of issues don't come up...
"Well if the robots in The Matrix can power all of their hardware using humans as batteries, can't we harnace enough of that potential energy in one human to power his/her own artificial heart?
A absurd as this sounds, its probabally true that we could use our own bodys as an energy source and in the future will. If our own biological heart uses electricial energy to pump, why can't an artifical pump use that same signal?
But please don't generalize that all GM items are polluting in ways we can't calcualte, because in many ways we can.
Our understanding of evolutionary science is limited. Our understanding of the relationship between specific traits in a species and its corresponding gene is limited.
Evolution is controled totally by envriomental factors, as far as I know, and that includes human evolution. Everytime humans change thier envrioment, they are changing the evolution of not only their own species, but the evolution of countless other species. This is normal and in many ways, both our species and those that live among us have adapted to the changes we make. The introduction of a genetically modified organism into the envrioment, no matter how well thought out will always have unpercieve consquences. Some harmfull, some beneign. Problem is, as a species, we don't start to fix self created problems until after they are big and even then it is usually too late to totally fix it.
As a species we can no longer afford to go "progress" without thinking of all possible problems and implementing a thoughtfull plan to reverse course incase something bad happens we didn't think about.
Does this mean all GM food is "bad"? Nope. It does mean at present our limitied knowledge base suggests we can draw no conclusions about the impact of GM food on humans and their envrioment. That lack of knowledge is a dangerous thing.
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"This corn has no impact on the environment that is different from regular corn."
Based on what research? You want to compare and entire history of evolution, with all its checks and balances, to human controled evolution, which seems to have little outside a few years of "studies". You can NOT say at all there is no effect on the enviroment. You don't know what kind of subtle changes in how genes mututate in the enviroment of the grown corn (as its natural pedators eat it). Too little time has passed to see its impact on evolution both in the corn plant and in the its predators (including us).
I'm not some eco-terrorist and quite frankly I most likely eat genetic engineer corn all the time, but to say sometime like it has no envriomental impact, is just hogwash.
Depends on what you consider important, but in some ways, Yes. UseNet was one of the first non-centralized way of distributing information. It is also quite possibilty the greatest resource for the personal sharing of knowledge in near real time with hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people all over the world. Why you ask? Despite what you might see over at alt.binaries.pictures.* and alt.barney.die.die.die the singal to noise ratio is infinitely better than doing a search on google and you can generally get multiple informed replys to questions on almost any subject....
If it weren't for people like this, us working class intelligensia wouldn't be able to share information and track the IMPORTANT issues going in our respective governments. We can only hope that more people come along who are willing to share their research with the rest of us....
Thank your respective Deity or non-deity for people like this...
If it weren't for people like this, us working class intelligensia wouldn't be able to share information and track the IMPORTANT issues going in our respective governments. We can only hope that more people come along who are willing to share their research with the rest of us....
Thank your respect Deity or non-deity for people like this...
Straight from the ruling...
"We defer to the Districts Court's findings of fact, setting them aside only if clearly erroneous.
We begin by considering whether Microsoft possesses monolopy power...and finding it does, we turn to the question whether it maintained this power through ainticompetitive means. Agreeing with the District Court that the company behaved anticompetitively,...and that these actions contributed to the maintenance of its monopoly power, we affirm the court's finding of liability for monopolization."
After these statements, the court goes on to essentially shoot down everything Microsoft tried to tell them was wrong about the finding, essentially agreeing with Jackson the entire way, or noting errors in Microsofts reasoning. This is actually quite interesting, since the part about why the court is vacating the Jacksons remedy is limited to the last 30 or so pages out of 125 and seems to be quite narrow.
Jackson made improper comments to the media
Jackson met with the media in secret during the trial.
Jackson didn't hold an evidence hearing about what course of remedy the court should go through.
All of Microsofts arguements about why they are not a monolopy where shot down one by one, just as they were by Jackson. All of Microsofts arguements about the fast track nature of the trial and how it was handled was shot down with the simple words "Microsoft agreed..before the trial".
So what we have here is a prediciment for Ashcroft, who clearly is not interested in going after Microsoft. He can try to make it disappear, but the states now have their affirimation of the ruling and may be able to continue without the federal goverment, he may try to settle, again with the States getting in the way and with the appeals court giving just as damning ruling as the Finds of Fact, or he can piss of his republican freinds and continue with the case.
"Today's X apps don't run on a 486sx 25 very well."
Unless you are running ssh, X-Windows uses very little ram and cpu. Since the apps are not run locally, you only have to worry about the network and X-Win itself. I've done it. Works fine.
There was a time when a 25Mhz computers were speedy. Those very same computers run Xwin perfectly.
"The bad thing is that most 486 didn't have good videocards, and the performance (no XAA?) of XFree86 with ISA cards is not great, even as an X-terminal only."
This kind of thing bothers me. In 95 I did a Linux install which I moved a 486/25 from Win 3.1 to Linux. Back then you did these things the hard way, compiling it yourself.
We did this to use as, you guessed it, an X-Term for our Vaxes. Then, Xwin ran perfectly (8MB ram, i beleive), no gnome, no kde, just an X-term..
This raises the question...Why would XFree give bad performance TODAY on the same hardware, or is it just a matter of perceptions based of a preconceived notion of what good performace is?
I have a USB CD-RW at home. Works fine under OS 9 (using its built in burning software) and also works fine the the version of Toast it shipped with. That same exact burner only works under Win98, and its software is NOT supported under WinME...I didn't buy burning software, since it works on my mac, but i assume others have from the amount of burning software for sale in computer stores.
"Is lack of Mac software an issue? Did they often sell you the drive and then expect you to go out and fetch the S/W yourself prior to its inclusion in OS9?"
What are you talking about? Toast (for Mac) is included on so many commody burners that I would be hard pressed to find a good burner without it. If you have ever seen the burning software in OS 9, you would understand why its a big deal, it's nice software...
Maybe you should try using the latest version of Windows Media Player, which does do all of the above, and is shipped (for better or worse) with Windows."
Quite frankly this is just false. I have WinME at home (among other OS's) on my home PC. WMP does not play DVD's on any known drive. WMP does not burn CDs (data CD's or Audio CD's from mp3).
"Even though the OS-X itself is not well documented"
Here is a link to Apples documention of OS X. You should also try reading the man pages in OS X too, you would be amazed at the large amount of documenation there. People who complain about "lack of documentation" are either game developers who don't want to actually carbonize their code are are too lazy to look it up, or people who repeat their compaints. Quite frankly OS X is significantly more well documented publicly that Windows could ever hope to be.
"OS-X's biggest problems are in multimedia support. One person on the panel indicated a lack of support for color syncronization. OS-X didnt come with DVD support. Doesnt matter to me that I dont get DVD support, I just boot into OS-9 instead"
When I hear this shit, it nearly makes me sick. With all due respect, I can name no single OS on the market other than OS 9 that has has support for DVD players. Windows has API support but no actual player. Windows doesn't ship with CDR support. WIndows doesn't ship with a intergrated mp3 player that can burn CD's. Windows and Linux don't ship with advanced gaphics layers that each individually have more buzzwords in them than I could ever hope to understand (Colorsync and Quartz come to mind). The shit people complain about can't be found in the upgrades that Microsoft offers, which btw is Apples ONLY competitor. If you are gonna complain, get real. How about finishing up Classic's printing support, or the speed of Quicktime and OpenGL on non-G4's, or maybe the lack of showing inititive and actually shipping nice GUI support for NATD, NFS, et al, or maybe the fact that I have to go to a damn menu to mount an OS 9 HD, that doesn't even mention the fact that OS X ONLY supports AppleTalk over TCP/IP, which although is off by default is a fucking MAJOR secuirty risk in the hands of newbies (will your Mom use hard to guess passwords?). Get real people. If you bought OS X and then bitch about no DVD or CD-RW support, you are an idiot. It never claimed to have it on the box, you were told in advance it would not ship in the initial final release, and Windows users pay money to upgrade thier CD-RW and DVD software after they upgrade...
Internet Explorer for the Mac remembers passwords for you. The keychain in OS 9 and OS X form a conveint place for all your passwords, encrypted of course, all locked and unlocked with a single password or if you are in a multi-user set up, merely by logging on and off the computer.
This isn't meant to be an add for MacOS. Use what you want. The point is merely there are alternative solutions that are clearly more secure than a centralized network location, it's just that MS needs an to hide their thinly veiled attempt to make it easier to code network applications only for Windows rather than using existing standards and protocols to do it behind "innovation" and "service".
Quite frankly stuff like this disturbs me. I don't trust my personal information to new unproven technologies, this includes.NET/Hailstorm. The level of inherent complexity of these services combined with the fact that most companies use their customers as beta testers make for nothing more than a receipe for disaster. No thanks, I keep with my set that works and is secure.
"Should the government or an organization be allowed to monitor your location simply because they own the means of transportation? If so, where does it end? Do they also have the right to monitor everything you say while in their vehicle?"
The govt current does NOT have the right to "monitor your location simply because they own the means of transportation".
But to answer a modified version of you question, "should individuals or companies have the right to monitor what you do with their car, including but not limited to 1. location 2. speed 3. what was in it 4. what you did in the car..?" I would answer yes. You have no expectation of privacy once you enter my property, especially if I notify you how I expect you to treat my car. End of story.
If you don't like those terms, use a different car. Welcome to a free country where you can make choices.
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The audit alone should cost a few million...
I wouldn't touch Linux. But for your information heres the OS's I have tried, other than windows of course: BeOS, FreeBSD, QNX and Windows ME. FreeBSD didn't know what to do with my monitor and I didn't feel like tinking with it. BeOS was rock Solid and quite useful but at the time didn't have much in terms of networking. QNX was nice, but didn't have much in terms of networking setup. I'm sure i could have used Samba on QNX or BeOS, but again its a simple home lan, why should i learn to use such a powerful tool for such a little job.
Well since I have DAVE (for OS 8.1) sitting around and can download Sharity (for OS X) for free, I figured it would be easiest to just use CIFS. Which it was. Now, after i get around to purchasing a new monitor (which is what freaked out FreeBSD), I'll migrate to FreeBSD and use NFS for MacOS X and Samba for exporting Appleshare volumes.
"If you're serving files, using a windows PC is ludicrous."
Not really. Considering its a home lan and all it has to be able to do is at least 1-2 Megabyte a second (video). Other things I've been experimenting with is using streamsicle control my PC as a stereo (which of course since streamsicle is Java based, i could do in any OS) which is quite neat.
Before you make preemptive judgments make sure you know you facts. I could USE any OS, but using Windows was the easiest. Personally, I'm not fond of Windows and would pefer BeOS or FreeBSD and am thinking about switching in the near future.
Because my Original Nintendo, Genesis and Saturn all work flawlessly, where as my PC (whose ONLY job is to serve files to my Macs) had an incident a few months ago where it decided C: was also D:, E:, F:, and finally G: and Norton didn't know what the hell to do with it.....
You thinking a bit small aren't you. What about...
Asia Carrera in outer space!
The idea that the businesses of the world need Microsoft is a bunch of hogwash. In the SHORT TERM, there would be problem in the EU if MS was blocked, but I guarantee you that vacuum would lead to someone making a replacement and implementing it.
Think of it like this. What if HP, Compac, Dell, Gateway, and IBM all decided to form a cooperative "Comapy" that would make some Free Unix be able to pass the "Mom test"? What could MS do about that?
In Visual Studio.NET (beta 2 code)
(a) Go to the "Help" menu, select "Edit Filters"
(b) In "List of Available Attributes and their Values" expand "Target Operating System (TargetOS)
UPDATE (5 p.m.): HERE IS THE LIST OF OS's THAT .NET WILL SUPPORT:
The "Target Operating System (TargetOS)" list is:
Linux (kbLinux)
UNIX (kbUNIX)
Windows (Windows)
Macintosh (kbMAC)
Windows CE (WinCE)
Not only that, not very many people are too concerned with that the FSF's definition of "Open Source" is. If I can download the source for free (economically speaking) and look at it, it's open.
Now, I'm no expert, but doesn't Windows offer a descent scripting service for installers or or Kodaks programmers just so inept, they can't script those 9 mouse clicks. I ask seriously since being a Mac person, these kind of issues don't come up...
A absurd as this sounds, its probabally true that we could use our own bodys as an energy source and in the future will. If our own biological heart uses electricial energy to pump, why can't an artifical pump use that same signal?
Our understanding of evolutionary science is limited. Our understanding of the relationship between specific traits in a species and its corresponding gene is limited.
Evolution is controled totally by envriomental factors, as far as I know, and that includes human evolution. Everytime humans change thier envrioment, they are changing the evolution of not only their own species, but the evolution of countless other species. This is normal and in many ways, both our species and those that live among us have adapted to the changes we make. The introduction of a genetically modified organism into the envrioment, no matter how well thought out will always have unpercieve consquences. Some harmfull, some beneign. Problem is, as a species, we don't start to fix self created problems until after they are big and even then it is usually too late to totally fix it.
As a species we can no longer afford to go "progress" without thinking of all possible problems and implementing a thoughtfull plan to reverse course incase something bad happens we didn't think about.
Does this mean all GM food is "bad"? Nope. It does mean at present our limitied knowledge base suggests we can draw no conclusions about the impact of GM food on humans and their envrioment. That lack of knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Based on what research? You want to compare and entire history of evolution, with all its checks and balances, to human controled evolution, which seems to have little outside a few years of "studies". You can NOT say at all there is no effect on the enviroment. You don't know what kind of subtle changes in how genes mututate in the enviroment of the grown corn (as its natural pedators eat it). Too little time has passed to see its impact on evolution both in the corn plant and in the its predators (including us).
I'm not some eco-terrorist and quite frankly I most likely eat genetic engineer corn all the time, but to say sometime like it has no envriomental impact, is just hogwash.
Depends on what you consider important, but in some ways, Yes. UseNet was one of the first non-centralized way of distributing information. It is also quite possibilty the greatest resource for the personal sharing of knowledge in near real time with hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people all over the world. Why you ask? Despite what you might see over at alt.binaries.pictures.* and alt.barney.die.die.die the singal to noise ratio is infinitely better than doing a search on google and you can generally get multiple informed replys to questions on almost any subject....
Thank your respective Deity or non-deity for people like this...
Thank your respect Deity or non-deity for people like this...
1. It available in pdf.
2. Wordperfect is the "standard" in the legal profession.
We begin by considering whether Microsoft possesses monolopy power...and finding it does, we turn to the question whether it maintained this power through ainticompetitive means. Agreeing with the District Court that the company behaved anticompetitively,...and that these actions contributed to the maintenance of its monopoly power, we affirm the court's finding of liability for monopolization."
After these statements, the court goes on to essentially shoot down everything Microsoft tried to tell them was wrong about the finding, essentially agreeing with Jackson the entire way, or noting errors in Microsofts reasoning. This is actually quite interesting, since the part about why the court is vacating the Jacksons remedy is limited to the last 30 or so pages out of 125 and seems to be quite narrow.
Jackson made improper comments to the media
Jackson met with the media in secret during the trial.
Jackson didn't hold an evidence hearing about what course of remedy the court should go through.
All of Microsofts arguements about why they are not a monolopy where shot down one by one, just as they were by Jackson. All of Microsofts arguements about the fast track nature of the trial and how it was handled was shot down with the simple words "Microsoft agreed..before the trial".
So what we have here is a prediciment for Ashcroft, who clearly is not interested in going after Microsoft. He can try to make it disappear, but the states now have their affirimation of the ruling and may be able to continue without the federal goverment, he may try to settle, again with the States getting in the way and with the appeals court giving just as damning ruling as the Finds of Fact, or he can piss of his republican freinds and continue with the case.
It will be interesting to see what's next...
Unless you are running ssh, X-Windows uses very little ram and cpu. Since the apps are not run locally, you only have to worry about the network and X-Win itself. I've done it. Works fine.
There was a time when a 25Mhz computers were speedy. Those very same computers run Xwin perfectly.
This kind of thing bothers me. In 95 I did a Linux install which I moved a 486/25 from Win 3.1 to Linux. Back then you did these things the hard way, compiling it yourself.
We did this to use as, you guessed it, an X-Term for our Vaxes. Then, Xwin ran perfectly (8MB ram, i beleive), no gnome, no kde, just an X-term..
This raises the question...Why would XFree give bad performance TODAY on the same hardware, or is it just a matter of perceptions based of a preconceived notion of what good performace is?
I have a USB CD-RW at home. Works fine under OS 9 (using its built in burning software) and also works fine the the version of Toast it shipped with. That same exact burner only works under Win98, and its software is NOT supported under WinME...I didn't buy burning software, since it works on my mac, but i assume others have from the amount of burning software for sale in computer stores. "Is lack of Mac software an issue? Did they often sell you the drive and then expect you to go out and fetch the S/W yourself prior to its inclusion in OS9?"
What are you talking about? Toast (for Mac) is included on so many commody burners that I would be hard pressed to find a good burner without it. If you have ever seen the burning software in OS 9, you would understand why its a big deal, it's nice software...
Quite frankly this is just false. I have WinME at home (among other OS's) on my home PC. WMP does not play DVD's on any known drive. WMP does not burn CDs (data CD's or Audio CD's from mp3).
Here is a link to Apples documention of OS X. You should also try reading the man pages in OS X too, you would be amazed at the large amount of documenation there. People who complain about "lack of documentation" are either game developers who don't want to actually carbonize their code are are too lazy to look it up, or people who repeat their compaints. Quite frankly OS X is significantly more well documented publicly that Windows could ever hope to be.
When I hear this shit, it nearly makes me sick. With all due respect, I can name no single OS on the market other than OS 9 that has has support for DVD players. Windows has API support but no actual player. Windows doesn't ship with CDR support. WIndows doesn't ship with a intergrated mp3 player that can burn CD's. Windows and Linux don't ship with advanced gaphics layers that each individually have more buzzwords in them than I could ever hope to understand (Colorsync and Quartz come to mind). The shit people complain about can't be found in the upgrades that Microsoft offers, which btw is Apples ONLY competitor. If you are gonna complain, get real. How about finishing up Classic's printing support, or the speed of Quicktime and OpenGL on non-G4's, or maybe the lack of showing inititive and actually shipping nice GUI support for NATD, NFS, et al, or maybe the fact that I have to go to a damn menu to mount an OS 9 HD, that doesn't even mention the fact that OS X ONLY supports AppleTalk over TCP/IP, which although is off by default is a fucking MAJOR secuirty risk in the hands of newbies (will your Mom use hard to guess passwords?). Get real people. If you bought OS X and then bitch about no DVD or CD-RW support, you are an idiot. It never claimed to have it on the box, you were told in advance it would not ship in the initial final release, and Windows users pay money to upgrade thier CD-RW and DVD software after they upgrade...
This isn't meant to be an add for MacOS. Use what you want. The point is merely there are alternative solutions that are clearly more secure than a centralized network location, it's just that MS needs an to hide their thinly veiled attempt to make it easier to code network applications only for Windows rather than using existing standards and protocols to do it behind "innovation" and "service".
Quite frankly stuff like this disturbs me. I don't trust my personal information to new unproven technologies, this includes .NET/Hailstorm. The level of inherent complexity of these services combined with the fact that most companies use their customers as beta testers make for nothing more than a receipe for disaster. No thanks, I keep with my set that works and is secure.
He signed the contract before he drove the car. He gave his consent.
The govt current does NOT have the right to "monitor your location simply because they own the means of transportation".
But to answer a modified version of you question, "should individuals or companies have the right to monitor what you do with their car, including but not limited to 1. location 2. speed 3. what was in it 4. what you did in the car..?" I would answer yes. You have no expectation of privacy once you enter my property, especially if I notify you how I expect you to treat my car. End of story.
If you don't like those terms, use a different car. Welcome to a free country where you can make choices.