In a dissenting opinion, Circuit Judges Barry Silverman and Richard Tallman wrote that the majority had taken a clearly written federal statute and parsed it in a manner that distorts the original intent.
"This is not an esoteric concept," Silverman wrote. "A bank teller is entitled to access a bank's money for legitimate banking purposes, but not to take the bank's money for himself." Similarly, while a new car buyer might be entitled to test drive a new car, he would "exceed his authority" to take the car to Mexico. "No other circuit that has considered this statute finds the problems that the majority does," he wrote.
The last two paragraphs of the article clearly explains why the court's finding is wrong ("What, you want me to read the article before commenting?!")
Java is slowly dropping from enterprise usage and is being replaced by C#.
Really? Show me where C# is slowly replacing Java in the enterprise? On the server side Java has no competition. If C# is replacing Java then that would mean companies are also replacing UNIX with Windows as it's the only platform that supports C# (forget Mono). That's definitely not happening.
Netflix streaming is $7.99 for an entire *month* compared to the cable companies who charge $5.99 *per* movie or $12.99 and up for movie channels such as Showtime or Cinemax. So explain again how cable companies are competition to Netflix??
Netflix has had a perfect storm of problems including a buyback of shares when the price was in the $200's. Just like Amazon if you put money into the long-term profitability of the business it's going to hurt the bottom line *short term*. Wall St only cares about the short term hence Netflix trading in the low $70's while Amazon with a recent high of $246.71 is trading in the high $180's.
Every BluRay player, PS/3, Xbox, Wii, Roku, Netflix-enabled HDTV, iPad, Kindle Fire, Nook Color/tablet sold is a potential customer. The recent trend has been to ditch cable and go with Netflix and Hulu-plus to save money.
I'm confused. Why would I ever want to pay for news?
I've got free news from: cnn.com, msnbc.com, foxnews.com, bbc.uk, new radio, various news apps on my smartphone, and tens of thousands of idiotic commentary available to me across the web.
What has NYT got that I can't get elsewhere for free?
FREE isn't always better, it's just cheaper. I'll admit I'm biased as I live in NYC but the NY Times and WSJ are the two best papers in the US. The research and photos are excellent and the paper is huge and just not Sunday's. Also unlike about half of/. I don't get bent out of shape when it comes to Politics (well except for FOX) and I'm not cheap like the other half.
I figured one positive comment on/. for today would be good.
Oracle has over 300,000 customers of it's products. Sun had 30,000. I think the future looks bright for commercial Solaris. At the end of the day someone has to pay for the R&D that leads to innovation and Oracle knows how to sell software and make money. It's called capitalism and it's what pays everyone's salaries. And it's because of this that we will see more innovations like ZFS and DTrace.
This is a good thing as competition always benefits everyone including open source.
I probably installed Windows 7 over 200 times [..]. Since then, I’ve installed the OS at least another 200 times [...]Until a couple of weeks ago, I never encountered a single problem that stopped me from installing Windows 7 itself.
400 installs w/o a problem and then a problem that has nothing to do with Windows 7. Now read the summary of the article, 'If this hardware geek spends days solving a CPU-meets-Windows 7 problem, what chance do mere mortals have?'
Really? That summary blurb is what you got from the article.
First Sun now Borland? Very sad but in both cases you had good technology and poor management. I realize that IBM's funded free Eclipse made hurt Borland JBuilder sales but to sell off the development tools division? Really?
Last year, my daughter and a friend were staying with us for about 6 months. I gave them an old Sony (Celeron 800) laptop to use. Ubuntu installed. Didn't tell them, or guide them in any way.
After a couple of months, I asked how the laptop was working with that different operating system. "Huh...what do you mean?" Of course, she had been conditioned to FireFox on windows beforehand, but they never knew/realized/cared that it wasn't 'Windows'.
You must have the only daughter that doesn't use an iPod! "Dad I can't get iTunes to work on my computer, can you help me?"
Pretty much every virus infected PC I've seen in the past few months was originally infected via the magnificence that is Acrobat Reader (and most of the remainder were infected by the meth-using-crack-whore that is the Sun JRE)
The time is right to go after Acrobat. After explaining to someone that the virus that just trashed their PC (or office's PCs) came in by way of a hidden PDF in an infected web page, not only are they OK with removing the Acrobat browser plugins, but they're often open to getting Acrobat off the machine entirely.
Given the rash of shit that Microsoft has (rightfully) received over the years for browser exploits, it's time to hold Adobe and Sun accountable for their dangerously insecure products. Both companies patch management is terrible. Neither provide any decent support for sysadmins to push out updates ("uh, try to find the MSI that the installer drops and then, you know, push it out with something. I think you can do it with Group Policies!" is about as far as they go) For Java it's been easy to say "just get rid of it" since for 99% of people it's unnecessary, but Acrobat and Acrobat Reader have been more of a challenge. Perhaps highlighting how insecure Acrobat is will help move the effort to replace it along.
What version of Sun JRE was running? I haven't heard of any viruses with Sun Java in years.
So what did Adobe and Sun say when you reported the problem??
2.Solaris fanatics: people who absolutely refuse to acknowledge any shortcoming in Solaris, no matter how glaringly obvious. Every user community has people like that, but for some reason Solaris seems to attract the most rabid ones - I don't know why.
You're kidding, right? The Linux user community is a known hangout for rabid fan boys and/. is their gathering spot. Have you ever noticed how biased/. stories are when it comes to Linux? The fact you haven't notice this is because you are a Linux supporter so you don't notice. I just think it's funny that a Linux person is talking about fanatics.
Pot, Kettle, black.
How is this any different then the current situation with Linux?
Admin: "There's a bug in the operating system, it's corrupting data under these circumstances" RedHat: "Naw, not at all. The problem is in the IBM firmware. The operating system is doing the right thing". IBM: "WTF? no it ain't, the problem is in the operating system."
Queue many hours of haranguing both companies.
When I worked at Morgan Stanley it took months for RedHat & IBM to come back with a fix for kernel panics caused in the end by IBM firmware on their blades.
At least in the case of Sun they actually are the ones who wrote the code to their OS. RedHat just repackages kernel.org's kernel, with applied patches.
``As many are already aware, we embarked upon a journey a couple years ago to formally separate the Solaris operating system from Sun's hardware business - as well as bring Solaris to the free and open source software world via a community effort named OpenSolaris. None of these changes were easy, but I'd like to believe both were successful. What's my proof?`` Read the rest in Sun CEO's blog.
What I love is you avoid even commenting on the below because you know Solaris is more reliable and a better engineered kernel than Linux. Not hard to believe when Sun spent 500 million on Solaris 10 and have the best kernel developers in the world working on it AS A REAL JOB not part time hackers.
If Linux is so great than why do companies like Morgan Stanley or Goldman Sachs have linux crashing or hanging while Solaris just keeps on running? The ONLY reason people run Linux in the Enterprise is because until recently it was the ONLY OS other than Windows than ran on x86. Not that it's so great. No that it's free (RedHat is anything but FREE). It's that it runs on cheap AMD/Intel hardware. Of course Sun now fully supports Solaris 10 x86 so yet another reason to ditch Linux. I'd take Linux on the desktop over Solaris as Solaris is clearly a server OS but then I'd take Mac OS X over Linux hands down on the desktop.
* The reason why Solaris was the OS of the dot com era was because is was so reliable. At the Brokerage firms I've worked at you always see Linux crash or hang and Solaris just keeps on running. That's been my experience.
* And remember Solaris was designed from the beginning to support SMP, threading, and soft real-time. Things that Linux only later had hacked on (and soft real-time is still not part of Linux).
If you really think Linux is so great maybe you could give some examples of what makes Linux better than Solaris or Mac OS X? I've been around UNIX for almost as long as you and was using Linux before the 1.0 days.
Explain why most of the RedHat and IBM enhancements to Linux have not made it into the Linux kernel? Taking unsupported code and throwing it up on a company's website in a hard to reach location is enough to comply with the GPL. Moreover, most companies just keep their additions to Linux in-house and proprietary. GPL does not help there either.
You hacked the open source BSD NYIT kernel in the 80's so you know it takes a lot more than source code to integrate these things into the kernel. That is the area where Sun's Solaris has a clear advantage. It has a paid staff of some of the best and brightest kernel developers whose job it is to work on the Solaris kernel. There is no need for unsupported code thrown over the wall to remain competitive!
A comparison of the quality of the code bases backs this up.
``[..] and under a GPL license for Mac OS X and Linux/X11 for the Open Source community. Qt/Windows will be available under the GPL license at Qt 4 launch.``
Thanks. I misunderstood what they meant by Linux/X11.
An exit strategy like IBM in the 90's? Companies go through good times and bad times and Sun will turn themselves around just as IBM did.
For those too young to remember the 90's, it was a time when IBM was getting beat up by RISC UNIX boxes from HP and Sun and mainframes were on the way out.
If Sun wanted to get out of the server market then how do you explain spending $500 million on Solaris 10? Why invest in an all new line using it's own developed Sun hardware based on AMD Opteron chips? Or the new SPARC Throughput Computing chips (http://www.sun.com/processors/throughput/)?
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In a dissenting opinion, Circuit Judges Barry Silverman and Richard Tallman wrote that the majority had taken a clearly written federal statute and parsed it in a manner that distorts the original intent.
"This is not an esoteric concept," Silverman wrote. "A bank teller is entitled to access a bank's money for legitimate banking purposes, but not to take the bank's money for himself." Similarly, while a new car buyer might be entitled to test drive a new car, he would "exceed his authority" to take the car to Mexico. "No other circuit that has considered this statute finds the problems that the majority does," he wrote.
The last two paragraphs of the article clearly explains why the court's finding is wrong ("What, you want me to read the article before commenting?!")
Isn't that really what /. people care about? Alien ship crashes from another galaxy. "Is the ship powered by Linux?"
Java is slowly dropping from enterprise usage and is being replaced by C#.
Really? Show me where C# is slowly replacing Java in the enterprise? On the server side Java has no competition. If C# is replacing Java then that would mean companies are also replacing UNIX with Windows as it's the only platform that supports C# (forget Mono). That's definitely not happening.
With all the 100's of millions of iOS devices being sold each year its just a matter of time.
Netflix streaming is $7.99 for an entire *month* compared to the cable companies who charge $5.99 *per* movie or $12.99 and up for movie channels such as Showtime or Cinemax. So explain again how cable companies are competition to Netflix??
Netflix has had a perfect storm of problems including a buyback of shares when the price was in the $200's. Just like Amazon if you put money into the long-term profitability of the business it's going to hurt the bottom line *short term*. Wall St only cares about the short term hence Netflix trading in the low $70's while Amazon with a recent high of $246.71 is trading in the high $180's.
Every BluRay player, PS/3, Xbox, Wii, Roku, Netflix-enabled HDTV, iPad, Kindle Fire, Nook Color/tablet sold is a potential customer. The recent trend has been to ditch cable and go with Netflix and Hulu-plus to save money.
The Nook Color can be found for $149 Pre-Owned and $79 for Nook B&W Simple Touch @ Barnes and Noble. At those prices I had to buy both. Color: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/cert-pre-owned-nook-color-barnes-noble/1100666155 B&W: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/cpo-nook-simple-touch-barnes-noble/1102471846
I'm confused. Why would I ever want to pay for news?
I've got free news from: cnn.com, msnbc.com, foxnews.com, bbc.uk, new radio, various news apps on my smartphone, and tens of thousands of idiotic commentary available to me across the web.
What has NYT got that I can't get elsewhere for free?
FREE isn't always better, it's just cheaper. I'll admit I'm biased as I live in NYC but the NY Times and WSJ are the two best papers in the US. The research and photos are excellent and the paper is huge and just not Sunday's. Also unlike about half of /. I don't get bent out of shape when it comes to Politics (well except for FOX) and I'm not cheap like the other half.
I figured one positive comment on /. for today would be good.
The skit was really fun. Nice to see SNL treating Assange for what he is.
Oracle has over 300,000 customers of it's products. Sun had 30,000. I think the future looks bright for commercial Solaris. At the end of the day someone has to pay for the R&D that leads to innovation and Oracle knows how to sell software and make money. It's called capitalism and it's what pays everyone's salaries. And it's because of this that we will see more innovations like ZFS and DTrace.
This is a good thing as competition always benefits everyone including open source.
Next time you make a mistake have your boss call up Gizmodo and do a story on it. Then lets see how you feel.
Amazing how people have a hard time putting themselves in other people's shoes.
I probably installed Windows 7 over 200 times [..]. Since then, I’ve installed the OS at least another 200 times [...]Until a couple of weeks ago, I never encountered a single problem that stopped me from installing Windows 7 itself.
400 installs w/o a problem and then a problem that has nothing to do with Windows 7. Now read the summary of the article, 'If this hardware geek spends days solving a CPU-meets-Windows 7 problem, what chance do mere mortals have?'
Really? That summary blurb is what you got from the article.
Gotta love /. people.
First Sun now Borland? Very sad but in both cases you had good technology and poor management. I realize that IBM's funded free Eclipse made hurt Borland JBuilder sales but to sell off the development tools division? Really?
Last year, my daughter and a friend were staying with us for about 6 months. I gave them an old Sony (Celeron 800) laptop to use. Ubuntu installed.
Didn't tell them, or guide them in any way.
After a couple of months, I asked how the laptop was working with that different operating system.
"Huh...what do you mean?" Of course, she had been conditioned to FireFox on windows beforehand, but they never knew/realized/cared that it wasn't 'Windows'.
You must have the only daughter that doesn't use an iPod! "Dad I can't get iTunes to work on my computer, can you help me?"
The LA Times had this "scoop" a week ago. This is old news!
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-lazarus11-2009feb11,0,6849007.column
Pretty much every virus infected PC I've seen in the past few months was originally infected via the magnificence that is Acrobat Reader (and most of the remainder were infected by the meth-using-crack-whore that is the Sun JRE)
The time is right to go after Acrobat. After explaining to someone that the virus that just trashed their PC (or office's PCs) came in by way of a hidden PDF in an infected web page, not only are they OK with removing the Acrobat browser plugins, but they're often open to getting Acrobat off the machine entirely.
Given the rash of shit that Microsoft has (rightfully) received over the years for browser exploits, it's time to hold Adobe and Sun accountable for their dangerously insecure products. Both companies patch management is terrible. Neither provide any decent support for sysadmins to push out updates ("uh, try to find the MSI that the installer drops and then, you know, push it out with something. I think you can do it with Group Policies!" is about as far as they go) For Java it's been easy to say "just get rid of it" since for 99% of people it's unnecessary, but Acrobat and Acrobat Reader have been more of a challenge. Perhaps highlighting how insecure Acrobat is will help move the effort to replace it along.
What version of Sun JRE was running? I haven't heard of any viruses with Sun Java in years.
So what did Adobe and Sun say when you reported the problem??
2.Solaris fanatics: people who absolutely refuse to acknowledge any shortcoming in Solaris, no matter how glaringly obvious. Every user community has people like that, but for some reason Solaris seems to attract the most rabid ones - I don't know why.
/. is their gathering spot. Have you ever noticed how biased /. stories are when it comes to Linux? The fact you haven't notice this is because you are a Linux supporter so you don't notice. I just think it's funny that a Linux person is talking about fanatics.
Pot, Kettle, black.
You're kidding, right? The Linux user community is a known hangout for rabid fan boys and
How is this any different then the current situation with Linux?
Admin: "There's a bug in the operating system, it's corrupting data under these circumstances"
RedHat: "Naw, not at all. The problem is in the IBM firmware. The operating system is doing the right thing".
IBM: "WTF? no it ain't, the problem is in the operating system."
Queue many hours of haranguing both companies.
When I worked at Morgan Stanley it took months for RedHat & IBM to come back with a fix for kernel panics caused in the end by IBM firmware on their blades.
At least in the case of Sun they actually are the ones who wrote the code to their OS. RedHat just repackages kernel.org's kernel, with applied patches.
``As many are already aware, we embarked upon a journey a couple years ago to formally separate the Solaris operating system from Sun's hardware business - as well as bring Solaris to the free and open source software world via a community effort named OpenSolaris. None of these changes were easy, but I'd like to believe both were successful. What's my proof?`` Read the rest in Sun CEO's blog.
What I love is you avoid even commenting on the below because you know Solaris is more reliable and a better engineered kernel than Linux. Not hard to believe when Sun spent 500 million on Solaris 10 and have the best kernel developers in the world working on it AS A REAL JOB not part time hackers.
If Linux is so great than why do companies like Morgan Stanley or Goldman Sachs have linux crashing or hanging while Solaris just keeps on running? The ONLY reason people run Linux in the Enterprise is because until recently it was the ONLY OS other than Windows than ran on x86. Not that it's so great. No that it's free (RedHat is anything but FREE). It's that it runs on cheap AMD/Intel hardware. Of course Sun now fully supports Solaris 10 x86 so yet another reason to ditch Linux. I'd take Linux on the desktop over Solaris as Solaris is clearly a server OS but then I'd take Mac OS X over Linux hands down on the desktop.
* The reason why Solaris was the OS of the dot com era was because is was so reliable. At the Brokerage firms I've worked at you always see Linux crash or hang and Solaris just keeps on running. That's been my experience.
* And remember Solaris was designed from the beginning to support SMP, threading, and soft real-time. Things that Linux only later had hacked on (and soft real-time is still not part of Linux).
If you really think Linux is so great maybe you could give some examples of what makes Linux better than Solaris or Mac OS X? I've been around UNIX for almost as long as you and was using Linux before the 1.0 days.
Perhaps if you hadn't picked a flamebait title?
a risblade/
I didn't pick the title, The Register did: http://www.theregister.com/2005/10/27/sun_ibm_sol
Sun freezes hell, gets IBM to sell Solaris on blades
Shiver me servers
By Ashlee Vance in Mountain View
Published Thursday 27th October 2005 19:59 GMT
I submitted this story last Friday and it was rejected!!! Now 5 days later it's 'news'.
Sun freezes hell, gets IBM to sell Solaris on blades Friday October 28, @10:55AM Rejected
Bruce,
Explain why most of the RedHat and IBM enhancements to Linux have not made it into the Linux kernel? Taking unsupported code and throwing it up on a company's website in a hard to reach location is enough to comply with the GPL. Moreover, most companies just keep their additions to Linux in-house and proprietary. GPL does not help there either.
You hacked the open source BSD NYIT kernel in the 80's so you know it takes a lot more than source code to integrate these things into the kernel. That is the area where Sun's Solaris has a clear advantage. It has a paid staff of some of the best and brightest kernel developers whose job it is to work on the Solaris kernel. There is no need for unsupported code thrown over the wall to remain competitive!
A comparison of the quality of the code bases backs this up.
``[..] and under a GPL license for Mac OS X and Linux/X11 for the Open Source community. Qt/Windows will be available under the GPL license at Qt 4 launch.``
Thanks. I misunderstood what they meant by Linux/X11.
It mentions that Mac OS X and Linux/X11 are GPL and Windows will become GPL in v4. What about the other versions of UNIX?
An exit strategy like IBM in the 90's? Companies go through good times and bad times and Sun will turn themselves around just as IBM did.
For those too young to remember the 90's, it was a time when IBM was getting beat up by RISC UNIX boxes from HP and Sun and mainframes were on the way out.
If Sun wanted to get out of the server market then how do you explain spending $500 million on Solaris 10? Why invest in an all new line using it's own developed Sun hardware based on AMD Opteron chips? Or the new SPARC Throughput Computing chips (http://www.sun.com/processors/throughput/)?