great! I tire of paying higher prices so the hacker community can prove how "insecure" everything is. They were stealing, now they aren't, bravo Hughes!!!
Buy.com via Nutscrape 4.xx since they switched to an MS backend? The pages render for shit, this is just the beggining, Windows machines will need both browsers to truly navigate, and Linux (and any other OS for that matter) will just suffer. Man I hate MS.
Of course you got bored, how can anyone stay interested in a game that the "fan community" over hyped so much that I waited until just recently to even bother playing the game. The whole idea of joining a clan when the game hadn't even been released was just plain silly, and that same vocal crowd caused a lot of stupid stuff to make it into the game (the whole Diablo II suggestion forum at the Blizzard web site became worthless after the fanboys got organized on a few points). I was a big fan a the original Diablo, and while I think Diablo II is a nice evolution, the pre release hype and the crazed fanboys (many of whom admitted to never playing the first Diablo, but they were sure they would love Diablo II) beat down the developers who originally had better ideas about how to handle PKs and potential for hacking. The sound is excellent, the gameplay fairly balanced, and the graphics about the best you could do without making the minimum machine specs too high for many casual gamers (i.e. requiring a 3D card). The whole Dialbo II prerelease hype is a great example of how the fan community can screw up a good thing, I see most of the clans are already dead and forgotten, and the PKs and hacks are already at it again. Too bad, since the fanboys were so insistant that PKing was part of the game and more realistic (like a game where I kill Satan with my magic axe is based in reality???), the hacks have found exploits and now PKing IS the game. Same story as Diablo I, now I have to play password protected games with friends or live with single player, can't just jump into a public game like Quake and be sure I am not going to get screwed by a cheating PK. Bahhhh!!! I think I will boot off a floppy and play some Ultima Underworld, fanboys suck!!!
My custom compiled Red Hat 7 is overall slower than Win 98 on my K6-2/500 with 192 megs RAM. In fact, Linux is slower on my PIII/667 +128 I am sitting at right now, so although IE loading as part of the UI does slow boot up, I think Win98 is generally faster. We have half a dozen Linux boxes in our office, and all are slower than comparably equipped Windows boxes. Linux is only faster with no windowing environment loaded, all of the desktop options are slow and bloated.
If this were true then wouldn't the last 2 years of development brought us a better browser. Moz is a poor browser and still crashes far to often, Netscape should hang it up but won't, and although I do hate M$, IE is still the best browser. Flame on!
Got your attention, I have read a good number of these post and it seems almost everyone has read the article, worthless piece of trash that it is. I don't have a problem with Katz, but I do take issue with pop psychology presented as fact. Are you sure you arent' just a mindless, biased Katz hypocrite?
a little suspect, like this chunk...
"Gaming has exploded in the past few years until, according to Steven Poole's book Trigger Happy, videogame sales now equal movie ticket receipts. Sales of game consoles and software in the United States will top $17 billion a year by 2003 (the music industry, by comparison, reported revenues of $15 billion last year)."
While gaming might be approaching these forms of entertainment in gross dollars, it's not a fair comparison when the average movie ticket is $7 and a CD $13 when most games are $49.99. Then the whole pretense that anyone is "learning" life lessons from games is just some more new age psychology that doesn't was with anyone who isn't a shut-in or writing a cheesey treatment on video game psychology. I have learned better hand-eye coordination and abstract problem solving with gaming (and have lots of fun), but I have yet to find a life lesson? Maybe I have played the wrong games? I have been an avid console and PC Gamer since the days of the Atari 2600 and bought a 486 so I could play Wing Commander, I have owned almost every generation of console and spent way too much on video and sound cards to play the latest and greatest, but the vast majority of recent games just suck. If I picked up any life lesson from gaming it's "marketing departments suck ass". I can't find enough compelling content for my gaming dollars, although at least Sega is taking some interesting chances on the Dreamcast (Jet Grind Radio is the shit, Baby!). While there is no question that gaming is growing, there are still a lot of people just buying sports games, franchise titles, and just plain dreck from the bargain bin. Where is the life lesson there? What's the life lesson in DOOM, don't step in toxic waste and always look for secret doors? What's the life lesson in Tomb Raider, don't climb mountains in a tank top and shorts? What a bunch of crap!
Yes I have, and while it is a step in the right direction it has a long way to go. I love Linux, but I tire of these stupid wars. All this in fighting over desktop environment and I still can't get a decent email client.
both Gnome and KDE suck ass as a desktop environment. Any GUI that makes it easier to use the command line than it's file manager just blows. And of course Red Hat must be part of the evil.
Did you list reliability and functionality in the same post as Nutscrape? Do you work around a lot of chemical fumes? Live near a nuclear reactor? Just kidding, but do you really think the Netscape is more reliable? I wish I had back all the time I have wasted killing Nutscrape zombies.
Okay, Mozilla sucks ass. While it has gotten a lot better latley, it still crashes way too much. It dies on a number of ASP (I know I shouldn't surf anywhere that serves pages on IIS, but I can't avoid it) based site, and hangs at places like Buy.com, Maximumlinux.com forums, at ATI's web site when their java based navigation system tries to load, and a host of others. The email client is still unstable, and appears to have inherited the stupid address book bug from the previous versions of Netscape. So I am stuck with Nutscrape on Linux or booting a Winodws machine to browse the web. I spent the last 6 months using nothing but Linux, and while I am quite happy with all of the stability and power I have under Linux, the web browsing experience sucks. Plug in set up is a horror story, stability is the one thing completely lacking in Nutscrape, and the KDE2 browser actually manages to have uglier fonts than Netscape? How am I supposed to push Linux to the desktop on my network when I can't even find a decent browser? I can't tell my boss to back of on his Internet strategy while open source tries to build a decent looking or stable browser? Face reality, Mozilla/Nutscrape open source is a failure, it's way too late and still sucks. I don't like it, but IE is simply a better browser. I await your flames, rants, and taunts with much anticipation since I must be an idiot for not liking an open source project. The open source/Linux community hasn't produced a decent browser yet, and now they are set to do the same job on Star Office. At least I have 30 different text editors to choose from.
I see your point, and in the case of many apps I can see this as relevant. But when a desktop environment is started strictly to spite another, it's a waste of effort. I have no problem with variety and choice, in fact I do believe it's one of the greatest strengths of Linux. But the desktop sucks (I type this from within KDE 2) and maybe if we focussed all of the energy on building 1 environment we could come up with one that would truly best the Windows environment. The whole "scratching the itch" argument holds little water, the only thing that scratches alot of I.T. pros itch is $$$. Just my opinion.
good points. And one paticularly sad point, that so many people here debated whether this was real? So much for the astute geeks of slashdot.
The whole thing was brilliant and spot on. I have spent the last 6 months working exclusively in Linux, but last night at my wife's request I set up one of our machines with Windows 98. The bottom line, while flawed and not as stable as it should be, Windows is a lot closer to an ideal desktop OS than Linux is at the moment. KDE2 is a step in the right direction, but there is a long way to go. I have established a number of Linux boxes on my floor at work, and when used on the limited fashion that my data entry people apply the desktop is funcitional, but I can't even start to approach pushing it on more advanced users. And don't throw around Gnome/HelixCode, when the simple act of copying a file forces 2 dialog boxes to pop, it just sucks. And please don't reply that I should do something about it, I am not a programmer, but the points regarding wasted energy concerning desktop development are more than correct.
And while I do like much of what Raymond has to say, both his and Stallman's posturing will do much harm to the cause as a whole. I actually work hard to keep rants from Stallman from my boss, a few lines of Stallman rhetoric will have Linux off of my network for good.
And while the 2.4 kernel is quite exciting, it wasn't until I popped Windows on a machine last night that I recalled why I bought a Sound Blaster Live in the first place. Or how easy 3D card set up can be. I love Linux, and I am more than aware of Windows many shortcomings (and I will be glad to jump on the MS bashing bandwagon when they deserve it), but Linux is still suffering from many of the shortcomings it has had from inception, and it doesn't look like they will be fixed soon. I have found myself caught up in the same thing the author mentions, using Windows shortcomings to justify a need for Linux, but the truth is that I can't whole heartedly recomend Linux across the board because we still haven't addressed some of it's most fundamental flaws. Oh well, I await your brilliant retorts with fire extinguisher in hand.
before it was slashdotted, there's are rarity. After playing with the 1.93 RPMs from the Red Hat 7 previews, I am pretty excited. Although I did think it ate a little too much memory? But no worse than Helix Code.
I wouldn't call it a reigious belief, but more of a question as to why Red Hat gets relegated to the script kiddies, when it has the same vulnerabilities that any distro has. What decent admin would put a box out that is available to the whole of the net without doing some serious lock down on assorted services. Wait, I take that back, I share an office with a supposed sys admin who brags that he runs "out of the box" installs that have never been cracked.
But seriously, although every.0 release has some growing pains, I like the fact they push new technology and find their products to be pretty solid, so where did this script kiddie stuff really come from? From my experience Red Hat addresses their problems quickly and makes every effort to work with and support the goals of the community while attempting to show that there is some profit to be derived from OSS projects. Am I really a Red Hat loyalist? No, I would switch distros tommorow if someone came up with something I liked better, and I may very well switch when the distros with 2.4 start hitting. But I am also pushing Linux on to my corporate desktops, and one of the main reasons I can even consider this is because the suits have heard of Red Hat and read about their support and partnering efforts. Think I could walk into a meeting and push Debian because it is "more pure" than Red Hat? Sorry, I like my job. Maybe I have missed it, but it strikes me that stuff like Corel and Mandrake do our community a greater disservice than Red Hat ever has? And I am not really slamming either distro, I don't care for them but I also firmly believe that any distro that gets someone to try Linux is worth supporting. Oh well, opinions vary. And the bias is obvious, it's just easier for some to right it off as fanatacism.
everyone bash it!!! Red Hat could donate all of their equipment and facilities to the FSF, donate all of their coders to Debian, and hand out free copies of their OS at the airport, and still someone here would have to complain Red Hat is evil. Strange things are afoot at the peoples republic of slashdot? Could it be anti-RedHat bias from our parent sponsor? Noooo, this is an unbiased web site. I read almost every other day here how Red Hat sucks, maybe one day one of my Red Hat machines will crash so I can join in on the bashing? I patiently await your downward moderation=P
This is a really funny post, I have to assume you were shooting for humor here, since anyone who has had a look at KDE 2 knows your statements aren't based in any sense or reality. KDE2 looks to stomp gnome back into footprints!
And I would have to say that 7 has strived to be both more secure for newbies, and include new features to drive things forward. What else should they do, using Linux requires some know how.
Becaue I dared to disagree with the braintrust at Slackdot.com! There isn't a bit of this post that isn't rooted in the truth, but the loyalist don't want to hear it. Red Hat bashing is fashionable, but pointless. Too bad the community continues to fracture based on lousy journalism (using the term loosely) at place like Cnet and Slashdot (now in the same category in my book). Hurry up and moderate this down, we wouldn't want a casual reader to see the recent track record on Red Hat misreporting.
the brain trust at Slashdot found another reason to bash not only Red Hat, but Red Hat users. Let's see, how many reports on Crapdot this week were directly or indirectly aimed at attacking Red Hat? First there was the "2500 bugs" report, that turned out to be less than 100 when all of the duplicates were tallied at Bugzilla, then we had our bastion of open source reporting list an aritcle on Cnet (the pinnacle of shoddy reporting in the PC world) that Red Hat claims to have started the open source movement, later these comments are put into context and Crapdot eats more crow, then we publish the useless blame deflection of the GCC steering committee last night, omitting that 4 members of said committee are Red Hat staffers and that said committee were surely aware of what was going on, and this morning we Red Hat users get lumped in with dumb ass Winblows script kids?
Way to fracture the community, you guys have turned into quite a group of assholes. I used to think that any distro that people used was good for Linux, but now (thanks to the continuously emerging agenda of Crapdot) I know that the only way I can find true Linux freedom is to use Debian, the only true geek purity test. I don't always agree with every decision that Red Hat makes, and I like a variety of distros, but I type this post from a perfectly stable Red Hat 7 machine, and this leads me to believe that there are more than a few hidden agendas at Crapdot. Again, thanks for trying to marginalize the community, we certainly wouldn't want to stay as a unified large group to drive our mutual goals forward.
Yes, that original post wasn't put there to inflame someone at Red Hat, and they should just take shit with a smile! Come on, anyone who approaches any support person with a close that threatens to go to another distro is just excessive, reminds me of all the point-and-clickers who whine that they will stop using Linux if they don't make it more like Windows.
You are correct, and it looks like 40+ of those 254 are Anaconda failures on custom install, same damn bug that is listed as fixed. I can't believe how much whining this distro has brought, when hardly anyone has it in their hands yet. I am setting up 2 test boxes tommorow, and if all looks well I will upgrade my home machine. Honestly, who rolls a new release into production without a test bed?
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Considering how painful it is to do some things in Linux and how overpriced Macs are, I'd say it will be quite a while.
great! I tire of paying higher prices so the hacker community can prove how "insecure" everything is. They were stealing, now they aren't, bravo Hughes!!!
Buy.com via Nutscrape 4.xx since they switched to an MS backend? The pages render for shit, this is just the beggining, Windows machines will need both browsers to truly navigate, and Linux (and any other OS for that matter) will just suffer. Man I hate MS.
If it takes you 2 hours to find a waypoint you are a dumb ass=)
Of course you got bored, how can anyone stay interested in a game that the "fan community" over hyped so much that I waited until just recently to even bother playing the game. The whole idea of joining a clan when the game hadn't even been released was just plain silly, and that same vocal crowd caused a lot of stupid stuff to make it into the game (the whole Diablo II suggestion forum at the Blizzard web site became worthless after the fanboys got organized on a few points). I was a big fan a the original Diablo, and while I think Diablo II is a nice evolution, the pre release hype and the crazed fanboys (many of whom admitted to never playing the first Diablo, but they were sure they would love Diablo II) beat down the developers who originally had better ideas about how to handle PKs and potential for hacking. The sound is excellent, the gameplay fairly balanced, and the graphics about the best you could do without making the minimum machine specs too high for many casual gamers (i.e. requiring a 3D card). The whole Dialbo II prerelease hype is a great example of how the fan community can screw up a good thing, I see most of the clans are already dead and forgotten, and the PKs and hacks are already at it again. Too bad, since the fanboys were so insistant that PKing was part of the game and more realistic (like a game where I kill Satan with my magic axe is based in reality???), the hacks have found exploits and now PKing IS the game. Same story as Diablo I, now I have to play password protected games with friends or live with single player, can't just jump into a public game like Quake and be sure I am not going to get screwed by a cheating PK. Bahhhh!!! I think I will boot off a floppy and play some Ultima Underworld, fanboys suck!!!
My custom compiled Red Hat 7 is overall slower than Win 98 on my K6-2/500 with 192 megs RAM. In fact, Linux is slower on my PIII/667 +128 I am sitting at right now, so although IE loading as part of the UI does slow boot up, I think Win98 is generally faster. We have half a dozen Linux boxes in our office, and all are slower than comparably equipped Windows boxes. Linux is only faster with no windowing environment loaded, all of the desktop options are slow and bloated.
If this were true then wouldn't the last 2 years of development brought us a better browser. Moz is a poor browser and still crashes far to often, Netscape should hang it up but won't, and although I do hate M$, IE is still the best browser. Flame on!
Got your attention, I have read a good number of these post and it seems almost everyone has read the article, worthless piece of trash that it is. I don't have a problem with Katz, but I do take issue with pop psychology presented as fact. Are you sure you arent' just a mindless, biased Katz hypocrite?
a little suspect, like this chunk... "Gaming has exploded in the past few years until, according to Steven Poole's book Trigger Happy, videogame sales now equal movie ticket receipts. Sales of game consoles and software in the United States will top $17 billion a year by 2003 (the music industry, by comparison, reported revenues of $15 billion last year)." While gaming might be approaching these forms of entertainment in gross dollars, it's not a fair comparison when the average movie ticket is $7 and a CD $13 when most games are $49.99. Then the whole pretense that anyone is "learning" life lessons from games is just some more new age psychology that doesn't was with anyone who isn't a shut-in or writing a cheesey treatment on video game psychology. I have learned better hand-eye coordination and abstract problem solving with gaming (and have lots of fun), but I have yet to find a life lesson? Maybe I have played the wrong games? I have been an avid console and PC Gamer since the days of the Atari 2600 and bought a 486 so I could play Wing Commander, I have owned almost every generation of console and spent way too much on video and sound cards to play the latest and greatest, but the vast majority of recent games just suck. If I picked up any life lesson from gaming it's "marketing departments suck ass". I can't find enough compelling content for my gaming dollars, although at least Sega is taking some interesting chances on the Dreamcast (Jet Grind Radio is the shit, Baby!). While there is no question that gaming is growing, there are still a lot of people just buying sports games, franchise titles, and just plain dreck from the bargain bin. Where is the life lesson there? What's the life lesson in DOOM, don't step in toxic waste and always look for secret doors? What's the life lesson in Tomb Raider, don't climb mountains in a tank top and shorts? What a bunch of crap!
Yes I have, and while it is a step in the right direction it has a long way to go. I love Linux, but I tire of these stupid wars. All this in fighting over desktop environment and I still can't get a decent email client.
both Gnome and KDE suck ass as a desktop environment. Any GUI that makes it easier to use the command line than it's file manager just blows. And of course Red Hat must be part of the evil.
Did you list reliability and functionality in the same post as Nutscrape? Do you work around a lot of chemical fumes? Live near a nuclear reactor? Just kidding, but do you really think the Netscape is more reliable? I wish I had back all the time I have wasted killing Nutscrape zombies.
Okay, Mozilla sucks ass. While it has gotten a lot better latley, it still crashes way too much. It dies on a number of ASP (I know I shouldn't surf anywhere that serves pages on IIS, but I can't avoid it) based site, and hangs at places like Buy.com, Maximumlinux.com forums, at ATI's web site when their java based navigation system tries to load, and a host of others. The email client is still unstable, and appears to have inherited the stupid address book bug from the previous versions of Netscape. So I am stuck with Nutscrape on Linux or booting a Winodws machine to browse the web. I spent the last 6 months using nothing but Linux, and while I am quite happy with all of the stability and power I have under Linux, the web browsing experience sucks. Plug in set up is a horror story, stability is the one thing completely lacking in Nutscrape, and the KDE2 browser actually manages to have uglier fonts than Netscape? How am I supposed to push Linux to the desktop on my network when I can't even find a decent browser? I can't tell my boss to back of on his Internet strategy while open source tries to build a decent looking or stable browser? Face reality, Mozilla/Nutscrape open source is a failure, it's way too late and still sucks. I don't like it, but IE is simply a better browser. I await your flames, rants, and taunts with much anticipation since I must be an idiot for not liking an open source project. The open source/Linux community hasn't produced a decent browser yet, and now they are set to do the same job on Star Office. At least I have 30 different text editors to choose from.
I see your point, and in the case of many apps I can see this as relevant. But when a desktop environment is started strictly to spite another, it's a waste of effort. I have no problem with variety and choice, in fact I do believe it's one of the greatest strengths of Linux. But the desktop sucks (I type this from within KDE 2) and maybe if we focussed all of the energy on building 1 environment we could come up with one that would truly best the Windows environment. The whole "scratching the itch" argument holds little water, the only thing that scratches alot of I.T. pros itch is $$$. Just my opinion.
good points. And one paticularly sad point, that so many people here debated whether this was real? So much for the astute geeks of slashdot. The whole thing was brilliant and spot on. I have spent the last 6 months working exclusively in Linux, but last night at my wife's request I set up one of our machines with Windows 98. The bottom line, while flawed and not as stable as it should be, Windows is a lot closer to an ideal desktop OS than Linux is at the moment. KDE2 is a step in the right direction, but there is a long way to go. I have established a number of Linux boxes on my floor at work, and when used on the limited fashion that my data entry people apply the desktop is funcitional, but I can't even start to approach pushing it on more advanced users. And don't throw around Gnome/HelixCode, when the simple act of copying a file forces 2 dialog boxes to pop, it just sucks. And please don't reply that I should do something about it, I am not a programmer, but the points regarding wasted energy concerning desktop development are more than correct. And while I do like much of what Raymond has to say, both his and Stallman's posturing will do much harm to the cause as a whole. I actually work hard to keep rants from Stallman from my boss, a few lines of Stallman rhetoric will have Linux off of my network for good. And while the 2.4 kernel is quite exciting, it wasn't until I popped Windows on a machine last night that I recalled why I bought a Sound Blaster Live in the first place. Or how easy 3D card set up can be. I love Linux, and I am more than aware of Windows many shortcomings (and I will be glad to jump on the MS bashing bandwagon when they deserve it), but Linux is still suffering from many of the shortcomings it has had from inception, and it doesn't look like they will be fixed soon. I have found myself caught up in the same thing the author mentions, using Windows shortcomings to justify a need for Linux, but the truth is that I can't whole heartedly recomend Linux across the board because we still haven't addressed some of it's most fundamental flaws. Oh well, I await your brilliant retorts with fire extinguisher in hand.
bother submitting dumb crap from Cnet? Haven't they repeatedly proven they have the journalistic skills of mold?
before it was slashdotted, there's are rarity. After playing with the 1.93 RPMs from the Red Hat 7 previews, I am pretty excited. Although I did think it ate a little too much memory? But no worse than Helix Code.
I wouldn't call it a reigious belief, but more of a question as to why Red Hat gets relegated to the script kiddies, when it has the same vulnerabilities that any distro has. What decent admin would put a box out that is available to the whole of the net without doing some serious lock down on assorted services. Wait, I take that back, I share an office with a supposed sys admin who brags that he runs "out of the box" installs that have never been cracked. But seriously, although every .0 release has some growing pains, I like the fact they push new technology and find their products to be pretty solid, so where did this script kiddie stuff really come from? From my experience Red Hat addresses their problems quickly and makes every effort to work with and support the goals of the community while attempting to show that there is some profit to be derived from OSS projects. Am I really a Red Hat loyalist? No, I would switch distros tommorow if someone came up with something I liked better, and I may very well switch when the distros with 2.4 start hitting. But I am also pushing Linux on to my corporate desktops, and one of the main reasons I can even consider this is because the suits have heard of Red Hat and read about their support and partnering efforts. Think I could walk into a meeting and push Debian because it is "more pure" than Red Hat? Sorry, I like my job. Maybe I have missed it, but it strikes me that stuff like Corel and Mandrake do our community a greater disservice than Red Hat ever has? And I am not really slamming either distro, I don't care for them but I also firmly believe that any distro that gets someone to try Linux is worth supporting. Oh well, opinions vary. And the bias is obvious, it's just easier for some to right it off as fanatacism.
everyone bash it!!! Red Hat could donate all of their equipment and facilities to the FSF, donate all of their coders to Debian, and hand out free copies of their OS at the airport, and still someone here would have to complain Red Hat is evil. Strange things are afoot at the peoples republic of slashdot? Could it be anti-RedHat bias from our parent sponsor? Noooo, this is an unbiased web site. I read almost every other day here how Red Hat sucks, maybe one day one of my Red Hat machines will crash so I can join in on the bashing? I patiently await your downward moderation=P
This is a really funny post, I have to assume you were shooting for humor here, since anyone who has had a look at KDE 2 knows your statements aren't based in any sense or reality. KDE2 looks to stomp gnome back into footprints!
And I would have to say that 7 has strived to be both more secure for newbies, and include new features to drive things forward. What else should they do, using Linux requires some know how.
Becaue I dared to disagree with the braintrust at Slackdot.com! There isn't a bit of this post that isn't rooted in the truth, but the loyalist don't want to hear it. Red Hat bashing is fashionable, but pointless. Too bad the community continues to fracture based on lousy journalism (using the term loosely) at place like Cnet and Slashdot (now in the same category in my book). Hurry up and moderate this down, we wouldn't want a casual reader to see the recent track record on Red Hat misreporting.
the brain trust at Slashdot found another reason to bash not only Red Hat, but Red Hat users. Let's see, how many reports on Crapdot this week were directly or indirectly aimed at attacking Red Hat? First there was the "2500 bugs" report, that turned out to be less than 100 when all of the duplicates were tallied at Bugzilla, then we had our bastion of open source reporting list an aritcle on Cnet (the pinnacle of shoddy reporting in the PC world) that Red Hat claims to have started the open source movement, later these comments are put into context and Crapdot eats more crow, then we publish the useless blame deflection of the GCC steering committee last night, omitting that 4 members of said committee are Red Hat staffers and that said committee were surely aware of what was going on, and this morning we Red Hat users get lumped in with dumb ass Winblows script kids? Way to fracture the community, you guys have turned into quite a group of assholes. I used to think that any distro that people used was good for Linux, but now (thanks to the continuously emerging agenda of Crapdot) I know that the only way I can find true Linux freedom is to use Debian, the only true geek purity test. I don't always agree with every decision that Red Hat makes, and I like a variety of distros, but I type this post from a perfectly stable Red Hat 7 machine, and this leads me to believe that there are more than a few hidden agendas at Crapdot. Again, thanks for trying to marginalize the community, we certainly wouldn't want to stay as a unified large group to drive our mutual goals forward.
Yes, that original post wasn't put there to inflame someone at Red Hat, and they should just take shit with a smile! Come on, anyone who approaches any support person with a close that threatens to go to another distro is just excessive, reminds me of all the point-and-clickers who whine that they will stop using Linux if they don't make it more like Windows.
You are correct, and it looks like 40+ of those 254 are Anaconda failures on custom install, same damn bug that is listed as fixed. I can't believe how much whining this distro has brought, when hardly anyone has it in their hands yet. I am setting up 2 test boxes tommorow, and if all looks well I will upgrade my home machine. Honestly, who rolls a new release into production without a test bed?