"yep, every time i run that 5 minute long redlight at 4 am when there is no one else awake. I'm definitely running the risk of killing someone. I'm surprised I haven't killed hundreds."
1. You know damn that is not why people are complaining and looking for work arounds.
2. Where I am from, all the roads have censors that detect when a car is stoped at a light at night time and changes it to green with a few seconds.
The simplest solution to getting around these technological advances that allow you to get caught breaking traffice laws is to....
Stop breaking them! Everytime you run a redlight, you run the risk of killing someone. Everytime you speed, you run the risk of killing someone. I personally have been hit by a car that ran a stop sign while riding my bicycle. I lost a friend who ran a stop sign and got side swiped.
You would think you had a right to break traffic laws or something by the way you people bitch.
(as explicitly enumerated in the article) inadequate disclosure
I think $150 dollar fine for speeding is clear enough.
(as explicitly enumerated in the article) no appeals process
its not a court of law, he has no right to appeal within the company, he can merely challenge the charges in court, which is what he is doing.
(as mentioned in other comments) problems with GPS "jumping" as you switch satelites
This is something he can challenge in court, since it is currently unknown by anyone here whether or not the system detects that the car violated the laws of physics.
"no notification before the money is withdrawn from your account"
That is unclear, he never states whether it was on the receipt or not, again something to be challenged in court.
"how much should be withdrawn is solely up to the judgement of the rental agency"
which he was prenotifed of the fees, and he certainly knew he was speeding.
If you don't like the terms, don't sign the contract. End of story.
"I never heard of it, have you?" Keyes asks. (I hadn't). She believes Acme should explain GPS (and AirIQ in particular) to customers. She believes it discriminates against technological have-nots and especially poorer people.
"More important is the issue of due process," says Keyes. "There's no system for challenging this fine. At least when you get a ticket, the court system allows you to contest it." She claims the speeding charges are constitutionally invalid and go against public policy
Riiiight.....I got news for this fellow, in the US, individuals are constitutional protectioned is exactly zero ways from companies. Zero. This is a clear cut case of contract law, nothing more nothing less.
The only civil rights laws I know of that deal with companies have to do with equal treatment and access based on Race, Sex and Disabilities. Last time I checked, lack of technological prowness was not considered a and technogical access is not a basic human right.
The fees were in the contract, he signed it. The only arguement is whether the contract was valid or invalid. This has nothing to do with rights.
So Acme wants to tell you how you can use their car. What's the problem with this? Now, the contract clearly states there is a $150 fee per speeding incursion. If you don't those terms, don't rent.
I don't see any "Big Brother" thing here, if everyone voted with your wallet, offensive companies would go out of business.
Forgive me, but I'm not sure what the big deal is here. I type a lot of URL's in and at least once or twice a month I'm redirected to someones pr0n site when I was looking for cooking recipes. Certainly not fair use, certainly intented to direct traffic from one intended destination to another, certainly something that dimishes brands.
Couse though stuff like this just ends up allowing a company to smash down a parody site which is within the relm of fair use.....
I don't care if Yahoo was totally dis-ingenious with the French authorities. I don't care if Yahoo was selling baby mulching machines. France has NO business telling an american company what it can do for a business practice, just because their own citizens might be able to buy Nazi artifacts from over seas.
If France wants to plug up her ears and wipe Nazi artifacts from existence in their own country, fine with me. Yahoo! France complies with French law and if that is not enough for the French authorities, maybe Yahoo! should look into moving their French servers to a neighboring country that has more rational laws.
Then your computer is broken and you should reinstall OS X. Since, on every install of OS X i've seen, Netinfo allows one to turn on root.
There is a password for root out of the box, its the first password for the first admin account you create. End of story. If you say otherwise, you need to reinstall OS X since it was obviously installed incorrectly.
When every I'm "viewing" the internet, my right hand and fore arm can get quite sore from over use. Though, I'm not completly sure its Carpol Tunnel or just an "over active imagination".
Maybe my English is a little rusty, but "No password for root" usually means there is NO PASSWORD for root.
Then I say, you can turn on root in netinfo, to which you replay
"Not true. But you can run sudo."
But now you say
"But I did know how to turn on root. I used sudo. No one should have to turn on root, that's the point."
1. How can you know how to "turn on root", if there is no "password for root"?
2. You did NOT know how to "turn on root" since you denied that you can do it in Netinfo.
3. If "No one should have to turn on root, that's the point.", why would you a. Why would you bitch, incorrectly at that, about "no password for root"?
Is true, can turn on root in Netinfo and LOG IN AS A NORMAL USER.
"No I meant things run really slow. It take forever to load "Classic Mode." Lotus Notes, Office 2001, Diablo, etc they run really reall slow."
If by this you mean "they run almost exactly the same speed as they do inside of OS 9" I'll agree with you. Go get OS X on a SUPPORTED MACHINE and try, cause obviously you dont have it on a supported machine.
Read the documentation. OS X harddrives do indeed mount in at least OS 8.1 and higher. OS X can mount OS 9 drives (with the connect menu). OS X can use Appletalk printers (which any standard networked Laser Jet supports). OS X computers do NOT appear to use Appletalk to talk to one another, but instead use NFS.
OS X, by default, supports NFS, AppleTalk, and with sharity (which is free for educational people) NetBUI. I have an iMac next to me what has NFS mounts from several SGI's in this room, mounts of NT drives upstairs, and an OS 9 drive of a computer behind me.
But...If I were, I would in turn sue the state of WA for violating the constitution of the United States of a America for trying to exercise juris-prudence in what is clearly federal territory. This will shoot down or limit the WA law quite quickly. I repeat, you can NOT sue me in a STATE court for something that happens across a border, you can ONLY do it in a federal court.
"I have a G4 running OSX (with a small 9.1 partition) and its nice and all but utltimately the following
things plauge it.
1 -- No DVD support
2 -- Odd OEM *nix quirks
--No password for root"
Root is disabled by default as uneccissary for home use.
The password is the same as the password for the first
admin created when you first install. You can turn it on
in Netinfo, if you so choose.
" --weird Bash shell quirks"
You mean the fact it doesn't ship with BASH at all? Or the fact
that csh is the default shell? Maybe you meant to say,
"I didn't know it wasn't using BASH shell and it confused
me"
You should check you iDisk too, it has some stuff that is not on versiontracker.
You should also look for MacWorld annoucements early next month for the shipping of Adobe, Macromedia, Corel, and MANY other very popular 3rd parties. Not to mention the fact that many games for OS 9 are currently being ported or are ported to OS X (check out what the OmniGroup is doing, they port your games for free in a small amount of time). This is not even to mention that ALL of my OS 9 Apps run fine.
4 -- "Classic Mode" == "So slow you want to die mode"
I think you mis-spelled "I never used OS X in my life cause if I had, I would know that Classic runs at about 95% the speed it does by itself, while running inside of OS X" or maybe you meant to say "Classic really runs perfectly fine. In fact "The Sims" plays perfectly (which btw is a good trick) while running in classic on a 266 iMac"
I'm not a spammer, but WA laws don't apply in the state of FL. Since also its Civil laws, I highly doubt extradiction laws apply and even if they did, the constition clearly says your laws don't apply to me.
This effects me how? I live in Florida. Here I can send spamm all day long. The state of Washington's laws end at its borders. The only way interstate activity can be illegal is if the Federal Govt steps in.
This is not even mentioning that since right now it is LEGAL for me to send spam to everyone on the planet while spoofing every piece of header info possible, Washington can do nothing about it even if I travel there.
VCD quality leaves much to be desired and you can make that DVD, but i can't have the level of interactivness of normal DVD's and you are limited to about 1 hour of video. Not exactly a level playing ground.
This is NOT about Intellectual property, it is about free speech. It is about the rights of artists (thats right, artist). Let ME tell YOU why copy control will ruin culture.
Picture it, all Media and Media creators have copy control built in. Not only that, but it uses a similiar strategy that DVD uses: Licensed keys. Now, what makes you think that some kid working on an album in his basement will be able to create that media so that it plays on standard players? If he could, then the very nature of the key system has been broken.
They don't want to make it illegial to copy media, it has already been illegal for a VERY LONG TIME to do that. They don't want to "protect intellectual property", its already legally protected. They want to control who can create the players and who can create the content. GIven them full control over what is publish and what is not published. A monolopy based of a mutual agreement not to compete based on price or artisitic contractual obligations (RIAA anyone?).
The government should have absolutly no vested interest limiting the free exchange of ideas. Any ideas. No matter how absurd they are, no matter what they can be used for. Without that guarantee, we all might as well be slaves.
If i can publish a book detailing how to make bombs, why can't Fenton publish a paper on how SDMI is full of crap? There is no difference.
1. How can they persue any legal action, pertaining to the content of the site, against him when they claim to be the owers of that content. Wouldn't it be in their best interest to disaval all ownership in this case?
2. What university policy did he violate as a volunteer? They own the content, so anything that is obscene is their fault?
3. What exact laws did he break? He claims the script kiddies email threatening the UNI were spoofed...
4. Why would a place that is designed to spread intellectual curiousity be so harse against dissent?
5. Why would a they ask him to remove Slashcode and use a "professional" product that allows moderation? Isn't that thinking contrary to intellectualy curiousity.
Just sounds like another reason not to go to College in Utah to me.
Although I'm all for more software and competition within a specific market, I don't see this is a significant port.
1. It requires one to install X-Windows on MacOS X. Although this is not a difficult process, the final result could never be called transparent. Classic in MacOS is far more a transparent setup than Tenon offering or the patches to X-on-X. X-Windows apps are all grouped togethor. They don't use MacOS menus at all. They require a seperate xterm (as opposed to Terminal) for interaction with X-Win specific prompt commands.
2. It's currently not very fast
3. GrapicCoverter is much more "Mac Like" and significantly easier to use.
4. You need both the Ram and Memory over head of X-Win and gtk to use it.
and finally....5. Gimp really isn't that good for professional work. It lacks ColorSync support. Lacks a decent interface. Lacks 3-d party support.
All in all, its the tool of a hobbiest who is interested in the novelty of Gimp on X-Win on Darwin running "rootless" in Aqua.
"many good x implementations exist for os x. the fact that they dont come from apple shouldnt be a problem for *nix users with their "roll your own" mentality. aqua is better for the consumer crowd"
That X-win system by Tenon is nothing more than xFree with their own imaging system to make it work inside of OS X rather than beside(which of course they think is worth $200), and X-on-X (with a few patches) combined with XFree gives the same effect for less money. So whats the problem you ask? It's not functionaly transparent, just like classic wasn't transparent in the Public Beta (Apple has made a lot of progress with Classic from DP3 to the final version).
What I want is a downloadable package installer that that adds X-win capability to Aqua (well within reasonable limitations, I dont need to export my IE window) that works at least as transparently as Classic does and includes an optional installer package for the X-win headers for compiling packages with Apples port of gcc that comes with OS X.
Or better yet, provide a tool kit that helps covert X-Win GUI calls to Aqua GUI calls and lets us compile them natively.
"Open source is not available to commercial companies. The way the license is written, if you use any open-source software, you have to make the rest of your software open source...."
This is nothing more than RMS flamebait and he knows it. Not only that, there are so many things that is just utter bullshit. Does he really think people wanted to use a web browser to look at thier Hard Disk? (I doubt it) The main problem of IE and Windows integration is that there will eventually be only ONE provider of Internet APIs (known to the world as.NET) and possibily one provider of internet "services". No competition. No motivation for improvement. Nothing. In a perfect work, companies like Sony, HP, and IBM would be able to choose what kind of internet services they provide to their customers. They would complete, which would benifit the consumer. Now we are limited to three views of Internet Services:.NET, Apple's iTools, and AOL. Though I'm a big fan of iTools, its market share is relativly low, which leaves AOL vs..NET. Not much of a choice.
Now that I ranted and got side tracked, I come back to the whole flamebait issue. This is a brilliant idea and works in politics all the time. One side of a debate says something calmly and off the hand that is abusurd to anyone who knows what they are talking about, but to the uneducated masses seems plausible. They then wait for the other side to respond quickly and pointedly and then claim they are being "attacked" or call the response "unreasonable". If people aren't paying attention, and trust me they won't be, they will accept it. We already know whats going to happen, RMS is going to issue a press release or say something in public, because no matter what he can't let anyone mix up Open Source, GPL, and intellectual property. We all know how much tact RMS has.
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1. You know damn that is not why people are complaining and looking for work arounds.
2. Where I am from, all the roads have censors that detect when a car is stoped at a light at night time and changes it to green with a few seconds.
Stop breaking them! Everytime you run a redlight, you run the risk of killing someone. Everytime you speed, you run the risk of killing someone. I personally have been hit by a car that ran a stop sign while riding my bicycle. I lost a friend who ran a stop sign and got side swiped.
You would think you had a right to break traffic laws or something by the way you people bitch.
I think $150 dollar fine for speeding is clear enough.
(as explicitly enumerated in the article) no appeals process
its not a court of law, he has no right to appeal within the company, he can merely challenge the charges in court, which is what he is doing.
(as mentioned in other comments) problems with GPS "jumping" as you switch satelites
This is something he can challenge in court, since it is currently unknown by anyone here whether or not the system detects that the car violated the laws of physics.
"no notification before the money is withdrawn from your account" That is unclear, he never states whether it was on the receipt or not, again something to be challenged in court.
"how much should be withdrawn is solely up to the judgement of the rental agency"
which he was prenotifed of the fees, and he certainly knew he was speeding.
If you don't like the terms, don't sign the contract. End of story.
"More important is the issue of due process," says Keyes. "There's no system for challenging this fine. At least when you get a ticket, the court system allows you to contest it." She claims the speeding charges are constitutionally invalid and go against public policy
Riiiight.....I got news for this fellow, in the US, individuals are constitutional protectioned is exactly zero ways from companies. Zero. This is a clear cut case of contract law, nothing more nothing less.
The only civil rights laws I know of that deal with companies have to do with equal treatment and access based on Race, Sex and Disabilities. Last time I checked, lack of technological prowness was not considered a and technogical access is not a basic human right.
The fees were in the contract, he signed it. The only arguement is whether the contract was valid or invalid. This has nothing to do with rights.
I don't see any "Big Brother" thing here, if everyone voted with your wallet, offensive companies would go out of business.
Couse though stuff like this just ends up allowing a company to smash down a parody site which is within the relm of fair use.....
Its even complete with a horizontal seperator, little arrows for running apps, and a Mail Icon that shows how much unread mail you have.
If France wants to plug up her ears and wipe Nazi artifacts from existence in their own country, fine with me. Yahoo! France complies with French law and if that is not enough for the French authorities, maybe Yahoo! should look into moving their French servers to a neighboring country that has more rational laws.
Then your computer is broken and you should reinstall OS X. Since, on every install of OS X i've seen, Netinfo allows one to turn on root.
There is a password for root out of the box, its the first password for the first admin account you create. End of story. If you say otherwise, you need to reinstall OS X since it was obviously installed incorrectly.
When every I'm "viewing" the internet, my right hand and fore arm can get quite sore from over use. Though, I'm not completly sure its Carpol Tunnel or just an "over active imagination".
--No password for root "
Maybe my English is a little rusty, but "No password for root" usually means there is NO PASSWORD for root.
Then I say, you can turn on root in netinfo, to which you replay
"Not true. But you can run sudo."
But now you say
"But I did know how to turn on root. I used sudo. No one should have to turn on root, that's the point."
1. How can you know how to "turn on root", if there is no "password for root"?
2. You did NOT know how to "turn on root" since you denied that you can do it in Netinfo.
3. If "No one should have to turn on root, that's the point.", why would you a. Why would you bitch, incorrectly at that, about "no password for root"?
It sounds like you are back peddling.
First, OS 9 does support AppleTalk over TCP/IP, which is how OS X mounts OS 9 drivers.
My experimentation suggests OS X uses a modified NFS as default for connecting to other OS X machines.
Is true, can turn on root in Netinfo and LOG IN AS A NORMAL USER.
"No I meant things run really slow. It take forever to load "Classic Mode." Lotus Notes, Office 2001, Diablo, etc they run really reall slow."
If by this you mean "they run almost exactly the same speed as they do inside of OS 9" I'll agree with you. Go get OS X on a SUPPORTED MACHINE and try, cause obviously you dont have it on a supported machine.
OS X, by default, supports NFS, AppleTalk, and with sharity (which is free for educational people) NetBUI. I have an iMac next to me what has NFS mounts from several SGI's in this room, mounts of NT drives upstairs, and an OS 9 drive of a computer behind me.
But...If I were, I would in turn sue the state of WA for violating the constitution of the United States of a America for trying to exercise juris-prudence in what is clearly federal territory. This will shoot down or limit the WA law quite quickly. I repeat, you can NOT sue me in a STATE court for something that happens across a border, you can ONLY do it in a federal court.
1 -- No DVD support
2 -- Odd OEM *nix quirks
--No password for root"
Root is disabled by default as uneccissary for home use. The password is the same as the password for the first admin created when you first install. You can turn it on in Netinfo, if you so choose.
" --weird Bash shell quirks"
You mean the fact it doesn't ship with BASH at all? Or the fact that csh is the default shell? Maybe you meant to say, "I didn't know it wasn't using BASH shell and it confused me"
3 -- Software? Who needs software?
You should check out Version tracker
You should check you iDisk too, it has some stuff that is not on versiontracker.
You should also look for MacWorld annoucements early next month for the shipping of Adobe, Macromedia, Corel, and MANY other very popular 3rd parties. Not to mention the fact that many games for OS 9 are currently being ported or are ported to OS X (check out what the OmniGroup is doing, they port your games for free in a small amount of time). This is not even to mention that ALL of my OS 9 Apps run fine.
4 -- "Classic Mode" == "So slow you want to die mode"
I think you mis-spelled "I never used OS X in my life cause if I had, I would know that Classic runs at about 95% the speed it does by itself, while running inside of OS X" or maybe you meant to say "Classic really runs perfectly fine. In fact "The Sims" plays perfectly (which btw is a good trick) while running in classic on a 266 iMac"
This doesn't affect me.
This is not even mentioning that since right now it is LEGAL for me to send spam to everyone on the planet while spoofing every piece of header info possible, Washington can do nothing about it even if I travel there.
VCD quality leaves much to be desired and you can make that DVD, but i can't have the level of interactivness of normal DVD's and you are limited to about 1 hour of video. Not exactly a level playing ground.
Picture it, all Media and Media creators have copy control built in. Not only that, but it uses a similiar strategy that DVD uses: Licensed keys. Now, what makes you think that some kid working on an album in his basement will be able to create that media so that it plays on standard players? If he could, then the very nature of the key system has been broken.
They don't want to make it illegial to copy media, it has already been illegal for a VERY LONG TIME to do that. They don't want to "protect intellectual property", its already legally protected. They want to control who can create the players and who can create the content. GIven them full control over what is publish and what is not published. A monolopy based of a mutual agreement not to compete based on price or artisitic contractual obligations (RIAA anyone?).
The government should have absolutly no vested interest limiting the free exchange of ideas. Any ideas. No matter how absurd they are, no matter what they can be used for. Without that guarantee, we all might as well be slaves.
If i can publish a book detailing how to make bombs, why can't Fenton publish a paper on how SDMI is full of crap? There is no difference.
1. How can they persue any legal action, pertaining to the content of the site, against him when they claim to be the owers of that content. Wouldn't it be in their best interest to disaval all ownership in this case?
2. What university policy did he violate as a volunteer? They own the content, so anything that is obscene is their fault?
3. What exact laws did he break? He claims the script kiddies email threatening the UNI were spoofed...
4. Why would a place that is designed to spread intellectual curiousity be so harse against dissent?
5. Why would a they ask him to remove Slashcode and use a "professional" product that allows moderation? Isn't that thinking contrary to intellectualy curiousity.
Just sounds like another reason not to go to College in Utah to me.
1. It requires one to install X-Windows on MacOS X. Although this is not a difficult process, the final result could never be called transparent. Classic in MacOS is far more a transparent setup than Tenon offering or the patches to X-on-X. X-Windows apps are all grouped togethor. They don't use MacOS menus at all. They require a seperate xterm (as opposed to Terminal) for interaction with X-Win specific prompt commands.
2. It's currently not very fast
3. GrapicCoverter is much more "Mac Like" and significantly easier to use.
4. You need both the Ram and Memory over head of X-Win and gtk to use it.
and finally....5. Gimp really isn't that good for professional work. It lacks ColorSync support. Lacks a decent interface. Lacks 3-d party support.
All in all, its the tool of a hobbiest who is interested in the novelty of Gimp on X-Win on Darwin running "rootless" in Aqua.
Yeah, likes he's and expert on space travel now! I hope he knows Nasa cancelled all experiments for that week so the Austronauts could baby sit him.
That X-win system by Tenon is nothing more than xFree with their own imaging system to make it work inside of OS X rather than beside(which of course they think is worth $200), and X-on-X (with a few patches) combined with XFree gives the same effect for less money. So whats the problem you ask? It's not functionaly transparent, just like classic wasn't transparent in the Public Beta (Apple has made a lot of progress with Classic from DP3 to the final version).
What I want is a downloadable package installer that that adds X-win capability to Aqua (well within reasonable limitations, I dont need to export my IE window) that works at least as transparently as Classic does and includes an optional installer package for the X-win headers for compiling packages with Apples port of gcc that comes with OS X.
Or better yet, provide a tool kit that helps covert X-Win GUI calls to Aqua GUI calls and lets us compile them natively.
Tell that to Apple, Mr. Balmer.
This is nothing more than RMS flamebait and he knows it. Not only that, there are so many things that is just utter bullshit. Does he really think people wanted to use a web browser to look at thier Hard Disk? (I doubt it) The main problem of IE and Windows integration is that there will eventually be only ONE provider of Internet APIs (known to the world as .NET) and possibily one provider of internet "services". No competition. No motivation for improvement. Nothing. In a perfect work, companies like Sony, HP, and IBM would be able to choose what kind of internet services they provide to their customers. They would complete, which would benifit the consumer. Now we are limited to three views of Internet Services: .NET, Apple's iTools, and AOL. Though I'm a big fan of iTools, its market share is relativly low, which leaves AOL vs. .NET. Not much of a choice.
Now that I ranted and got side tracked, I come back to the whole flamebait issue. This is a brilliant idea and works in politics all the time. One side of a debate says something calmly and off the hand that is abusurd to anyone who knows what they are talking about, but to the uneducated masses seems plausible. They then wait for the other side to respond quickly and pointedly and then claim they are being "attacked" or call the response "unreasonable". If people aren't paying attention, and trust me they won't be, they will accept it. We already know whats going to happen, RMS is going to issue a press release or say something in public, because no matter what he can't let anyone mix up Open Source, GPL, and intellectual property. We all know how much tact RMS has.
Brilliant, Mr. Ballmer, just brilliant.