You didn't mention the buckets o' money getting ISO certifcation costs to become and maintain. Lots of places (like the US government) will not do business for certain products unless you have ISO certifications and the products are 100% compliant.
They can take their "standards" and shove them all if this is what they are going to persue through out their organization.
Remember this as well most people don't run all that stuff. Also lots on that list are subject to "local" exploits not remote exploits. The ssh exploits are the current baddies. Servers that run console only don't usually install xfree at all certainly not Mahjong and kdebase. It's not like Microsoft where the kitchen sink is installed and it's all enabled.
I got a copy last night from 2 diffent senders both were caught by my wonderful ISP who filters for viri and removed the attachments. Seeing how it couldn't affect me since I run Linux I was quite happy anyway they do that. The Microsoft email does look quite good BTW I took a look before it hit the bit bucket. Both Emails were from California (The Bay area.)
Trusted computing is a scam being foisted off by control freaks who are up to no good. They are from goverment and industry. That should make you skeptical of their intentions. Bob Barr was and is an asshat but that doesn't make him wrong all the time. Once again he is right. I am not suprized. Why are so many of you?
The problem is two fold. Media trying to comoditize the internet, control content and aggregate as much data on you as they can. Goverments wanting to aggragate all info they can get on you. Governments wanting to out right block your access to certain information. It's about being in control. They are are all ready in control.
What are you going to to about it? What are you doing about it? I read this yesterday on the Register and though about it. I see this as a issue that as usual will resolve it's self in favor of those in control. The reason fo this is many "citizens" don't give a damm and all those in business only want to make money.
I am a registered libertarian but vote for the person not the party.
I also think it's correct to insist on your rights and demand all real persons rights be protected.
I would make sure one change is made in law. Corperations would be denied the rights of actual living breathing humans. Breaking the law would result in their dissolution with the profits going to the persons damaged by their crimes. Corperate officer would also face much more harsh jail time than they do now. In all cases the rights and desires of goverment would be inferior to any humans under law. IF we are going to have "free" markets they have to be free for all. No goverment protections for coperate lawbreakers, no winners and loosers selected by politicians or fellow corporations.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
All this outsourcing will continue until the first Pakistani nuke drops on Mumbai. At the rate the nationalistic Hindu party controling India is going it may not be that long. A new Muslim backlash is also brewing in India and the "terror" problem will become acute ther as well. Remeber the recent bombings in Bombay/Mumbai.
That is what really is going to impact the total cost of outsourcing.
Companies that send jobs abroad are trators and you shouldn't do busibness with them.
It's Ok to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
No the Democrats will block his confirmation unless he tells them how he feels about abortion and particulate emissions from coal fired electric generation.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing democrat.
Democrat or Demokrat. Demokrat fits better as they seem to be having no problem telling us we must do as they say or think as they do or we are ugly, evil and stupid. I didn't start the trashing but if you are not one of them you are fair game for insult and being marginalized. Marginalization is the first step to a point where it's acceptable to hound you out of society and discriminate against you. Of all the negative and ignorant things I have seen as a sig mine is fine as far as I am concerned. Plenty of people are pushing politics in their sigs. When I see a lessining of the extremist crap thats being passed of as fact I might change it. I have repeatedly said I have no use for the republicans either. Since the loud liberal left wing democrats seem to dominate discussion here and elsewhere on the internet they are the ones who need to be reminded the truth counts not your political view point. If my sig offends then maybe we need to examine why it offends and how that differs from the offence I feel when seeing pure crap being passed off for the truth.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
If you hadn't noticed the government has been locking up people and throwing away the key alot longer then the Republicans have had a lock on "power" I say screw the republicans and the democrats on this. Only one democrat voted against the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. The rest all claim they didn't read it. WTF? Someone is full of shit.
You sure are not going to win anyone over to your way of thinking by calling them a moron.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing demokrat.
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For once I agre with you. The ceasless Microsoft suckboyism is gut turning and devoid of use.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing demokrat.
The republicrats conspire to keep it a 2 party system. Why do you think they really want public financing of the political campaigns? Why do you think they want to limit then amounts of money that can be raised and how it's spent? It's a rigged game. The same people always end up in control. They do not pass one law that will detract from that either. It might as well be a single party system.
It's OK to lie if you area liberal left wing Demokrat.
I didn't say republikans didn't lie they have it down to almost an art form. I didn't say Ace Bush wasn't a total lieing sack of shit which he is. Given that liberal left wing demokrats seem to get a free ride on truthfulness and they dominate the media I simply point that out. Must have struck a nerve in you. To bad it's my sig I'll keep it.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
We have a goverment for by and of the Lawyers. What they don't control petty breaucrats do. It's much more convient for them when you have no rights to get in the way of their plans.
It's OK to lie when you are a liberal left wing democrat.
And I put a bullet into their jackbooted asses because I didn't buy into the bleeding liberal anti gun lobby gun banners who wanted to get my guns because "terrorists might get them" or "it was for the children."
It's OK to lie when you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
I have a new invention the lead body condom. It will shield you from those nasty microwaves all those cell phones put out. The only draw backs are it's kind of hard to move around in it's a hassle when you have to hang a piss but we are working on those.
1. The only training thses guys usually get is in front of a TV camera for propaganda. It's a matter of ecconomics they don't have training budgets for this stuff. 2. They don't send anti terrorist squads after dope dealers which is what this original post was about if you bothered to read it. 3. I am one of the bad asses I shoot no less than 400 rounds of 45 ACP a week. I wear out at least one pistol completely every year not including replaced parts due to wear. Lots of it against moving targets. 4. Comming into my how at any time of day would be very problematic. 5. It would be easier to call me on the phone and "ask me" since I know 95% of all the locals who are involved in executing all these warrants. 6. Yes I am better at this game I train the people you seem so impressed with under contract as part of my job.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
If a DEA agent was in my house without a warrant and I am sure he would have to be since I do not do drugs I would be out in about 24 hours.
They already have the power. They gutted the constutition a long time ago. Which states.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
No where in there in there does it say; "unless it's the war on drugs" or "unless it's the war on terror" or "unless the authorites make a huge mistake and get the wrong house."
Remember the Bill of Rights are a prohibition on what the goverment may do. Not a list of shit the goverment is giving the citizen permission to do. It's a list of restrictions on the government. I don't see any exceptions here.
War on terror. War on Drugs. No difference it's really the war on the Bill of Rights. If that ain't worth dieing over nothing is. Oh I forgot this is Slashdot nothing is worth dieing over just be a total pussy and curl up in the corner after you are done talking some shit about people you don't like.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal leftwing Demokrat.
They can't react fast enough to get you before you get at least one of them. Since you are not some drug addled doper one of them will have a serious leak.
If you are less thant 20 feet way they can't react before you pull the trigger. Who uses a saftey on the pistol under the pillow? Seeing how (a) it's a failproof revolver (b) it's not out in public why would it need to be safed at all?
Yes and you would be dead since the only exposure you have had to firearms is on TV or some fucked up video game. People who have firearms and train with them are not bound to miss. Someone comes breaking into my house after dark thirty I don't give a fuck who they are is risking death. As they say better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6 any day.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
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You make a bunch of good points.
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You didn't mention the buckets o' money getting ISO certifcation costs to become and maintain. Lots of places (like the US government) will not do business for certain products unless you have ISO certifications and the products are 100% compliant.
They can take their "standards" and shove them all if this is what they are going to persue through out their organization.
Japan loves the ISO too
Remember this as well most people don't run all that stuff. Also lots on that list are subject to "local" exploits not remote exploits. The ssh exploits are the current baddies. Servers that run console only don't usually install xfree at all certainly not Mahjong and kdebase. It's not like Microsoft where the kitchen sink is installed and it's all enabled.
I got a copy last night from 2 diffent senders both were caught by my wonderful ISP who filters for viri and removed the attachments. Seeing how it couldn't affect me since I run Linux I was quite happy anyway they do that. The Microsoft email does look quite good BTW I took a look before it hit the bit bucket. Both Emails were from California (The Bay area.)
It's such a "inherent good" that the ACLU regulary has to sue to protect the rights of a minority fron teh majority.
I live in a Republic. The constutition is supposed to protect me from the "tyranny of the majority."
Holding democratic elections doesn't equal democracy.
Trusted computing is a scam being foisted off by control freaks who are up to no good. They are from goverment and industry. That should make you skeptical of their intentions. Bob Barr was and is an asshat but that doesn't make him wrong all the time. Once again he is right. I am not suprized.
Why are so many of you?
I think he ment sighlent.
The problem is two fold. Media trying to comoditize the internet, control content and aggregate as much data on you as they can. Goverments wanting to aggragate all info they can get on you. Governments wanting to out right block your access to certain information. It's about being in control. They are are all ready in control.
What are you going to to about it? What are you doing about it? I read this yesterday on the Register and though about it. I see this as a issue that as usual will resolve it's self in favor of those in control. The reason fo this is many "citizens" don't give a damm and all those in business only want to make money.
I vote for #2
More slow motion pump and dump with there "timed sales" Someone just shoot them, please.
Like how hard it is for us to proof read something?
I have dyslexia and AADD. It's a small wonder I can write at all.
I am a registered libertarian but vote for the person not the party.
I also think it's correct to insist on your rights and demand all real persons rights be protected.
I would make sure one change is made in law. Corperations would be denied the rights of actual living breathing humans. Breaking the law would result in their dissolution with the profits going to the persons damaged by their crimes. Corperate officer would also face much more harsh jail time than they do now. In all cases the rights and desires of goverment would be inferior to any humans under law. IF we are going to have "free" markets they have to be free for all. No goverment protections for coperate lawbreakers, no winners and loosers selected by politicians or fellow corporations.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
All this outsourcing will continue until the first Pakistani nuke drops on Mumbai. At the rate the nationalistic Hindu party controling India is going it may not be that long. A new Muslim backlash is also brewing in India and the "terror" problem will become acute ther as well. Remeber the recent bombings in Bombay/Mumbai.
That is what really is going to impact the total cost of outsourcing.
Companies that send jobs abroad are trators and you shouldn't do busibness with them.
It's Ok to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
No the Democrats will block his confirmation unless he tells them how he feels about abortion and particulate emissions from coal fired electric generation.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing democrat.
Democrat or Demokrat. Demokrat fits better as they seem to be having no problem telling us we must do as they say or think as they do or we are ugly, evil and stupid. I didn't start the trashing but if you are not one of them you are fair game for insult and being marginalized. Marginalization is the first step to a point where it's acceptable to hound you out of society and discriminate against you. Of all the negative and ignorant things I have seen as a sig mine is fine as far as I am concerned. Plenty of people are pushing politics in their sigs. When I see a lessining of the extremist crap thats being passed of as fact I might change it.
I have repeatedly said I have no use for the republicans either. Since the loud liberal left wing democrats seem to dominate discussion here and elsewhere on the internet they are the ones who need to be reminded the truth counts not your political view point. If my sig offends then maybe we need to examine why it offends and how that differs from the offence I feel when seeing pure crap being passed off for the truth.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
Yes I do
A bunch of Iraqis ar doing it right now without much problem.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
"Republicans should all be shot."
What if they start shooting back?
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
If you hadn't noticed the government has been locking up people and throwing away the key alot longer then the Republicans have had a lock on "power" I say screw the republicans and the democrats on this. Only one democrat voted against the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. The rest all claim they didn't read it. WTF? Someone is full of shit.
You sure are not going to win anyone over to your way of thinking by calling them a moron.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing demokrat.
For once I agre with you. The ceasless Microsoft suckboyism is gut turning and devoid of use.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing demokrat.
The republicrats conspire to keep it a 2 party system. Why do you think they really want public financing of the political campaigns? Why do you think they want to limit then amounts of money that can be raised and how it's spent? It's a rigged game. The same people always end up in control. They do not pass one law that will detract from that either. It might as well be a single party system.
It's OK to lie if you area liberal left wing Demokrat.
I didn't say republikans didn't lie they have it down to almost an art form. I didn't say Ace Bush wasn't a total lieing sack of shit which he is. Given that liberal left wing demokrats seem to get a free ride on truthfulness and they dominate the media I simply point that out. Must have struck a nerve in you. To bad it's my sig I'll keep it.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
Politician = lawyers. Lawyers = Politicians
We have a goverment for by and of the Lawyers.
What they don't control petty breaucrats do.
It's much more convient for them when you have no rights to get in the way of their plans.
It's OK to lie when you are a liberal left wing democrat.
And I put a bullet into their jackbooted asses because I didn't buy into the bleeding liberal anti gun lobby gun banners who wanted to get my guns because "terrorists might get them" or "it was for the children."
It's OK to lie when you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
I have a new invention the lead body condom. It will shield you from those nasty microwaves all those cell phones put out. The only draw backs are it's kind of hard to move around in it's a hassle when you have to hang a piss but we are working on those.
You watch too much TV.
1. The only training thses guys usually get is in front of a TV camera for propaganda. It's a matter of ecconomics they don't have training budgets for this stuff. 2. They don't send anti terrorist squads after dope dealers which is what this original post was about if you bothered to read it. 3. I am one of the bad asses I shoot no less than 400 rounds of 45 ACP a week. I wear out at least one pistol completely every year not including replaced parts due to wear. Lots of it against moving targets. 4. Comming into my how at any time of day would be very problematic. 5. It would be easier to call me on the phone and "ask me" since I know 95% of all the locals who are involved in executing all these warrants. 6. Yes I am better at this game I train the people you seem so impressed with under contract as part of my job.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.
If a DEA agent was in my house without a warrant and I am sure he would have to be since I do not do drugs I would be out in about 24 hours.
They already have the power. They gutted the constutition a long time ago. Which states.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
No where in there in there does it say; "unless it's the war on drugs" or "unless it's the war on terror" or "unless the authorites make a huge mistake and get the wrong house."
Remember the Bill of Rights are a prohibition on what the goverment may do. Not a list of shit the goverment is giving the citizen permission to do. It's a list of restrictions on the government. I don't see any exceptions here.
War on terror. War on Drugs. No difference it's really the war on the Bill of Rights. If that ain't worth dieing over nothing is. Oh I forgot this is Slashdot nothing is worth dieing over just be a total pussy and curl up in the corner after you are done talking some shit about people you don't like.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal leftwing Demokrat.
Shit for tv..
They can't react fast enough to get you before you get at least one of them. Since you are not some drug addled doper one of them will have a serious leak.
If you are less thant 20 feet way they can't react before you pull the trigger. Who uses a saftey on the pistol under the pillow? Seeing how (a) it's a failproof revolver (b) it's not out in public why would it need to be safed at all?
Yes and you would be dead since the only exposure you have had to firearms is on TV or some fucked up video game. People who have firearms and train with them are not bound to miss. Someone comes breaking into my house after dark thirty I don't give a fuck who they are is risking death. As they say better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6 any day.
It's OK to lie if you are a liberal left wing Demokrat.