Terrorism detection wasn't impossible. The FBI didn't do it's job. The FBI has and never will be held to account for it's falure to do it duty to protect the citizens of the US. But what do you expect from a bunch of Darl Mcbride wannabes? You can keep givng the FBI and DOJ more "tools" till you are blue in the fact that will not change the fact they failed to protect the US and are still failing to protect the US from terrorism. More laws are poltitcal cover for being inept and more concerned with looking good and getting good pay than getting any terrorists.
It's OK to lie if you area a liberal left wing Demokrat.
Wouldn't it be great to see AC posting banned on topic like this. The we could see who the real hipocrits are.
These kinds of reactioary laws pass by 99% in the congress all teh time. Blaming Ace Bush and the "neo consrvatives" for this is moronic. The political classes are to blame. Not just the "evil rupublicans." The Demokrats are more apt to abuse this crap than stupid Bush will. Can anyone say Waco? Ruby Ridge?
It's OK to lie when you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
My Paranoia stems from the fact that someone like Charles Schummer or Hillary Clinton could have this power. I am more afraid of abuses by the left than I am of the right who is generally to stupid to do much abusing. The Patroit Act is total evil but it never would have become law without allmost 100% support from congressional liberals who now say they "never read it". I think they read it rubbed there hands in glee and did the little happy Hitler dance so often seen in the old news reels shown on the history channel knowing they would be back in power some day to abuse it. The only democrat that didn't vote for it Ron Wyden is dead. The rest all supported it. So when you hear them say they were against it they are full of shit.
Patroit 2 is going t be even worse government breaucrats are going to sift throught data to find infractions they can bust you for to generate revenue at a miniumm and to persecute you for unpopular beliefs at a maximum. If they can do this they will do this Patroit act does away with the 4th amendment to put it bluntly.
" The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
I can't see getting around this. It's pretty clear in the Bill of Rights. I know in some cases it is done already and the Bushites want to extend that with Patroit 2. I am for going back to you need the signed warrant of a independent magistrate in all cases no exceptions.
I don't think it's all that out of hand to have reasonable fear of either of these Patroit acts and everyone should be bitching to your congress critters by snail mail about it and demanding total repeal. (congress critters are known to ignore email. It "too easyu to send" WTF?) It's not paranoid to fear all memebers of the political classes.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal leftwing Democrat.
The reason for the ocean location is that you can manuver the earth base end about in case you need to avoid something in space heading towards it. Space Junk. An impact would damage and perhaps cut the "cable"
Following someone around for 24/7 2.5 weeks without probable cause would be considered harrasment if the police did it and stalking if you or I did it. IF it's important enough to place limited manpower to follow someone around for 24/7 X 2.5 week it's important to get a warrant if you are going to short cut that and use a GPS tracking device.
The court said it was doubtfull if the police could have gone 24/7 X 2.5 weeks without being detected using a GPS didn't give them a free pass on that. Having had a warrant was therefore required. The had one so it's no big deal.
In short they had a warrant. Without the warrant it would have been illegal. This is what the court stated at least from what the NYT article I read almost 24 hours agos said. The DA said one was not required. The Court said yes it was but since they had one it was a moot point.
I am pretty sure if the cops followed you around 24/7 for 2 and a half week with no proable cause it would be considered harassmant. If a private citizen did it I am sure it would be stalking. So gettign a warrant demonstrates proable cause other wise it's just harassment.
Tell that to the guy next door to my Moms house who got busted because they came in her yard and saw his pot plant in his house. They had to look over a 6 foot fence to see in his window. They had to be in my moms yard to do that.
The bust was legal. He want to jail. This was not a area accessable from the sidewalk it was behind two locked gates.
They were not called and had no independent cause to suspect this guy as he was a Prof at the local JC.
No what the court said was that the use of GPS over the length of time in this case would have been illegal without a warrant. The procsecution was making a smart ass comment. That fact is moot in as the police had a warrant. But the court said without one it was the same as tailing a suspect around for 2 weeks. A major investement of time if a real tail was used with real cops doing the tail. The court was saying if it's that important get a warrent and not just to be shopping for data you can base a crime prosceution on just on speculation.
As a side note when have you ever heard of a regular court not rubber stamping request for a search warrent? If you ask for one you will get one. Not getting a search warrant is not a problem for the cops. Being lazy and violating peoples civil rights are a problem for the cops.
The guy in this case was a sick bastard who killed his own 9 year old daughter. The GPS data was an element in his conviction. Good thing they got the warrant as they should have.
Lots of folks posting to just use fake or special information when registering a domain as the way to go. Having the have the real and correct contact information for your domain is required. False or incorrect information is cause for loosing your domain.
Not having the correct information would allow those who want to get away with illegal acts to be free of the consequences of those acts. Accuracy and public access to that information is needed.
The other issue is privacy. Actually this is no big deal. Your personal information is available many more places than you can imagine. If you want to live your life protected and paranoid stay an AC don't have any domains and never register for anything. It's pretty simple. If you want a domain you have to be able to be got hold of. Your risk of having your mail box emptied out by criminals wanting to steal you identity is a greater danger than having your contact info readable from a whois look up or some web form at Namesecure or Register.com.
Actually I don't care for the democrats or republicans. I do care about people who hate ideas so much they will marginalize others. You may know the type. Jerry Falwell and Adolf Hilter are good examples of that. What disturbs me so much about a certain political group is their visceral hate of George Bush. That hate is right up their with the Nazis hate for the jews and Falwells hate for gays. When you hate that much you have no problem making lies up and doing evil things. So the sig is my protest showing how ignorant and dangerous that kind of hate is.
I believe in social justice. You can't get social justice with lies. You can't get social justice with hate.
Pretty much the censorship site is a load of crap. News that isn't, Opinions that are. Facts that are not. This isn't China or Russia you can print or say anything as evidenced by this site. It doesn't make it true. I doesn't entitle you to be popular or even understood.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing democrat.
No I accept that the US has done things wrong and will do things wrong in the future. I refuse to aplogise for being a US citizen is all and I fail to accept blame for the result of actions by others that my country has a right to react to. I make no claims as to the right or wrong of thoses actions
All I see is people blaming the US for "stuff". Whatever that stuff is I don't know but I refuse to beat myself up over it. I sure as hell am not going to loose sleep over it, wring my hands and wip myself bloody.
The war in Iraq is an extention of the war on terror. The war on terror is not about 9/11. 9/11 was the day the most of the US woke up to non state actors intent on attacking the US. That very year state supporters of terror were warned stop supporting terrorist acts by the US government. Some states elected to stop that support. (Libia to name one) Some didn't. Iraq didn't. Iraq was a basket case before the US and the UK attacked to remove Saddam from power. It's a basket case today, however Saddam is no longer exporting terror to surrounding states or the world, he no longer is filling new mass graves, he no longer is torturing citizens in Iraq. Oh I forgot all Iraqs problem were the USAs alone to begin with. Saddam was never responsible for his actions. No other nation ever supported him ever. No other nation ever sold him things or bought his oil. But as every slashdotter knows the US can never be or do right becaue the US is the pure and sole source of evil in the universe.
For damm sure according to many here unless you are a democrat you are totally wrong and out to destroy US demoracy as "we know it". Forget the fact the the US is a Republic. Before you go thinking I am some republican I am not. I certainly don't hate George Bush but I don't love him any either. I am in many respects a libertarian and could care less about the democratic or republican parties except to see them loose elections. As far as I am concerned both parties can stuff it. Howerver the visceral hate that most left wing democrats have for George Bush is really scarry. It compares to the Nazis hate for the jews or Jerry Falwells hate for gays. It's pretty sick. Just like most of the US is always wrong and is total evil stuff is pure crap.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing democrat
If you so ferevently believe this why can't you post with a logged in name? Afraid for your karma?
I have been a student of history for many years. I am well aware of the distortions of history by authors. Many of then are US authors. Your ranting that I must be totally brain dead because I happen to understand the politics of many writers on history and discount some of their opinions seems to piss you off. I am sorry the US has more often than not been the only friend some nations could find when they needed friends most. Add to that the fact the US has existed for a short 200 years and many of the world most persistant problems go back much farther I can't see how the US is such a problem. The US has really only been an actor on the world stage since the late 1800's so please give us all a break. The problems of the world are not all caused by the US or George Bush. The problem of islam and the west certainly predates the US by several centuries, centuries. I am looking at my world map right now trying to find countries that are "puppets" of the US I can't seem to find any. Perhaps you can help me here? I am also looking for countries where the US has imposed a government on another nation? Afganistan? Nope the UN helped establish that government. So far the only one I see is Iraq which has a provisional government until free and fair elections are held. I am looking for true US colnies, I can't find any. I am trying to find all the evil stuff the US has done all teh mass graves cause by US occupation forces. All the victims of US torture, I can't find any. I am also looking at all the fucked up places in the world. Most of them are former "possesions" of European nations. Their poverty and problems were not caused by the US. I am not reacting out of blind faith in any of my statements I am looking at the objective truth.
Your AC attempt to inflae your well spoken opinion of your self has failed.
Zero curent governments in the middle east were "appointed" by the US. Let me repeat that. Zero current governments in teh middle east wwere appointed by the US.
Most are the inheritors of goverments set up by Europeans and the UK pre and post WW2.
"The Primary Objective of Project Censored is to explore and publicize the extent of censorship in our society by locating stories about significant issues of which the public should be aware, but is not, for one reason or another. Thereby, the project hopes to stimulate responsible journalists to provide more mass media coverage of those issues and to encourage the general public to demand mass media coverage of those issues or to seek information from other sources."
Why do they think theses are important stories? I actually have read these stories in the media. I saw them reported. They didn't get traction. The storys don't matter. There was no censorship. Nothing to see here move along. However a bunch of people who chose to live in a liberal monoculture in one of the most expensive areas of Califorina that have decided to think for the rest of us about what is "news." It must be that they think the rest of us stupid to reason for ourselves. Maybe if they claim it's censorship they will get attention.
I am just weondering how many of those owned boxes are run by MCSEs who now are telling everyone they know "Linux." Anyone running Unix would have known to check, check, and recheck as well as patch, patch, patch. Even with all that extra sounding work it's still cheaper to deploy and run Linux boxes.
I just saw a bunch of muslims dancing in the street with knives shouting death to america in arabic on TV. Exactly how do you suggest we make peace with these people? Last time I looked US citizens are not out in the streets with gun/knives waved in the air screaming in hate death to islam or for the down fall of any nation. It seems to be the other way around. They want me dead. They want to destroy my nation. It seems that the media in the middle east and the imams there have the people they reach convinced I and my country am their oppressor. I want to know how this is? I would love to be at peace with these folks but they blame the US for every ill in their societies. Please tell me how to have peace with these people?
I don't respond to ACs
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Please again you can't "buy SCO." There isn't an amount of shares on the open market that could lead you to "control" SCO. The Canopy group owns 51+% of all outstanding SCO Stock. Controling SCO is imposible.
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Stephen apperently you are on someones shit list today. My apologies. I can't fathom what moderation is supposed to prove/help/solve. It seems random, illogical, childish and biased.
I think it's becuse you used the word capitalist. That upsets a resonably large group of/.er for some reason as far as I can tell. Likely it's because they can't reason. Who knows. I felt you were informative.
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Terrorism detection wasn't impossible. The FBI didn't do it's job. The FBI has and never will be held to account for it's falure to do it duty to protect the citizens of the US. But what do you expect from a bunch of Darl Mcbride wannabes? You can keep givng the FBI and DOJ more "tools" till you are blue in the fact that will not change the fact they failed to protect the US and are still failing to protect the US from terrorism. More laws are poltitcal cover for being inept and more concerned with looking good and getting good pay than getting any terrorists.
It's OK to lie if you area a liberal left wing Demokrat.
Wouldn't it be great to see AC posting banned on topic like this. The we could see who the real hipocrits are.
These kinds of reactioary laws pass by 99% in the congress all teh time. Blaming Ace Bush and the "neo consrvatives" for this is moronic. The political classes are to blame. Not just the "evil rupublicans." The Demokrats are more apt to abuse this crap than stupid Bush will. Can anyone say Waco? Ruby Ridge?
It's OK to lie when you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
My Paranoia stems from the fact that someone like Charles Schummer or Hillary Clinton could have this power. I am more afraid of abuses by the left than I am of the right who is generally to stupid to do much abusing. The Patroit Act is total evil but it never would have become law without allmost 100% support from congressional liberals who now say they "never read it". I think they read it rubbed there hands in glee and did the little happy Hitler dance so often seen in the old news reels shown on the history channel knowing they would be back in power some day to abuse it. The only democrat that didn't vote for it Ron Wyden is dead. The rest all supported it. So when you hear them say they were against it they are full of shit.
Patroit 2 is going t be even worse government breaucrats are going to sift throught data to find infractions they can bust you for to generate revenue at a miniumm and to persecute you for unpopular beliefs at a maximum. If they can do this they will do this Patroit act does away with the 4th amendment to put it bluntly.
" The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
I can't see getting around this. It's pretty clear in the Bill of Rights. I know in some cases it is done already and the Bushites want to extend that with Patroit 2. I am for going back to you need the signed warrant of a independent magistrate in all cases no exceptions.
I don't think it's all that out of hand to have reasonable fear of either of these Patroit acts and everyone should be bitching to your congress critters by snail mail about it and demanding total repeal. (congress critters are known to ignore email. It "too easyu to send" WTF?) It's not paranoid to fear all memebers of the political classes.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal leftwing Democrat.
Janitorial help of course.
No now would be a wonderful time to short SCO's management at the knees. This is whole SCO induced farce well past an outrage.
The reason for the ocean location is that you can manuver the earth base end about in case you need to avoid something in space heading towards it. Space Junk. An impact would damage and perhaps cut the "cable"
Following someone around for 24/7 2.5 weeks without probable cause would be considered harrasment if the police did it and stalking if you or I did it. IF it's important enough to place limited manpower to follow someone around for 24/7 X 2.5 week it's important to get a warrant if you are going to short cut that and use a GPS tracking device.
The court said it was doubtfull if the police could have gone 24/7 X 2.5 weeks without being detected using a GPS didn't give them a free pass on that. Having had a warrant was therefore required. The had one so it's no big deal.
In short they had a warrant. Without the warrant it would have been illegal. This is what the court stated at least from what the NYT article I read almost 24 hours agos said. The DA said one was not required. The Court said yes it was but since they had one it was a moot point.
I am pretty sure if the cops followed you around 24/7 for 2 and a half week with no proable cause it would be considered harassmant. If a private citizen did it I am sure it would be stalking. So gettign a warrant demonstrates proable cause other wise it's just harassment.
Tell that to the guy next door to my Moms house who got busted because they came in her yard and saw his pot plant in his house. They had to look over a 6 foot fence to see in his window. They had to be in my moms yard to do that.
The bust was legal. He want to jail. This was not a area accessable from the sidewalk it was behind two locked gates.
They were not called and had no independent cause to suspect this guy as he was a Prof at the local JC.
You are living in a dream world.
No what the court said was that the use of GPS over the length of time in this case would have been illegal without a warrant. The procsecution was making a smart ass comment. That fact is moot in as the police had a warrant. But the court said without one it was the same as tailing a suspect around for 2 weeks. A major investement of time if a real tail was used with real cops doing the tail. The court was saying if it's that important get a warrent and not just to be shopping for data you can base a crime prosceution on just on speculation.
As a side note when have you ever heard of a regular court not rubber stamping request for a search warrent? If you ask for one you will get one. Not getting a search warrant is not a problem for the cops. Being lazy and violating peoples civil rights are a problem for the cops.
The guy in this case was a sick bastard who killed his own 9 year old daughter. The GPS data was an element in his conviction. Good thing they got the warrant as they should have.
Lots of folks posting to just use fake or special information when registering a domain as the way to go. Having the have the real and correct contact information for your domain is required. False or incorrect information is cause for loosing your domain.
Not having the correct information would allow those who want to get away with illegal acts to be free of the consequences of those acts. Accuracy and public access to that information is needed.
The other issue is privacy. Actually this is no big deal. Your personal information is available many more places than you can imagine. If you want to live your life protected and paranoid stay an AC don't have any domains and never register for anything. It's pretty simple. If you want a domain you have to be able to be got hold of. Your risk of having your mail box emptied out by criminals wanting to steal you identity is a greater danger than having your contact info readable from a whois look up or some web form at Namesecure or Register.com.
Actually I don't care for the democrats or republicans. I do care about people who hate ideas so much they will marginalize others.
You may know the type. Jerry Falwell and Adolf Hilter are good examples of that. What disturbs me so much about a certain political group is their visceral hate of George Bush. That hate is right up their with the Nazis hate for the jews and Falwells hate for gays. When you hate that much you have no problem making lies up and doing evil things. So the sig is my protest showing how ignorant and dangerous that kind of hate is.
I believe in social justice. You can't get social justice with lies. You can't get social justice with hate.
Pretty much the censorship site is a load of crap. News that isn't, Opinions that are. Facts that are not. This isn't China or Russia you can print or say anything as evidenced by this site. It doesn't make it true. I doesn't entitle you to be popular or even understood.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing democrat.
No I accept that the US has done things wrong and will do things wrong in the future. I refuse to aplogise for being a US citizen is all and I fail to accept blame for the result of actions by others that my country has a right to react to. I make no claims as to the right or wrong of thoses actions
All I see is people blaming the US for "stuff". Whatever that stuff is I don't know but I refuse to beat myself up over it. I sure as hell am not going to loose sleep over it, wring my hands and wip myself bloody.
The war in Iraq is an extention of the war on terror. The war on terror is not about 9/11. 9/11
was the day the most of the US woke up to non state actors intent on attacking the US. That very year state supporters of terror were warned stop supporting terrorist acts by the US government. Some states elected to stop that support. (Libia to name one) Some didn't. Iraq didn't. Iraq was a basket case before the US and the UK attacked to remove Saddam from power. It's a basket case today, however Saddam is no longer exporting terror to surrounding states or the world, he no longer is filling new mass graves, he no longer is torturing citizens in Iraq. Oh I forgot all Iraqs problem were the USAs alone to begin with. Saddam was never responsible for his actions. No other nation ever supported him ever. No other nation ever sold him things or bought his oil. But as every slashdotter knows the US can never be or do right becaue the US is the pure and sole source of evil in the universe.
For damm sure according to many here unless you are a democrat you are totally wrong and out to destroy US demoracy as "we know it". Forget the fact the the US is a Republic. Before you go thinking I am some republican I am not. I certainly don't hate George Bush but I don't love him any either. I am in many respects a libertarian and could care less about the democratic or republican parties except to see them loose elections. As far as I am concerned both parties can stuff it. Howerver the visceral hate that most left wing democrats have for George Bush is really scarry. It compares to the Nazis hate for the jews or Jerry Falwells hate for gays. It's pretty sick. Just like most of the US is always wrong and is total evil stuff is pure crap.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing democrat
If you so ferevently believe this why can't you post with a logged in name? Afraid for your karma?
I have been a student of history for many years. I am well aware of the distortions of history by authors. Many of then are US authors. Your ranting that I must be totally brain dead because I happen to understand the politics of many writers on history and discount some of their opinions seems to piss you off. I am sorry the US has more often than not been the only friend some nations could find when they needed friends most. Add to that the fact the US has existed for a short 200 years and many of the world most persistant problems go back much farther I can't see how the US is such a problem. The US has really only been an actor on the world stage since the late 1800's so please give us all a break. The problems of the world are not all caused by the US or George Bush. The problem of islam and the west certainly predates the US by several centuries, centuries. I am looking at my world map right now trying to find countries that are "puppets" of the US I can't seem to find any. Perhaps you can help me here? I am also looking for countries where the US has imposed a government on another nation? Afganistan? Nope the UN helped establish that government. So far the only one I see is Iraq which has a provisional government until free and fair elections are held. I am looking for true US colnies, I can't find any. I am trying to find all the evil stuff the US has done all teh mass graves cause by US occupation forces. All the victims of US torture, I can't find any. I am also looking at all the fucked up places in the world. Most of them are former "possesions" of European nations. Their poverty and problems were not caused by the US. I am not reacting out of blind faith in any of my statements I am looking at the objective truth.
Your AC attempt to inflae your well spoken opinion of your self has failed.
It's OK to lie when you are a liberal democrat.
Many facts from an AC. And worth all the weight an AC is entitled to zero.
Lieing is OK is you are a left wing democrat.
After watching the CBC, DW and (now unfortunately) the BBC becoming this way also. All news is biased. There is no independednt media anymore.
Only an AC can post trolling bullshit this good hehehe.
Zero curent governments in the middle east were "appointed" by the US.
Let me repeat that.
Zero current governments in teh middle east wwere appointed by the US.
Most are the inheritors of goverments set up by Europeans and the UK pre and post WW2.
From their site
"The Primary Objective of Project Censored is to explore and publicize the extent of censorship in our society by locating stories about significant issues of which the public should be aware, but is not, for one reason or another. Thereby, the project hopes to stimulate responsible journalists to provide more mass media coverage of those issues and to encourage the general public to demand mass media coverage of those issues or to seek information from other sources."
Why do they think theses are important stories? I actually have read these stories in the media. I saw them reported. They didn't get traction. The storys don't matter. There was no censorship. Nothing to see here move along. However a bunch of people who chose to live in a liberal monoculture in one of the most expensive areas of Califorina that have decided to think for the rest of us about what is "news." It must be that they think the rest of us stupid to reason for ourselves. Maybe if they claim it's censorship they will get attention.
It's OK to lie if you are left wing democrat.
I am just weondering how many of those owned boxes are run by MCSEs who now are telling everyone they know "Linux." Anyone running Unix would have known to check, check, and recheck as well as patch, patch, patch. Even with all that extra sounding work it's still cheaper to deploy and run Linux boxes.
You are right. Sustainable peace my ass.
I just saw a bunch of muslims dancing in the street with knives shouting death to america in arabic on TV. Exactly how do you suggest we make peace with these people? Last time I looked US citizens are not out in the streets with gun/knives waved in the air screaming in hate death to islam or for the down fall of any nation. It seems to be the other way around. They want me dead. They want to destroy my nation. It seems that the media in the middle east and the imams there have the people they reach convinced I and my country am their oppressor. I want to know how this is? I would love to be at peace with these folks but they blame the US for every ill in their societies.
Please tell me how to have peace with these people?
I don't respond to ACs
Please again you can't "buy SCO." There isn't an amount of shares on the open market that could lead you to "control" SCO. The Canopy group owns 51+% of all outstanding SCO Stock. Controling SCO is imposible.
Also Why would you want give money to McSlime and his cohort to reward their piracy?
Stephen apperently you are on someones shit list today. My apologies. I can't fathom what moderation is supposed to prove/help/solve. It seems random, illogical, childish and biased.
/.er for some reason as far as I can tell. Likely it's because they can't reason. Who knows. I felt you were informative.
I think it's becuse you used the word capitalist. That upsets a resonably large group of
not if you belong to SPEWS.