Gotta disagree with you, all of my accidents have been at over 90mph, and all but one I walked away from.
The one I did not walk away from was because some moron ran me over as soon as I got up....
Each accident I was wearing full leathers, decent lid, gloves, boots.
One time I came off at over 150mph, and survived, the friction burns through the leathers being the worse part.
Re:Official Word: not a problem for the science.
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Cheating at Seti@home
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Well,
For the many people that are in it for the teams, and for the stats - and that is a huge number, if this is an official line, you might just as well tell them that you do not care.
I hope that this is not an official respopnse, although sadly it rings true to the attitude that we have seen for many years.
As for the science aspect, if you get 100 people all returning the same result in the same WU, and 2 others returning a different result, which do you beleive ?
Because the 99% complete and pass it on, will give you just that.
This forces a re-process.
A detailed look at the top 100 producers (daily), shows that somewhere between 3 and 6 million results look suspicious.
Even if you take 3 million (the lower), thats 3 million which need re processing.
You then need to look at the percentage of the total work that a relatively small number of users are producing, and you realise that there is a lot of very small time processors, which are outweighed by this minority.
so you have to consider that the chances of re-sending to a group of suspects is high.
So you need to re-process 3 million WU.
Thats 3Million X 8hrs ? Thats 24 mllion hours of extra processing ? a Million PC days ????
Frankly you have to fix the stats, you have to fix the checks, and you need to calm down the users....
These supporters will range from those who make a purchase from our website to others who may wish to make a major personal contribution to the project and take a lap with AI-Andi - at a speed of their choice!
I am not sure I would want to be a passenger in a (two seater) F1 car, with a real F1 driver, let alone a plastic one.
This is a scam/hoax/jinx.
How many billion calculations per second will it take to keep the thing on the road at racing speeds ? more than a beowulf cluster of P4's could muster I would bet !
Unix = Family of Operating Systems ?
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Is UNIX An OS?
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I lost count a long time ago at the number of different Unix's (Uniis) there are, or have been available.
I am sure that Unix now reperesents a family of operating systems, rather than a particular operating system. Sure the original AT&T stuff was called Unix, or was refered to as "A Unix", the unix name kinda stuck.
In contrast take MS-DOS, which is/was an operating system that evolved in a singular line (OK, flame me, I forgot PC-DOS, and all those others clones including A-DOS - Apricot DOS).
So I guess that Win3.0 was not an operating system, as the PC had to load an OS prior to loading the IU, is Windows NT an OS ?
Novell Netware is/was not an OS, it loaded on top of DOS too.
So, is Linux an OS in it's own right ? I am sure that it is, but Gnome/KDE/X are not OS's they are just UI's that require the base OS to boot first.
I think that this is really aimed at a smallish companies that cannot afford dedicated IT staff, and that is inept enough to be unable to run fsck and also inept enough to "pull the wrong plug" occasionally.
I am not sure that enterprise customer are really the aim. More the "sub enterprise" ones....
Nonetheless Whilst I aplaud the growth of such things, I think that there is a huge market out there for OS extensions that do much of the revision/version control work, and intelligent disaster recovery work on behalf of the (dumb) user that pull the wrong plug, or trashes the f/s...
Having grown up with many different OS's and their file-system issues - AS/400, ICL CSM, Unix, DOS, Windows etc. I have never once had a screwed file system that I have not been able to recover from quickly using the tools that the OS provides.
One demonstration that we used to do on a regular basis to show the power of our crash recovery in a Progress application was to pull the plug on a Xenix machine, mid transaction ! In hundreds of demos, the worst issue we had was a power-supply that started to make "odd" noises.
Now if you backup your system whenever you make changes, and you distribute your file systems over multiple platters, and ensure that the crash recovery processes are in place, you will be fine.
I welcome crash recovery tools, and even file-systems that do not shit theirselves if you "pull the wrong plug", but simple things like labels that say "Do not pull this plug", and UPS devices, even battery backed cache's on disk controllers, veritas file systems, RAID 10 mirrors etc all help, and negate the need to develop this kind of stuff.
FWIW my Linux boxes have never screwed their filesystems, they have many of the above precautions implimented, but even then, there are no issues.
Now if you want to invent a new filesystem, look at change control, look at saving OS files that have changed and easy go-backs, look at mirrors. Oh most of that can be done already.....
Similar thing, immagine RobotWars dumbed down a bit, with a bit of psuedo human interst thrown in, and a lot of build-up to a more timid event, then you are similar.
It is an acceptable substitute, when one cannot get the Beeb....
Typical "Americanization" of a good idea. If we (The Americans) did not think of it, lets change it so that it is almost unrecogniseable, then dumb it down so that the yanks can understand it. Then lets add mass appeal by telling you that twelve year old Timmy built his 465lb robot on his own - yeah right...
I posted as info to people that may want to do it, the realisties are different to the expectation.
I have now found that there are a number of ways of sorting the credit issue, get a car-loan, pay it, and you get credit offers daily. In the past year I have done this, and things are good.
I did had a credit card in the country I lived, but they could not transfer it. Had I thought about it I would have got an Amex I guess....
I live in California, and work for a large software company, currently on an L-1 visa.
My visa allows me to work for this company, and this company only. My wife is not allowed to work at all, she is allowed to accompany me, and live in the US with me. An H1-B gives you slightly more rights, but even then it is not that fantastic.
Should I decide that I do not want to work for this company, I have ten days to vacate the country. This would give an unscrupulous company the right to treat you like dirt...
The move here cost thousands of dollars, no sorry, tens of thousands of dollars, both to the company that I work for , and to us personally.
The major downside is that I have no credit history.
You want to get a car, try an APR in the teens, you want to insure it, how long have you held a US licence for ? OK, that will be six times the cost then.
You want a bank account, no overdraft facility for a year.
You want a credit card - you need to place a security deposit equal to the credit limit on it then.
No chance of unseccured credit for the next year or so.
I even had to re-take my driving tests.
You have little or no "status" in the country.
It was a huge personal sacrifice to come here, fortunatly I am treated very well by my employer, because they understand how committed we are to this. However it is not the land of milk and honey that many people living outside of the US feel that it may be.
The H1-B is only a small section of the difficulties in moving over here. I welcome this move, but will warn everyone that is contemplating it, that it will cost you thousands of dollars.
Oh do you want to add all of the hardware that support was dropped for in Win2000 vs WinNT ?
In our home "upgrade" we lost support for a whole pile of hardware that was in use in WinNT. All of this stuff was swopped with the Linux Box, and was fine over there.
MS does drop support for stuff, its not just Apple...
Infact I am not unhappy about the dopping of the hardware support, it would just be nice to be informed in advance of finding that the NIC does not work - AFTER you have spent an hour installing the new OS....
From an early age I have always taken things apart, but I have learnt my limits. I now do not mess with electronics on a board level, but I will disassemble everything that I can with the tools that I own. I recently inherited from a friend, a receiver which was intermitantly working, turned out to be a dusty power-switch...
I think that this is natural curiosity, and that people that do not pull things apart as soon as they get a chance have an underdeveloped sense of curiosity, and they are the oddballs.
NF
One of the issues that is being repeated in this thread is that there are many companies out there that have grabbed their domain name, and all similar ones (.com,net,co.uk,tw etc) just so that they all redirect to a common place.
That is fine, but when the name of the company is not unique in the world, they are going to tread on other companies toes, and the consumer (us) are going to suffer when trying to find a site based on what we assume its URL to be.
What happens when Billion dollar company meets small consulting company head on over a URL ? If the small company got there first I feel that this is a legitimate case for an "out of court settlement".
However in the of cyber-squatting, whereby an individual buys a URL prospectively, I think that there have been too many high-profile examples for the big companies to be playing dumb now. If you are a multi-billion dollar company with no web presence, that is your problem.
If I owned ford.com I would sell it to FoMoCo for the millions that it is probably worth to them to own.
If I reallyu wanted to get crazy I would just start looking up businesses in the yellows and start registering domains - oh AAAAAAAAAAATaxi.com is already taken huh ???
I think that you should not be forced to part with the domain that you have, assuming a few basic rules, but I have no idea what those rules should be, things like legitimate use of the URL, and a reasonable claim to the domain other than stumping up the $$$$'s.
Anyone ???
Slashdot Mirror
You should see them in the Summer !
Flip-flops, cargo shorts and wife beaters on R1's ????
Perhaps the device will not really become popular until they create the "wife beater" version ?
Gotta disagree with you, all of my accidents have been at over 90mph, and all but one I walked away from.
The one I did not walk away from was because some moron ran me over as soon as I got up....
Each accident I was wearing full leathers, decent lid, gloves, boots.
One time I came off at over 150mph, and survived, the friction burns through the leathers being the worse part.
Well,
For the many people that are in it for the teams, and for the stats - and that is a huge number, if this is an official line, you might just as well tell them that you do not care.
I hope that this is not an official respopnse, although sadly it rings true to the attitude that we have seen for many years.
As for the science aspect, if you get 100 people all returning the same result in the same WU, and 2 others returning a different result, which do you beleive ?
Because the 99% complete and pass it on, will give you just that.
This forces a re-process.
A detailed look at the top 100 producers (daily), shows that somewhere between 3 and 6 million results look suspicious.
Even if you take 3 million (the lower), thats 3 million which need re processing.
You then need to look at the percentage of the total work that a relatively small number of users are producing, and you realise that there is a lot of very small time processors, which are outweighed by this minority.
so you have to consider that the chances of re-sending to a group of suspects is high.
So you need to re-process 3 million WU.
Thats 3Million X 8hrs ? Thats 24 mllion hours of extra processing ? a Million PC days ????
Frankly you have to fix the stats, you have to fix the checks, and you need to calm down the users....
These supporters will range from those who make a purchase from our website to others who may wish to make a major personal contribution to the project and take a lap with AI-Andi - at a speed of their choice!
I am not sure I would want to be a passenger in a (two seater) F1 car, with a real F1 driver, let alone a plastic one.
This is a scam/hoax/jinx.
How many billion calculations per second will it take to keep the thing on the road at racing speeds ? more than a beowulf cluster of P4's could muster I would bet !
I lost count a long time ago at the number of different Unix's (Uniis) there are, or have been available.
I am sure that Unix now reperesents a family of operating systems, rather than a particular operating system. Sure the original AT&T stuff was called Unix, or was refered to as "A Unix", the unix name kinda stuck.
In contrast take MS-DOS, which is/was an operating system that evolved in a singular line (OK, flame me, I forgot PC-DOS, and all those others clones including A-DOS - Apricot DOS).
So I guess that Win3.0 was not an operating system, as the PC had to load an OS prior to loading the IU, is Windows NT an OS ?
Novell Netware is/was not an OS, it loaded on top of DOS too.
So, is Linux an OS in it's own right ? I am sure that it is, but Gnome/KDE/X are not OS's they are just UI's that require the base OS to boot first.
God I am confused about all of this.
I think that this is really aimed at a smallish companies that cannot afford dedicated IT staff, and that is inept enough to be unable to run fsck and also inept enough to "pull the wrong plug" occasionally.
I am not sure that enterprise customer are really the aim. More the "sub enterprise" ones....
Nonetheless Whilst I aplaud the growth of such things, I think that there is a huge market out there for OS extensions that do much of the revision/version control work, and intelligent disaster recovery work on behalf of the (dumb) user that pull the wrong plug, or trashes the f/s...
Having grown up with many different OS's and their file-system issues - AS/400, ICL CSM, Unix, DOS, Windows etc. I have never once had a screwed file system that I have not been able to recover from quickly using the tools that the OS provides.
One demonstration that we used to do on a regular basis to show the power of our crash recovery in a Progress application was to pull the plug on a Xenix machine, mid transaction ! In hundreds of demos, the worst issue we had was a power-supply that started to make "odd" noises.
Now if you backup your system whenever you make changes, and you distribute your file systems over multiple platters, and ensure that the crash recovery processes are in place, you will be fine.
I welcome crash recovery tools, and even file-systems that do not shit theirselves if you "pull the wrong plug", but simple things like labels that say "Do not pull this plug", and UPS devices, even battery backed cache's on disk controllers, veritas file systems, RAID 10 mirrors etc all help, and negate the need to develop this kind of stuff.
FWIW my Linux boxes have never screwed their filesystems, they have many of the above precautions implimented, but even then, there are no issues.
Now if you want to invent a new filesystem, look at change control, look at saving OS files that have changed and easy go-backs, look at mirrors. Oh most of that can be done already.....
./nf
Similar thing, immagine RobotWars dumbed down a bit, with a bit of psuedo human interst thrown in, and a lot of build-up to a more timid event, then you are similar.
It is an acceptable substitute, when one cannot get the Beeb....
Typical "Americanization" of a good idea. If we (The Americans) did not think of it, lets change it so that it is almost unrecogniseable, then dumb it down so that the yanks can understand it. Then lets add mass appeal by telling you that twelve year old Timmy built his 465lb robot on his own - yeah right...
./nf
I posted as info to people that may want to do it, the realisties are different to the expectation.
I have now found that there are a number of ways of sorting the credit issue, get a car-loan, pay it, and you get credit offers daily. In the past year I have done this, and things are good.
I did had a credit card in the country I lived, but they could not transfer it. Had I thought about it I would have got an Amex I guess....
Good advice though - Thanks
,.nf
I live in California, and work for a large software company, currently on an L-1 visa.
My visa allows me to work for this company, and this company only. My wife is not allowed to work at all, she is allowed to accompany me, and live in the US with me. An H1-B gives you slightly more rights, but even then it is not that fantastic.
Should I decide that I do not want to work for this company, I have ten days to vacate the country. This would give an unscrupulous company the right to treat you like dirt...
The move here cost thousands of dollars, no sorry, tens of thousands of dollars, both to the company that I work for , and to us personally.
The major downside is that I have no credit history.
You want to get a car, try an APR in the teens, you want to insure it, how long have you held a US licence for ? OK, that will be six times the cost then.
You want a bank account, no overdraft facility for a year.
You want a credit card - you need to place a security deposit equal to the credit limit on it then.
No chance of unseccured credit for the next year or so.
I even had to re-take my driving tests.
You have little or no "status" in the country.
It was a huge personal sacrifice to come here, fortunatly I am treated very well by my employer, because they understand how committed we are to this. However it is not the land of milk and honey that many people living outside of the US feel that it may be.
The H1-B is only a small section of the difficulties in moving over here. I welcome this move, but will warn everyone that is contemplating it, that it will cost you thousands of dollars.
Oh yes, I do love living here....
./nf
Oh do you want to add all of the hardware that support was dropped for in Win2000 vs WinNT ?
In our home "upgrade" we lost support for a whole pile of hardware that was in use in WinNT. All of this stuff was swopped with the Linux Box, and was fine over there.
MS does drop support for stuff, its not just Apple...
Infact I am not unhappy about the dopping of the hardware support, it would just be nice to be informed in advance of finding that the NIC does not work - AFTER you have spent an hour installing the new OS....
From an early age I have always taken things apart, but I have learnt my limits. I now do not mess with electronics on a board level, but I will disassemble everything that I can with the tools that I own. I recently inherited from a friend, a receiver which was intermitantly working, turned out to be a dusty power-switch ...
I think that this is natural curiosity, and that people that do not pull things apart as soon as they get a chance have an underdeveloped sense of curiosity, and they are the oddballs.
NF
One of the issues that is being repeated in this thread is that there are many companies out there that have grabbed their domain name, and all similar ones (.com,net,co.uk,tw etc) just so that they all redirect to a common place. That is fine, but when the name of the company is not unique in the world, they are going to tread on other companies toes, and the consumer (us) are going to suffer when trying to find a site based on what we assume its URL to be. What happens when Billion dollar company meets small consulting company head on over a URL ? If the small company got there first I feel that this is a legitimate case for an "out of court settlement". However in the of cyber-squatting, whereby an individual buys a URL prospectively, I think that there have been too many high-profile examples for the big companies to be playing dumb now. If you are a multi-billion dollar company with no web presence, that is your problem. If I owned ford.com I would sell it to FoMoCo for the millions that it is probably worth to them to own. If I reallyu wanted to get crazy I would just start looking up businesses in the yellows and start registering domains - oh AAAAAAAAAAATaxi.com is already taken huh ??? I think that you should not be forced to part with the domain that you have, assuming a few basic rules, but I have no idea what those rules should be, things like legitimate use of the URL, and a reasonable claim to the domain other than stumping up the $$$$'s. Anyone ???