"You are such a fucking idiot. Pai was presented to him as a required Republican appointment, Obama had zero say in the matter."
False. He had to make a nomination, he could have nominated someone else for the Republican appointment. Not that I'm trying to make more of it than it was, he had to pick a Republican and asked Mitch McConnell who they wanted.
"And who promoted Pai?"
Trump did but it isn't like he handpicked Pai. He was elected under a republican ticket, had to appoint a chairman, and Pai had the Republican chair. It's unlikely Trump had ever heard of him, if he was smart he negotiated something from the Republicans for it since Trump isn't really a Republican and never was.
In truth, whatever they rubber stamped to put Ajit Pai where he is neither Trump nor Obama are the real reason for it. If anything it is the people who hold Mitch McConnell's strings who bought that appointment.
According to opensecrets.org in 2018:
Communications/Electronics $853,918 Lawyers & Lobbyists $1,625,946 Misc Business $2,100,106 Other $1,510,654
The generic categories can hide just about anything but that include money for "speaking engagements" and backend deals and agreements.
"If it was the former, and it figured out all of that itself?"
That would make for another level of interesting in their result but it wouldn't change that the machine simply out-clicked rather than out-strategized the human players. You have to slow the machine down to a human rate of interaction so that the human can formulate and apply strategy for that. Doing otherwise is not only cheating those players, it is also cheating the bot of the opportunity to learn from that strategy.
Pretty much yeah. Really it's more that the way these games work there is a disparity in speed which strategy can't overcome. Especially between sufficiently strong players who are going to employ solid strategy.
The bots do not need to be set up to cheat over and over again in these contests. There is nothing that says AlphaXXXX sux0rs if it doesn't beat everybody everywhere the first time around. What it does well is still impressive without claiming it is the new champion of the world and while it gains the bigger headline to claim it, it gains a lot of headlines over time to show the actual progress in fair competition.
"In my analogy, Stockfish is the horse. And AlphaZero is an early model steam car. People complain because the horse didn't get the best food, and it wasn't the world's fastest horse, and it was too hot outside, and the horse didn't get proper rest.
What they are missing is that the early car is still at the beginning of the development curve, while the horse is already at its peak."
And that is a useful experiment how? You still use a rested racing horse that has been properly fed and benchmark how much you've shaved off the loss over time. You don't have the jockey ride the horse near to death before and then claim your steam car kicks the shit out of champion horses when it wins.
When those parties are machines and on a neutral playing field and they are technical requirements, yes.
If you are trying to establish that your gasoline based vehicle outperforms the diesel model it isn't exactly fair to refuse to allow diesel fuel in the race. It also isn't fair to exclude the types of optimizations that work better for diesel than gasoline.
The entire point of AlphaZero is to not need the databases. The whole point is for it to beat the classical chessbot with its artificial intelligence.
If you don't set up the chessbot as it is normally run you haven't beaten the chessbot. If you give AlphaZero tables you've also defeated the point of the experiment, the idea isn't that AlphaZero is the better chessbot, the idea is that AlphaZero's intelligence is such that it can even beat a chessbot.
It's like setting the difficulty to "Dumb Noob" on a game and claiming you beat it.
I very much doubt his brain or yours could compete with a single core 386. Sure it has some impressive stats on massively parallel micro-ops but the single threaded performance sucks.
No it isn't nitpicking, stockfish is designed to have those databases whereas AlphaZero is not. You haven't beaten it if you haven't beaten it as intended to run.
"Why the hell wouldn't you take highly skilled people with advanced degrees?"
For the most part these workers aren't being brought in for jobs that actually require a Masters or Ph.D. We don't want the most highly educated, we want the brightest and that is not the same thing.
"The average American isn't going to earn a Ph.D. and less than half of the population aged 25-29 has a bachelor's degree. "
Sounds like a great reason to make that possible without taking on tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt just to get a job any bright person could have done.
"The notion that if we just trained everyone that we'd be able to solve all of our problems is nonsense."
Sure. We could just stop laying off the existing workers. We lay off 80-100 thousand tech workers a year and now import 85,000 a year. This isn't rocket science.
Oh I don't know, there are no shortage of additives they blend in and spray on that tobacco. You are burning all that crap as well. Surely the ammonia isn't too good for you.
Yes, but it is much easier to quit smoking cigarettes. When you switch to vaping you trade one habit for another but I can promise you there are definitely other addictive elements in the cigarettes. I got to smoking them again when I got a lung infection and kept on smoking them for a few months. Back to vaping and it was hard. Not like quitting cold turkey was at a prior point but the first week was about the same.
I did this. I quit for better than 10 years, maybe 12. I'd even regularly stand out with the smokers on their breaks so I didn't miss the social aspect without issue. You never stop getting the urges entirely but they can be months or even years apart and easily dismissed. It's like there is this little voice in your head and it will whisper (mmm that sounds good) and you freak out because nothing about that sounds good and you have no idea where the thought came from.
That voice got me after during a round of partying with visiting bosses. After a couple years I discovered vaping. I wish I'd discovered vaping sooner, I doubt I'd have wanted the cigarette. Because the thing is I actually enjoy smoking. I always enjoyed smoking. It's soothing. Vaping with no nicotine brings that back and with better flavors. As it stands I vape with nicotine and better flavors.
"So far, it looks like yes, and a lot of people have been looking into it pretty intently."
Indeed. Given that the funding is largely behind finding dangers which carries a bias the results are even more promising.
The real risk is people who want to paint everything with a brush and say "this is safe" or "this is dangerous" we just need to keep adjusting to new data. Unfortunately most of the benefits are disappearing as e-cigs get added by ignorant people to public non-smoking policies.
The only thing out there which I find really disturbing in e-cigs is the use of ceramics both as wadding and heating elements. That can be dangerous and slow to show its head.
Usually. I am concerned about the ceramic blanket material used rather than cotton in many vapes, the cotton itself which always burns, and the ceramics being used for heating elements.
In particular the ceramic components are concerning because the fine particles you'll inhale as a consequence are cumulative.
"What isn't obvious is the new and unstudied conditions, disorders and diseases that vaping every 15 minutes will cost this newest generation."
Maybe, maybe not. Any restaurant, cup of coffee, or any number of other food and candy products puts much of the same things into the air. The flavorings weren't invented for e-cigs, they borrowed FDA approved food additives. You don't just eat food you know, you also heat it and breath the exhaust.
My concern with the coils is the ceramic materials being used and the particles those create. The effects of that kind of particulate is cumulative so it builds up over time in the lungs even at small doses.
"With some proper advancements in legislation and technology"
Seems unlikely, The government does a poor job of regulation so you'll have to pick one either the legislation advances along or the technology does but if the legislation advances it will almost certainly kill the advancement of the technology.
Nicotine has an addiction potential that is on par with those substances.
Caffeine and Nicotine are actually similar in that we use them at extremely low doses but they would outright kill you if you used them like meth, heroine, and cocaine.
Outside of Caffeine being extremely deadly it is actually quite similar to Cocaine and Meth. Neither cocaine or meth would approach the addiction potential or danger of caffeine if used in proportionally low doses and concentration. The danger with cocaine mostly came after it became restricted, smugglers started purifying it to extreme levels to make it more profitable and discovered that not only do relatively high doses not kill you but cocaine becomes more addictive both as you increase concentration and dosage.
Similarly back when meth was used as impure "speed" and snorted it wasn't really a problem outside of poor quality control in biker labs. It didn't become a real problem until it started being purified to high concentration and smoked. To the extent we've tested them the various uppers have a lot in common, both in terms of benefits and harm.
I'm not about to gamble with heroine just to test it but I doubt it is much different than other opiates at equivalent doses. If you've ever been in real pain you know the non-opiate medications have a minimal effect. I suspect an agenda is behind them beating placebo at all for reduction of pain beyond simple inflamation. Heroine was initially created to replace morphine for battlefield injuries so it was never really used in a low dose capacity. There are certainly stronger pain killers which have been made into "fake" lower strength pills such as Fentanyl. The issue there has again been quality control and safe handling, they mostly pass undetected replacements for mild pain killers like hydrocodone.
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"You are such a fucking idiot. Pai was presented to him as a required Republican appointment, Obama had zero say in the matter."
False. He had to make a nomination, he could have nominated someone else for the Republican appointment. Not that I'm trying to make more of it than it was, he had to pick a Republican and asked Mitch McConnell who they wanted.
"And who promoted Pai?"
Trump did but it isn't like he handpicked Pai. He was elected under a republican ticket, had to appoint a chairman, and Pai had the Republican chair. It's unlikely Trump had ever heard of him, if he was smart he negotiated something from the Republicans for it since Trump isn't really a Republican and never was.
In truth, whatever they rubber stamped to put Ajit Pai where he is neither Trump nor Obama are the real reason for it. If anything it is the people who hold Mitch McConnell's strings who bought that appointment.
According to opensecrets.org in 2018:
Communications/Electronics $853,918
Lawyers & Lobbyists $1,625,946
Misc Business $2,100,106
Other $1,510,654
The generic categories can hide just about anything but that include money for "speaking engagements" and backend deals and agreements.
"If it was the former, and it figured out all of that itself?"
That would make for another level of interesting in their result but it wouldn't change that the machine simply out-clicked rather than out-strategized the human players. You have to slow the machine down to a human rate of interaction so that the human can formulate and apply strategy for that. Doing otherwise is not only cheating those players, it is also cheating the bot of the opportunity to learn from that strategy.
Pretty much yeah. Really it's more that the way these games work there is a disparity in speed which strategy can't overcome. Especially between sufficiently strong players who are going to employ solid strategy.
So? Let it demonstrate them without cheating.
The bots do not need to be set up to cheat over and over again in these contests. There is nothing that says AlphaXXXX sux0rs if it doesn't beat everybody everywhere the first time around. What it does well is still impressive without claiming it is the new champion of the world and while it gains the bigger headline to claim it, it gains a lot of headlines over time to show the actual progress in fair competition.
"In my analogy, Stockfish is the horse. And AlphaZero is an early model steam car. People complain because the horse didn't get the best food, and it wasn't the world's fastest horse, and it was too hot outside, and the horse didn't get proper rest.
What they are missing is that the early car is still at the beginning of the development curve, while the horse is already at its peak."
And that is a useful experiment how? You still use a rested racing horse that has been properly fed and benchmark how much you've shaved off the loss over time. You don't have the jockey ride the horse near to death before and then claim your steam car kicks the shit out of champion horses when it wins.
When those parties are machines and on a neutral playing field and they are technical requirements, yes.
If you are trying to establish that your gasoline based vehicle outperforms the diesel model it isn't exactly fair to refuse to allow diesel fuel in the race. It also isn't fair to exclude the types of optimizations that work better for diesel than gasoline.
The entire point of AlphaZero is to not need the databases. The whole point is for it to beat the classical chessbot with its artificial intelligence.
If you don't set up the chessbot as it is normally run you haven't beaten the chessbot. If you give AlphaZero tables you've also defeated the point of the experiment, the idea isn't that AlphaZero is the better chessbot, the idea is that AlphaZero's intelligence is such that it can even beat a chessbot.
It's like setting the difficulty to "Dumb Noob" on a game and claiming you beat it.
I very much doubt his brain or yours could compete with a single core 386. Sure it has some impressive stats on massively parallel micro-ops but the single threaded performance sucks.
No it isn't nitpicking, stockfish is designed to have those databases whereas AlphaZero is not. You haven't beaten it if you haven't beaten it as intended to run.
That's of minimal help. If you have any experience with satellite internet you know how much it sucks. Latency is a bitch.
"Why the hell wouldn't you take highly skilled people with advanced degrees?"
For the most part these workers aren't being brought in for jobs that actually require a Masters or Ph.D. We don't want the most highly educated, we want the brightest and that is not the same thing.
"The average American isn't going to earn a Ph.D. and less than half of the population aged 25-29 has a bachelor's degree. "
Sounds like a great reason to make that possible without taking on tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt just to get a job any bright person could have done.
"The notion that if we just trained everyone that we'd be able to solve all of our problems is nonsense."
Sure. We could just stop laying off the existing workers. We lay off 80-100 thousand tech workers a year and now import 85,000 a year. This isn't rocket science.
Because they are importing 85,000 people a year to dillute and reduce salaries in the US. It's all about avoiding paying fair wages.
Corporations aren't good or evil they are simply greedy. This is in their best interests. It really is that simple.
Oh I don't know, there are no shortage of additives they blend in and spray on that tobacco. You are burning all that crap as well. Surely the ammonia isn't too good for you.
Vaping is not smoking there is no smoke inhalation involved.
No they don't give up their nicotine addiction but nicotine is not the only addictive thing in a cigarette.
The control group? Zero, every time.
Yes, but it is much easier to quit smoking cigarettes. When you switch to vaping you trade one habit for another but I can promise you there are definitely other addictive elements in the cigarettes. I got to smoking them again when I got a lung infection and kept on smoking them for a few months. Back to vaping and it was hard. Not like quitting cold turkey was at a prior point but the first week was about the same.
I did this. I quit for better than 10 years, maybe 12. I'd even regularly stand out with the smokers on their breaks so I didn't miss the social aspect without issue. You never stop getting the urges entirely but they can be months or even years apart and easily dismissed. It's like there is this little voice in your head and it will whisper (mmm that sounds good) and you freak out because nothing about that sounds good and you have no idea where the thought came from.
That voice got me after during a round of partying with visiting bosses. After a couple years I discovered vaping. I wish I'd discovered vaping sooner, I doubt I'd have wanted the cigarette. Because the thing is I actually enjoy smoking. I always enjoyed smoking. It's soothing. Vaping with no nicotine brings that back and with better flavors. As it stands I vape with nicotine and better flavors.
That's cool just keep your food and hot beverages out of meetings since they put the same stuff in the air. It's your disgusting habit, not mine.
"So far, it looks like yes, and a lot of people have been looking into it pretty intently."
Indeed. Given that the funding is largely behind finding dangers which carries a bias the results are even more promising.
The real risk is people who want to paint everything with a brush and say "this is safe" or "this is dangerous" we just need to keep adjusting to new data. Unfortunately most of the benefits are disappearing as e-cigs get added by ignorant people to public non-smoking policies.
The only thing out there which I find really disturbing in e-cigs is the use of ceramics both as wadding and heating elements. That can be dangerous and slow to show its head.
Usually. I am concerned about the ceramic blanket material used rather than cotton in many vapes, the cotton itself which always burns, and the ceramics being used for heating elements.
In particular the ceramic components are concerning because the fine particles you'll inhale as a consequence are cumulative.
"What isn't obvious is the new and unstudied conditions, disorders and diseases that vaping every 15 minutes will cost this newest generation."
Maybe, maybe not. Any restaurant, cup of coffee, or any number of other food and candy products puts much of the same things into the air. The flavorings weren't invented for e-cigs, they borrowed FDA approved food additives. You don't just eat food you know, you also heat it and breath the exhaust.
My concern with the coils is the ceramic materials being used and the particles those create. The effects of that kind of particulate is cumulative so it builds up over time in the lungs even at small doses.
"With some proper advancements in legislation and technology"
Seems unlikely, The government does a poor job of regulation so you'll have to pick one either the legislation advances along or the technology does but if the legislation advances it will almost certainly kill the advancement of the technology.
Nicotine has an addiction potential that is on par with those substances.
Caffeine and Nicotine are actually similar in that we use them at extremely low doses but they would outright kill you if you used them like meth, heroine, and cocaine.
Outside of Caffeine being extremely deadly it is actually quite similar to Cocaine and Meth. Neither cocaine or meth would approach the addiction potential or danger of caffeine if used in proportionally low doses and concentration. The danger with cocaine mostly came after it became restricted, smugglers started purifying it to extreme levels to make it more profitable and discovered that not only do relatively high doses not kill you but cocaine becomes more addictive both as you increase concentration and dosage.
Similarly back when meth was used as impure "speed" and snorted it wasn't really a problem outside of poor quality control in biker labs. It didn't become a real problem until it started being purified to high concentration and smoked. To the extent we've tested them the various uppers have a lot in common, both in terms of benefits and harm.
I'm not about to gamble with heroine just to test it but I doubt it is much different than other opiates at equivalent doses. If you've ever been in real pain you know the non-opiate medications have a minimal effect. I suspect an agenda is behind them beating placebo at all for reduction of pain beyond simple inflamation. Heroine was initially created to replace morphine for battlefield injuries so it was never really used in a low dose capacity. There are certainly stronger pain killers which have been made into "fake" lower strength pills such as Fentanyl. The issue there has again been quality control and safe handling, they mostly pass undetected replacements for mild pain killers like hydrocodone.
Inaccurate. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/26/the-10-most-and-least-educated-cities-in-the-united-states.html
Also, the capital is not the entire state. It isn't even likely to be science degrees, aka real degrees.