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microsoft can stop apple dead by ceasing production of office and leaning on other developers. why isnt office on linux? because linux is on x86
remember, sgi lost their (percieved) advantage when they went x86. sun continues to hold its advantage
I, for one, would never wish to waste money to buy the overexpensive hardware and software compared to a decent Linux box.
i would have thought weve had enough mac discussions on slashdot recently that people would not continue to perpetuate the overexpensive stereotype
i dont think $799 for a well designed risc g3 box with firewire, 100baset and monitor is overexpensive. i dont think $1299 for a gigaflop g4 with gigabit ethernet is expensive. i dont think $3500 for a _complete_ dvd authoring solution is expensive. that machine may be expensive as a mail server, but that isnt its use
i dont go around deriding linux as worthless because it cant hold a candle to the mac in video editing. like the man said, the right machine for the right job
typical american hatemongering. if you know anything about the facts, you know that during the gulf war, sadam was warned if he used chemical weapons, he faced a hugely disporpotionate (threatened nuclear) response. despite the american use of chemical weapons and invasion deep into iraq, iraq did not use chemical weapons against american forces
they may be foreigners, but theyre not stupid. mutually assured destruction is even more powerful now that it is one sided. as long as you can keep your politicians and generals from completely destroying a country with nuclear capability, you shouldnt have to worry about retaliation because the other guy knows he will lose everything
wait, you decided not to get the ti based on the one button, but you hate trackpads and wouldnt use it anyway? this doesnt make too much sense to me
if you hate trackpads youd have to get something else for most laptops anyway, and you could get that something else with as many buttons as you want. so why does the single button trackpad bother you?
ok, so this is a little wider than you are thinking, but with handwriting recognition supposedly being readied for mac os x, the rumour is that the powerbook will get a touch sensitive screen and the ability to unhinge its keyboard (have to move the proc up though)
apple states that mac os x/darwin is based on freebsd 3.2. how complete an implementation is this? has darwin contributed any new ideas/code/features to bsd?
microsofts apple stock is extremely small and they are non voting shares. they have no control over apple through these. the stock was a pr manouver as a vote of confidence and in exchange apple dropped lawsuits against ms
microsoft _does_ exercise control over apple in the form of microsoft office. if ms were to withdraw office for macintosh, apple would be in serious pr and actual trouble
even with this ms control, apple is unlikely to back down on things they see as their vision. ms tried to use office to get apple to cease development of quicktime (competitor to windows media player), but apple refused and started making noises to the ftc. hopefully with microsoft under scrutiny they wont use monopoly power to exercise control
arent those standards for analog tv? i dont think that has anything to do with the way the dvd is burnt. prob only an issue for player to tv transmission
the only points you make in the t21s favour are that it has a ridiculously high resolution (no one is going to run a screen that small at 1400x1050), it is lighter (less than a pound), and a previous series has proven itself on the market for seven or eight months (so? the previous version of the pb g4 has proven itself on the market for almost 3 _years_)
now look at what the powerbook g4 has over the t21: a g4 with vector processing unit (no, no other laptop comes close), _five_ hour battery, firewire, 15" widescreen, just 1 inch thick!
i can understand you feel foolish for just getting the t21 and need to reassure yourself, but there is always ebay. and oh, the powerbook g4 will run os x better than your t21 ever will!
actually, if steves one os strategy is to be believed, os x server is the same as mosx with smb, webobjects, etc tossed on. so we should be able to buy mosx and add webobjects separately
power computing (the big clone company) was always in the red. power computings strategy was to sell at a loss in order to gain mindshare and marketshare. apple supposedly warned them in private not to do this and asked clone makers to expand the market (clone makers only advertised in mac magazines), then finally killed cloning
you can argue that apple should be a software company, but with the current size of the market im not sure they could support themselves. it is also hard to argue that apple produces uncompetitive hardware when new imacs start at $799 (w/monitor, firewire, good graphics, etc)
the mhz war has see-sawed before (when ppc was at 250 mhz the pentium was breaking 100 mhz) and i expect apple to match/exceed x86 by years end. why ppc? alternatives are good, and ppc is an efficient and powerful design. the ppc forte is math intensive and streaming media servers
1. ease of use (no, really)
2. consumer apps (m$ office, photoshop, quicktime, etc)
3. new development (drivers install on the fly, advanced smp, etc. no we havent solved these yet)
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isnt this true of most things? i can keep my job while i go to school because i have a car. if i had to take a bus it would be impossible. so the car is contributing to who i am, and my hopefully higher future income. should i not be able to sell my car? if i did, heaven forbid, someone else might be able to better herself but the poor car company would only get paid once!
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i already own the patent on the frivolous interchange of transport mechanisms in order to create new art for the purpose of wealth generated cesation of work
microsoft can stop apple dead by ceasing production of office and leaning on other developers. why isnt office on linux? because linux is on x86
remember, sgi lost their (percieved) advantage when they went x86. sun continues to hold its advantage
a very good discussion here
I, for one, would never wish to waste money to buy the overexpensive hardware and software compared to a decent Linux box.
i would have thought weve had enough mac discussions on slashdot recently that people would not continue to perpetuate the overexpensive stereotype
i dont think $799 for a well designed risc g3 box with firewire, 100baset and monitor is overexpensive. i dont think $1299 for a gigaflop g4 with gigabit ethernet is expensive. i dont think $3500 for a _complete_ dvd authoring solution is expensive. that machine may be expensive as a mail server, but that isnt its use
i dont go around deriding linux as worthless because it cant hold a candle to the mac in video editing. like the man said, the right machine for the right job
Huh? How complete is Linux 2.2?
i am not comparing it to linux, i am comparing it to freebsd. is it missing any freebsd features?
Darwin is open source. Therefore it has contributed as much as FreeBSD wishes to take from it.
yes, but has darwin improved on freebsd? is there anything to gain from darwin?
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if admins cared about power usage and heat dissipation, powerpc processors would rule
they dont
no one cares
dvd studio pro
speech recognition
quake vii
typical american hatemongering. if you know anything about the facts, you know that during the gulf war, sadam was warned if he used chemical weapons, he faced a hugely disporpotionate (threatened nuclear) response. despite the american use of chemical weapons and invasion deep into iraq, iraq did not use chemical weapons against american forces
they may be foreigners, but theyre not stupid. mutually assured destruction is even more powerful now that it is one sided. as long as you can keep your politicians and generals from completely destroying a country with nuclear capability, you shouldnt have to worry about retaliation because the other guy knows he will lose everything
wait, you decided not to get the ti based on the one button, but you hate trackpads and wouldnt use it anyway? this doesnt make too much sense to me
if you hate trackpads youd have to get something else for most laptops anyway, and you could get that something else with as many buttons as you want. so why does the single button trackpad bother you?
ok, so this is a little wider than you are thinking, but with handwriting recognition supposedly being readied for mac os x, the rumour is that the powerbook will get a touch sensitive screen and the ability to unhinge its keyboard (have to move the proc up though)
apple states that mac os x/darwin is based on freebsd 3.2. how complete an implementation is this? has darwin contributed any new ideas/code/features to bsd?
microsofts apple stock is extremely small and they are non voting shares. they have no control over apple through these. the stock was a pr manouver as a vote of confidence and in exchange apple dropped lawsuits against ms
microsoft _does_ exercise control over apple in the form of microsoft office. if ms were to withdraw office for macintosh, apple would be in serious pr and actual trouble
even with this ms control, apple is unlikely to back down on things they see as their vision. ms tried to use office to get apple to cease development of quicktime (competitor to windows media player), but apple refused and started making noises to the ftc. hopefully with microsoft under scrutiny they wont use monopoly power to exercise control
pokemon rulz, foolz!!!
arent those standards for analog tv? i dont think that has anything to do with the way the dvd is burnt. prob only an issue for player to tv transmission
the only points you make in the t21s favour are that it has a ridiculously high resolution (no one is going to run a screen that small at 1400x1050), it is lighter (less than a pound), and a previous series has proven itself on the market for seven or eight months (so? the previous version of the pb g4 has proven itself on the market for almost 3 _years_)
now look at what the powerbook g4 has over the t21: a g4 with vector processing unit (no, no other laptop comes close), _five_ hour battery, firewire, 15" widescreen, just 1 inch thick!
i can understand you feel foolish for just getting the t21 and need to reassure yourself, but there is always ebay. and oh, the powerbook g4 will run os x better than your t21 ever will!
actually, if steves one os strategy is to be believed, os x server is the same as mosx with smb, webobjects, etc tossed on. so we should be able to buy mosx and add webobjects separately
wow, it would seem webobjects now runs on mosx (thats mac os x, pronounced "mo' sex")
i noticed steve said very slowly as if to get it right: now you can burn for the 10 million dvd players in the usa
me thinks it is region usa only
it would seem they have silently released a new version of os x server that is the same rev as mac os x
see this page
if incompatible means they cant use each others code, why is gnutar included in the default install of mosx?
streaming media, compression, encryption, you get the picture (yes, x86 may be cheaper for text editing)
when using altivec, ppc has strong advantages over even the 1.4 ghz p4
and no, they dont cost >$3k (as stated elsewhere). g4s start at $1299 (new, w/gigabit ethernet)
power computing (the big clone company) was always in the red. power computings strategy was to sell at a loss in order to gain mindshare and marketshare. apple supposedly warned them in private not to do this and asked clone makers to expand the market (clone makers only advertised in mac magazines), then finally killed cloning
you can argue that apple should be a software company, but with the current size of the market im not sure they could support themselves. it is also hard to argue that apple produces uncompetitive hardware when new imacs start at $799 (w/monitor, firewire, good graphics, etc)
the mhz war has see-sawed before (when ppc was at 250 mhz the pentium was breaking 100 mhz) and i expect apple to match/exceed x86 by years end. why ppc? alternatives are good, and ppc is an efficient and powerful design. the ppc forte is math intensive and streaming media servers
1. ease of use (no, really)
2. consumer apps (m$ office, photoshop, quicktime, etc)
3. new development (drivers install on the fly, advanced smp, etc. no we havent solved these yet)
mac os x will only come of age when micro$oft creates a mac os x myths page for it :-)
the streaming server you speak of is quicktime streaming server, and yes it is open source and supported by apple
it runs on darwin (mac os x sans graphics layey) and has been ported by the open source community to linux and nt
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isnt this true of most things? i can keep my job while i go to school because i have a car. if i had to take a bus it would be impossible. so the car is contributing to who i am, and my hopefully higher future income. should i not be able to sell my car? if i did, heaven forbid, someone else might be able to better herself but the poor car company would only get paid once!