I agree--it's better to get stuff working reliably rather than get stuff that works properly on half the machines out there. Such is the case with Real Player. It only works some of the time on my machine, and I know of plenty of other people who have the same problems. It's not going to take off unless it works for everybody.
There is an unusual law in the city of Holland that allows any measure to be brought to a ballot vote by petition. This is good in that it brings democracy directly to the people. Unfortunately, if a couple thousand people signed a petition demanding that the mayor must part Lake Michigan or forfeit his salary, that issue would go on the ballot. Democracy doesn't always make sense.
Yes, it does. You`re saying that just because you don`t agree with popular opinion means that it`s wrong. If you want to really live in a democracy, you`ve got to either get rid of that kind of closed-minded opinion, or move to another town. Democracy is about trusting the judgement of the masses more than you`ll trust the judgement of any individual.
It's not about being over-sensitive, it's about respect. I too, think that the storyline could've been written without the slant against Stevie. I, also, don't care for his music, but like Uche said, he's a popular musician for his talent and help for advances in technology for the blind.
I had the same line of thought...If Rob wants this to be a better Nerd site, I suggest making fewer personal opinionated comments on the story, especially with regards to things like music.
I personally don't think there's such a thing as bad music, as long as the person composing it actually liked the music. There's music that I don't like, and music that you don't like, but essentially, music is an expression of thought. Nobody can say that the musician is bad unless that musician has specific goals and isn't reaching them. For instance, a composer writing for his/her own enjoyment can't do anything wrong and be "bad". However, a musician trying to get on the top 30 of the week *can* fail. As long as there's somebody else out there appreciating the music, I think the musician would be pleased.
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I mean, if you were four and you saw a CG movie as cool as Toy Story, wouldn't you want to figure out how they did all that with computers?
Actually, I wouldn't. I might ponder for a few seconds, but unless I can make a leap of imagination from what I know to what is on the screen, the thought will leave my mind in seconds. For me, there has to be a jump point where I have enough information to begin some kind of analysis of what I see. For instance, most lay-people expect the day sky to be blue. Astronomers (both amateur and professionals) will only wonder why the sky is blue when they learn that other planets are other colours and have different colour skies. Same as with movies. I'm fairly critical with movies--I will analyze this and that, and my friends will just say, "Why can't you just enjoy the movie?" Because I know something they don't. I am able to make that leap of analysis based on knowing a little background of the movie, especially if the movie is about computers or animals.
Now let's talk about comp animation. I've never been particularly interested in animation, probably because I've never known anything beyond frame-by-frame anim. But perhaps if I'd seen something when I was younger that my knowledge could grasp, then I'd reach for understanding that, and I'd be able to make the jump to understanding this now and I'd be able to understand this more fully, and hence be more interested. I wouldn't expect any child to be interested in computer animation any more than a child is interested in drawing a cartoon just from watching Sailer Moon (I know that there are these people, but not very many, that's all).
Choose My-Deja as your free email provider, and don't worry about spam--they've used spam filtering for a while now.
The only thing wrong with it is that I don't know what their filter criteria is, nor can I ever peek at those filtered messages. I use that account as my newsgroup account. I use a usa.net account as a sign-in account that nobody ever needs to contact me at, but I can check if I ever forget a password somewhere and need it sent somewhere.
And of course a main account that isn't listed anywhere except for my friends' addressbooks.
Over the last year or so, I've tried to upgrade to glibc2, either by compiling it myself (there aren't enough docs to discuss how to do this painlessly) or by packages (just recently, when the 4.0 kernels were released). I've failed both ways, and at one point last week had both gcc and g++ breaking and even./configure core dumping. I haven't been able to compile anything with g++ in months, and that's because until recently, Slackware didn't have glibc2.
The problem with Slackware isn't so much the packages as it is with documentation. I don't mind doing a little tweaking here and there as long as there's information on how to do it. Slackware.com and slackware.org are both shabby web sites with no information on the actual packages, other than the short ones on the disk?? files. There aren't any docs on how to upgrade from the 3.x to the 4.0 versions, which I want to do desperately (I want to get g++ working again!). For the longest time, my two biggest questions were (and still are) what the differences are between glibc2 and libc5 (functionally) and the differences between egcs and g++. I know there are other docs around, but slackware doesn't seem to provide much in terms of quickie summaries so the user who doesn't know anything can get something working, then learn it afterwards. There isn't even a simple, non-Changelog description of what the differences are between versions. I only remember from newsgroup and/. discussions that 4.0 is finally glibc2, but I can't find this information at all on either of the slackware web sites.
I hope to get this resolved soon. It's been driving me crazy for over a year.
Pee is irridescent (?)/luminescent (?) when you shine black light into it. There's a McDonald's here that uses black lighting in the bathroom. It's kinda gross, actually, since you can see little glowing droplets of pee where people have splashed/missed...
> I'm guessing that other parts of plants are the > same way, so the carbon in wood and leaves was > originally part of atmospheric CO2.
Yup, you're correct. That's why you can grow a plant in pure water (it won't thrive, but it'll grow). Similarly, we lose weight by breathing (though not enough to make a difference, to you dieters out there!)
Try to get a CD player to fit in your jacket pocket. Try to take your CD-R to a concert/lecture/meeting and record notes. Ever make a "bad" CD? That's $$ wasted. Minidisc overcomes all this. They're small, recordable, and re-recordable. Plus you can't scratch MD's unless you really try.
If you say, "click on my friends links to find Mp3's, warez, and instructions to make a bomb" then you are saying that those are the reasons that visitors to your site should visit those sites.
If you say, "Here are my buddies' web pages", then I don't think you should be held liable.
Maybe it's because Bill Gates is not a person (he's really the Devil...but don't tell anybody) and nobody knows who Christopher Reed is (it's supposed to be Christopher Reeves). However, I can't connect either (Connection refulsed). Here are the last few entries of my traceroute (not that I really know what's going on):)
10 linx-l0.ukcore.bt.net (195.66.224.10) 307.411 ms 299.245 ms 313.913 ms 11 access2-telehouse.telehouse.bt.net (194.74.16.41) 335.709 ms 316.711 ms 319.043 ms 12 M007501-News-International.access2.telehouse.bt.ne t (62.172.12.48) 314.523 ms 313.108 ms 309.45 ms 13 143.252.80.112 (143.252.80.112) 355.574 ms 1203.01 ms 1962.31 ms
I don't know about you, but I generally could tell you what I am just from the descriptions you typed out. After answering the questions from these tests (yes, I've actually taken them), I'm usually not suprised by the results. Do people really not know themselves? I guess there are some really confused folks out there...
That's because after watching the shoddy camera work, you'll want to puke. I knew I did--my eyes were shut for most of the latter half of the film.
It's weird--all the reviews that we read say it was a great film, but almost none of the people I talked to liked it.
Yes, i've gone camping as a kid as well. Yes, I agree with all the other posters who said that there were holes all over the place that destroy the apparent realizm that the director was attempting to build. I mean, if the kids knew any kind of outdoor skills, they wouldn't be so stupid to walk in circles. And they were waaay too emotionally unstable.
However, even though the movie wasn't that enjoyable, the beginning half of the movie did something that few movies can do. Without the use of any special effects, with just normal hicks talking to our 3-member-hero-team, the movie was able to create quite a bit of anticipation...I mean, it was scary just seeing that woman who looked like the witch. The actual screaming and arguing as their relationship dissolved was a little tedious to watch and listen to, and that was probably the worst part of the movie.
Yes. Along this vein, since all medical science is just theory, not proven, we will henceforth return to the time proven practice of letting barbers treat patients by bleeding them. After all - its MUCH cheaper and it can't be proven to be any less effective. I mean, if I have a theory that my mom puts out the milk at 5'oclock every day, should I have to ask her each and every time? If statistically, it is pretty close to fact, then I'm willing to work with that.
Considering that Religion has probably been the number one cause for war and with that hardship in the world. Number two cause would most likely be ethnic purity but guess what, they go hand in hand...
The thing is, what defines Christianity? Christians or God? I know, it's easy to find all the "bad apples" but really, those people aren't the best examples of Christians. It's like me saying that all white people are evil because they almost extinguished the native populations of North America. And no, this wasn't just because of the missionary people...greed *was* involved.
What's wrong with a 9 year old seeing southpark? What magic barrier does a 9 year old cross when he turns ten that makes it suddenly appropriate? Or if you'd rather use 11 or 12 or 13...
There is no magic number, but there has to be some limit. Same goes for driving, drinking, and a lot of other things. I wouldn't want to be driving on the road knowing there are 11-year-olds driving around. Likewise, I wouldn't want kids to be mimicing the colourful language of Southpark thinking that it is as much a part of the English language as words like "apple" and "building". Although you may not be offended by swearing doesn't mean that the rest of society isn't offended by it. My fear is that the content that is in a movie theatre will come out of the theatre.
While moralistic idiots try to restrict information going to their children, they should instead be attempting to explain the meaning of the information they get. Pretending something doesn't exist won't fool any kid that's not extremely mentally retarded.
The point isn't to pretend it's not there, but to prevent the kids from thinking it is reality.
Guess what? Kids are impressionable. They read or see one thing, and they think that that is reality. Their world is so small that a bit of influence in our world is a juicy piece of news in theirs. If they see little cartoon kids swearing their @$$'s off, they might think that it's ok to speak like that. If they see violence or excessive sex, they'll begin to think that it's normal. Kids lives revolve around imitation. And R-rated movies usually don't provide the best role models.
Knowledge, I agree, is good. However, we need to present this knowledge in a realistic light. As you've written, parents should explain movies that are not meant for youngsters so that the youngsters don't misinterpret this as reality.
Shoot...I had to reply to this thread, but I wanted to exercise my moderator power. No problem (that "revoke those who reveal their access" thing is now gone, right?)
Anyways, let me just say that I've been typing almost every day for the last 8 years with no problems at all. First bbsing (in high school), then email (first couple yrs of uni) then programming (last couple yrs of uni), then now I'm finally working. I used to think I was totally immune--I know I have good posture. I even got a split, adjustable keyboard 2 years ago.
I'm fairly healthy...do sports regularly...i'm not a couch potato. I thought I could beat it. I paid attention to my posture, to my wrists, my fingers, and even my mousing.
Just one month ago, I started having pain in my fingers from typing. My wrists were sore from just moving the mouse around. My pinkie finger's knuckle is quite sensitive, such that I now hit backspaces and enters with my fourth finger instead. Now, I don't even email or type unless totally unecessary. Heck, I'm slowly reverting back to windows from linux becuase it requires less typing! My typing habits are just the same...the only difference is that I'm typing at work now too.
A long time friend of mine just told me that his hands started acting up a couple of months ago too. We're both worried because we've just started our careers, and here we are worrying about not being able to type anymore.
Don't be so quick to say that it won't affect you...if you use a conventional keyboard, you will one day come down with some kind of pain. Start now to practice good posture and get good ergonomic equipment.
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I agree--it's better to get stuff working reliably rather than get stuff that works properly on half the machines out there. Such is the case with Real Player. It only works some of the time on my machine, and I know of plenty of other people who have the same problems. It's not going to take off unless it works for everybody.
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There is an unusual law in the city of Holland that allows any measure to be brought to a ballot vote by petition. This is good in that it brings democracy directly to the people. Unfortunately, if a couple thousand people signed a petition demanding that the mayor must part Lake Michigan or forfeit his salary, that issue would go on the ballot. Democracy doesn't always make sense.
Yes, it does. You`re saying that just because you don`t agree with popular opinion means that it`s wrong. If you want to really live in a democracy, you`ve got to either get rid of that kind of closed-minded opinion, or move to another town. Democracy is about trusting the judgement of the masses more than you`ll trust the judgement of any individual.
<tim><
It's not about being over-sensitive, it's about respect. I too, think that the storyline could've been written without the slant against Stevie. I, also, don't care for his music, but like Uche said, he's a popular musician for his talent and help for advances in technology for the blind.
<tim><
Q. Have you seen Stevie Wonder's piano?
A. Neither has he.
This version seems to have more of a "kick" for me.
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I had the same line of thought...If Rob wants this to be a better Nerd site, I suggest making fewer personal opinionated comments on the story, especially with regards to things like music.
I personally don't think there's such a thing as bad music, as long as the person composing it actually liked the music. There's music that I don't like, and music that you don't like, but essentially, music is an expression of thought. Nobody can say that the musician is bad unless that musician has specific goals and isn't reaching them. For instance, a composer writing for his/her own enjoyment can't do anything wrong and be "bad". However, a musician trying to get on the top 30 of the week *can* fail. As long as there's somebody else out there appreciating the music, I think the musician would be pleased.
<tim><
I mean, if you were four and you saw a CG movie as cool as Toy Story, wouldn't you want to
figure out how they did all that with computers?
Actually, I wouldn't. I might ponder for a few seconds, but unless I can make a leap of imagination from what I know to what is on the screen, the thought will leave my mind in seconds. For me, there has to be a jump point where I have enough information to begin some kind of analysis of what I see. For instance, most lay-people expect the day sky to be blue. Astronomers (both amateur and professionals) will only wonder why the sky is blue when they learn that other planets are other colours and have different colour skies. Same as with movies. I'm fairly critical with movies--I will analyze this and that, and my friends will just say, "Why can't you just enjoy the movie?" Because I know something they don't. I am able to make that leap of analysis based on knowing a little background of the movie, especially if the movie is about computers or animals.
Now let's talk about comp animation. I've never been particularly interested in animation, probably because I've never known anything beyond frame-by-frame anim. But perhaps if I'd seen something when I was younger that my knowledge could grasp, then I'd reach for understanding that, and I'd be able to make the jump to understanding this now and I'd be able to understand this more fully, and hence be more interested. I wouldn't expect any child to be interested in computer animation any more than a child is interested in drawing a cartoon just from watching Sailer Moon (I know that there are these people, but not very many, that's all).
That's all for now,
<tim><
Choose My-Deja as your free email provider, and don't worry about spam--they've used spam filtering for a while now.
The only thing wrong with it is that I don't know what their filter criteria is, nor can I ever peek at those filtered messages. I use that account as my newsgroup account. I use a usa.net account as a sign-in account that nobody ever needs to contact me at, but I can check if I ever forget a password somewhere and need it sent somewhere.
And of course a main account that isn't listed anywhere except for my friends' addressbooks.
<tim><
Over the last year or so, I've tried to upgrade to glibc2, either by compiling it myself (there aren't enough docs to discuss how to do this painlessly) or by packages (just recently, when the 4.0 kernels were released). I've failed both ways, and at one point last week had both gcc and g++ breaking and even ./configure core dumping. I haven't been able to compile anything with g++ in months, and that's because until recently, Slackware didn't have glibc2.
/. discussions that 4.0 is finally glibc2, but I can't find this information at all on either of the slackware web sites.
The problem with Slackware isn't so much the packages as it is with documentation. I don't mind doing a little tweaking here and there as long as there's information on how to do it. Slackware.com and slackware.org are both shabby web sites with no information on the actual packages, other than the short ones on the disk?? files. There aren't any docs on how to upgrade from the 3.x to the 4.0 versions, which I want to do desperately (I want to get g++ working again!). For the longest time, my two biggest questions were (and still are) what the differences are between glibc2 and libc5 (functionally) and the differences between egcs and g++. I know there are other docs around, but slackware doesn't seem to provide much in terms of quickie summaries so the user who doesn't know anything can get something working, then learn it afterwards. There isn't even a simple, non-Changelog description of what the differences are between versions. I only remember from newsgroup and
I hope to get this resolved soon. It's been driving me crazy for over a year.
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cdrom.com's ftp site has always been slow for me (Vancouver), and I'm on a 33.6 modem. The fewer the number of users, the better, I think.
<tim><
Pee is irridescent (?)/luminescent (?) when you shine black light into it. There's a McDonald's here that uses black lighting in the bathroom. It's kinda gross, actually, since you can see little glowing droplets of pee where people have splashed/missed...
<tim><
> I'm guessing that other parts of plants are the
> same way, so the carbon in wood and leaves was
> originally part of atmospheric CO2.
Yup, you're correct. That's why you can grow a plant in pure water (it won't thrive, but it'll grow). Similarly, we lose weight by breathing (though not enough to make a difference, to you dieters out there!)
<tim><
It's just that nobody liked the post enough to put it up to 1.
<tim><
...balancing a 17" under your bum whilst hovering over the toilet would just be plain messy.
<tim><
Try to get a CD player to fit in your jacket pocket. Try to take your CD-R to a concert/lecture/meeting and record notes. Ever make a "bad" CD? That's $$ wasted. Minidisc overcomes all this. They're small, recordable, and re-recordable. Plus you can't scratch MD's unless you really try.
<tim><
If you say, "click on my friends links to find Mp3's, warez, and instructions to make a bomb" then you are saying that those are the reasons that visitors to your site should visit those sites.
If you say, "Here are my buddies' web pages", then I don't think you should be held liable.
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I had no problem getting right to the article.
<tim><
Maybe it's because Bill Gates is not a person (he's really the Devil...but don't tell anybody) and nobody knows who Christopher Reed is (it's supposed to be Christopher Reeves). However, I can't connect either (Connection refulsed). Here are the last few entries of my traceroute (not that I really know what's going on) :)
e t (62.172.12.48) 314.523 ms 313.108 ms 309.45 ms
10 linx-l0.ukcore.bt.net (195.66.224.10) 307.411 ms 299.245 ms 313.913 ms
11 access2-telehouse.telehouse.bt.net (194.74.16.41) 335.709 ms 316.711 ms 319.043 ms
12 M007501-News-International.access2.telehouse.bt.n
13 143.252.80.112 (143.252.80.112) 355.574 ms 1203.01 ms 1962.31 ms
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I don't know about you, but I generally could tell you what I am just from the descriptions you typed out. After answering the questions from these tests (yes, I've actually taken them), I'm usually not suprised by the results. Do people really not know themselves? I guess there are some really confused folks out there...
"But I thought I was an introvert! Silly me."
<tim><
That's because after watching the shoddy camera work, you'll want to puke. I knew I did--my eyes were shut for most of the latter half of the film.
It's weird--all the reviews that we read say it was a great film, but almost none of the people I talked to liked it.
Yes, i've gone camping as a kid as well. Yes, I agree with all the other posters who said that there were holes all over the place that destroy the apparent realizm that the director was attempting to build. I mean, if the kids knew any kind of outdoor skills, they wouldn't be so stupid to walk in circles. And they were waaay too emotionally unstable.
However, even though the movie wasn't that enjoyable, the beginning half of the movie did something that few movies can do. Without the use of any special effects, with just normal hicks talking to our 3-member-hero-team, the movie was able to create quite a bit of anticipation...I mean, it was scary just seeing that woman who looked like the witch. The actual screaming and arguing as their relationship dissolved was a little tedious to watch and listen to, and that was probably the worst part of the movie.
<tim><
Rob should make an icon for investment news :)
<tim><
Yes. Along this vein, since all medical science is just theory, not proven, we will henceforth return to
the time proven practice of letting barbers treat patients by bleeding them. After all - its MUCH
cheaper and it can't be proven to be any less effective.
I mean, if I have a theory that my mom puts out the milk at 5'oclock every day, should I have to ask her each and every time? If statistically, it is pretty close to fact, then I'm willing to work with that.
<tim><
the world. Number two cause would most likely be ethnic purity but guess what, they go hand in
hand...
The thing is, what defines Christianity? Christians or God? I know, it's easy to find all the "bad apples" but really, those people aren't the best examples of Christians. It's like me saying that all white people are evil because they almost extinguished the native populations of North America. And no, this wasn't just because of the missionary people...greed *was* involved.
<tim><
Ummm...that sounds more like a dragon than a dinosaur.
<tim><
What's wrong with a 9 year old seeing southpark? What magic barrier does a 9 year old cross when he turns ten that makes it suddenly appropriate? Or if you'd rather use 11 or 12 or 13...
There is no magic number, but there has to be some limit. Same goes for driving, drinking, and a lot of other things. I wouldn't want to be driving on the road knowing there are 11-year-olds driving around. Likewise, I wouldn't want kids to be mimicing the colourful language of Southpark thinking that it is as much a part of the English language as words like "apple" and "building". Although you may not be offended by swearing doesn't mean that the rest of society isn't offended by it. My fear is that the content that is in a movie theatre will come out of the theatre.
While moralistic idiots try to restrict
information going to their children, they should instead be attempting to explain the meaning of the information they get. Pretending something doesn't exist won't fool any kid that's not extremely mentally retarded.
The point isn't to pretend it's not there, but to prevent the kids from thinking it is reality.
Guess what? Kids are impressionable. They read or see one thing, and they think that that is reality. Their world is so small that a bit of influence in our world is a juicy piece of news in theirs. If they see little cartoon kids swearing their @$$'s off, they might think that it's ok to speak like that. If they see violence or excessive sex, they'll begin to think that it's normal. Kids lives revolve around imitation. And R-rated movies usually don't provide the best role models.
Knowledge, I agree, is good. However, we need to present this knowledge in a realistic light. As you've written, parents should explain movies that are not meant for youngsters so that the youngsters don't misinterpret this as reality.
<tim><
Shoot...I had to reply to this thread, but I wanted to exercise my moderator power. No problem (that "revoke those who reveal their access" thing is now gone, right?)
Anyways, let me just say that I've been typing almost every day for the last 8 years with no problems at all. First bbsing (in high school), then email (first couple yrs of uni) then programming (last couple yrs of uni), then now I'm finally working. I used to think I was totally immune--I know I have good posture. I even got a split, adjustable keyboard 2 years ago.
I'm fairly healthy...do sports regularly...i'm not a couch potato. I thought I could beat it. I paid attention to my posture, to my wrists, my fingers, and even my mousing.
Just one month ago, I started having pain in my fingers from typing. My wrists were sore from just moving the mouse around. My pinkie finger's knuckle is quite sensitive, such that I now hit backspaces and enters with my fourth finger instead. Now, I don't even email or type unless totally unecessary. Heck, I'm slowly reverting back to windows from linux becuase it requires less typing! My typing habits are just the same...the only difference is that I'm typing at work now too.
A long time friend of mine just told me that his hands started acting up a couple of months ago too. We're both worried because we've just started our careers, and here we are worrying about not being able to type anymore.
Don't be so quick to say that it won't affect you...if you use a conventional keyboard, you will one day come down with some kind of pain. Start now to practice good posture and get good ergonomic equipment.
<tim><