..make sure that you have read this Discusses some serious considerations before deciding to use ipsec and ike. And since ipsec/ike is the only serious solution in many cases, these concerns should not be taken lightly. For example did you know that the ike implementation in 2000/XP simply checks the signer of the servers certificate and not the actual identity that is signed? This means that any other user with a certificate which is signed by the same authority as you can impersonate the server.
The article is very lengthy, I know, but definitely worth your time.
It seems that one of Sun's goals is to enter the desktop market as a serious player.Check out project looking glass. They mention translucent windows and 3D windowing capabilities in the whitepapers. They sure are exploring an interesting possibility there.
Can the usability of the desktop be enhanced using a 3D window space paradigm instead of a 2D???
Dunno if the numbers are accurate, but I would be very much interested to also know the standard deviation for each of these figures. IMHO, for Greece the dispersion must be HUGE, while in America or Canada I believe it must be close to Gaussian.
Greece is the second most expensive country in the EU. I had a cup of tea this afternoon with my friends in downtown Athens and I had to pay fscking 3.5Euros for a fscking cup of fscking tea!!!
I 've been trying to find and buy the pvr250 for about two months (I live in Greece). My plans were simple:install the card and make a mythTV video recorder using my pc. But it seems that the local representative of Haupage here was not interested in selling any units so after a dozen phone calls to various stores (they kept telling me that there weren't any units available) I decided to just drop it, and went and bought a philips dvdr70. It may be more expensive than the pvr250/350 but:
1)The price is roughly the same with the sum of the prices of a decent dvdr (~200Euros) for the pc and the haupage (~200Euros). 2)If I was going to use the pc as a pvr, I would probably have to buy a small UPS too. Dunno about other countries but here in Greece, leaving the pc open always is a recipe for disaster. Add about ~120Euros minimum for that too. 3)I believe a standalove product is more usable than a pc based pvr. In the later case I would be the only one in my family really able to use it. 4)The standalone writer is really plug and play. Hell, it even learned the channels from my tv, so I did not have to do anything besides plugging it to the outlet and the tv set.
Of course the pvr based solution probably offers more capabilities so someone may have no choice than to use it.
Microsoft has previously said that it would attempt to make its patching process more intuitive and easy to use. It moved to a fixed schedule of monthly patches to make the process more predictable for network and system administrators.
Though this may be ok for systems like solaris, IMHO this would be a wrong move. If you are gonna wait until next month to patch your systems there will be many more worm outbrakes like those we've seen last summer.
The difference is that most windows systems are being used by mom'n'pop, and they tend to think that their computer is like an ultra smart typewriter. They know how to type their word documents but they wouldn't know system administration even if it kicked them in the back.
Windows needs an *automated* procedure for patching and patches that arrive on time, *not* when it's too late.
From what I saw in the article, PacMan runs at almost full screen in the Ericsson P800. If I remember correctly, the nokia engage,3650,7250 and the newest 6600 (first midp 2.0 phone) have a smaller screen res. Has anyone tested it yet? Would the smaller res be a problem?
I 've been contemplated buying an 6600 for almost a month since it came out but the rather high price (500 Euros) kept me from doing so. Having MAME available and usable would really be something else...
Um...actualy yes, but not for that reason. According to cisco recommendations for ipv6 access services, it is suggested that a/48 subnet is given to each access server. The access server can then proceed to assign a/64 subnet to each ppp client (modem,ISDN,adsl you name it) that connects. The IPCP phase of the ppp will be abolished hence the address,prefix,default route and mtu assignment in the link will be done through address autoconfiguration which is the default method in ipv6. One good thing is that the access server will actually be able to remember the subnet you were given last time, so your address will be mostly the same for large periods of time. Also you won't have to use nat (unless a/64 prefix is not enough for you!!!) as you can use any number of machines you like behind the connection. Oh, one last thing, your ethernet network card may have only 48 bits address, but the 48 bit address is converted to a 64 bit address which is called EUI-64 address. This is done to include in the EUI-64 space all kinds of link technologies, not only ethernet but also token ring etc
Solaris does have a few areas where they have done a fantastic job. Sun also has the edge regarding documentation, IMHO. Besides docs.sun.com (which is an excellent piece of information) the man pages seem to be more complete in certain areas. I wouldn't go as far as to get bitter about many great gnu/linux apps which totaly miss even the modest form of documentation, but there is a distinct difference.
we should focus on what is wrong in our platform, and focus on what is good in their platform Funny. Would you please care to define "we" in contrast to "their". Or do you mean "we" as in gnu/linux, in contrast to "their" as in solaris. Some people, including me, believe that there are more common points between the gnu/linux movement and solaris in general. Namely: 1)Sun has donated the NFS. Everybody including gnu/linux uses it nowadays 2)Everybody uses mozilla right? Sun has donated heavily on mozilla. How about that. 3)Openoffice. Largely thanks to Sun, we are able to write documents,presentations etc in a product comparable to MSOffice that can run on GNU/linux. 4)GNOME. I bet a lot of gnu/linux users use gnome. Guess what! Sun has donated large sums to gnome too! If fact they are phasing out CDE in favor of gnome. 5) Sun is probably one of the few companies that does not lock you in her hardware/software/OS. They remain largely a traditional unix OS and that's why many many people are able jump from one to the other instantly.
I could go on but you get the idea. If some of the/. crown regard Sun as the enemy, fine. But I do not think that Sun regards GNU/linux as its enemy. Or at least even if they do regard it as enemy, they haven't done anything serious yet. Compared to other firms (you know who) they have practicaly endorsed it.
Solaris/Inetl remains still a viable solution for many tasks IMHO. The fact alone that almost 95% of open sourced applications can be compiled and used under it makes it a vary viable choice. A normal GNU environment including gcc,gdb and other tools is available for solaris intel. So why would the gnu/linux community regard solaris and sun as its enemy? I for one, use solaris at work and gnu/linux at home and you know what? I am happy that they are more like than unlike so that I have choice to use whichever I need to. Plus, when multi-core CPU's hit the market, solaris might have an edge depending on Sun's expertice in the area of multiprocessor systems.
Now if Sun could release the source of the solaris kernel, a new GNU OS could be build, something like GNU/solaris. Oh well, I can go back to sleep now.
Best post for tonight. May I add that Sun's documentation is excellent. Both the man pages and the online docs are very precise and complete. Don't get me wrong, I am a big gnu/linux advovate, but very often I get lost with outdated howto's, incomplete man pages and the like.
Does anyone know whether this release supports alpha transparency in the png's correctly? I have tried the Xfce bundled with mandrake 9.1 (ok, I know it's old) and it doesn't. That's why I returned to Windowmanager which seems to display all png's perfectly.
I believe that Apple has managed to steer clear from that trap. I mean, yes the new G5's are probably the fastest machines for desktop use, but there are other much more (IMHO) qualities that other systems lack. First a superior user interface that everyone tries to mimic. Second, a modern OS based on freebsd which alows them to tap into the vast resource of open source projects without sacrificing their ability to make profit from their products. All in all, Macs are more usefull AND beatiful. I would buy an apple in a cold second instead of a peecee but -alas- their prices here in Greece are ridiculus.
Recently I was studying an old book about Solaris administration (circa 1997) and behind the front page it said clearly that they (Sun) have a non-exclusive license to use the GUI that Xerox developed. Are you sure that MS or Apple haven't paid to use the technology?
Yeah, I agree with you and so does Sun, I think. And that's because especially large data centers,companies etc see past the MHz and stuff and concentrate on getting the job done, as you correctly point out.
From the article: That's the big change that's going on here. The (computer) world is moving from building your own components like a Linux blade or Sparc server or NetApps storage device, to finding the system complete, which is where we're focused and where we're spending R&D dollars.
While a few other posters have argued that building a system ad hoc can be advantageus, nobody can really deny the fact that many functions performed by computers today will be performed by commodity hardware tommorow. For example, you can play a dvd using your pc, but I find it much easier to just plug the disk into the dvd player and watch it on tv. Another example is PDA's, watches, cel phones etc. As these machines grow smarter, they will eventualy need a more serious operating system of some sort. But on the other hand I wouldn't like to spend all of my time trying to administer these machines. I like my cell phone to do what it does whithout me having to worry much about it staying functional. And I don't care if your phone has more megahertz's and memory than mine, as long as I can make my phonecalls and store my numbers easily. It is not a question of technical superiority any more. The same (IMHO always) will happen someday to servers, networking equipement, storage devices. At least a smaller amount of care will be required to maintain the machine in a stable state. This is why I believe Sun has a point. If they can produce trustworthy equipement which does its job while causing as little trouble as possible installing and maintaining it, I think they may gain an edge.
From what I've read in their sitethe prius consumes only a fraction of the amount of fuel a normal car would need to cover the same distance. This is done by running the motor at optimal rates (I gather there is no transmission) and feed the electic motors. When you brake, the motor not only does the motor stop automaticaly, but your kinetic energy is being transformed back into electricity. So, even if it is more expensive than a normal car, you could get your money back out of fuel economy in 3-4 years depending on how much distance you cover every year.
Have a look at that (3rd time I post this link in/.)
Sorry guys, but Sun is a great company. They have supported open standards before anyone had a clue about it and they have already given a lot to the community. Java gains groud where microsoft still tries to enter the market (mobile phones etc), solaris is a mature product (solaris 10 is being used/tested inside sun for almost a year) and their hardware may soon fill the performance gap. I do not see why it may be too late for them.
Another question: Washington state is roughly twice as large as Hungary. How many Europeans know the difference between Washington DC and Washington state and can point the latter on the map?
Hint: Most people I know presume Washington state is somewhere in the...east coast!!!
the implementation of the UltraSPARC III is rather poor
Could you explain this a little more? Really, I am not pretending to be a CPU expert here, but I was under the impression that the Ultrasparc-IIIi is a valid opponent to the intel CPU's because of its considerable throughtput.Ok maybe it does not have the horsepower of a 3 GHz pentium but in terms of overall performance (I/O AND computations) they are comparable. I do not see why a 10 year old mature 64 bit CPU architecture can be that worse compared to the IA64 which seems to be a it's very beggining. I would argue that surely an UltraSparc cannot emulate a Pentium very well (because it lacks the MHz's) but that does not constitute a proof that the implementation is poor.
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..make sure that you have read this
Discusses some serious considerations before deciding to use ipsec and ike. And since ipsec/ike is the only serious solution in many cases, these concerns should not be taken lightly. For example did you know that the ike implementation in 2000/XP simply checks the signer of the servers certificate and not the actual identity that is signed? This means that any other user with a certificate which is signed by the same authority as you can impersonate the server.
The article is very lengthy, I know, but definitely worth your time.
It seems that one of Sun's goals is to enter the desktop market as a serious player.Check out project looking glass. They mention translucent windows and 3D windowing capabilities in the whitepapers. They sure are exploring an interesting possibility there.
Can the usability of the desktop be enhanced using a 3D window space paradigm instead of a 2D???
I think yes.
You probably want to buy the dvdr80 as it is more feature rich than the 70.
FYI:
USA purchasing power parity - $36,300
Greece purchasing power parity - $19,100
Canada purchasing power parity - $29,300
UK purchasing power parity - $25,500
Germany purchasing power parity - $26,200
Dunno if the numbers are accurate, but I would be very much interested to also know the standard deviation for each of these figures. IMHO, for Greece the dispersion must be HUGE, while in America or Canada I believe it must be close to Gaussian.
yeah, but the average salary in the US is probably around 3 times the average salary around here.
Alas it is not the EU...
Greece is the second most expensive country in the EU. I had a cup of tea this afternoon with my friends in downtown Athens and I had to pay fscking 3.5Euros for a fscking cup of fscking tea!!!
I 've been trying to find and buy the pvr250 for about two months (I live in Greece). My plans were simple:install the card and make a mythTV video recorder using my pc. But it seems that the local representative of Haupage here was not interested in selling any units so after a dozen phone calls to various stores (they kept telling me that there weren't any units available) I decided to just drop it, and went and bought a
philips dvdr70. It may be more expensive than the pvr250/350 but:
1)The price is roughly the same with the sum of the prices of a decent dvdr (~200Euros) for the pc and the haupage (~200Euros).
2)If I was going to use the pc as a pvr, I would probably have to buy a small UPS too. Dunno about other countries but here in Greece, leaving the pc open always is a recipe for disaster. Add about ~120Euros minimum for that too.
3)I believe a standalove product is more usable than a pc based pvr. In the later case I would be the only one in my family really able to use it.
4)The standalone writer is really plug and play. Hell, it even learned the channels from my tv, so I did not have to do anything besides plugging it to the outlet and the tv set.
Of course the pvr based solution probably offers more capabilities so someone may have no choice than to use it.
Microsoft has previously said that it would attempt to make its patching process more intuitive and easy to use. It moved to a fixed schedule of monthly patches to make the process more predictable for network and system administrators.
Though this may be ok for systems like solaris, IMHO this would be a wrong move. If you are gonna wait until next month to patch your systems there will be many more worm outbrakes like those we've seen last summer.
The difference is that most windows systems are being used by mom'n'pop, and they tend to think that their computer is like an ultra smart typewriter. They know how to type their word documents but they wouldn't know system administration even if it kicked them in the back.
Windows needs an *automated* procedure for patching and patches that arrive on time, *not* when it's too late.
From what I saw in the article, PacMan runs at almost full screen in the Ericsson P800. If I remember correctly, the nokia engage,3650,7250 and the newest 6600 (first midp 2.0 phone) have a smaller screen res. Has anyone tested it yet? Would the smaller res be a problem?
I 've been contemplated buying an 6600 for almost a month since it came out but the rather high price (500 Euros) kept me from doing so. Having MAME available and usable would really be something else...
Um...actualy yes, but not for that reason. According to cisco recommendations for ipv6 access services, it is suggested that a /48 subnet is given to each access server. The access server can then proceed to assign a /64 subnet to each ppp client (modem,ISDN,adsl you name it) that connects. The IPCP phase of the ppp will be abolished hence the address,prefix,default route and mtu assignment in the link will be done through address autoconfiguration which is the default method in ipv6. One good thing is that the access server will actually be able to remember the subnet you were given last time, so your address will be mostly the same for large periods of time. Also you won't have to use nat (unless a /64 prefix is not enough for you!!!) as you can use any number of machines you like behind the connection.
Oh, one last thing, your ethernet network card may have only 48 bits address, but the 48 bit address is converted to a 64 bit address which is called EUI-64 address. This is done to include in the EUI-64 space all kinds of link technologies, not only ethernet but also token ring etc
Solaris does have a few areas where they have done a fantastic job.
/. crown regard Sun as the enemy, fine. But I do not think that Sun regards GNU/linux as its enemy. Or at least even if they do regard it as enemy, they haven't done anything serious yet. Compared to other firms (you know who) they have practicaly endorsed it.
Sun also has the edge regarding documentation, IMHO. Besides docs.sun.com (which is an excellent piece of information) the man pages seem to be more complete in certain areas. I wouldn't go as far as to get bitter about many great gnu/linux apps which totaly miss even the modest form of documentation, but there is a distinct difference.
we should focus on what is wrong in our platform, and focus on what is good in their platform
Funny. Would you please care to define "we" in contrast to "their". Or do you mean "we" as in gnu/linux, in contrast to "their" as in solaris. Some people, including me, believe that there are more common points between the gnu/linux movement and solaris in general. Namely:
1)Sun has donated the NFS. Everybody including gnu/linux uses it nowadays
2)Everybody uses mozilla right? Sun has donated heavily on mozilla. How about that.
3)Openoffice. Largely thanks to Sun, we are able to write documents,presentations etc in a product comparable to MSOffice that can run on GNU/linux.
4)GNOME. I bet a lot of gnu/linux users use gnome. Guess what! Sun has donated large sums to gnome too! If fact they are phasing out CDE in favor of gnome.
5) Sun is probably one of the few companies that does not lock you in her hardware/software/OS. They
remain largely a traditional unix OS and that's why many many people are able jump from one to the other instantly.
I could go on but you get the idea. If some of the
Solaris/Inetl remains still a viable solution for many tasks IMHO. The fact alone that almost 95% of open sourced applications can be compiled and used under it makes it a vary viable choice. A normal GNU environment including gcc,gdb and other tools is available for solaris intel. So why would the gnu/linux community regard solaris and sun as its enemy? I for one, use solaris at work and gnu/linux at home and you know what? I am happy that they are more like than unlike so that I have choice to use whichever I need to. Plus, when multi-core CPU's hit the market, solaris might have an edge depending on Sun's expertice in the area of multiprocessor systems.
Now if Sun could release the source of the solaris kernel, a new GNU OS could be build, something like GNU/solaris. Oh well, I can go back to sleep now.
BEN: Yes, indeed. If it's a fast ship.
HAN: She's fast enough for you, old man.
Best post for tonight. May I add that Sun's documentation is excellent. Both the man pages and the online docs are very precise and complete. Don't get me wrong, I am a big gnu/linux advovate, but very often I get lost with outdated howto's, incomplete man pages and the like.
yeah not Windomanager, WinowMaker, should really use the preview button...
Does anyone know whether this release supports alpha transparency in the png's correctly? I have tried the Xfce bundled with mandrake 9.1 (ok, I know it's old) and it doesn't. That's why I returned to Windowmanager which seems to display all png's perfectly.
I believe that Apple has managed to steer clear from that trap. I mean, yes the new G5's are probably the fastest machines for desktop use, but there are other much more (IMHO) qualities that other systems lack. First a superior user interface that everyone tries to mimic. Second, a modern OS based on freebsd which alows them to tap into the vast resource of open source projects without sacrificing their ability to make profit from their products. All in all, Macs are more usefull AND beatiful. I would buy an apple in a cold second instead of a peecee but -alas- their prices here in Greece are ridiculus.
Recently I was studying an old book about Solaris administration (circa 1997) and behind the front page it said clearly that they (Sun) have a non-exclusive license to use the GUI that Xerox developed. Are you sure that MS or Apple haven't paid to use the technology?
Yeah, I agree with you and so does Sun, I think. And that's because especially large data centers,companies etc see past the MHz and stuff and concentrate on getting the job done, as you correctly point out.
From the article: That's the big change that's going on here. The (computer) world is moving from building your own components like a Linux blade or Sparc server or NetApps storage device, to finding the system complete, which is where we're focused and where we're spending R&D dollars.
While a few other posters have argued that building a system ad hoc can be advantageus, nobody can really deny the fact that many functions performed by computers today will be performed by commodity hardware tommorow. For example, you can play a dvd using your pc, but I find it much easier to just plug the disk into the dvd player and watch it on tv. Another example is PDA's, watches, cel phones etc. As these machines grow smarter, they will eventualy need a more serious operating system of some sort. But on the other hand I wouldn't like to spend all of my time trying to administer these machines. I like my cell phone to do what it does whithout me having to worry much about it staying functional. And I don't care if your phone has more megahertz's and memory than mine, as long as I can make my phonecalls and store my numbers easily. It is not a question of technical superiority any more.
The same (IMHO always) will happen someday to servers, networking equipement, storage devices. At least a smaller amount of care will be required to maintain the machine in a stable state. This is why I believe Sun has a point. If they can produce trustworthy equipement which does its job while causing as little trouble as possible installing and maintaining it, I think they may gain an edge.
From what I've read in their sitethe prius consumes only a fraction of the amount of fuel a normal car would need to cover the same distance. This is done by running the motor at optimal rates (I gather there is no transmission) and feed the electic motors. When you brake, the motor not only does the motor stop automaticaly, but your kinetic energy is being transformed back into electricity.
So, even if it is more expensive than a normal car, you could get your money back out of fuel economy in 3-4 years depending on how much distance you cover every year.
Have a look at that (3rd time I post this link in /.)
Sorry guys, but Sun is a great company. They have supported open standards before anyone had a clue about it and they have already given a lot to the community. Java gains groud where microsoft still tries to enter the market (mobile phones etc), solaris is a mature product (solaris 10 is being used/tested inside sun for almost a year) and their hardware may soon fill the performance gap.
I do not see why it may be too late for them.
You can easily find the ISO's on eMule. And, unlike the RIAA, Sun won't ever sue you for doing this.
Another question: Washington state is roughly twice as large as Hungary. How many Europeans know the difference between Washington DC and Washington state and can point the latter on the map?
...east coast!!!
Hint: Most people I know presume Washington state is somewhere in the
Well said dude. Where are my mod points when I need them!
the implementation of the UltraSPARC III is rather poor
Could you explain this a little more? Really, I am not pretending to be a CPU expert here, but I was under the impression that the Ultrasparc-IIIi is a valid opponent to the intel CPU's because of its considerable throughtput.Ok maybe it does not have the horsepower of a 3 GHz pentium but in terms of overall performance (I/O AND computations) they are comparable. I do not see why a 10 year old mature 64 bit CPU architecture can be that worse compared to the IA64 which seems to be a it's very beggining. I would argue that surely an UltraSparc cannot emulate a Pentium very well (because it lacks the MHz's) but that does not constitute a proof that the implementation is poor.