No, really they need to work on incorporating a simple spellchecker into the slash code. It would be sooo easy to do, I'm surprised some slash enthusiast hasn't done it for them. Spellcheck not just their posts, but ours too.
You're missing the main point of Carnivore: it's not (at least publicly) about who's saying what, it's about who's talking to whom.
SSH, telnet, whatever. They just want to know what IP you're talking to. If that IP is a bad person, you might be a bad person too. Then traditional investigative techniques (wiretaps, surveillance, pulling bank records, etc.) will follow.
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Yes, and no. The Supreme Court has previously ruled that commercial speech is afforded less protection than political speech. Also, corporations generally don't have the same access to constitutional rights; constitutional rights are the rights of the people. The shareholders and officers have constitutional rights; the corporation -- not so much.
In this case, a corporation is suing for its right to commercial free speech.
The "slippery slope" proponents will argue that speech is speech, and allowing these restrictions to stand is the first step towards the abrogation of that right.
This is the incarnation of the perfect business model. First, as RAMBUS, get on the JEDEC committee developing the next version of SDRAM technology (DDR). Next, patent this technology (can you say "conflict of interest"?). In parallel, develop your own proprietary technology (RDRAM). Hire a team of lawyers and sue everyone using either technology. Use higher settlements and royalties on the "open" standard (DDR) to force everyone to use the "closed" standard (RDRAM), since you'll likely make more money on the manufacturing end of that technology.
Your only risks? Your patents might be overturned. Solution: hire more lawyers, tie it up for years. Oh, and antitrust. Solution: hire more lawyers.
remember this Slashdot story, regarding
this Suck article?
"the Internet's collective response to one well-nigh apocalyptic decision after another has unfortunately been the same as the Internet's collective response to just about everything: posts, lots and lots of posts. Discussions and cries of hypocrisy and malformed analogies have consumed megabyte upon megabyte of masturbatory rage and self-indulgent self-righteousness.
Which, of course, accomplishes exactly nothing...Lawyers rule the world. And don't you forget it."
I found this
bit of info from the EFF quite interesting:
There are two kinds of warrant under which the FBI can monitor communications. The more wide-ranging is the Title III warrant, which enables the FBI to intercept the actual texts of e-mails. However, this kind of warrant is more difficult to obtain.
Carnivore uses the weaker "trap and trace" and "pen register" warrants, but in a new and wider way. These warrants were designed for the phone system; to trace the number of origin of a phone call or a list of the numbers called from a phone. Carnivore uses these warrants to intercept the headers of all e-mails on the system, and then filters out those not "to" or "from" the surveillance target.
Besides e-mails, Carnivore can also intercept instant-messaging systems, visits to Web sites and Internet relay chat sessions.
So it looks like Carnivore is more of a traffic
analysis tool; who is talking to whom. This type
of surveillance doesn't care if you encrypt
your email or
not (in fact, using the phone analogy, Carnivore
should be ignoring the message body when
deployed under a trap and trace warrant). And
the URL/AIM capture is a nice touch, too.
Where do you want to go today - Microsoft
Where did you go today - Carnivore
Physically, Carnivore is a personal computer with a network interface, and ZIP or Jaz removable disk drive, running a version of the Microsoft Windows operating system, with the Carnivore software loaded.
Carnivore's output goes on a zip disk. The
advantage of "capturing" data to a disk is
that the disk now becomes evidence, separate from
the collection system. In a court system, this
is important -- separate the surveillance data
from the surveillance system.
The frequency of the output
dump is on the order of a week or several weeks.
Snagging huge amounts of data is pretty much
out of the question. That's not to say Carnivore
won't be "extended" in the future to include such traffic analysis.
What? I have to pay for 2 MS licenses even if I don't want their software!
No, you don't (directly). Dell does. Dell passes
it on to you. Microsoft gives Dell a sweet deal
on a per CPU sold basis. That could be
changed, but hasn't been changed. Dell pays
per CPU sold
I thought this was changing due to the case against Microsoft and other recent events.
No, Microsoft has not yet been force to make
concessions. All of the ramifications of the
trial have been put on hold until the appeals
are done.
does anyone have any more info on the status of the RBL? The author says RBL hasn't been working properly since 8/10. I find no references/complaints about that on Deja (which strikes me as odd, if there really is a problem). I use it on our mailer, and haven't seen any problems. There isn't any news posted on the
RBL site. FUD?
I'd be more worried about some software company
hawking a package that lets profs "lockup" their
own eTexts, since ultimately the profs determine
what texts are required for their classes. Currently, the profs make good money republishing/obsoleting their books, often for
no other apparent reason than forcing next year's
students to buy new books, not sharing or buying
used editions.
Vital takes the profs out of the money loop -- so capitalism will work against Vital in many cases. The real story is: how many schools are using time-locked e-texts, and what is the growth rate of that practice?
the most interesting thing, IMHO, is that this
ruling might actually help the original domain
holder -- more so than if the ruling was in his
favor. He's now suing for "unfair competition", which, if he wins, entitles him
to all of the profits of the interloper.
In this case, those profits are in the millions of
dollars.
Microsoft will be "offering support for its antiquated products"
Well, they already have the antiquated products covered. I guess the article is implying they'll
be adding "support" in the future. Wow, I can
hardly wait.
They've (deja) been very quiet about the whole affair. I did, however, come across this:
"Old Usenet messages - Starting May 4, many messages posted over two years ago will not be accessible on a temporary basis, and after May 8, all messages posted over a year ago will not be accessible on a temporary basis. We will be taking this opportunity to reconfigure the service that provides messages posted prior to May 1999. Therefore, these messages will not be accessible on the site for some time, possibly a few months. Have no fear: We're committed to bringing these messages back online as soon as possible."
Why they feel they have to "reconfigure the
service" is beyond me.
Most studies confirm that people only remember 10 percent of what they hear, 30 percent of what they read, but about 80 percent of what they see and do.
"Old Usenet messages - Starting May 4, many messages posted over two years ago will not be accessible on a temporary basis, and after May 8,
all messages posted over a year ago will not be accessible on a
temporary basis. We will be taking this opportunity to reconfigure the
service that provides messages posted prior to May 1999. Therefore, these messages will not be accessible on the site for some time, possibly a few months. Have no fear: We're committed to bringing these
messages back online as soon as possible."
IMHO the only real problem is that Google, also, continues to point to non-existent web pages.
Actually, IMHO, I think that that's a plus. You can access dead pages by selecting the "cached" hyperlink. Sometimes a dead page has just the
thing you're looking for. So they
revamped the target site and 404'ed all of their
old pages? -- it no longer means you have to spend 10 or
20 minutes trying to find where they've put the
page.
Also,/.ed pages are still accessible via the
google cache;)
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No, really they need to work on incorporating a simple spellchecker into the slash code. It would be sooo easy to do, I'm surprised some slash enthusiast hasn't done it for them. Spellcheck not just their posts, but ours too.
SSH, telnet, whatever. They just want to know what IP you're talking to. If that IP is a bad person, you might be a bad person too. Then traditional investigative techniques (wiretaps, surveillance, pulling bank records, etc.) will follow.
In this case, a corporation is suing for its right to commercial free speech.
The "slippery slope" proponents will argue that speech is speech, and allowing these restrictions to stand is the first step towards the abrogation of that right.
Sadly, the movie has probably been banned.
Your only risks? Your patents might be overturned. Solution: hire more lawyers, tie it up for years. Oh, and antitrust. Solution: hire more lawyers.
Ugggh.
"the Internet's collective response to one well-nigh apocalyptic decision after another has unfortunately been the same as the Internet's collective response to just about everything: posts, lots and lots of posts. Discussions and cries of hypocrisy and malformed analogies have consumed megabyte upon megabyte of masturbatory rage and self-indulgent self-righteousness.
Which, of course, accomplishes exactly nothing...Lawyers rule the world. And don't you forget it."
another e-crusade, great.
Indeed. I hat things that are har to undersand.
But one thing is for certain: Do not fuck around. If you are experiencing any kind of pain, get to a doctor and get it diagnosed.
http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/wrists.html
There are two kinds of warrant under which the FBI can monitor communications. The more wide-ranging is the Title III warrant, which enables the FBI to intercept the actual texts of e-mails. However, this kind of warrant is more difficult to obtain.
Carnivore uses the weaker "trap and trace" and "pen register" warrants, but in a new and wider way. These warrants were designed for the phone system; to trace the number of origin of a phone call or a list of the numbers called from a phone. Carnivore uses these warrants to intercept the headers of all e-mails on the system, and then filters out those not "to" or "from" the surveillance target.
Besides e-mails, Carnivore can also intercept instant-messaging systems, visits to Web sites and Internet relay chat sessions.
So it looks like Carnivore is more of a traffic analysis tool; who is talking to whom. This type of surveillance doesn't care if you encrypt your email or not (in fact, using the phone analogy, Carnivore should be ignoring the message body when deployed under a trap and trace warrant). And the URL/AIM capture is a nice touch, too.
Where do you want to go today - Microsoft
Where did you go today - Carnivore
Physically, Carnivore is a personal computer with a network interface, and ZIP or Jaz removable disk drive, running a version of the Microsoft Windows operating system, with the Carnivore software loaded.
http://www.house.gov/judiciary/perr0724.htm
The frequency of the output dump is on the order of a week or several weeks. Snagging huge amounts of data is pretty much out of the question. That's not to say Carnivore won't be "extended" in the future to include such traffic analysis.
I'm guessing they don't want the public embarrassment of the universities disclosing the fact that ROT-13 will defeat 99% of their snooping ability.
So, encrypt, or forge headers/ip addresses, or tunnel, or...
whatever. move on, nothing to see here.
No, you don't (directly). Dell does. Dell passes it on to you. Microsoft gives Dell a sweet deal on a per CPU sold basis. That could be changed, but hasn't been changed. Dell pays per CPU sold
I thought this was changing due to the case against Microsoft and other recent events.
No, Microsoft has not yet been force to make concessions. All of the ramifications of the trial have been put on hold until the appeals are done.
does anyone have any more info on the status of the RBL? The author says RBL hasn't been working properly since 8/10. I find no references/complaints about that on Deja (which strikes me as odd, if there really is a problem). I use it on our mailer, and haven't seen any problems. There isn't any news posted on the RBL site. FUD?
with the presidential election fast approaching, I'm surprised Al has time to tinker with I2.
has standards, here and here. Most of the Open Source projects have similar directives.
Vital takes the profs out of the money loop -- so capitalism will work against Vital in many cases. The real story is: how many schools are using time-locked e-texts, and what is the growth rate of that practice?
Well, they already have the antiquated products covered. I guess the article is implying they'll be adding "support" in the future. Wow, I can hardly wait.
"Old Usenet messages - Starting May 4, many messages posted over two years ago will not be accessible on a temporary basis, and after May 8, all messages posted over a year ago will not be accessible on a temporary basis. We will be taking this opportunity to reconfigure the service that provides messages posted prior to May 1999. Therefore, these messages will not be accessible on the site for some time, possibly a few months. Have no fear: We're committed to bringing these messages back online as soon as possible."
Why they feel they have to "reconfigure the service" is beyond me.
Most studies confirm that people only remember 10 percent of what they hear, 30 percent of what they read, but about 80 percent of what they see and do.
"Old Usenet messages - Starting May 4, many messages posted over two years ago will not be accessible on a temporary basis, and after May 8, all messages posted over a year ago will not be accessible on a temporary basis. We will be taking this opportunity to reconfigure the service that provides messages posted prior to May 1999. Therefore, these messages will not be accessible on the site for some time, possibly a few months. Have no fear: We're committed to bringing these messages back online as soon as possible."
The sooner the better.
Actually, IMHO, I think that that's a plus. You can access dead pages by selecting the "cached" hyperlink. Sometimes a dead page has just the thing you're looking for. So they revamped the target site and 404'ed all of their old pages? -- it no longer means you have to spend 10 or 20 minutes trying to find where they've put the page.
Also, /.ed pages are still accessible via the
google cache ;)
are you getting this (early ct syndrome) professionally treated? In the words of jwz:
"Do not fuck around. If you are experiencing any kind of pain, get to a doctor and get it diagnosed."
Looking for alternative solutions is great, but don't do it to the exclusion of professional help.
Best of luck.